RB Breece Hall, NYJ (1 Viewer)

[Biabreakable]

The Allen usage concerns me more than Hall's meh production

Why? He didn't do anything either. Right now it's 95% system failure and 5% player.

AP in his prime would struggle to get 50 yards rushing with this offense right now.

Naw.

Peterson almost set the rushing record playing with Christian Ponder.

He was their whole offense. Stacked boxes all the time.

I was partly being facetious, but it's not all about seeing a stacked box. It's about no creativity in the run game and play calling.

I'm really suprised the OC was not fired along with the HC today

Sure I do get your point and to be fair the Vikings were built to run the ball all day at this time.

 

[BlackCrowes]

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[WaltonGoggins]

It's a two-game trend that will reverse itself Monday night.

Considering benching him, so you’re guaranteed to hit this prediction. lol

Coming into the game this weekend, Buffalo gave up the most fantasy points to RBs in the league. And indeed they're still 32nd according to MFL. That's a matchup that if the Jets can't take advantage of this week, you can forget Breece as a weapon until Hackett/Rodgers are relieved of play calling duties.

I'm also not sure Breece is totally right. He hasn't looked right all year. Something is going on. He's lost his quicks that he definitely had.

He sounds effing sad and demoralized. Rodgers is doing a light version of what Watson is doing to the browns

The difference possibly is that most knew the old Rodgers was long gone can't beat age and when it goes it goes quick. You only can blame yourself if you expected him to reverse time and be the old great Rodgers. Rodgers wanting Hackett and Jets letting Rodgers be their secret GM and HC that's on them.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You only can blame yourself if you expected him to reverse time and be the old great Rodgers.

I never expected that. I expected a more competent NFL QB than what they Jets have rolled out there last year.

That should have resulted in more production from Breece, not less.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

You only can blame yourself if you expected him to reverse time and be the old great Rodgers.

I never expected that. I expected a more competent NFL QB than what they Jets have rolled out there last year.

That should have resulted in more production from Breece, not less.

Didn't mean you specifically just the amount of fans when they got Rodgers were so excited and seemed to think the old Rodgers would magically appear and send them to a SB. I think their defense has really regressed when they need a stop they can't get one. Even against DEN who has no offense was able to score a TD on the road. San Fran ran with an unproven RB all over them etc. Think it's an organization same old Jets thing and they all believed Rodgers just needed to show up and they will get to a SB. Never that easy.
* edit it's not just Breece look at Wilson look at Sauce etc. this appears to be organizational issue not player specific

 

[kyoun1e]

Price check on B. Hall.

Would you swap Hall for J. Jacobs? J. Conner?

Curious where Hall owner head's are at.

I already own B. Allen.

 

[Crazy8s__]

Hall value has to be higher now. I’d sit and wait after this game

 

[pollardsvision]

I got him at a discount last year in a keeper, and kept him. I wouldn't have paid a top 3 price for him this year.
Last year was a lot rockier than the final numbers indicated, and people that didn't have him may not have noticed so much.

A lot of truly abysmal rushing games. About half, from what I remember. It was all about the receiving and the big play.

That said, I'm not selling, and I'd be buying. Nothing has fundamentally changed. They've played some tough defenses, he's catching passes, and the offense isn't completely broken.
I wouldn't pay a top 3 price, but heck what does that even mean anymore?

If it ain't Barkley, and maybe Kamara/Kyren, everybody else has enough issues that it makes sense to just keep Breece.

His value is down, for sure, but I can't see too many people trading him for Conner or Jacobs. But who knows where other people are, so it's worth a shot.

 

[kyoun1e]

I got him at a discount last year in a keeper, and kept him. I wouldn't have paid a top 3 price for him this year.
Last year was a lot rockier than the final numbers indicated, and people that didn't have him may not have noticed so much.

A lot of truly abysmal rushing games. About half, from what I remember. It was all about the receiving and the big play.

That said, I'm not selling, and I'd be buying. Nothing has fundamentally changed. They've played some tough defenses, he's catching passes, and the offense isn't completely broken.
I wouldn't pay a top 3 price, but heck what does that even mean anymore?

