RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

In the last 3 Interboard League drafts (ppr) he went 13, 15, and 15. In the first 3 which started a went earlier, he went 5, 5, and 6.

What do you think happened? Chubb ascending, Henry ascending, a run on receivers? What could possibly account for this aside from groupthink?

I think a bunch of writers started saying something about him going too high and that they'd rather have Chubb or Barkley and everybody went "Ohhhhh yeahhhhhh -- Chubb and Barkley." Because there's absolutely nothing else that happened that would drop him nine-ten spots or so.

 

[SoBeDad]

When you include what he showed he could do on the field last season, I think Allgeier might be the most valuable RB2 (depth chart wise) in fantasy this season. I think he'll get enough touches to be serviceable as a bye week fill in or occasional flex play on his own. And if Bijan does go down/miss time, we have a history showing Allgeier can handle the load and put up numbers given the opportunity.

How soon would you draft Allgeier as a handcuff? He's going in the 40s among RBs, around the same as Mitchell, McKinon, Bigsby, Mostert, Singletary. I didn't see many ATL games, but PFF liked him, 86.7. Is that based on vision, breaking tackles?

Bijan is going around RB 4 on some ADP calculators using drafts from the last few days.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In the last 3 Interboard League drafts (ppr) he went 13, 15, and 15. In the first 3 which started a went earlier, he went 5, 5, and 6.

What do you think happened? Chubb ascending, Henry ascending, a run on receivers? What could possibly account for this aside from groupthink?

I think a bunch of writers started saying something about him going too high and that they'd rather have Chubb or Barkley and everybody went "Ohhhhh yeahhhhhh -- Chubb and Barkley." Because there's absolutely nothing else that happened that would drop him nine-ten spots or so.

I suspect in a start 1 RB league RBs are deprioritized.

That said, I don’t know how many flex positions there are.

Also, Smith started talking up Allgieier, and they listed Bijan 3rd on the depth chart, which is kind of laughable, but I could see it panicking a few FF managers.

 

[rockaction]

Also, Smith started talking up Allgieier, and they listed Bijan 3rd on the depth chart, which is kind of laughable, but I could see it panicking a few FF managers.

Perhaps it's because I'm not playing for high stakes, but that rolled off of my opinion like water off of a duck's you-know-what. I paid it no mind.

 

[rockaction]

That said, I don’t know how many flex positions there are.

I took Bass to say that it was a 1QB/1RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX league, I think. So you're still probably going to want to fill your flexes with the highest scoring player you can get, and the top RBs are generally incredibly valuable. That said, if he's going at fifteen, what you're asking is how did he fall out of the first and into the top of the second? You can still flex him. It's not a roster clogger or anything like that.

 

[zed2283]

I received two offers yesterday for the 1.1 + Allgeier:

Offer #1: Dobbins (I have Gus) + 2025 1st + 2026 1st
Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I turned down #1 pretty quickly, #2 has me thinking a little bit but will likely turn it down.

My email draft starts in 3 hours.

 

[Weebs210]

I received two offers yesterday for the 1.1 + Allgeier:

Offer #1: Dobbins (I have Gus) + 2025 1st + 2026 1st
Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I turned down #1 pretty quickly, #2 has me thinking a little bit but will likely turn it down.

My email draft starts in 3 hours.

Both are instant declines imo.

 

[zed2283]

I received two offers yesterday for the 1.1 + Allgeier:

Offer #1: Dobbins (I have Gus) + 2025 1st + 2026 1st
Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I turned down #1 pretty quickly, #2 has me thinking a little bit but will likely turn it down.

My email draft starts in 3 hours.

Both are instant declines imo.

I've got one of the best constructed rosters I've had in a long time (maybe ever) and have a great mix of win now vs. youth. I paused because CMC could put me over for this year and maybe next? But I've been set on Bijan since December, so...

 

[rockaction]

Both are instant declines imo.

They're not insulting, but they're not anything that would bump me off of Bijan.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I received two offers yesterday for the 1.1 + Allgeier:

Offer #1: Dobbins (I have Gus) + 2025 1st + 2026 1st
Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I turned down #1 pretty quickly, #2 has me thinking a little bit but will likely turn it down.

