RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (1 Viewer)

[Jakey]

You

'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.

Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.

You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.

Ah I read back a few pages, I get the hostility now. You have the 1.01

You think I am calling your baby ugly.

 

[Faust]

NFL @NFL
In case you were wondering why RB @Bijan5Robinson is one of the top Draft prospects

: 2023 #NFLCombine begins March 2nd on @nflnetwork

https://twitter.com/nfl/status/1629843734257975298?s=21

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You

'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.

Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.

You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.

Ah I read back a few pages, I get the hostility now. You have the 1.01

You think I am calling your baby ugly.

I have no hostility whatever.

I’m just pointing out that you appear to have not substantiated your hot take on Bijan Robinson’s “hype jumping the shark”

I am in good company to be optimistic about a generational talent. You are on an island, and appear to be trolling.

Have a nice night.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

NFL @NFL
In case you were wondering why RB @Bijan5Robinson is one of the top Draft prospects

: 2023 #NFLCombine begins March 2nd on @nflnetwork

https://twitter.com/nfl/status/1629843734257975298?s=21

Hype level: appropriate.

 

[Faust]

Nick Penticoff @NickPenticoff

Every Bijan Robinson touchdown in 2022.

https://twitter.com/nickpenticoff/status/1628959017828507648?s=21

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Nick Penticoff @NickPenticoff

Every Bijan Robinson touchdown in 2022.

https://twitter.com/nickpenticoff/status/1628959017828507648?s=21

lol @ people in the twitter replies saying he lacks breakaway speed, as he literally breaks away for 70, 60, 30, 40, 50 yard TDs while breaking tackles and taking perfect angles to line up blocks ahead of him.

2nd run was 60+ with a key broken tackle inside 5 yards. So many current RB crumple like tissue paper on that 1st tackle.

Looks plenty break-away to me. Are they disappointed he didn’t break any 80 or 90 yard TDs?

Struggling with that bit of criticism.

ETA: I love the way he picks through a defense. Meticulous, patient. Old school runner.

 

[Faust]

TheOGFantasyFootball @TheOGFantasy

Do you care if Bijan Robinson runs a 4.52 instead of a 4.47?

https://twitter.com/theogfantasy/status/1630302362471391235?s=21

No one should care at all. He is Teflon

https://twitter.com/theogfantasy/status/1630303277370818561?s=21

 

[ghostguy123]

You

'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.

Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.

You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.

Thats......literally.......not what he said.
You even quoted him, yet what was inside the quotes was.....literally......not what he said.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You

'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.

Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.

You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.

Thats......literally.......not what he said.
You even quoted him, yet what was inside the quotes was.....literally......not what he said.

Oh?

but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

You’re trying way too hard lately ghost.

“Isn’t some crazy gap” - is basically the same thing. Your semantical nitpicking on here is truly insufferable.

Why not call out Jakey for saying that I allegedly “keep saying he doesn’t like Robinson” when I actually didn’t say that. Somehow your keen eye for detail only applies to me.

 

[FBG Moderator]

Drop the middle school shtick and keep this 100% to football and stop ruining the board.

And it's not "the other guy". Be more cool.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ok, here’s a different approach in the interest of forwarding this topic:

I welcome any dissent on the near consensus fantasy community opinion that Bijan Robinson is a generational talent, worthy of 1.01 in any format.

By all means, please explain why he isn’t using statistical data & video evidence - there’s a ton of both available to the point that anyone who believes Robinson is not worthy of the 1.01 should easily be able to show their work.

Faust, myself, and many, many others have used data & video in support of Bijan’s qualifications, so this seems like a fair request.

I look forward to seeing measured, supported counterpoints to the contention that Bijan belongs at the top of draft boards.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Do the bills not use the running back as much in short yardage because they prefer putting Josh Allen at risk?

They use him because it's practically unstoppable.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Do the bills not use the running back as much in short yardage because they prefer putting Josh Allen at risk?

They use him because it's practically unstoppable.

I don’t disagree.

What if they had a similarly unstoppable RB though? Might it make sense to protect your QB by minimizing those hits?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He's back, baby!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Do the bills not use the running back as much in short yardage because they prefer putting Josh Allen at risk?

They use him because it's practically unstoppable.

I don’t disagree.

What if they had a similarly unstoppable RB though? Might it make sense to protect your QB by minimizing those hits?

A QB sneak will always be more effective with a big strong QB because he's taking the snap under center and goes forward. The RB takes it from 3-4 yards in the backfield. I don't believe Allen has ever got hurt as a runner. He's far more vulnerable as a passer, standing in the pocket taking hits.

