RB Bucky Irving, TB (2 Viewers)

[rockaction]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?

No. "Lisfranc injuries can result from overuse or repetitive stress on the foot, particularly from activities like long-distance running, prolonged standing, or high-impact sports, which place sustained strain on the midfoot."

And I'm only throwing that out there. I mean, do you even know what the injury is?

So, like, no, it's not clearly anything.

 

[travdogg]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?

No. "Lisfranc injuries can result from overuse or repetitive stress on the foot, particularly from activities like long-distance running, prolonged standing, or high-impact sports, which place sustained strain on the midfoot."

And I'm only throwing that out there. I mean, do you even know what the injury is?

So, like, no, it's not clearly anything.

Because we saw the play it happened on, and his foot got caught under someone's body. Probably could have been a penalty on the Eagles for hip drop tackling. That could have happened on the 1st play of the season to anyone.

Tampa has done nothing but increase their reliance on Irving since last December. He's the most used RB in the NFL other than CMC this season. My point was, I don't see any reason why this injury would say to them that they were overusing Irving, because it wasn't an injury due to overuse.

 

[eighsse2]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?

No. "Lisfranc injuries can result from overuse or repetitive stress on the foot, particularly from activities like long-distance running, prolonged standing, or high-impact sports, which place sustained strain on the midfoot."

And I'm only throwing that out there. I mean, do you even know what the injury is?

So, like, no, it's not clearly anything.

But it's not a lisfranc as far as we know, is it?

But I guess, if lis franc is even plausible, then your point stands.

 

[rockaction]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?

No. "Lisfranc injuries can result from overuse or repetitive stress on the foot, particularly from activities like long-distance running, prolonged standing, or high-impact sports, which place sustained strain on the midfoot."

And I'm only throwing that out there. I mean, do you even know what the injury is?

So, like, no, it's not clearly anything.

But it's not a lisfranc as far as we know, is it?

But I guess, if lis franc is even plausible, then your point stands.

No, but I think i covered that.

But I'm also seemingly wrong. They announced it a day-plus ago. They're calling it a "foot sprain," which I'm seeing is a "mid-foot sprain" and is caused by movement and they don't seem to be listing overuse.

But I don't think we know anything about how they will manage it, or if their medical team says overuse can lead to acute injuries, etc. That was my main point. Seemed odd to declare they'd use him the same if you really don't know.

 

[eighsse2]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?

No. "Lisfranc injuries can result from overuse or repetitive stress on the foot, particularly from activities like long-distance running, prolonged standing, or high-impact sports, which place sustained strain on the midfoot."

And I'm only throwing that out there. I mean, do you even know what the injury is?

So, like, no, it's not clearly anything.

But it's not a lisfranc as far as we know, is it?

But I guess, if lis franc is even plausible, then your point stands.

No, but I think i covered that.

But I'm also seemingly wrong. They announced it a day-plus ago. They're calling it a "foot sprain," which I'm seeing is a "mid-foot sprain" and is caused by movement and they don't seem to be listing overuse.

But I don't think we know anything about how they will manage or if their medical team says overuse can lead to acute injuries, etc. That was my main point. Seemed odd to declare they'd use him the same if you really don't know.

Yeah the blanket statement of "this injury has ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with his workload" (whether talking about the past workload causing the injury, or the injury affecting the future workload) seemed oddly certain.

 

[BladeRunner]

Send in the chaplin to administer last rites

It’s Rachaad White szn

You’ve misspelled Sean Tucker. Easy mistake.

I’m not starting either of them except in best ball. Go sports and or team!

NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reports Rachaad White is expected to get the “vast majority of carries” in Week 5 against the Seahawks.
Bucky Irving is out with a foot injury, leaving the starting gig up for grabs. Third-string running back Sean Tucker has touched the ball once this year, while White has consistently spelled Irving when needed. Per Pelissero, the team also has a plan for Tucker, though it sounds like a minor role at most. White is locked in as an RB2 for his first start of the year.

 

[BladeRunner]

Sean Tucker time!

NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reports Rachaad White is expected to get the “vast majority of carries” in Week 5 against the Seahawks.
Bucky Irving is out with a foot injury, leaving the starting gig up for grabs. Third-string running back Sean Tucker has touched the ball once this year, while White has consistently spelled Irving when needed. Per Pelissero, the team also has a plan for Tucker, though it sounds like a minor role at most. White is locked in as an RB2 for his first start of the year.

 

[rockaction]

Ben Cummins
@BenCumminsFF

Adam Schefter reports Bucky Irving’s shoulder injury is worse than his foot injury and he’s expected to miss “at least two weeks.”Reports Michael Carter will be the go to RB for Arizona on first and second downs

https://x.com/BenCumminsFF/status/1974848982565499235

This got crappy in a hurry. BUT IT WASN'T OVERUSE!

 

[Footballdaz]

Watch him go on IR. I hate these secretive injuries.