My email draft starts in 3 hours.

Yeah, I smash rejected on both of those offers

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I received two offers yesterday for the 1.1 + Allgeier:

Offer #1: Dobbins (I have Gus) + 2025 1st + 2026 1st
Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I turned down #1 pretty quickly, #2 has me thinking a little bit but will likely turn it down.

My email draft starts in 3 hours.

Both are instant declines imo.

I've got one of the best constructed rosters I've had in a long time (maybe ever) and have a great mix of win now vs. youth. I paused because CMC could put me over for this year and maybe next? But I've been set on Bijan since December, so...

CMC may not out-pace Bijan by all that much so personally I’d take the youth over an injury prone veteran.

 

[menobrown]

Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I made someone this exact offer twice, pre and post draft. I'd have been ecstatic if it got accepted but both times my offers just died on the vine.

Personally I think CMC is worth around 60% of Bijan, would take almost two of him to get one Bijan.

 

[Weebs210]

Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I made someone this exact offer twice, pre and post draft. I'd have been ecstatic if it got accepted but both times my offers just died on the vine.

Personally I think CMC is worth around 60% of Bijan, would take almost two of him to get one Bijan.

Maybe it was you in this specific instance..

 

[menobrown]

Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I made someone this exact offer twice, pre and post draft. I'd have been ecstatic if it got accepted but both times my offers just died on the vine.

Personally I think CMC is worth around 60% of Bijan, would take almost two of him to get one Bijan.

Maybe it was you in this specific instance..

I did not follow exactly what you meant?

 

[Weebs210]

Offer #2: CMC + 1.12

I made someone this exact offer twice, pre and post draft. I'd have been ecstatic if it got accepted but both times my offers just died on the vine.

Personally I think CMC is worth around 60% of Bijan, would take almost two of him to get one Bijan.

Maybe it was you in this specific instance..

I did not follow exactly what you meant?

I was joking that maybe you are both in the same league and you offered the trade to him.

 

[Tanner9919]

he looked good on that 12 yard gain for his first carry in the NFL. he's on a different gear than everyone else, his cuts were stellar last night.

 

[Grahamburn]

Looks small to me.

 

[Chaka]

Still not gonna get paid.

 

[Faust]

Dwain McFarland
Bijan Robinson handled 73% of snaps & 80% of rushing attempts with the starters in Week 2 of the preseason.

Robinson was in a route on 60% of dropbacks.

Allgier took the first snap and rotated.

Small sample but if Bijan gets to 65%/65% he will be in the mix for RB1 overall.

https://twitter.com/dwainmcfarland/status/1692958787877916864?s=21

 

[DeaLerZ]

Also, Smith started talking up Allgieier, and they listed Bijan 3rd on the depth chart, which is kind of laughable, but I could see it panicking a few FF managers.

Perhaps it's because I'm not playing for high stakes, but that rolled off of my opinion like water off of a duck's you-know-what. I paid it no mind.

I do because i think Arthur smith is an awful coach. He is a spoiled billionaires son who literally has a job due to riding off of Derick Henry’s coat tails.

He literally said “If Allegier gets hot I’ll ride the hot hand”. He smells like another Hackett type coach to me who is trying to outsmart the nfl, and doesn’t know how to use his most talented players correctly

The other big concern is that Ridder looks bad, and it is possible that the offense could be worse.

Bijan looks sick nasty though, and will create his own opportunities.

But mannn they need a better coach

“Kyle Pitts only had a 50% route participation with the Falcons starters last night against the Bengals. Primarily played in 12 personnel, but left the field in 21, and only played 33% in 11.”

Point being I could see him doing something stupid like taking Robinson out for Allegier…

 

[rockaction]

I do because i think Arthur smith is an awful coach.

Fair enough, I guess. I don't share that view, but you're certainly entitled to be worried that an NFL coach does something dumb with personnel. Seen it too many times before to dismiss the possibility that it might happen.

