Leroy Hoard
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RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Also. DET +1500 is mighty tasty.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
As long as Bijan doesn't get tackled at the 1, Jamaal Williams is no threat.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Rookiefever
Footballguy
Lots of good discussions going on here regarding Detroit and bijon. For those that are hesitant to see a fit. I would say that Williams Shouldnt be viewed as a cornerstone piece at rb for Detroit lions over the next four years. Bijan definitely would be viewed as such and I think that aligns with their competitive window with Goff as their qb as well. I don’t think I’ve ever been this eager to see a landing spot for a rb in all my dynasty years.
Rookiefever
Footballguy
I can’t find a reason why? What’s your take on this? Oline, Goff, swift, defense ?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Five?? More like 30.
I can only think of maybe a couple teams who would surprise me if they took him.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late 
massraider
Footballguy
That's not even a swing for fences. That's just a smart, easy decision. Good work, that's a steal.Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
2024 1st?Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late
I would make that trade if I thought my 2024 first was not a top 6 pick
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah seems like the bare minimum someone would have to pay for BijanThat's not even a swing for fences. That's just a smart, easy decision. Good work, that's a steal.Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Shouldn't we wait to see which team selects Robinson?
-"It'll be too late then, MoP"
-"It'll be too late then, MoP"
Dave Stauff
Footballguy
How about +5000 that the Giants replace Barkley with Bijan. 4 more years of stud RB on rookie contract seems like a great swap out for them.
massraider
Footballguy
Shouldn't we wait to see which team selects Robinson?
-"It'll be too late then, MoP"
In redraft. In dynasty, definitely not.
I draft talent. If two guys are equal in my eyes, I'll take the guy from what I deem a better organization. Maybe. But teams are lost causes, then they draft Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, and suddenly they aren't.
By the way, saying that, I haven't seen Bijan to CIN, but cutting Mixon, the savings would pay for the first two years of Bijan deal right there. And late in the 1st? Steal.
BUF too would be a sick location.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Almost as cheap as I got it - nice pull. You will have no ragrets (knock on wood)Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I'd need a moist towelette. Joe Burrow would not threaten carries in the RZ much. Couple sneaks maybe, but man...perfect landing spot.I've seen Cincy tossed around. As a Bengals fan, I would, uh, approve
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Only if they decide to convince Allen to stop running as much.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Yes. 24. Apologies for the confusion. I don’t know for sure what kind of record I’m heading into.2024 1st?Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late
I would make that trade if I thought my 2024 first was not a top 6 pick
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Josh Jacobs only wishes he was the next Bijan Robinson.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Faust, please do not poke the bear (HSG).
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s one opinion, and one I’d disagree with.
I’d say his hype is wholly appropriate for the best prospect we’ve collectively seen since 2018 (Barkley). And he might be better than Barkley - not quite as fast, but a stronger/tougher inside runner. Edge James is a good comp.
If you knew Edge James was the 1.01 this year, what’s an appropriate level of hype?
And Bijan’s not just a great prospect; he’s been a great prospect essentially since HS, and has consistently delivered incredible results at every level.
Combine that with what’s likely to be a competitive team landing spot, in a productive offense, and it’s a recipe for success.
Finally that he’s in a tier of his own, even above any of the QBs in SF, and if anything he’s not being hyped enough.
I feel like a pretty easy case can be made for hyping Bijan, but that’s because I’ve watched him for a couple of years.
I’m not sure what you’re basing your evaluation on. Please expand and enlighten us as to why he’s “overhyped”.
The hype versus what I see.
Sounds about the same thing you are basing it on. Watch most every longhorn game - he just doesn't pop like these guys he is getting comped with. When RJ came in the offense didn't miss a beat. If you removed the jersey numbers I'm not sure you would tell the difference. Both really good, but Saquan/McCaffrey? I'll take the under.
So I guess yours is also one opinion, and one I'd disagree with.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
That other guy certainly didn't maximize the value for 1.01.Swung for the fences and traded 1.04 plus my 23 first for 1.01. Hopefully it’s late
Yesterday we were talking about 1.01 or 1.02 and 1.03 and most picked 1.01.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If I owned Bijan, Buffalo wouldn't be at the top of my list. Not with a QB who steals an immense amount of the Thunder both throwing and running.
However, I realize his market value would skyrocket.
However, I realize his market value would skyrocket.
massraider
Footballguy
I don't own him, and unlikely that I get him, but if I did, my first desire would be he is with a team that is competitive for the next 5 years. I want him playing in important games in December.
I have not thought about this, at all, but in that division? I think the BIlls would be a fine choice.
I have not thought about this, at all, but in that division? I think the BIlls would be a fine choice.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have brought it up before, but it bears repeating: sometimes, it is the chicken and the egg.
Do the bills not use the running back as much in short yardage because they prefer putting Josh Allen at risk? Or do they use Josh Allen in short yardage for lack of better options?
The Bills would be an excellent landing spot. They’re a team in desperate need of a RB who can help them chew yards and run clock. They play in a region that gets pelted with bad weather & having a quality run game can be a huge advantage in wind and snow.
The same can be said to some degree about the Eagles. Weather is a huge concern, and they could use a bruiser who gets better as the game goes on. RBs like Robinson who seek contact are a throwback - in the 4th quarter, safeties & LB will be tired of getting pounded by Robinson, who will just relentlessly keep coming at them.
Now all that said, I also agree with others that it would be ideal for Robinson to not be on a team where the QB is going to siphon GL carries, and where they throw to the RB a bit more than the Bills & Eagles have in recent memory.
So it’s a mixed bag. Having the 1.01 in both of my dynasty leagues i am ok with any landing spot, even the Bucs or Ravens, though I’d prefer a competitive team without a messy backfield situation drafts him.
Bengals have to be considered the A #1 spot for him. Lions are right up there, assuming they don’t re-sign Jamaal.
I see Bills/Eagles as preferable over non-competitive teams, but behind landing spots that have running QBs.
Texas superstar RB Bijan Robinson has teams raving about his running ability, explosiveness and upside. According to one NFL executive I spoke with: “He’s one of the best running back prospects I’ve seen over the past 10+ years. He changes everything for your offense.”
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TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I want to poke holes in his game, but he's the real deal. The only question is does it make sense for teams to spend high first round draft capital on RB in the modern NFL. I think it does in this draft class.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Especially in light of some very competent teams having struggled to effectively fill the role with comparatively mediocre options. Bijan could definitely put an elite team over the top.
I'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.
a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.
Just pump the breaks a bit.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
We all have our takes.
I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)
You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.
What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.
Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.
So you have one disconnect here.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You
No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.
You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”
No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I'll frame it a different way. Robinson is one of the only sure fire, can't miss prospects in the first round this year. If you are a risk adverse team that needs a RB, this is your pick. 20 years ago, a RB like this would be a top 5 pick (same draft as Andre Johnson btw). In the 2023 draft, he still could go top 5. His upside is sky-high and he's pretty much a lock to be good in the NFL. Also for the record Sammy Watkins is my least favorite fantasy player of all time. I would have never drafted him. I much preferred Evans and Beckham. That 2014 draft was loaded at WR, Davante Adams, AR15, Cooks, Landry. That class was sick.
