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RB Bucky Irving, TB (1 Viewer)

I'm a fan and have been since I saw his first carries at Oregon but he had one of the worst combines a college RB has ever had. I'm rooting for him and think he is a better player than the combine figures reflect but it needs to be a red flag on him.
 
General Malaise said:
I'm a fan and have been since I saw his first carries at Oregon but he had one of the worst combines a college RB has ever had. I'm rooting for him and think he is a better player than the combine figures reflect but it needs to be a red flag on him.
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That RAS number is brutal. Feel like that kind of thing matters the least for RBs though.

Dalvin Cook bombing his comes to mind.

Tough to measure the contact balance, vision, and tackle breaking ability inherent in great backs.
 
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Kyren Williams has been very productive in the NFL despite having a poor RAS score. Bucky Irving should not be written off for having a poor RAS score.
 
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Kent Lee Platte
Kyren Williams was drafted with pick 164 of round 5 in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 3.52 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 1059 out of 1632 RB from 1987 to 2022. ras.football/ras-informatio… #RAS #Rams
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Kyren Williams has been very productive in the NFL despite having a poor RAS score. Bucky Irving should not be written off for having a poor RAS score.
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Grahamburn said:
General Malaise said:
I'm a fan and have been since I saw his first carries at Oregon but he had one of the worst combines a college RB has ever had. I'm rooting for him and think he is a better player than the combine figures reflect but it needs to be a red flag on him.
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That RAS number is brutal. Feel like that kind of thing matters the least for RBs though.

Dalvin Cook bombing his comes to mind.

Tough to measure the contact balance, vision, and tackle breaking ability inherent in great backs.
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Hope you're right because I drafted him today in a dynasty league but I'm also a huge fan and that usually clouds my judgement....see James, LaMichael and Freeman, Royce.
 
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Kyren Williams was drafted with pick 164 of round 5 in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 3.52 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 1059 out of 1632 RB from 1987 to 2022. ras.football/ras-informatio… #RAS #Rams
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Kyren Williams has been very productive in the NFL despite having a poor RAS score. Bucky Irving should not be written off for having a poor RAS score.
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Wait wait wait. Faust can talk?
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Faust became self-aware on Thursday May 2 around 8:40 pm ET
 
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Kent Lee Platte
Kyren Williams was drafted with pick 164 of round 5 in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 3.52 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 1059 out of 1632 RB from 1987 to 2022. ras.football/ras-informatio… #RAS #Rams
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Kyren Williams has been very productive in the NFL despite having a poor RAS score. Bucky Irving should not be written off for having a poor RAS score.
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Wait wait wait. Faust can talk?
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Faust became self-aware on Thursday May 2 around 8:40 pm ET
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seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
 
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
 
Bucky is a going to be a good test between body & athletic measurables vs. football player. His body, combine & workout numbers are below average pretty much across the board. But his actual game plays shows some serious football abilities. His stable metrics are damn near the top in every category too.

I'll take the football player side and say he way outperforms his draft spot in NFL & Fantasy.
 
beef said:
Bucky is a going to be a good test between body & athletic measurables vs. football player. His body, combine & workout numbers are below average pretty much across the board. But his actual game plays shows some serious football abilities. His stable metrics are damn near the top in every category too.

I'll take the football player side and say he way outperforms his draft spot in NFL & Fantasy.
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PFF seems to love his "things the RB can control" metrics.
 
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JohnnyU said:
Poor man's James Cook?
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Isn’t he just poor mans rachaad white?
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Rachaad White took a significant step forward last season, and I don't see Irving challenging White for a passing-down role. I wish Irving had been drafted into a better situation. He was the 6th RB taken in the Draft, which is better than I expected heading into the Draft, but I am curious how others would rank Irving's dynasty value compared to some other backs taken after him:

Bucky Irving, TB (Rd. 4, Pick 25)
Will Shipley, PHI (Rd. 4, Pick 27)
Ray Davis, BUF (Rd. 4, Pick 28)
Isaac Guerendo, SF (Rd. 4, Pick 29)
Braelon Allen, NYJ (Rd. 4, Pick 34)
Audric Estime, DEN (Rd. 5, Pick 12)
Tyrone Tracy, Jr., NYG (Rd. 5, Pick 31)
Kimani Vidal, LAC (Rd. 6, Pick 5)
Dylan Laube, LVR (Rd. 6, Pick 32)
Dillon Johnson, TEN (UDFA)
Michael Wiley, WAS (UDFA)
Blake Watson, DEN (UDFA)
Carson Steele, KC (UDFA)

