That thing seems tough to press down on so you might want to adjust this:
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RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (1 Viewer)
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Ilov80s
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I don’t think you press it down. You just slide a measurement device into it on the scalp like a comb or a pick.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I said slide it......)))))
Faust
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Faust
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My comp for Bijan is Alvin Kamara. Comparable size/height. Elite balance, vision, feet and hands/route running. I expect him run faster as well. Best player in the draft
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bostonfred
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They used to take two measurements
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I just mean this guy is the best player in the draft, the best RB to come out since Barkley, etc. What's there to discuss?
eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah, I suppose. I thought you meant in the other direction, like he's not good enough to know his value until he has a team, so I was thinking, uh, so who is worth talking about? But yeah, I guess people just like getting excited and thinking about the possible outcomes.
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4.47u for Texas Longhorn RB Bijan Robinson!
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Slower (4.46 vs. 4.40), lighter (215 vs. 233), and less explosive than Barkley (37" vert vs. 41"). The guy is really good, but hopefully people can stop with that comparison now. Barkley was a generational physical talent. Robinson can be a top 10 NFL back, but the narratives exceed the reality in terms of his raw athletic tools. Not that he's a slouch at all. 4.4x at 215+ is great and on par with what you'd want from a first round back. It's just not quite FREAK level.
The draft is such a booming cottage industry that by the time some of these guys actually get picked, their legend has been built up by years of narratives. I think Bijan is closer to Zeke level than Fournette or McFadden level, but he's short of all-timer status if you stack him up against Peterson, Tomlinson, or Barkley. Probably closer to a Lynch type of prospect, which is still tremendous. Barkley is basically a faster Lynch with 20+ extra pounds though. Mutant.
The draft is such a booming cottage industry that by the time some of these guys actually get picked, their legend has been built up by years of narratives. I think Bijan is closer to Zeke level than Fournette or McFadden level, but he's short of all-timer status if you stack him up against Peterson, Tomlinson, or Barkley. Probably closer to a Lynch type of prospect, which is still tremendous. Barkley is basically a faster Lynch with 20+ extra pounds though. Mutant.
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rockaction
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Just here to remind everybody that Breece’s measurable times and jumps are better.
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How does @Bijan5Robinson stack up against CMC & Saquon?
rockaction
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How does @Bijan5Robinson stack up against CMC & Saquon?
Should have compared him losing to Breece by nearly a tenth of a second.
rockaction
Footballguy
I expect non-honks to point out that there was a better testing running back by a significant margin and that it was just last year. Generational my foot. Hall da man!
ghostguy123
Footballguy
So some guys have a faster 40 time. Cool. Now who is the better football player
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
you arguing with yourself?
rockaction
Footballguy
Is this thing on?!
*taps mic
I’m just dropping this here for all the latecomers to the thread. Like those who have the 1.01 and have been telling us how untouchable this guy is. Granted, he is. But just some cold water for the masses.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
The 40 should be run in full pads, along with every other drill.
Players should run a 40 every year they are in the NFL, make contractual incentives if you have to. I wonder what Jerome Bettis's 40 time was his last couple years.
Players should run a 40 every year they are in the NFL, make contractual incentives if you have to. I wonder what Jerome Bettis's 40 time was his last couple years.
rockaction
Footballguy
and jump higher at the same weight. And had a stellar start to their career in the pros.
faster, higher, better.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
It gave me a good laugh. So well done.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
That's not how that works, but you do you
and jump higher at the same weight. And had a stellar start to their career in the pros.
faster, higher, better.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Oh, and just an fyi, I've been saying for a while the hype on Bijan has been out of control. However, this combine hasn't changed that one way or the other.
and jump higher at the same weight. And had a stellar start to their career in the pros.
faster, higher, better.
rockaction
Footballguy
That's not how that works, but you do you
and jump higher at the same weight. And had a stellar start to their career in the pros.
faster, higher, better.