 

[eagles 123]

Tucker is the back to own if this becomes long term…

 

[eighsse2]

Tucker is the back to own if this becomes long term…

If Rachaad White also becomes injured, and until they bring in literally any other RB, yes. That's how it seems, anyway. Rooting hard for Tucker.

 

[Ray_T]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?

No. "Lisfranc injuries can result from overuse or repetitive stress on the foot, particularly from activities like long-distance running, prolonged standing, or high-impact sports, which place sustained strain on the midfoot."

And I'm only throwing that out there. I mean, do you even know what the injury is?

So, like, no, it's not clearly anything.

here is a bing search showing causes of lisfranc injury

cause of a lisfranc injury - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

I dont know if this settles the argument but hopefully it adds some clarity.

it can happen when a large amount of weight is dropped on the foot. with a RB running between the tackles, having a lineman step on it could definitely cause this type of injury
especialy if making a cut and applying that twisting motion as mentioned.

 

[Truebluey]

Not only does he have a shoulder injury, he didn't tell the team about it, which seems to be causing drama.

Jenna Laine, ESPN
"Tampa Bay Buccaneers running back Bucky Irving not only has a foot sprain, but he is also dealing with a shoulder subluxation that is expected to sideline him for at least two weeks, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Irving did not report to the team that he was dealing with a shoulder injury until Tuesday, sources said. He will miss Sunday's game at the Seattle Seahawks and is not expected back for next week's home game against the San Francisco 49ers."

 

[Truebluey]

Also, a weird Instagram post from Bucky:

God gave his toughest battle to his toughest soldiers. Don't cry for me when the war is over. My eyes are open to who is here for me as a football player, and who is here for me as Mar'Keise Bucky Irving.

 

[Mitchie]

Also, a weird Instagram post from Bucky:

God gave his toughest battle to his toughest soldiers. Don't cry for me when the war is over. My eyes are open to who is here for me as a football player, and who is here for me as Mar'Keise Bucky Irving.

Sounds like the drugs are kicking in...

 

[eighsse2]

Also, a weird Instagram post from Bucky:

God gave his toughest battle to his toughest soldiers. Don't cry for me when the war is over. My eyes are open to who is here for me as a football player, and who is here for me as Mar'Keise Bucky Irving.

Sounds like the drugs are kicking in...

Dude thinks his name is Mar'Keise now? Got freaking bigger problems than foot injuries.

 

[eighsse2]

Does 6 touches for -1 yard mean I have to shut up about Sean Tucker for a little while?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

SF at home, he's OUT for that
@ Detroit, he might be out for that one as well and here's why...
@ NO Saints, the Bucs can beat them without Irving
BYE WEEK

I don't see Bucky coming back until after the Bye week, that would give him time to heal and the Bucs can still win 2 out their next 3 games if they play well.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but he is also dealing with a shoulder subluxation

That’s a partial dislocation for those not familiar. It often is a harbinger for future dislocations, because it’s indicative of a labrum tear.

That’s how mine started. First a subluxation, then a dislocation (with a full tear) then it gets easier and easier.

The subluxation is better for FF for this year, as it heals quicker than a full dislocation, but it anlso adds short term risk to his fantasy stock when he returns, because he’s at risk for full dislocation, and further damage to the labrum/rotator cuff.

Not ideal.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

but he is also dealing with a shoulder subluxation

That’s a partial dislocation for those not familiar. It often is a harbinger for future dislocations, because it’s indicative of a labrum tear.

That’s how mine started. First a subluxation, then a dislocation (with a full tear) then it gets easier and easier.

The subluxation is better for FF for this year, as it heals quicker than a full dislocation, but it anlso adds short term risk to his fantasy stock when he returns, because he’s at risk for full dislocation, and further damage to the labrum/rotator cuff.

Not ideal.

His career now is on the back nine is what you're saying

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but he is also dealing with a shoulder subluxation

That’s a partial dislocation for those not familiar. It often is a harbinger for future dislocations, because it’s indicative of a labrum tear.

That’s how mine started. First a subluxation, then a dislocation (with a full tear) then it gets easier and easier.

The subluxation is better for FF for this year, as it heals quicker than a full dislocation, but it anlso adds short term risk to his fantasy stock when he returns, because he’s at risk for full dislocation, and further damage to the labrum/rotator cuff.

Not ideal.

His career now is on the back nine is what you're saying

That is not at all what I am saying, no. lol

I’m saying he’s at greater risk of injury now than he was before, due to the nature of this injury.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Does 6 touches for -1 yard mean I have to shut up about Sean Tucker for a little while?

Well he had 3 PPR points if you play in a full point league.

 

[zeeshan2]

[Schefter] Bucs HC Todd Bowles told reporters that RB Bucky Irving (foot, shoulder) and Chris Godwin (fibula) are “not in play” for next Monday night’s game against the Detroit Lions.