I mean I love Robinson as well, but calling him "unstoppable" may lend credence to hype.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I mean I love Robinson as well, but calling him "unstoppable" may lend credence to hype.

Technically speaking Allen isn’t unstoppable either. That is also hype.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He's back, baby!

omg you’re right.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Technically speaking Allen isn’t unstoppable either. That is also hype.

which is why I said "practically" - and we know it's accurate. Does he not generally covert short yardage situations?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Technically speaking Allen isn’t unstoppable either. That is also hype.

which is why I said "practically" - and we know it's accurate. Does he not generally covert short yardage situations?

Yes, he generally does.

As do many good RBs.

If I’m the GM of the Bills, I might look into that, so that some of those bruising runs can be to not my QB is all I’m suggesting, hyperbole aside.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Technically speaking Allen isn’t unstoppable either. That is also hype.

And I'm not saying Bijan would never get short yardage carries near the GL or anything - I just don't see Allen going away. With Cook there as a potential third down back as well, I tend to agree that Buffalo would not be an ideal landing spot. With that said, being in a top offense could hardly be considered a bad thing either.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Technically speaking Allen isn’t unstoppable either. That is also hype.

And I'm not saying Bijan would never get short yardage carries near the GL or anything - I just don't see Allen going away. With Cook there as a potential third down back as well, I tend to agree that Buffalo would not be an ideal landing spot. With that said, being in a top offense could hardly be considered a bad thing either.

I agree with this also, and have said as much in this and other topics.

On the upside and to your last sentence, quality offenses tend to run more plays and score more, potentially offsetting some of the Allen vulturing.

I don’t see the Bills as a bad landing spot so much as a slightly less than ideal. Same applies to the Eagles and for the same reason.

 

[sheerterror]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

If you can make Jamaal go away, lions would a good spot. Goff rarely sneaks and Williams banged in 17 last year.

 

[-OZ-]

Ditto on the last two posts. I want a statue handing the ball off to my guy.

Totally understand this point. But sanders was still the #5 rusher last year. I do think it affects the TDs more than the yardage.
I’d prioritize the OL and coach far ahead of an immobile QB.

 

[-OZ-]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I offered ekeler straight. Reject no counter. Considered offering Barkley but can’t quite do it until I see where SB lands.
I don’t think your package comes close.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I get it, you are drafting him.... no need to be defensive or get like this.

@FBG Moderator literally just asked us to stop going back-and-forth.

I’m just going to put you on ignore to make things much easier.

 

[Jakey]

Ok, here’s a different approach in the interest of forwarding this topic:

I welcome any dissent on the near consensus fantasy community opinion that Bijan Robinson is a generational talent, worthy of 1.01 in any format.

By all means, please explain why he isn’t using statistical data & video evidence - there’s a ton of both available to the point that anyone who believes Robinson is not worthy of the 1.01 should easily be able to show their work.

Faust, myself, and many, many others have used data & video in support of Bijan’s qualifications, so this seems like a fair request.

I look forward to seeing measured, supported counterpoints to the contention that Bijan belongs at the top of draft boards.

I would be willing to bet I've watched more Bijan than you or most here (if I missed a game it would be a rare exception) im a UT alumn, I am a homer, I am a fan of Bijan.

I can have my own opinion based on that. You can measure and support yourself on youtube videos and stats.... I'll go with my firsthand evaluation.

And again you are misrepresenting my posts Dear god man.

I have in fact said he is worth the #1 FF pick (I actually posted that). I am not on board with the Marshal Faulk + Saquon + Chubbs + McCaffrey + leap a tall building in a single bound + faster than a speeding bullet stuff.

 

[Jakey]

I get it, you are drafting him.... no need to be defensive or get like this.

@FBG Moderator literally just asked us to stop going back-and-forth.

I’m just going to put you on ignore to make things much easier.

I did not see that post, deal.

 

[-OZ-]

Ok, here’s a different approach in the interest of forwarding this topic:

I welcome any dissent on the near consensus fantasy community opinion that Bijan Robinson is a generational talent, worthy of 1.01 in any format.

By all means, please explain why he isn’t using statistical data & video evidence - there’s a ton of both available to the point that anyone who believes Robinson is not worthy of the 1.01 should easily be able to show their work.

Faust, myself, and many, many others have used data & video in support of Bijan’s qualifications, so this seems like a fair request.

I look forward to seeing measured, supported counterpoints to the contention that Bijan belongs at the top of draft boards.

I would be willing to bet I've watched more Bijan than you or most here (if I missed a game it would be a rare exception) im a UT alumn, I am a homer, I am a fan of Bijan.