 

[OnTheReg]

Stud's are gonna stud. Bijan's gonna produce. Don't overthink it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Stud's are gonna stud. Bijan's gonna produce. Don't overthink it.

This.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I do because i think Arthur smith is an awful coach

I think he’s a very effective, but old school coach.

I also think a lot of what he’s saying about Allgeier is coachspeak to keep players motivated.

They didn’t take Bijan that high to not give him the lion’s share, and talent tends to win out in the end - and Bijan is oozing with it.

I’m not a Ridder guy, but he’s looked capable enough this preseason. I am still of the opinion that the Falcons are using him as a bridge guy, because I don’t see the upside. But he’s likely good enough to support Bijan the chIn mover with some dinks & dunks - IMO Pitts & London are a little riskier, but a good ground game can open up the pass, so maybe ATL catches teams stacking the box and gets off some deep balls.

Atlanta has enough weapons that they could be a better offense than people think this year.

 

[BassNBrew]

In the last 3 Interboard League drafts (ppr) he went 13, 15, and 15. In the first 3 which started a went earlier, he went 5, 5, and 6.

What do you think happened? Chubb ascending, Henry ascending, a run on receivers? What could possibly account for this aside from groupthink?

I think a bunch of writers started saying something about him going too high and that they'd rather have Chubb or Barkley and everybody went "Ohhhhh yeahhhhhh -- Chubb and Barkley." Because there's absolutely nothing else that happened that would drop him nine-ten spots or so.

That said, I don’t know how many flex positions there are.

I took Bass to say that it was a 1QB/1RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX league, I think. So you're still probably going to want to fill your flexes with the highest scoring player you can get, and the top RBs are generally incredibly valuable. That said, if he's going at fifteen, what you're asking is how did he fall out of the first and into the top of the second? You can still flex him. It's not a roster clogger or anything like that.

Correct on the flex.

I think what happened is people saw the 80 point drop off at WR and Najee/A Jones/Taylor/Gibbs available mid 3rd to early 4th and thought better of passing on Hill/Diggs/Lanb/Adams/ASB/Brown

 

[pinkstapler]

When you include what he showed he could do on the field last season, I think Allgeier might be the most valuable RB2 (depth chart wise) in fantasy this season. I think he'll get enough touches to be serviceable as a bye week fill in or occasional flex play on his own. And if Bijan does go down/miss time, we have a history showing Allgeier can handle the load and put up numbers given the opportunity.

How soon would you draft Allgeier as a handcuff? He's going in the 40s among RBs, around the same as Mitchell, McKinon, Bigsby, Mostert, Singletary. I didn't see many ATL games, but PFF liked him, 86.7. Is that based on vision, breaking tackles?

Bijan is going around RB 4 on some ADP calculators using drafts from the last few days.

While if it was dynasty I'd try trading for him at a reasonable cost, in redraft I tend to not draft handcuffs. Or if I do wind up in that position just because of the value dynamics as the draft goes on, I actually draft handcuffs of RBs I don't own the starter. It feels to be the statistically the better play to scattershot the position. I remember reading a study done that showed in general backup RBs to high profile starters tend to not live up to the increased ADP they have compared to backups in more muddy backfields. If its week 10+ in season and I'm a lock for the playoffs, I might look to acquire a handcuff for one of my top RBs just as some more insurance.

I do think Allgeier is a bit of an outlier there seeing as we saw him perform well already in that role (though I'm sure Bijan will perform much better still). I drafted Allgeier in the 12th round recently in a redraft league, but didn't take/have Bijan already. I'd maybe take him in the 11th but it would be because my other targets around there were gone too. Of the RBs you listed the only one I'd maybe consider ahead of him is Bigsby, but I've personally liked Allgeier more just because how much I think Atlanta is going to run the ball.

 

[Faust]

NBC Sports’ Peter King said fantasy managers should be “really, really careful” with drafting Bijan Robinson.

King said there are “too many mouths to feed” in the Atlanta offense for Robinson to pay off as a top-10 player off the draft board. Robinson displayed his power and elusiveness in his first preseason action last week against the Bengals, totaling 26 yards on four rushes. He also caught a six-yard pass. Tyler Allgeier, who eclipsed 1,000 rushing yards as a rookie in 2022, will figure into the Falcons’ running game this year. Robinson should have a healthy fantasy floor, at worst.