Often times, it is how that works. That’s how you turn a corner in Denver and—boom! Gone!
rockaction
Footballguy
Raw 4.39, 220 lb speed. Bijan gets tackled in the secondary or has to weave.
rockaction
Footballguy
Nah, Bijan is something else…
besides Breece! Lololol.
besides Breece! Lololol.
rockaction
Footballguy
same with…Breece. Look, this is just a point and I write it with a smile, but everybody slagged last year’s class and it didn’t seem right. Now we’ve got the 1.01 testing lower than last year‘s 1.01, only this guy is called generational. It strikes me that people hivemind and groupthink and therefore don’t think. It’s a microcosm of all things wrong with following leaders and consensus and not your own analysis (at times) when the event or postulation calls for skepticism.
rockaction
Footballguy
And it manifests in Bijan and Breece, and the two perceptions of each. Breece is still a “nice back,” Bijan is “generational.“ Makes no sense.
rockaction
Footballguy
And this year‘s class will surely bear fruit, but this was supposed to be another world.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Last year Breece was the far and away #1 before the combine, and people lost their mind after the combine. Breece was a 1st round startup pick in most of the drafts I saw.
Dude, Breece Hall was hyped up PLENTY last year.
Dude, Breece Hall was hyped up PLENTY last year.
massraider
Footballguy
You don't think Bijan is a more special runner, coming out of college?
rockaction
Footballguy
No. A lot of things are team-dependent, especially running backs who depend on their line. It was pointed out on numerous sites last year that IA State’s line stunk when Breece was there. Other than an eye test, how can one tell besides Texas hype for a Texas product?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Lots of broken tackles??
rockaction
Footballguy
I’m also a firm believer in these underwear Olympics. That’s why the players aren’t running. Fear and loathing, as it were. I love that Bijan had nothing to hide.
So I should be really complimentary of that. Huge balls on Bijan for even participating
So I should be really complimentary of that. Huge balls on Bijan for even participating
rockaction
Footballguy
Gee Ranger, that sounds like a neat stat. What if that means he doesn’t avoid guys yadda yadda
ghostguy123
Footballguy
But doesnt he?
rockaction
Footballguy
I’m sure they think he does. Look, he’s going first round, unlike Breece. I’m just saying they missed on last year’s guys. Life whiffed badly,
massraider
Footballguy
I get the overhype, and it's very American of us to be down on a guy if it wasn't BEST EVA 3 cone, or whatever.
But Bijan is probably top 4 talent in the draft, those guys just need to to not have a bad combine. I don't care about his or Will Anderson's workout numbers, as long as they are above a certain line.
I think Bijan can be a lesser athlete than Breece and Saquon, and wind up being a better running back than both of them.
But Bijan is probably top 4 talent in the draft, those guys just need to to not have a bad combine. I don't care about his or Will Anderson's workout numbers, as long as they are above a certain line.
I think Bijan can be a lesser athlete than Breece and Saquon, and wind up being a better running back than both of them.
rockaction
Footballguy
That‘s true, and I won’t deny it.
The rest of your post rang true, too.
Im being a bit persnickety here, but I believe certain guys‘ hype is overblown and other guys are under appreciated. This isn’t so much con Bijan as it is pro Hall. I don’t believe Bijan is that overblown, but Hall was slept on.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think Bijan will be awesome: I’m not going contrarian solely for that sake. He’s going to be great, IMO.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I remember everybody being totally bonkers for Hall. And still so.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yep. A lot more bonkers after the combine though
rockaction
Footballguy
I thought the fantasy community lacked the excitement for the top and depth of the first round last year. It was industry standard to trade your late first for any first this year. They were calling 1.09-1.12 a dead zone and saying no astute player would hold those picks. The 1.01 was similarly denigrated by the cognoscenti besides a select few outlets.
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rockaction
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Perhaps I’m too attuned to snarky Twitter feeds, though snark and Twitter seems like a redundancy
