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RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (1 Viewer)

Lots of good discussions going on here regarding Detroit and bijon. For those that are hesitant to see a fit. I would say that Williams Shouldnt be viewed as a cornerstone piece at rb for Detroit lions over the next four years. Bijan definitely would be viewed as such and I think that aligns with their competitive window with Goff as their qb as well. I don’t think I’ve ever been this eager to see a landing spot for a rb in all my dynasty years.
 
Shouldn't we wait to see which team selects Robinson?
:shrug:

-"It'll be too late then, MoP"

In redraft. In dynasty, definitely not.

I draft talent. If two guys are equal in my eyes, I'll take the guy from what I deem a better organization. Maybe. But teams are lost causes, then they draft Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, and suddenly they aren't.

By the way, saying that, I haven't seen Bijan to CIN, but cutting Mixon, the savings would pay for the first two years of Bijan deal right there. And late in the 1st? Steal.

BUF too would be a sick location.
 
I have one share, drafted in a DEVY league 2 years ago. I’m excited to see him play. Actually got him, Gibbs and Treyveon Henderson in the same draft.
 
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This guy's hype has officially jumped the shark.
That’s one opinion, and one I’d disagree with.

I’d say his hype is wholly appropriate for the best prospect we’ve collectively seen since 2018 (Barkley). And he might be better than Barkley - not quite as fast, but a stronger/tougher inside runner. Edge James is a good comp.

If you knew Edge James was the 1.01 this year, what’s an appropriate level of hype?

And Bijan’s not just a great prospect; he’s been a great prospect essentially since HS, and has consistently delivered incredible results at every level.

Combine that with what’s likely to be a competitive team landing spot, in a productive offense, and it’s a recipe for success.

Finally that he’s in a tier of his own, even above any of the QBs in SF, and if anything he’s not being hyped enough.

I feel like a pretty easy case can be made for hyping Bijan, but that’s because I’ve watched him for a couple of years.

I’m not sure what you’re basing your evaluation on. Please expand and enlighten us as to why he’s “overhyped”.
 
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
Texas RB Bijan Robinson, the consensus top back in the 2023 NFL Draft, plans to do all on-field drills and testing at this week’s combine here in Indianapolis, per source. Texas pro day is March 9, just three days after the combine. But Robinson wants to compete.

Adam Thompson @BookiesAdam
Bijan Robinson 2023 Team Odds, via @bookies

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +400
Buffalo Bills +450
Philadelphia Eagles +475
Dallas Cowboys +600
Detroit Lions +600
New Orleans Saints +750
Baltimore Ravens +1000
The Field +575
 
This guy's hype has officially jumped the shark.
That’s one opinion, and one I’d disagree with.

I’m not sure what you’re basing your evaluation on. Please expand and enlighten us as to why he’s “overhyped”.

The hype versus what I see.

Sounds about the same thing you are basing it on. Watch most every longhorn game - he just doesn't pop like these guys he is getting comped with. When RJ came in the offense didn't miss a beat. If you removed the jersey numbers I'm not sure you would tell the difference. Both really good, but Saquan/McCaffrey? I'll take the under.

So I guess yours is also one opinion, and one I'd disagree with.
 
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I don't own him, and unlikely that I get him, but if I did, my first desire would be he is with a team that is competitive for the next 5 years. I want him playing in important games in December.

I have not thought about this, at all, but in that division? I think the BIlls would be a fine choice.
 
I don't own him, and unlikely that I get him, but if I did, my first desire would be he is with a team that is competitive for the next 5 years. I want him playing in important games in December.

I have not thought about this, at all, but in that division? I think the BIlls would be a fine choice.
I have brought it up before, but it bears repeating: sometimes, it is the chicken and the egg.

Do the bills not use the running back as much in short yardage because they prefer putting Josh Allen at risk? Or do they use Josh Allen in short yardage for lack of better options?

The Bills would be an excellent landing spot. They’re a team in desperate need of a RB who can help them chew yards and run clock. They play in a region that gets pelted with bad weather & having a quality run game can be a huge advantage in wind and snow.

The same can be said to some degree about the Eagles. Weather is a huge concern, and they could use a bruiser who gets better as the game goes on. RBs like Robinson who seek contact are a throwback - in the 4th quarter, safeties & LB will be tired of getting pounded by Robinson, who will just relentlessly keep coming at them.

Now all that said, I also agree with others that it would be ideal for Robinson to not be on a team where the QB is going to siphon GL carries, and where they throw to the RB a bit more than the Bills & Eagles have in recent memory.

So it’s a mixed bag. Having the 1.01 in both of my dynasty leagues i am ok with any landing spot, even the Bucs or Ravens, though I’d prefer a competitive team without a messy backfield situation drafts him.

Bengals have to be considered the A #1 spot for him. Lions are right up there, assuming they don’t re-sign Jamaal.

I see Bills/Eagles as preferable over non-competitive teams, but behind landing spots that have running QBs.
 
Dolphins, Bengals, Cowboys, Vikings seem like the best realistic fits to me. Very good offenses that could use a fresh RB.

Eagles, Lions, Bills, Chiefs, Chargers are all pretty good but have some less desirable aspects than the others.
 
This guy's hype has officially jumped the shark.
I want to poke holes in his game, but he's the real deal. The only question is does it make sense for teams to spend high first round draft capital on RB in the modern NFL. I think it does in this draft class.
Especially in light of some very competent teams having struggled to effectively fill the role with comparatively mediocre options. Bijan could definitely put an elite team over the top.
 
This guy's hype has officially jumped the shark.
I want to poke holes in his game, but he's the real deal. The only question is does it make sense for teams to spend high first round draft capital on RB in the modern NFL. I think it does in this draft class.
I'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.
 
'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.
We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.
 
'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.
We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.
Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.
 
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'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.
We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.
Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.
You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.
 
This guy's hype has officially jumped the shark.
I want to poke holes in his game, but he's the real deal. The only question is does it make sense for teams to spend high first round draft capital on RB in the modern NFL. I think it does in this draft class.
I'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

I'll frame it a different way. Robinson is one of the only sure fire, can't miss prospects in the first round this year. If you are a risk adverse team that needs a RB, this is your pick. 20 years ago, a RB like this would be a top 5 pick (same draft as Andre Johnson btw). In the 2023 draft, he still could go top 5. His upside is sky-high and he's pretty much a lock to be good in the NFL. Also for the record Sammy Watkins is my least favorite fantasy player of all time. I would have never drafted him. I much preferred Evans and Beckham. That 2014 draft was loaded at WR, Davante Adams, AR15, Cooks, Landry. That class was sick.
 
This guy's hype has officially jumped the shark.
I want to poke holes in his game, but he's the real deal. The only question is does it make sense for teams to spend high first round draft capital on RB in the modern NFL. I think it does in this draft class.
I'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

I'll frame it a different way. Robinson is one of the only sure fire, can't miss prospects in the first round this year. If you are a risk adverse team that needs a RB, this is your pick. 20 years ago, a RB like this would be a top 5 pick (same draft as Andre Johnson btw). In the 2023 draft, he still could go top 5. His upside is sky-high and he's pretty much a lock to be good in the NFL. Also for the record Sammy Watkins is my least favorite fantasy player of all time. I would have never drafted him. I much preferred Evans and Beckham. That 2014 draft was loaded at WR, Davante Adams, AR15, Cooks, Landry. That class was sick.
Easily the #1 pick in FF.

I'm not on the surefire, can't miss train.
 

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