 

[Lansdowne]

I understand exercising caution with anyone in an Arthur Smith offense. That being said, Bijan is great at the one thing Smith cares about (running the football) and anyone taking fantasy advice from Peter King is getting what they deserve.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Peter King loves being Peter King. I've posted his track record on comments like this. He's uncannily consistent in being wrong about everything.

Bijan is the real deal. Do not be weary of drafting him. Especially not in dynasty.

That said, he went 1.06 in my Sunday home-league (85% sharks, 15% pretty good) to a team manager who's usually competitive. But 1 pick after Eke and over Tyreek Hill, Pollard & Saquan? Too rich for my blood. Dude told me he'd have taken him over Eke and that's just called "mancrush". Not that there's anything wrong with having a mancrush, but it has to be within reasonable valuation.

Frankly I think Bijan is a borderline 1st round redraft pick - I'd love him at the 1.12 with a top 7 WR. But I would not have taken him over the 3 I just listed. I could see 1.11 or 1.10 IF the 1st is dominated by WR, and Eke, CMC, Barkley & Pollard are gone.

And all that said, Bijan still might well justify that 1.06 pick. He's that good, and Peter King is that consistently wrong.

 

[FFWhiskey]

Starting to think Bijan is a little overrated. What are owners expecting?

1,200 / 12TD in 16 to 17 games? Because there was a rookie RB who did that last year that is now being drafted in the 3rd round.


Kenneth Walker ran for 1,050 / 9 TD in 15 games. That prorates to 1,120 to 1,190 over a full season. People are down because of Charbonnet, but Allegier is a more proven commodity at the NFL level.


He needs to rush for around 1,400 yards and 14-16ish TD to justify his ADP. Because I expect an increase in Walker's rushing stats and he can be had rounds later. It's going to be close. Think I'd rather draft best WR available and then go for the Walkers and Mixons of world and hope everything goes right for one of the 3rd round guys (score 15+ TD). Damian Harris scored 15 TD two years back. Jamaal Williams scored 17 TD last year.


Those guys aren't uber talented, sometimes you just have to be the right place at the right time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

anyone taking fantasy advice from Peter King is getting what they deserve.

This is the correct take-away here.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Starting to think Bijan is a little overrated. What are owners expecting?

1,200 / 12TD in 16 to 17 games?

Historically rookie RB with Bijan's pedigree and draft capital have been FF monsters.

That he's on a team that's going to run run run till my daddy takes the t-bird away bodes extremely well for his chances of continuing that trend.

Projections are always difficult, and Ridder will hold back that entire offense to some degree, IMO. But I wouldn't be shocked if he was at least 1200+ RuYd, 600+ ReYd, 10 total TD.

Easily worthy of a 1st round pick. And if I'm 400 APY & 6 TD short, I won't at all be surprised.

Kenneth Walker ran for 1,050 / 9 TD in 15 games. That prorates to 1,120 to 1,190 over a full season. People are down because of Charbonnet, but Allegier is a more proven commodity at the NFL level.

IMO the Walker/Charbonnet comp isn't really accurate. People are expecting Charbonnet to take GL carries, and/or receptions away from Walker.

That's not at all analogous to Bijan/Allgeier, because Bijan isn't deficient in short yardage (as Walker was), and he's a very good receiver (and has a coach who's expressed that he will use him as such). And Walker's propensity for 0 or negative gain plays is the opposite of what Bijan has done his entire college career - and he's shown that the NFL will not be any different in his preseason action. He always falls forward. He always seems to make the 1st dude miss. And he's powerful enough to run people over.

Robinson is just a much more complete player than Walker. And that's not an attack or a slight on Walker at all. I've been complimentary of Walker.

I get where you're going with the comparison, but not all RBBCs are equal. The nuance of the individual player's strengths & weaknesses matters. I like Allgeier well enough, but the Falcons drafted Bijan 1.08. Charbs was a 2nd round selection, as was Walker. The situations aren't remotely similar IMO.