 

[Dizzy]

[Schefter] Bucs HC Todd Bowles told reporters that RB Bucky Irving (foot, shoulder) and Chris Godwin (fibula) are “not in play” for next Monday night’s game against the Detroit Lions.

I get the rotten feeling Bucky is headed for IR. It started with the foot, but IIRC he may have been trying to hide the shoulder?

 

[fatness]

Rachaad White's doing pretty well in Bucky's absence.
Rachaad White gets no respect.

 

[jobarules]

[Schefter] Bucs HC Todd Bowles told reporters that RB Bucky Irving (foot, shoulder) and Chris Godwin (fibula) are “not in play” for next Monday night’s game against the Detroit Lions.

I get the rotten feeling Bucky is headed for IR. It started with the foot, but IIRC he may have been trying to hide the shoulder?

They probably should have IRd him but with the bye coming soon I bet you hes out 2 more weeks.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Rachaad White's doing pretty well in Bucky's absence.
Rachaad White gets no respect.

Yep. Hasn’t been overly efficient, but let’s be honest neither was Bucky before he got hurt. He was only averaging 3.3 ypc on the season.

 

[steelcityman]

[Schefter] Bucs HC Todd Bowles told reporters that RB Bucky Irving (foot, shoulder) and Chris Godwin (fibula) are “not in play” for next Monday night’s game against the Detroit Lions.

I get the rotten feeling Bucky is headed for IR. It started with the foot, but IIRC he may have been trying to hide the shoulder?

that would make sense, cause I had him Saquon and Breece, and all 3 arent making it easy on me.

I guess I can add Puca onto that list. YIKES!

 

[Dizzy]

Already ruled OUT for week 8.

 

[Jppaul]

if you had a championship quality team, would you sell Bucky now for a player to help maximize this year?

 

[xenon]

What is the latest news on him? Any homes have some info?

 

[Insein]

What is the latest news on him? Any homes have some info?

Some online sports doctors still think he has another week or 2 before he's ready. They base it on TB previous ramping up of other injured players. They usually let us know when a guy will start practicing weeks before he's ready to come back. We havent heard a peep on when practice starts for him.

 

[Grahamburn]

What is the latest news on him? Any homes have some info?

Apparently there’s a message from him on Instagram that he’s “good to go.” Whether or not the medical staff agrees is another concern.

Bucs also opened the practice window for RT Luke Goedeke. Huge for Tampa’s offense as backup swing tackle Charlie Heck has surrendered the most pressure in the NFL.

Bucs’ offense trending up.

 

[steelwind]

What is going on with this injury situation? We don't have anyone plugged into the Bucs?

 

[Runkle]

What is the latest news on him? Any homes have some info?

Apparently there’s a message from him on Instagram that he’s “good to go.” Whether or not the medical staff agrees is another concern.

Bucs also opened the practice window for RT Luke Goedeke. Huge for Tampa’s offense as backup swing tackle Charlie Heck has surrendered the most pressure in the NFL.

Bucs’ offense trending up.

Turns out that message was second-hand and dated 10/22 and not confirmed since

 

[UncleZen]

Well, my wife, who knows almost nothing about football and uses the force, says Bucky is likely to play. I ask her on some of my coinflip decisions and she stares into space and gives me the answers. I would say she's about 75% this year, which is as good or better than the "experts." So you heard it here 1st!

 

[gump]

Buccaneers' Bucky Irving: Not in line to practice

Buccaneers' Bucky Irving: Not in line to practice

www.cbssports.com

 

[LawFitz]

I smell fish here

 

[steelwind]

What a let down.

 

[Lansdowne]

Yeah they should’ve put this guy on short term IR

 

[BladeRunner]

Yeah they should’ve put this guy on short term IR

as a Rachaad White owner, I 100% agree they should put him on IR today.

 

[Faust]

@SleeperNFL
Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin won’t play in Week 10, per HC Todd Bowles.

https://x.com/sleepernfl/status/1986846192576381132?s=61

 

[tkrull2.0]

Last year I was Team White and it didn't go as planned. Decided to correct the situation this year and went Team Bucky. Next year will probably be Team No-Bucs...

 

[Grahamburn]

Last year I was Team White and it didn't go as planned. Decided to correct the situation this year and went Team Bucky. Next year will probably be Team No-Bucs...

Going for the trifecta.

 

[Dizzy]

Bucky Irving still on double-secret probation IR (w/ Terry McLauren).

 

[The Frankman]

Twitter - Jesse Morse, M.D. on the botching of Bucky Irving's diagnosis by the Bucs staff

 

[steelwind]

Never drafting a Bucs player again just for this reason alone.
Wasted roster spot.

 

[Lansdowne]

Never drafting a Bucs player again just for this reason alone.
Wasted roster spot.

The Bucs seem to have underestimated the injuries to Godwin and Irving. What a mess.

 

[Pietaster2]

Does anybody think Bucky is actually coming back this season?

 

[kyoun1e]

Does anybody think Bucky is actually coming back this season?

This whole situation has a Joe Mixon vibe to it.