If it ain't Barkley, and maybe Kamara/Kyren, everybody else has enough issues that it makes sense to just keep Breece.

His value is down, for sure, but I can't see too many people trading him for Conner or Jacobs. But who knows where other people are, so it's worth a shot.

I think one thing that has changed big time is the emergence of B. Allen.

Prior to the draft Hall was THE guy that was considered the every down workhorse. That is not the case now. B. Allen isn't going away.

 

[pollardsvision]

I got him at a discount last year in a keeper, and kept him. I wouldn't have paid a top 3 price for him this year.
Last year was a lot rockier than the final numbers indicated, and people that didn't have him may not have noticed so much.

A lot of truly abysmal rushing games. About half, from what I remember. It was all about the receiving and the big play.

That said, I'm not selling, and I'd be buying. Nothing has fundamentally changed. They've played some tough defenses, he's catching passes, and the offense isn't completely broken.
I wouldn't pay a top 3 price, but heck what does that even mean anymore?

If it ain't Barkley, and maybe Kamara/Kyren, everybody else has enough issues that it makes sense to just keep Breece.

His value is down, for sure, but I can't see too many people trading him for Conner or Jacobs. But who knows where other people are, so it's worth a shot.

I think one thing that has changed big time is the emergence of B. Allen.

Prior to the draft Hall was THE guy that was considered the every down workhorse. That is not the case now. B. Allen isn't going away.

I agree. That's why Breece being the #1 overall RB is probably not in play.

But in terms over rest of season value, the list of RB's that don't have split backfield, injury, or offensive concerns is really small.

He's not worth #3 overall pick, but there aren't 5 slam dunk guys to trade him away for either. I would bet he'll end up outside of the Top 5 if healthy, 8-10 would be my guess, but I can't comfortably predict who the 7 guys in front of him will be.

 

[kyoun1e]

I got him at a discount last year in a keeper, and kept him. I wouldn't have paid a top 3 price for him this year.
Last year was a lot rockier than the final numbers indicated, and people that didn't have him may not have noticed so much.

A lot of truly abysmal rushing games. About half, from what I remember. It was all about the receiving and the big play.

That said, I'm not selling, and I'd be buying. Nothing has fundamentally changed. They've played some tough defenses, he's catching passes, and the offense isn't completely broken.
I wouldn't pay a top 3 price, but heck what does that even mean anymore?

If it ain't Barkley, and maybe Kamara/Kyren, everybody else has enough issues that it makes sense to just keep Breece.

His value is down, for sure, but I can't see too many people trading him for Conner or Jacobs. But who knows where other people are, so it's worth a shot.

I think one thing that has changed big time is the emergence of B. Allen.

Prior to the draft Hall was THE guy that was considered the every down workhorse. That is not the case now. B. Allen isn't going away.

I agree. That's why Breece being the #1 overall RB is probably not in play.

But in terms over rest of season value, the list of RB's that don't have split backfield, injury, or offensive concerns is really small.

He's not worth #3 overall pick, but there aren't 5 slam dunk guys to trade him away for either.

Agree.

Just offered the Hall owner Jacobs with a JuJu sweetener.

Something tells me that this week with Salah gone is a key inflection point for the entire offense. In a good way.

 

[irish eyes]

I got him at a discount last year in a keeper, and kept him. I wouldn't have paid a top 3 price for him this year.
Last year was a lot rockier than the final numbers indicated, and people that didn't have him may not have noticed so much.

A lot of truly abysmal rushing games. About half, from what I remember. It was all about the receiving and the big play.

That said, I'm not selling, and I'd be buying. Nothing has fundamentally changed. They've played some tough defenses, he's catching passes, and the offense isn't completely broken.
I wouldn't pay a top 3 price, but heck what does that even mean anymore?

If it ain't Barkley, and maybe Kamara/Kyren, everybody else has enough issues that it makes sense to just keep Breece.

His value is down, for sure, but I can't see too many people trading him for Conner or Jacobs. But who knows where other people are, so it's worth a shot.

I think one thing that has changed big time is the emergence of B. Allen.

Prior to the draft Hall was THE guy that was considered the every down workhorse. That is not the case now. B. Allen isn't going away.