I can have my own opinion based on that. You can measure and support yourself on youtube videos and stats.... I'll go with my firsthand evaluation.

And again you are misrepresenting my posts Dear god man.

I have in fact said he is worth the #1 FF pick (I actually posted that). I am not on board with the Marshal Faulk + Saquon + Chubbs + McCaffrey + leap a tall building in a single bound + faster than a speeding bullet stuff.

Texas sucks
But yeah, dude has a bright future.

 

[zeeshan2]

Brandon Beane: “yes you can still take a running back in the first round.”

https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/1630590625287479300

Bills?

 

[travdogg]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

Don't even think it'd be close but go for it.

Bijan Robinson is probably a top-5 RB from day 1.

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I offered ekeler straight. Reject no counter. Considered offering Barkley but can’t quite do it until I see where SB lands.
I don’t think your package comes close.

I honestly would prefer Robinson to either of them too. Slightly off topic, but I can't help but feel like now is the time to get out on Saquon.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

There are only a handful of RB's who have came into the league as highly regarded as Bijan in the past 10 years. When people say RB's shouldn't go in the first it's because there are so few truly elite talents coming into the league. He's going in the 1st 99.9% and probably in the top 15.

2018 - Saquan Barkley


2017 - Fournette/McAffrey


2016 - Elliott


2015 - Gurley

That's the list of guys who were considered no-brainer RB studs to enter the league in the past 10 years. A couple of them had some warts (Gurley due to injury and McAffrey due to size), but outside of Fournette who was kind of a head case all of them have performed at elite levels for multiple years in their career.

 

[Birdie048]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I don't think you are close. Even if you offered All those pieces ... together

Just for reference, in the Dynasty Trade Thread, I posted an offer I received for my 1.01 --> 12 Team 1 QB, PPR 25 Man Roster

I GET: Phil Miles Sanders RB, TB Chris Godwin WR, ATL Kyle Pitts TE, 1.06 and 2024 1st (likely late - won last year & lost semi this year)
I GIVE UP: 1.01, 2.01, JAX Calvin Ridley WR

I declined the offer. Sanders is FA, Godwin will likely lose Evans & serious QB questions.
So to me the offer is I give Pick #1 & #13 for Pick 6, Pitts & 2024 1st (mid-Late 1st in 2024 likely)
So I basically give up 2 x 1st for 3 x 1sts. To repeat myself --> I don't like 3 Rolls of the Dice for the ROI (Sanders, Godwin, Late 2024 1st).

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There are only a handful of RB's who have came into the league as highly regarded as Bijan in the past 10 years. When people say RB's shouldn't go in the first it's because there are so few truly elite talents coming into the league. He's going in the 1st 99.9% and probably in the top 15.

2018 - Saquan Barkley


2017 - Fournette/McAffrey


2016 - Elliott


2015 - Gurley

That's the list of guys who were considered no-brainer RB studs to enter the league in the past 10 years. A couple of them had some warts (Gurley due to injury and McAffrey due to size), but outside of Fournette who was kind of a head case all of them have performed at elite levels for multiple years in their career.

I actually think he’s better and more highly regarded then Ezekiel Elliott was coming into the league.

IIRC, Zeke’s value took a huge jump when he landed with the Cowboys.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

There are only a handful of RB's who have came into the league as highly regarded as Bijan in the past 10 years. When people say RB's shouldn't go in the first it's because there are so few truly elite talents coming into the league. He's going in the 1st 99.9% and probably in the top 15.

2018 - Saquan Barkley


2017 - Fournette/McAffrey


2016 - Elliott


2015 - Gurley

That's the list of guys who were considered no-brainer RB studs to enter the league in the past 10 years. A couple of them had some warts (Gurley due to injury and McAffrey due to size), but outside of Fournette who was kind of a head case all of them have performed at elite levels for multiple years in their career.

I actually think he’s better and more highly regarded then Ezekiel Elliott was coming into the league.

IIRC, Zeke’s value took a huge jump when he landed with the Cowboys.

Agree. I was just listing the ones who were very highly regarded coming into the draft.

We just don't see many RB's who are listed as top 10 overall prospects in the entire draft. The not getting drafted in the 1st round doesn't apply to the truly rare special ones.

Personally I think he'll get drafted in the 10-20 range.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Brandon Beane: “yes you can still take a running back in the first round.”

https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/1630590625287479300

Bills?

They were linked to Hall with their first round pick a lot last offseason and ended up getting Cook in Round 2 instead.