 

[FFWhiskey]

Better yet. Why is this guy getting drafted ahead of Nick Chubb?


All Chubb did was run for 1,525 yards and 12 TD last year. I think if Bijan came anywhere near close to that owners would be stoked. Yet the guy is being drafted after him.


Sounds like rookie fever to me!

 

[zamboni]

NBC Sports’ Peter King said fantasy managers should be “really, really careful” with drafting Bijan Robinson.

King said there are “too many mouths to feed” in the Atlanta offense for Robinson to pay off as a top-10 player off the draft board. Robinson displayed his power and elusiveness in his first preseason action last week against the Bengals, totaling 26 yards on four rushes. He also caught a six-yard pass. Tyler Allgeier, who eclipsed 1,000 rushing yards as a rookie in 2022, will figure into the Falcons’ running game this year. Robinson should have a healthy fantasy floor, at worst.

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[kyoun1e]

Just pulled the #7 pick in a PPR redraft league.

It will probably be between Robinson, Hill, Kupp (maybe Kelce slides).

Not sure I want to deal with Arthur Smith again after I drafted another ATL rookie (Pitts). Watch CPatt act like Rasputin.

 

[FFWhiskey]

Starting to think Bijan is a little overrated. What are owners expecting?

1,200 / 12TD in 16 to 17 games?

Historically rookie RB with Bijan's pedigree and draft capital have been FF monsters.

That he's on a team that's going to run run run till my daddy takes the t-bird away bodes extremely well for his chances of continuing that trend.

Projections are always difficult, and Ridder will hold back that entire offense to some degree, IMO. But I wouldn't be shocked if he was at least 1200+ RuYd, 600+ ReYd, 10 total TD.

Easily worthy of a 1st round pick. And if I'm 400 APY & 6 TD short, I won't at all be surprised.

Kenneth Walker ran for 1,050 / 9 TD in 15 games. That prorates to 1,120 to 1,190 over a full season. People are down because of Charbonnet, but Allegier is a more proven commodity at the NFL level.

IMO the Walker/Charbonnet comp isn't really accurate. People are expecting Charbonnet to take GL carries, and/or receptions away from Walker.

That's not at all analogous to Bijan/Allgeier, because Bijan isn't deficient in short yardage (as Walker was), and he's a very good receiver (and has a coach who's expressed that he will use him as such). And Walker's propensity for 0 or negative gain plays is the opposite of what Bijan has done his entire college career - and he's shown that the NFL will not be any different in his preseason action. He always falls forward. He always seems to make the 1st dude miss. And he's powerful enough to run people over.

Robinson is just a much more complete player than Walker. And that's not an attack or a slight on Walker at all. I've been complimentary of Walker.

I get where you're going with the comparison, but not all RBBCs are equal. The nuance of the individual player's strengths & weaknesses matters. I like Allgeier well enough, but the Falcons drafted Bijan 1.08. Charbs was a 2nd round selection, as was Walker. The situations aren't remotely similar IMO.

My argument is that I think you score more points taking a WR in the first and a Walker or Mixon type in the 3rd than you do taking Robinson in the first and the equivalent available WR in the 3rd (Allen, Samuel, Hopkins).


It was never my intent to forecast RBBCs or suggest them to be similar but rather speak of draft values/strategies at a macro level.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Better yet. Why is this guy getting drafted ahead of Nick Chubb?


All Chubb did was run for 1,525 yards and 12 TD last year. I think if Bijan came anywhere near close to that owners would be stoked. Yet the guy is being drafted after him.


Sounds like rookie fever to me!

Chubb for the last few seasons has been the "boring pick." He's not particularly flashy but he's uncannily consistent. Bijan is the new hotness, who is probably going to be a great NFL player. I prefer consistent, known, quantities. Other prefer high risk high reward.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Better yet. Why is this guy getting drafted ahead of Nick Chubb?


All Chubb did was run for 1,525 yards and 12 TD last year. I think if Bijan came anywhere near close to that owners would be stoked. Yet the guy is being drafted after him.