I fear Irving may have to cut his teeth with ST work until an opportunity presents itself to get on the field with the offense. Good players will seize opportunities; hopefully, that will be the case for Irving.
 
travdogg said:
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
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I'm not a huge White fan despite rooting for the Bucs
I will tell you the IOL stunk last year and the Bucs could not run the football very well
That said...White gobbled up 272 carries for 3.6 yds per carry which flat out sucks
He hasn't technically cracked 1,000 yds rushing yet entering Year 3 and some of you are ready to dismiss Bucky Irving or say he's not a challenger for touches, I disagree

White is 6-2/215
Irving is 5-9/195, they are not built the same.

White 91st overall
Irving 125th overall...similar range, 91st is LATE 3rd, Irving went in the 4th round, not light years of talent difference here IMHO but again they are not the same RB
I see Bucky a lot like Trav is viewing him.
Bucky totaled almost 3,000 total yds his last 2 years of college with 21 TDs to pair with those numbers, think Bucky will get some work between the 20s this year for sure.
 
socrates said:
Loipz said:
JohnnyU said:
Poor man's James Cook?
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Isn’t he just poor mans rachaad white?
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Rachaad White took a significant step forward last season, and I don't see Irving challenging White for a passing-down role. I wish Irving had been drafted into a better situation. He was the 6th RB taken in the Draft, which is better than I expected heading into the Draft, but I am curious how others would rank Irving's dynasty value compared to some other backs taken after him:

Bucky Irving, TB (Rd. 4, Pick 25)
Will Shipley, PHI (Rd. 4, Pick 27)
Ray Davis, BUF (Rd. 4, Pick 28)
Isaac Guerendo, SF (Rd. 4, Pick 29)
Braelon Allen, NYJ (Rd. 4, Pick 34)
Audric Estime, DEN (Rd. 5, Pick 12)
Tyrone Tracy, Jr., NYG (Rd. 5, Pick 31)
Kimani Vidal, LAC (Rd. 6, Pick 5)
Dylan Laube, LVR (Rd. 6, Pick 32)
Dillon Johnson, TEN (UDFA)
Michael Wiley, WAS (UDFA)
Blake Watson, DEN (UDFA)
Carson Steele, KC (UDFA)

I fear Irving may have to cut his teeth with ST work until an opportunity presents itself to get on the field with the offense. Good players will seize opportunities; hopefully, that will be the case for Irving.
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Bucs' fans, myself included, thought it was quite odd that Ray Davis was not the selection considering Liam Coen is now the OC in Tampa.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
travdogg said:
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
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I'm not a huge White fan despite rooting for the Bucs
I will tell you the IOL stunk last year and the Bucs could not run the football very well
That said...White gobbled up 272 carries for 3.6 yds per carry which flat out sucks
He hasn't technically cracked 1,000 yds rushing yet entering Year 3 and some of you are ready to dismiss Bucky Irving or say he's not a challenger for touches, I disagree

White is 6-2/215
Irving is 5-9/195, they are not built the same.

White 91st overall
Irving 125th overall...similar range, 91st is LATE 3rd, Irving went in the 4th round, not light years of talent difference here IMHO but again they are not the same RB
I see Bucky a lot like Trav is viewing him.
Bucky totaled almost 3,000 total yds his last 2 years of college with 21 TDs to pair with those numbers, think Bucky will get some work between the 20s this year for sure.
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I think they want someone to cut into White's early down work. Bucky's tackle breaking ability, vision, and contact balance should help him carve out a role there. His college metrics suggest he does all of the "RB things" better than White. He is NOT a good blocker, so I don't think they intend to use him on 3rd downs.
 
Grahamburn said:
Ministry of Pain said:
travdogg said:
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
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I'm not a huge White fan despite rooting for the Bucs
I will tell you the IOL stunk last year and the Bucs could not run the football very well
That said...White gobbled up 272 carries for 3.6 yds per carry which flat out sucks
He hasn't technically cracked 1,000 yds rushing yet entering Year 3 and some of you are ready to dismiss Bucky Irving or say he's not a challenger for touches, I disagree

White is 6-2/215
Irving is 5-9/195, they are not built the same.