Neither one of them has done squat so it doesn't matter at this point. Can't start either one, hall is lucky to get 10 touches a game.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well now that Pittman is out, I’m rolling with Hall this week at Flex.

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

 

[SayWhat?]

Saleh fired. Hopefully Hackett isn’t far behind. Free this man!

Nah. Hackett is there because of ARod. Saleh is gone because of ARod. Anyone can be a scapegoat except ARod’s people.

Hackett stripped of play calling responsibilities. Works the same as a firing for me. Giddy up!!

 

[rockaction]

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

I'm not as confident as I sound. Hackett no longer calling plays, which is excellent, but now Todd Downing is. Who is Todd Downing?

Ohhhh man. Hackett was a bad play caller without a plan, but this is interesting.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

I'm not as confident as I sound. Hackett no longer calling plays, which is excellent, but now Todd Downing is. Who is Todd Downing?

Ohhhh man. Hackett was a bad play caller without a plan, but this is interesting.

I'm gonna guess that Downing or anyone else is better than Hackett by far.

 

[rockaction]

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

I'm not as confident as I sound. Hackett no longer calling plays, which is excellent, but now Todd Downing is. Who is Todd Downing?

Ohhhh man. Hackett was a bad play caller without a plan, but this is interesting.

I'm gonna guess that Downing or anyone else is better than Hackett by far.

You'd be surprised how bad a replacement for the incompetent can be.

 

[Absolutely Nothing]

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

I'm not as confident as I sound. Hackett no longer calling plays, which is excellent, but now Todd Downing is. Who is Todd Downing?

Ohhhh man. Hackett was a bad play caller without a plan, but this is interesting.

If the Jets can run the ball and use play action like the 2021 Titans, we may have something here. But theres a lot of factors in play, like how much influence Rodgers truly will have over the shape of this offense, and whether this team will be good enough on either side of the ball to be in favorable game scripts for Hall to see the touches he needs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

I'm not as confident as I sound. Hackett no longer calling plays, which is excellent, but now Todd Downing is. Who is Todd Downing?

Ohhhh man. Hackett was a bad play caller without a plan, but this is interesting.

I'm gonna guess that Downing or anyone else is better than Hackett by far.

You'd be surprised how bad a replacement for the incompetent can be.

I’m willing to flip that coin to find out. My mamma said Hackett is the debbil.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

My mamma said Hackett is the debbil.

"An' you always gotta keep yo' eye on da debbil."

 

[BassNBrew]

On Bloom's podcast he had about 15-20 guys in front of him. Rodgers wants Allen in there.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

On Bloom's podcast he had about 15-20 guys in front of him. Rodgers wants Allen in there.

Hackett’s demotion tells me the “it’s all about what Aaron wants” schtick has played out.

 

[dipandglide]

I bought Hall for a projected late 1st and three 2nds in a 12-team superflex league

Price check on B. Hall.

Would you swap Hall for J. Jacobs? J. Conner?

Curious where Hall owner head's are at.

I already own B. Allen.

 

[Hartliner]

Hopefully @rockaction is right and this is a get-right game.

I'm not as confident as I sound. Hackett no longer calling plays, which is excellent, but now Todd Downing is. Who is Todd Downing?

Ohhhh man. Hackett was a bad play caller without a plan, but this is interesting.

New York Jets Look to Breece Hall to Lead the Charge

The New York Jets underwent a face-lift this week, firing head coach Robert Saleh. How does that impact Breece Hall's outlook for the rest of the season

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Supposedly run heavy guy. Hopefully a choo choo on Breece Hall week 6

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Supposedly run heavy guy. Hopefully a choo choo on Breece Hall week 6

I need it. That garbage time ARSB TD made my game with Breece left a lot closer than it should have been.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I'm up 1.3 points heading into tonight. I have Hall and he has Cook, and if he can't go then Braelon Allen.

Gulp.

 

[irish eyes]

I'm down 3.5 points, I have Hall & Garrett opponent has Tyler Bass. I don't feel all that confident.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I'm down 3.5 points, I have Hall & Garrett opponent has Tyler Bass. I don't feel all that confident.

Imagine reading that sentence prior to your fantasy draft LMAO.