Sounds like rookie fever to me!

I won't argue with this one. Chubb is going to be a monster. I'm not sure why Chubb's ADP is depressed. In my home league Chubb went 1.10

In one of my NFC $350 leagues a guy took Chubb 1.04 (allowing me to get Eke 1.05)

It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma inside of a riddle. Maybe people are weary of the CLE offense, but it's not like Ridder is a world-beater. So I really can't answer this question.

I don't necessarily think it's rookie fever - I just think people are extremely excited about Bijan.

If I had a gun to my head to give a reason, I'd suggest that maybe people think Felton will inherit the Hunt role, and Chubb's receptions won't dramatically increase. Those extremely high on Chubb seem to believe he's going to be an old school dominant 3-down back. Which he might be. But there's a chance he isn't.

 

[FFWhiskey]

Better yet. Why is this guy getting drafted ahead of Nick Chubb?


All Chubb did was run for 1,525 yards and 12 TD last year. I think if Bijan came anywhere near close to that owners would be stoked. Yet the guy is being drafted after him.


Sounds like rookie fever to me!

Chubb for the last few seasons has been the "boring pick." He's not particularly flashy but he's uncannily consistent. Bijan is the new hotness, who is probably going to be a great NFL player. I prefer consistent, known, quantities. Other prefer high risk high reward.

Makes sense! I'm certain Robinson is a stud, so I don't want anyone to get confused. But I won't take him until AFTER Nick Chubb which means I will end up rostering him in exactly 0 leagues this season. Bummer...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My argument is that I think you score more points taking a WR in the first and a Walker or Mixon type in the 3rd than you do taking Robinson in the first and the equivalent available WR in the 3rd (Allen, Samuel, Hopkins).


It was never my intent to forecast RBBCs or suggest them to be similar but rather speak of draft values/strategies at a macro level.

Certainly might be a more viable strategy. Depends on the RB/WR though.

To get the elite WR, you'd have to be drafting top 7? In which case you'd have little chance of getting Bijan in the 2nd. And the closer you get to the turn, the less relevant that is because you have 4-6 players all ranked similarly, so it's really a supply/demand proposition. e.g. if you're at 1.10 and choosing between Pollard, AJB, Adams, Diggs and Lamb, you should probably take your choice of RB, because one of those WR will make it back.

Sorry, your post that I quoted seemed to compare the RB situations in ATL to that of SEA, so that's what I responded to.

 

[zamboni]

Just did a Sleeper PPR mock draft (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE) and Bijan went #4 - yikes.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Bijan is the real deal. Do not be weary of drafting him. Especially not in dynasty.

And people wonder why I scream bloody murder about being a redraft specialist
The hype on Robinson in dynasty has pushed him to undraftable status in Redraft '23
I'm not trying to argue or start a fight, I love you HSG but Dynasty Bias does not help in redraft leagues IMHO

And you're not alone, I'm the one standing on an island these days, trust me.
MoP crazyman, works for many in here

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Bijan is the real deal. Do not be weary of drafting him. Especially not in dynasty.

And people wonder why I scream bloody murder about being a redraft specialist
The hype on Robinson in dynasty has pushed him to undraftable status in Redraft '23
I'm not trying to argue or start a fight, I love you HSG but Dynasty Bias does not help in redraft leagues IMHO

And you're not alone, I'm the one standing on an island these days, trust me.
MoP crazyman, works for many in here

I'm not sure that reply is in synch with my post, but ok. lol

I was actually making a distinction there. He's a no-brainer 1.01 in Dynasty formats. IMO Bijan is a borderline 1st in redraft (as I said in my post) but with upside to justify taking him over any RB not named CMC, Eke, Saquan, Chubb or Pollard. And at the end of the year I wouldn't be shocked to see that Bijan outperformed 1 or more of those guys.

So yeah - not sure we're at odds here, so no offense taken.

 

[MTskibum]

Starting to think Bijan is a little overrated. What are owners expecting?

