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RB Breece Hall, NYJ (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
If they held him out this week and he played the rest of the year I’d take it. I’d much rather have that.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
What???
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh ****. The Raiders game. The guy. Wrong thread. I’ll delete it if you delete yours.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
How come? You think he is going to do more damage to the injury or what? He's playing so if it were that bad then I see the Jets shutting him down.
Could definitely see them shutting him down.How come? You think he is going to do more damage to the injury or what? He's playing so if it were that bad then I see the Jets shutting him down.
I guess that's the opposite of being shut down
It is a smidge above being shut down.
irish eyes
Footballguy
The production seemed to indicate he was shut down. So awesome can't even put him in your lineup going into fantasy playoffs.
Seriously. Am I supposed to bench him? I don’t think that is what I should do. But I want to. 6.5 points for me today.
Runkle
Footballguy
The coaches haven't shut him down, Rodgers has. Rodgers calls his own number all the time. The run game never gets going because Rodgers wants to pass on first down, where he either throws wildly incomplete or takes a sack forcing second-and-long. Which means more pass attempts because you can't run on 2nd and 15 or 3rd and 12.
And Rodgers would rather try throwing to into double-coverage to a guy 40 yards down field when his arm can only get it 25, than dump off to a wide open Hall sitting in the middle of the field with space around him to work, because that's not hero ball.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Exactly, Rodgers absolutely killed Hall & Wilson's value. Who would have guessed he would be worse than Zach.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
As bad as Rodgers has been, he is absolutely better than Wilson by a country mile.
rockaction
Footballguy
He was an RB1 coming into the game. The Jets decided not to lean on him this week. That’s it. He was 12/60 and a two-point conversion and fumble lost. He’s not getting goal line carries. Rodgers never checked down today. There wasn’t much designed for him in the passing game, and the two or three times there were, Seattle shut the screen down.
They haven’t figured out how to use him. Perhaps a new regime will have figured it out.
They haven’t figured out how to use him. Perhaps a new regime will have figured it out.
rockaction
Footballguy
People just want to bash Rodgers. He’s been three-four times better than Wilson was.
eta* And I’ve been more than willing to criticize both Rodgers’s play and his personality. I support the Jets, but this has been a bit much. He’s still eons better than Wilson was.
Starting to wonder if he's benchable?
Part of me wonders if they eased up on usage last week due to his knee to the point the #3 RB got a TD. Another part of me just thinks, even if healthy, this offense is not a great environment for hitting ceiling.
Also annoyingly, it looked like Hall got a few targets and Rodgers kept missing him.
He's in my flex, but considering T. Tracy and/or B. Thomas over him in a critical week 14 matchup.
Part of me wonders if they eased up on usage last week due to his knee to the point the #3 RB got a TD. Another part of me just thinks, even if healthy, this offense is not a great environment for hitting ceiling.
Also annoyingly, it looked like Hall got a few targets and Rodgers kept missing him.
He's in my flex, but considering T. Tracy and/or B. Thomas over him in a critical week 14 matchup.
Synthesizer
Footballguy
Z.Wilson 60% Completion, 6.2 YPA, 2.2 TD %, 1.9 INT %, 77.2 Rating, 5-7 team record
A.Rodgers 62% Completion, 6.3 YPA, 4.5 TD %, 1.9 INT %, 87.5 Rating, 3-9 team record
Passing game looks about the same as last year. The Jets pass more in the red zone this year so Rodgers has a few extra TDs.
A.Rodgers 62% Completion, 6.3 YPA, 4.5 TD %, 1.9 INT %, 87.5 Rating, 3-9 team record
Passing game looks about the same as last year. The Jets pass more in the red zone this year so Rodgers has a few extra TDs.
Rodgers>>Wilson, let's not kid ourselves here. Honestly the Jets biggest problem, and its hurt Hall as well, is the defense can't get off the field. They were the best defense in the NFL in 2023, in 2024, arguably bottom-10. I'm not sure which side of the ball the Jets are better on at this point, imagine saying that before the season.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Also what's hurt Hall is the baffling use, giving the plodder Allen almost half the carries.
What's baffling is that he's non-existent in the passing game. They're totally not taking advantage of his skill set. Not even a screen or two. Idiots.
One thing I've noticed this year, with both Hall and Jonathan Taylor, and something I hated about Barkley in previous years, is hero ball at RB. Passing up 4-5 yard gains to get tackled at the line, because they were trying to get 20+. Sometimes it works, but too often these guys have tried to be Barry Sanders, and well, nobody is. Barkley has been interesting, because now he gets to do that 4 yards downfield rather than at or behind the line, and its way more effective. Hall doesn't have that option.
I'd also argue Allen is a solid RB. Not in Hall's league, but good enough to probably be the Allgeier to Hall's Bijan. I see no issue giving him 1/3rd of the work.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The bizarre thing is how much better B Hall looked with terrible QBs. Now that he has Rodgers, he looks worse.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Rodgers isn’t the same QB he once was. Not even close to the same.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Yeah, but is he as bad as Z Wilson? I mean, it just seems weird.
Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
My 2 cents:
Even though Rodgers hasn't been playing well, he's known to be a competent QB, which you can't say for his previous QBs. That, plus heavy incentives from the staff to extract value from Rodgers to hopefully save their jobs, means emphasis on the passing game beyond the dumpoffs and checkdowns that boosted Breece's value.
Plus, it's worth noting that if your goal as a bad offense is to scheme the ball to your best player, it's not clear to me that player isn't Garret Wilson. No need to run the ball when you're losing games when your WR core is as solid as Wilson + Adams.
Now that they're eliminated, we may see more balance as they aren't throwing haymakers at their opponents to scrap for the playoffs, but as everyone is speculating, being eliminated may not be good for Breece's stock overall if he decides to keep himself safe for next year.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Hall has been quite pedestrian the last 9 games - 12.92 in full PPR. Four games in single digits.
Not sure where that ranks, but the past 5 games he’s averaging 14 & that’s RB20.
Traded him straight up for Gibbs after Week 6. Jah has outscored Breece by like 6.6 ppg since the swap.
Not sure where that ranks, but the past 5 games he’s averaging 14 & that’s RB20.
Traded him straight up for Gibbs after Week 6. Jah has outscored Breece by like 6.6 ppg since the swap.
I traded Chubba and JSN for him after JSN's big game and right before the CAR bye. Figured I was selling high and buying low. Think I bought lower.
I'm treating him differently now. I have to consider benching him. He's banged up, the Jets are a mess, and Miami is playing well (and play better at home).
Not sure what I'm going to do, but I'm honestly considering starting T. Tracy and/or B. Thomas over him.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
Agreed. Right now I have Isaac Guerrendo and Brian Thomas in over Breece, but am still thinking it over.
Yeah, I don't know if I'll have the b*lls to do it, but since I don't actually need to win this week I just may...get my self in the groove of going against consensus prior to actual playoff decision making.
And maybe the decision is made for us. If there's any inkling of an injury getting worse, forget it. Sit.
I don't think any of The Jets have practiced recently
At least they are playing like they don't practice
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Last Thursday he participated, but only did agility and position drills. Followed by full practice Friday. I think technically he is doing less practice this week than last week. I think. Tomorrow will be telling
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He sort of on a hybrid WFH schedule
Wednesdays - no practice
Thursdays - limited practice
Fridays - full practice
Sundays - I’m here. If you need me, I’ll be 5 yards behind the center. Or whatever…
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Ya. Except last Thursday he was upgraded to limited practice from did not practice Wednesday. We actually saw him at practice participating. This week no upgrade and not seen. Could be nothing, but that doesn't feel the same.
i wouldn’t count on him this week…they have nothing to play for and he’s def thinking about a 2nd deal
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Hmmm. Never thought of that. Wonder if that is a thought in his head? He is under contract though next year. Making under 2 million per year, so it's not like he has made a lot of money in terms of NFL player. Interesting. Season is over I guess I couldn't hate on him if he is already looking to splash next year for a payday.
Honestly, this could go on for the rest of the season.
If that's a possibility, I'd rather they put him on IR so I can toss in B. Allen (even though I. Davis will probably screw things up).
Krilons Resa
Footballguy
For my own selfish reasons, I hope he suits up and, like last week, it's a 3 way split again. 
efactor
Footballguy
I could easily see the Jets moving him this offseason. Only a year left on his rookie contract and Allen waiting in the wings.
I made a trade for him a few weeks back. Hard to sit him because he can put up 25 if they give him full usage but the flip side looks more likely and they split the carries.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Zero chance I am starting him this week. I've got Addison or Thielen I can use
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Jets' Breece Hall: Listed as doubtful for Week 14
by RotoWire | RotoWire
20 mins ago
Hall (knee) is officially listed as doubtful for Sunday's divisional matchup against the Dolphins, Rich Cimini of ESPN.com reports.
Hall missed practice Wednesday and Thursday and spent Friday's session working in the rehab area, per Brian Costello of the New York Post. The third-year pro's knee injury appears set to keep him sidelined Week 14, though an official decision on Hall's status may not arrive until 90 minutes before Sunday's 1:00 p.m. ET kickoff. Rookies Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis will be the top candidates to lead New York's backfield until Hall is healthy enough to retake the field.
by RotoWire | RotoWire
20 mins ago
Hall (knee) is officially listed as doubtful for Sunday's divisional matchup against the Dolphins, Rich Cimini of ESPN.com reports.
Hall missed practice Wednesday and Thursday and spent Friday's session working in the rehab area, per Brian Costello of the New York Post. The third-year pro's knee injury appears set to keep him sidelined Week 14, though an official decision on Hall's status may not arrive until 90 minutes before Sunday's 1:00 p.m. ET kickoff. Rookies Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis will be the top candidates to lead New York's backfield until Hall is healthy enough to retake the field.