White 91st overall
Irving 125th overall...similar range, 91st is LATE 3rd, Irving went in the 4th round, not light years of talent difference here IMHO but again they are not the same RB
I see Bucky a lot like Trav is viewing him.
Bucky totaled almost 3,000 total yds his last 2 years of college with 21 TDs to pair with those numbers, think Bucky will get some work between the 20s this year for sure.
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I think they want someone to cut into White's early down work. Bucky's tackle breaking ability, vision, and contact balance should help him carve out a role there. His college metrics suggest he does all of the "RB things" better than White. He is NOT a good blocker, so I don't think they intend to use him on 3rd downs.
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I've found that being good at pass blocking and playing on 3rd downs has very little correlation. Ultimately receiving ability>>>>>pass blocking ability.

Just for a quick example, if you look at the bottom-10 RBs at pass blocking in 2023, that list includes:

Christian McCaffrey
David Montgomery
Jaylen Warren
Jahmyr Gibbs
Alvin Kamara (dead last)
James Cook
Joe Mixon
Miles Sanders
Javonte Williams
Austin Ekeler
 
Grahamburn said:
Ministry of Pain said:
travdogg said:
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
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I'm not a huge White fan despite rooting for the Bucs
I will tell you the IOL stunk last year and the Bucs could not run the football very well
That said...White gobbled up 272 carries for 3.6 yds per carry which flat out sucks
He hasn't technically cracked 1,000 yds rushing yet entering Year 3 and some of you are ready to dismiss Bucky Irving or say he's not a challenger for touches, I disagree

White is 6-2/215
Irving is 5-9/195, they are not built the same.

White 91st overall
Irving 125th overall...similar range, 91st is LATE 3rd, Irving went in the 4th round, not light years of talent difference here IMHO but again they are not the same RB
I see Bucky a lot like Trav is viewing him.
Bucky totaled almost 3,000 total yds his last 2 years of college with 21 TDs to pair with those numbers, think Bucky will get some work between the 20s this year for sure.
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I think they want someone to cut into White's early down work. Bucky's tackle breaking ability, vision, and contact balance should help him carve out a role there. His college metrics suggest he does all of the "RB things" better than White. He is NOT a good blocker, so I don't think they intend to use him on 3rd downs.
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At least by yards per target White has been a very good receiving RB so why fix what is already great?
 
Biabreakable said:
Grahamburn said:
Ministry of Pain said:
travdogg said:
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
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I'm not a huge White fan despite rooting for the Bucs
I will tell you the IOL stunk last year and the Bucs could not run the football very well
That said...White gobbled up 272 carries for 3.6 yds per carry which flat out sucks
He hasn't technically cracked 1,000 yds rushing yet entering Year 3 and some of you are ready to dismiss Bucky Irving or say he's not a challenger for touches, I disagree

White is 6-2/215
Irving is 5-9/195, they are not built the same.

White 91st overall
Irving 125th overall...similar range, 91st is LATE 3rd, Irving went in the 4th round, not light years of talent difference here IMHO but again they are not the same RB
I see Bucky a lot like Trav is viewing him.
Bucky totaled almost 3,000 total yds his last 2 years of college with 21 TDs to pair with those numbers, think Bucky will get some work between the 20s this year for sure.
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I think they want someone to cut into White's early down work. Bucky's tackle breaking ability, vision, and contact balance should help him carve out a role there. His college metrics suggest he does all of the "RB things" better than White. He is NOT a good blocker, so I don't think they intend to use him on 3rd downs.
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At least by yards per target White has been a very good receiving RB so why fix what is already great?
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He has been an excellent receiver. He has missed a lot of open lanes and opportunities for big(ger) plays as a runner though.

Irving has some receiving chops too, but White is pure.
 
Biabreakable said:
Grahamburn said:
Ministry of Pain said:
travdogg said:
TripItUp said:
seems to profile as maybe slightly better than a JAG?

I'd be happy if I was a White owner...I don't see much of an immediate threat.
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The issue for White is Irving has one skill he's really good at, and that's pass catching, and while White is also good at it, if you are going to take touches off White's plate, that's the logical place to start, as its the only aspect of RB that someone on the team is as good (arguably better) than White.