 

[Scoresman]

I need 40 points and have Breece, Bass, and NYJ defense left.

Breece Hall breakout game coming up!

 

[GreenNGold]

He's looking pretty explosive again so far tonight!

 

[Uncle Leo]

I'm down 3.5 points, I have Hall & Garrett opponent has Tyler Bass. I don't feel all that confident.

Congratulations

 

[Chaka]

He's looking pretty explosive again so far tonight!

Is he?

Break a long one, no defender within 8 yards behind or to the side, one man to beat ahead of him and all the field in the world to do it and...he runs straight into the defender.

WTH???

 

[irish eyes]

He's looking pretty explosive again so far tonight!

Is he?

Break a long one, no defender within 8 yards behind or to the side, one man to beat ahead of him and all the field in the world to do it and...he runs straight into the defender.

WTH???

Yeah, I couldn't figure out what the heck he was doing. He could have cut it back in.

 

[Tigerpop]

Yeah he slowed down hope he’s ok, no hammy

 

[dipandglide]

Does Hall look like he's lumbering? He's having an excellent game, but something seems off.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Does Hall look like he's lumbering? He's having an excellent game, but something seems off.

I thought so too. Should’ve had a monster game.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah he slowed down hope he’s ok, no hammy

He got corralled to the sideline. Defenders get paid, too.

Does Hall look like he's lumbering? He's having an excellent game, but something seems off.

I thought so too. Should’ve had a monster game.

He put up 26.7 in my PPR league. That is a monster game

 

[GreenNGold]

Does Hall look like he's lumbering? He's having an excellent game, but something seems off.

I thought the Jets missed a few key blocks or he would have a couple more really big plays, maybe he could have cut differently a couple times, but I'm not a good judge of that.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Yeah he slowed down hope he’s ok, no hammy

He got corralled to the sideline. Defenders get paid, too.

Does Hall look like he's lumbering? He's having an excellent game, but something seems off.

I thought so too. Should’ve had a monster game.

He put up 26.7 in my PPR league. That is a monster game

I’m not pew pewing his fantasy points. I had him last night as well, and needed 15 from him for the win and he raced past that. I’m just saying to my naked eye I agree with the above that something still doesn’t look completely right with him.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Does Hall look like he's lumbering? He's having an excellent game, but something seems off.

I thought the same thing earlier in the year when I had a chance to watch him. Last year he looked like he could house any touch, does not look nearly as explosive this year to my amateur eye.

 

[Doubles]

Breece Hall in first game under interim HC Jeff Ulbrich and OC Todd Downing:

86% snap rate (season high)

76% route rate (season high)

18 carries (season high) 113 rushing yards (season high)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m not pew pewing his fantasy points. I had him last night as well, and needed 15 from him for the win and he raced past that. I’m just saying to my naked eye I agree with the above that something still doesn’t look completely right with him.

As a dynasty shareholder I think he looked just like he’s always looked. His OL isn’t great but hopefully with Adams in the mix he’s gonna have more open lanes to run through.

 

[JohnnyU]

I love the trade for Adams does for Hall's value.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Jets are 30th in rushing offense this season

 

[Teezee]

Those stacked boxes are about to look like breece hallways

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Haven't been thrilled with my 3rd overall pick this year, hasn't been bad, just not what I hoped. However i'm clinging to the hope that the Adams trade is a beneficial one for him, surely can't make things worse.

 

[Runkle]

Glad he had a decent night, but might have to bench him for better options vs. PIT

 

[FarFromHome]

Top of the draft RBS haven't produced like we were expecting. I will say at least he is healthy.

 

[irish eyes]

Glad he had a decent night, but might have to bench him for better options vs. PIT

Didn't you see how Rico Freaking Dowdle ran wild on them?

 

[rockaction]

As a dynasty shareholder I think he looked just like he’s always looked.

Still doesn't look right to me. I've been watching him intently since I traded for 1.01 in the rookie draft whereupon I promptly chose him. Look at all of last year and the the year before's explosive runs. He looks slower and more willing to crumple to the ground upon contact.

I don't like it. Love Breece but hate that he's playing at what seems to be at less than 100 percent.