 

[menobrown]

There are only a handful of RB's who have came into the league as highly regarded as Bijan in the past 10 years. When people say RB's shouldn't go in the first it's because there are so few truly elite talents coming into the league. He's going in the 1st 99.9% and probably in the top 15.

2018 - Saquan Barkley


2017 - Fournette/McAffrey


2016 - Elliott


2015 - Gurley

That's the list of guys who were considered no-brainer RB studs to enter the league in the past 10 years. A couple of them had some warts (Gurley due to injury and McAffrey due to size), but outside of Fournette who was kind of a head case all of them have performed at elite levels for multiple years in their career.

From a fantasy angle the only two that had comparable hype was Barkley and Elliot.

None of the others were thought of this highly now or post NFL draft when it was time to do rookie drafts and none of them were consensus 1.1 in rookie drafts. The year CMC came I spent months here debating with someone who kept saying Fournette and Dalvin were top two locks. And once the NFL draft concluded in some leagues of mine Corey Davis went over all of them.

Gurley was close and on talent would have been on par but was coming off the ACL so was just not thought of as fondly as Bijan, Barkley or Elliot.

If you go back 11 years you get Trent. He was as highly thought of as Bijan, Barkley and Elliot.

 

[-OZ-]

There are only a handful of RB's who have came into the league as highly regarded as Bijan in the past 10 years. When people say RB's shouldn't go in the first it's because there are so few truly elite talents coming into the league. He's going in the 1st 99.9% and probably in the top 15.

2018 - Saquan Barkley


2017 - Fournette/McAffrey


2016 - Elliott


2015 - Gurley

That's the list of guys who were considered no-brainer RB studs to enter the league in the past 10 years. A couple of them had some warts (Gurley due to injury and McAffrey due to size), but outside of Fournette who was kind of a head case all of them have performed at elite levels for multiple years in their career.

I actually think he’s better and more highly regarded then Ezekiel Elliott was coming into the league.

IIRC, Zeke’s value took a huge jump when he landed with the Cowboys.

Agree. I was just listing the ones who were very highly regarded coming into the draft.

We just don't see many RB's who are listed as top 10 overall prospects in the entire draft. The not getting drafted in the 1st round doesn't apply to the truly rare special ones.

Personally I think he'll get drafted in the 10-20 range.

I’d bet on him not lasting past the lions at 18. If he does, Andy Reid will be making calls. Dude would be scary in KC (no disrespect to Pacheco)

Depending on the QBs and trades, Carolina could be interesting.

 

[Mingooch]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I offered ekeler straight. Reject no counter. Considered offering Barkley but can’t quite do it until I see where SB lands.
I don’t think your package comes close.

I would trade Barkley for Bijan in a second. Depending on where both land u might never get a chance.

 

[JohnnyU]

You

'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.

Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.

You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.

Ah I read back a few pages, I get the hostility now. You have the 1.01

You think I am calling your baby ugly.

I have no hostility whatever.

I’m just pointing out that you appear to have not substantiated your hot take on Bijan Robinson’s “hype jumping the shark”

I am in good company to be optimistic about a generational talent. You are on an island, and appear to be trolling.

Have a nice night.

I agree 100%, but it is “whatsoever”.

 

[eighsse2]

You

'm not poking holes. I'm keeping this realistic. He looks good, but to my eyes there isn't some crazy gap between him and the other RB in the same backfield.

a la the Sammy Watkins is the next Andre Johnson thread.

Just pump the breaks a bit.

We all have our takes.

I strongly disagree with your evaluation. His backfield-mate didn’t break 104 tackles last year (or a proportionate amount per number of touches)

You’re definitely reaching for reasons to not like Robinson, and failing to make a case against him for lack of specifics.

What you just offered is demonstrably false. It is not at all keeping it realistic.

Never said I don't like Robinson. YOU keep saying I don't like Robinson, I keep telling you I do like him. I said the hype is getting a little silly.

So you have one disconnect here.

You literally just said you saw “no difference” between Bijan Robinson and I quote, “and the other RB in the same backfield.”

No disconnect. I read exactly what you said.

Ah I read back a few pages, I get the hostility now. You have the 1.01

You think I am calling your baby ugly.

I have no hostility whatever.

I’m just pointing out that you appear to have not substantiated your hot take on Bijan Robinson’s “hype jumping the shark”

I am in good company to be optimistic about a generational talent. You are on an island, and appear to be trolling.

Have a nice night.

I agree 100%, but it is “whatsoever”.

Whatsoever and whatever are interchangeable in this case.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Whatsoever and whatever are interchangeable in this case.