Irving profiles as a Patriots style 3rd down type to me. In the Kevin Faulk, Danny Woodhead, James White mold. Not enough to make a run at a starting job, but enough to be really annoying for Rachaad White owners, and really useful for Baker Mayfield.
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I'm not a huge White fan despite rooting for the Bucs
I will tell you the IOL stunk last year and the Bucs could not run the football very well
That said...White gobbled up 272 carries for 3.6 yds per carry which flat out sucks
He hasn't technically cracked 1,000 yds rushing yet entering Year 3 and some of you are ready to dismiss Bucky Irving or say he's not a challenger for touches, I disagree

White is 6-2/215
Irving is 5-9/195, they are not built the same.

White 91st overall
Irving 125th overall...similar range, 91st is LATE 3rd, Irving went in the 4th round, not light years of talent difference here IMHO but again they are not the same RB
I see Bucky a lot like Trav is viewing him.
Bucky totaled almost 3,000 total yds his last 2 years of college with 21 TDs to pair with those numbers, think Bucky will get some work between the 20s this year for sure.
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I think they want someone to cut into White's early down work. Bucky's tackle breaking ability, vision, and contact balance should help him carve out a role there. His college metrics suggest he does all of the "RB things" better than White. He is NOT a good blocker, so I don't think they intend to use him on 3rd downs.
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At least by yards per target White has been a very good receiving RB so why fix what is already great?
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He’s been extraordinary. His catch rate is elite.

Irving would have to be a spectacular pass catcher at the next level to take White off the field in those situations imo.
 
There's challenging for touches, and there's giving a workhorse a breather. Last year, Rachaad was 2nd to only CMC for touches (339 to 336), but he was 1st in snaps with 861.

As for Rachaad the rusher, even though he managed only 3.6 yards per carry, that was still better than all 3 RB's behind him (Edmonds, Vaughn, Tucker). They combined to run for 2.7 yards per carry. And as a rookie in 2022, his 3.7 yards per carry was better than all 3 RB's (Fournette, Vaughn, Bernard). The Bucs are simply horrid at run blocking. Now, I'm not saying White is a great runner. He's probably just a step above a JAG.

As for Rachaad the receiver, I think he is one of the best in the NFL. I'm quite certain Baker knows this as well, and Irving is not a threat to steal catches. This doesn't mean Irving won't catch a decent amount of passes - it just means Irving will catch passes while giving Rachaad a breather.

If Bucky Irving is going to stand out, it's not going to be by showing he is a better receiver.
 
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There's challenging for touches, and there's giving a workhorse a breather. Last year, Rachaad was 2nd to only CMC for touches (339 to 336), but he was 1st in snaps with 861.

As for Rachaad the rusher, even though he managed only 3.6 yards per carry, that was still better than all 3 RB's behind him (Edmonds, Vaughn, Tucker). They combined to run for 2.7 yards per carry. And as a rookie in 2022, his 3.7 yards per carry was better than all 3 RB's (Fournette, Vaughn, Bernard). The Bucs are simply horrid at run blocking. Now, I'm not saying White is a great runner. He's probably just a step above a JAG.

As for Rachaad the receiver, I think he is one of the best in the NFL. I'm quite certain Baker knows this as well, and Irving is not a threat to steal catches. This doesn't mean Irving won't catch a decent amount of passes - it just means Irving will catch passes while giving Rachaad a breather.

If Bucky Irving is going to stand out, it's not going to be by showing he is a better receiver.
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Dead last two years in a row, but the line started playing better later in the season. Especially Cody Mauch, who was drafted in the 2nd round and then converted from LT to RG from an FCS school. So, steep learning curve. Go look at Rachaad's game logs and how the ypc really started to improve in week 12. 6 games over 4.0 ypc (including both playoff games) for him whereas weeks 1-11 he had just 2 such games. Rachaad needs to be better, but they've made big investments in this offensive line. Also now adding Graham Barton in the first round to play center over Robert Hainsey, who was the lowest rated starting center in the NFL last year. They now have two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks on their line.
 
It usually takes a couple seasons for offensive linemen to play at their highest level although high picks are expected to play right away.

Anyhow its good reason to expect the blocking to improve for the Bucs over the next few seasons.

The Vikings made similar investments into their Oline over a few seasons and are considered an average to above average group now, even though 2 of those picks didn't really pan out.
 
Biabreakable said:
It usually takes a couple seasons for offensive linemen to play at their highest level although high picks are expected to play right away.

Anyhow its good reason to expect the blocking to improve for the Bucs over the next few seasons.