Below are a list of RB's drafted in the top 10 over the last 10 years and their rookie season stats

Trent Richardson - 1300 total yards 9 TDs
Todd Gurley - 1300 yards 10 tds
Zeke - 1900 yards - 16 TD's
Leonard Fournette - 1300 yards 10 td's
CMC - only 1000 yards and less td's, but 80 receptions
Barkely - 2000 yards 15 tds


I expect Bijan has a 1300 yard/ 10 TD floor and a 2000 yard 15 TD ceiling. I think that Chubb is the safer pick but I like Bijan's ceiling more and the floor that i believe he has makes me want to take that risk.

I have taken Bijan as early as 1.06.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I expect Bijan has a 1300 yard/ 10 TD floor and a 2000 yard 15 TD ceiling. I

Pretty close to what I said above.

 

[nightmare]

In PPR redraft, if you draft B Robinson at 6 your passing up a 20 point per game player(probably WR).
N Chubb was 16 PPG last year. He would have to be 2022 Josh Jacobs.

 

[FFWhiskey]

Starting to think Bijan is a little overrated. What are owners expecting?

Below are a list of RB's drafted in the top 10 over the last 10 years and their rookie season stats

Trent Richardson - 1300 total yards 9 TDs
Todd Gurley - 1300 yards 10 tds
Zeke - 1900 yards - 16 TD's
Leonard Fournette - 1300 yards 10 td's
CMC - only 1000 yards and less td's, but 80 receptions
Barkely - 2000 yards 15 tds


I expect Bijan has a 1300 yard/ 10 TD floor and a 2000 yard 15 TD ceiling. I think that Chubb is the safer pick but I like Bijan's ceiling more and the floor that i believe he has makes me want to take that risk.

I have taken Bijan as early as 1.06.

I don't think any of those guys were being drafted as high as Bijan is right now though. I think he's great but that's the problem, everyone thinks he's great. I could be wrong, I'm away from a computer right now but at least Richardson for sure I recall was a 2nd rounder. I paired him with Adrian Peterson in the 1st that year and ran away with a championship.


What happens again when market demand is drastically larger than supply? It drives the price up. The more people who want a player, the higher the price.



There isn't one person reading this thread that doesn't want to draft Bijan.

 

[Loipz]

Starting to think Bijan is a little overrated. What are owners expecting?

Below are a list of RB's drafted in the top 10 over the last 10 years and their rookie season stats

Trent Richardson - 1300 total yards 9 TDs
Todd Gurley - 1300 yards 10 tds
Zeke - 1900 yards - 16 TD's
Leonard Fournette - 1300 yards 10 td's
CMC - only 1000 yards and less td's, but 80 receptions
Barkely - 2000 yards 15 tds


I expect Bijan has a 1300 yard/ 10 TD floor and a 2000 yard 15 TD ceiling. I think that Chubb is the safer pick but I like Bijan's ceiling more and the floor that i believe he has makes me want to take that risk.

I have taken Bijan as early as 1.06.

I don't think any of those guys were being drafted as high as Bijan is right now though. I think he's great but that's the problem, everyone thinks he's great. I could be wrong, I'm away from a computer right now but at least Richardson for sure I recall was a 2nd rounder. I paired him with Adrian Peterson in the 1st that year and ran away with a championship.


What happens again when market demand is drastically larger than supply?

It means trade for him in dynasty and draft him 1.01

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In PPR redraft, if you draft B Robinson at 6 your passing up a 20 point per game player(probably WR).
N Chubb was 16 PPG last year. He would have to be 2022 Josh Jacobs.

Potentially, sure.

Reality is we don’t know what Bijan will be, nor do we know a player being passed up will be “20 PPG”

It’s all kind of a crap shoot really. We’re all just guessing. Sometimes it feels better to get “your guy” even if your guy might score a little less.

 

[FFWhiskey]

In PPR redraft, if you draft B Robinson at 6 your passing up a 20 point per game player(probably WR).
N Chubb was 16 PPG last year. He would have to be 2022 Josh Jacobs.

This guy gets it. Funny enough you can probably draft Bijan in the first and still get the real Josh Jacobs in the second.