Indubitably.

I could’ve also put a period before “whatever” to make it dismissive. But that seems rude.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I offered ekeler straight. Reject no counter. Considered offering Barkley but can’t quite do it until I see where SB lands.
I don’t think your package comes close.

I would trade Barkley for Bijan in a second. Depending on where both land u might never get a chance.

Not even close in value. Bijan is a full 5 years younger. 5 extra years from an elite RB is huge. Bijan is worth 2+ Saquons.

Feb 9, 1997
Jan 30, 2002

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I offered ekeler straight. Reject no counter. Considered offering Barkley but can’t quite do it until I see where SB lands.
I don’t think your package comes close.

I would trade Barkley for Bijan in a second. Depending on where both land u might never get a chance.

Not even close in value. Bijan is a full 5 years younger. 5 extra years from an elite RB is huge. Bijan is worth 2+ Saquons.

Feb 9, 1997
Jan 30, 2002

Plus the wear and tear and mileage on Saquon Barkley. Injury history as well. It’s not even close.

 

[-OZ-]

Gauging price to move up to 1.1 to get him. I have 1.8 and a pretty deep stable of young RB's. Is Dameon Pierece+either K Herbert, R White, Allgeier or Javonte enough to package with 1.8 to make this remotely close?

I offered ekeler straight. Reject no counter. Considered offering Barkley but can’t quite do it until I see where SB lands.
I don’t think your package comes close.

I would trade Barkley for Bijan in a second. Depending on where both land u might never get a chance.

I think you’re right. The only thing is I’m one of the current best teams (SF, went on a hot streak and won last year with Kupp, Waller and Tannehill out) and not completely sold on staying in past the next year or two. So it’s really the next couple years that matter. He probably wouldn’t take it anyway.

 

[Faust]

Bijan Robinson NFL Draft 2023: Scouting Report for Texas RB

Excerpt:

OVERALL

Bijan Robinson is an ideal blend between efficiency and high-end athletic traits for the position.

Robinson is a thick, balanced runner at 6'0" and 222 pounds. He plays with a low and springy rushing style that gives him the flexibility to change direction and mitigate contact from any angle at any time. Moreover, Robinson has a unique skill for navigating tight spaces. Not only does he have the strength and balance to stay upright, but he's very comfortable playing with short, choppy steps to filter through cluttered spaces without just freezing up in front of the pile. He also generally plays with good vision between the tackles, even if he can have a few plays per game in which he tries to be too perfect. Though not a Steven Jackson-style bulldozer, Robinson has all the traits of a back who regularly earns more than is blocked between the tackles.

Outside the tackles and in space, Robinson shines with wonderful acceleration and flexibility around the corner. Robinson can hit his top speed almost instantly if he needs to and rarely loses any of that speed when he's turning the corner on perimeter runs like outside zone or pitch plays. Robinson also has great stop/start ability for a larger back, giving him yet another tool to find extra yards at the second level and in space.

Robinson is also a weapon on passing downs. He has soft, natural hands and can run more than just the typical checkdown routes expected of a running back. Robinson flashed the ability to get vertical, particularly against Alabama, and still has some potential left untapped for the pro level. In pass protection, Robinson isn't yet elite, but he's promising. Robinson's eyes can lead him astray from time to time, but he's a willing and active blocker with plenty of strength to hold his own.

Robinson checks just about every box for an elite running back prospect. He should step in right away and be able to carry the workload for a rushing offense, as well as contribute in the passing game. Robinson has the potential to be a multi-time Pro Bowler and one of the better backs in the NFL.

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GRADE: 9.0 (Top-10 Prospect)
OVERALL RANK: 4
POSITION RANK: RB1
PRO COMPARISON: Supercharged Breece Hall

 

[menobrown]

Ok, so this might be a dumb question and not trying to be funny but when I saw Bijan at the podium I got legit curious thinking how do you get accurate height readings on people who wear their hair this way? https://twitter.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1632018650226913280/photo/1

 

[ghostguy123]

Ok, so this might be a dumb question and not trying to be funny but when I saw Bijan at the podium I got legit curious thinking how do you get accurate height readings on people who wear their hair this way? https://twitter.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1632018650226913280/photo/1

Lol.
Press down or slide the scale thingy. It's doable.
Fair question though

 

[zed2283]

I really find it strange that this thread stays on page 1. There's almost nothing to talk about until we see where he goes.

 

[eighsse2]

I really find it strange that this thread stays on page 1. There's almost nothing to talk about until we see where he goes.

If that were true of Bijan, wouldn't it apply to every pre-draft prospect?