The Vikings made similar investments into their Oline over a few seasons and are considered an average to above average group now, even though 2 of those picks didn't really pan out.
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Mauch has put on 10-15 pounds of good weight this offseason hoping to improve his play strength. They added Barton in the draft as well as 3 depth guys that could be upgrades at LG.

I think they’ll definitely be a better rushing team. Maybe not juggernauts, but not bottom feeders anymore.
 
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Bucky Irving is one of the best late-round RB picks in fantasy football.

Just finished rewatching all the carries from last weekend. 👀👀👀

Opposite of Rachaad White.

Decisive downhill runner despite smaller stature.

Was gonna cut up film but Zareh already did! 👇🙏
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Dwain McFarland
Bucky Irving is one of the best late-round RB picks in fantasy football.

Just finished rewatching all the carries from last weekend. 👀👀👀

Opposite of Rachaad White.

Decisive downhill runner despite smaller stature.

Was gonna cut up film but Zareh already did! 👇🙏
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I do not think Rashaad White is a very good ball carrier so there is a role to be carved out in this backfield. Not a ton of space in these clips, but a lot to like about how elusive he is at the point of contact. Should be more buzz here.
 
This guy and Brooks were drafted in spots where they can just straight up take the RB1 spot from the current RB1 right? I’m gonna have to drop Michael Wilson for him. That opportunity is worth more than Kyler’s number 2 receiver right? Number 3 behind McBride, rather.
 
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This guy and Brooks were drafted in spots where they can just straight up take the RB1 spot from the current RB1 right? I’m gonna have to drop Michael Wilson for him. That opportunity is worth more than Kyler’s number 2 receiver right? Number 3 behind McBride, rather.
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If Rachaad White is healthy I’d be surprised if Bucky got more than 5 or so touches a game.

That being said Bucky looked really good running the football in pre-season. If White falters in that facet of his game again we might see Irving getting more carries as the season wears on.
 
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When asked about his running back rotation Wednesday, Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Todd Bowles stated that Rachaad White would be given the first crack at touches in the backfield rotation. "I think it will be a game-by-game basis," said Bowles. "You normally go with the hot hand, but since nobody has played yet, obviously Rachaad [White] starts and then we'll kinda go from there and see how the other guys are used." It's an interesting statement by the Bucs' coach, as he may be hinting at more of a split in Tampa Bay's backfield than initially anticipated. White led all running backs in the NFL in snaps last season (861) and took on a workhorse role in his sophomore year. The third-year RB was one of the better pass-catching weapons out of the backfield in 2023 but did not exhibit nearly the same efficiency as a runner. While it's most likely just a head coach attempting to lessen a player's load, this is a situation to monitor, as White would lose value if backup Bucky Irving were to eat into his workload.--Alex Ciulla
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Not such a ringing endorsement for Mr. White to keep that job!
 
That's Sean Tucker's music.

I like Irving's game film, but 192 pounds with 4.55 speed is a problematic combination.

I think he's a Gio Bernard type. He can give you a few good touches per game and be dynamic as a receiver.

Without home run explosiveness or every down power, there's probably a lowish ceiling.
 
I spoke with a friend of mine who lives in Tampa. hes a keener. been to a few pre season practices.

seems to think Bucky has the backup job sewn up but will not unseat white this year (barring injury) but there is a lot of crossover in the skillset, so the team shouldnt need to change the way they play a whole lot if White goes down.

I was down on the low yards per carry but this friend of mine insists it was the line and the scheme which has since had alterations and he seems to think White will be more productive running the ball than he was last year. Hes pretty critical of his team most times so I dont think hes wearing the homer glasses on this.

he seems to think the plan is to run Rachaad and when the contract is up they will switch over to Bucky who is still on the rookie deal. it seems like a reasonable plan. but I think Bucky will be getting a decent chunk of carries, but likely has no fantasy value this year unless something happens to Rachaad White.
 
We’ll obviously see how it goes. Both Irving and Tucker were definitely impressive in pre-season.

White was the lone RB on the only series the #1 offense played in pre-season. He carried it 4 times for 16 yards, caught a screen for 17 yards, and then scored the TD to finish it off.

I don’t think his job is in jeopardy at all. Especially early in the season. If he’s missing the holes and only averaging 3.6 ypc I do think he could lose a higher handful of carries later in the season.
 
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