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RB Bucky Irving, TB (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Grahamburn
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crushedspirit
Footballguy
He looked good for sure
TB should trade the 1 yard plodder and go with today's backfield combo
The General
Footballguy
The reverse jinx. 70% of the time it works every time. You’re welcome.
The General
Footballguy
This backfield is a total mess now. Stacked in real life, fantasy headache.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
No. They should not.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
okay
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Just feels like the Demarco Murrays days of running guys into the ground are over. Teams are playing it a little smarter. I was shocked at his under usage today. Glad he got the TD.
Donny Loved Bowling
Footballguy
Half the touches? Tucker and Irving each had 14 carries. Tucker caught 3 balls, Irving 2.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
We do have a Sean Tucker problem though.
Bucky was a lottery ticket, but looks a little bust with a 3 headed monster.
You can't keep these guys off the field now, actually gotta look at Tampa for a Super Bowl future, they're pretty stacked
eighsse2
Footballguy
Maybe runkle meant to say nearly double the yards on similar touches.
zamboni
Footballguy
Tucker did have about half the snaps as Irving did (49-28), but touches are what matters and that snap count could change over time.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Team loves White in passing situations, so it would appear to be heading down that route which would make all 3 flex plays at best unless injuries or a trade change the landscape.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Username checks out among Sean Tucker owners.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
LOL
I don't own any Tucker shares. I did last season and might try to grab a share today. I do own one Irving share in one of my keeper leagues.
Is Tucker worth a start? I think he’s a FA in all my leagues at this point.
eagles 123
Footballguy
Not sure about start but worth a speculation add imo in case Bucky’s injury is worse or White gets hurt again.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Yes.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
I got tucker loaded up in a flex slot right now. This is the week. And if that toe injury turns out to be turf toe, it will linger.
I'm excited for Tucker but this offense is gonna be a steaming pile with no Godwin/Evans.
Last chance to get him though.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Tucker is their best RB, IMO. He's certainly their best pure runner.
Probably only a matter of time before Tucker is starting, but this backfield could take a number of turns before that comes to fruition. Very likely won't happen until next season.
Probably only a matter of time before Tucker is starting, but this backfield could take a number of turns before that comes to fruition. Very likely won't happen until next season.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
All 3 are still under contract next season. If this one is any indication they should be keeping them all.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Why does everyone think the Bucs are just going to flat out suck? They have talent all over the roster- albeit the top 5 ceiling for the offense will come down, it's still below average to average without these WR's. White and Tucker are definitely flex options going forward.
People are starting Najee and Warren. Why not White and the second RB in the platoon? Irving is hurt, so Tucker is a start.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I think the offense will still be about average. Around 20 or so ppg. Maybe 23. You feel like Evans/Godwin is probably worth 7-10 points.
The problem is the defense has been so bad it'll be difficult for them to stay in games now to actually get the running game going with a guy like Tucker. Or Bucky. They were running it well against the Ravens but couldn't stick to it because the defense kept giving up points every drive.
Should lead to White-friendly scripts.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
What about Tucker-friendly scripts?
Someone here stated he’s out this week. I picked up Tucker. Oh well…
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Tucker is still a good pickup. Both White and Irving have been dinged up recently. Would not surprise me if Tucker is the Bucs RB1 before the season is up. I know that's taboo to say in the Bucky Irving thread, but I stand by my statement!Someone here stated he’s out this week. I picked up Tucker. Oh well…
packer_junkie
Footballguy
he is there best RB!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's simply not true when you factor in Blitz pick up and ability to run the wheel route out of the back field, those things matter to Head Coaches that don't play FF
I have been one of White's biggest critics and I root for the Bucs anytime they don't play the Phins, lived in Tampa Bay and use to go to the old Sombrero
-White is by far their best receiving RB and he adds a lot when he is in the back field as a dual threat.
In the 2 games prior to White missing a week, he had 20 carries for over 120 yds on the ground, he was not holding the offense back I got news for people
-I know we want whoever the guy is on our FF team to be anointed as "The Man"
I think it's best to accept that the Bucs need all 3 of these guys right now with WRs coming up "X" right now
They were down 34-10 entering the 4th Q last week, how can you tell which RB is going to emerge when the score is that lopsided?
And I assure you White is by far their most accomplished receiver out of the backfield and Baker loves him
Let's not try and create scenarios that are leaps of faith IMHO
Let's deal with the fact and reality
You can feel however you want but the coaching staff isn't gathering around and saying out loud that Irving is their best RB and they need to feed him
packer_junkie
Footballguy
lol you must not watch the games....
I can guarantee they started the year thinking White would be a heavy leader in touches and now its a split at best----> What do you possibly think could have led to that change????
I can guarantee they started the year thinking White would be a heavy leader in touches and now its a split at best----> What do you possibly think could have led to that change????
nittanylion
Footballguy
Here we go...
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I listed several factors and was about to unload some more stats but its not worth the effort when someone writes back..."You don't watch the games"
That's pretty much a cop out after the post I wrote
I dialed right in on White who you can't even name in your post, because you dismiss him too quickly
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336 touches, 1,500+ yds, 9 TDs last year and almost 140 catches over about 35 games in the NFL since he arrived 2 years ago
Even when Godwin and Evans are healthy they still throw often to White and now the Bucs' Star WRs aren't available and you feel Bucky Irving is the focal point of the offense now?
You can't just use White on 3rd down, the defense would know he's only out there to catch the football
You can "feel" that way about Bucky but there isn't a lot of hard evidence to support it right now
Cheers!
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packer_junkie
Footballguy
I never said hes the focal point. I never said he should be used on every 1st and 2nd down.
I said hes the best RB on the team. I 1000000% stand by that statement.
calm down
I said hes the best RB on the team. I 1000000% stand by that statement.
calm down
no question…Cohen loves this kid
I'm sure their best RB isn't White, but I'm still not sure that it isn't Tucker
eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah. Tucker's sample size is still far too small to be reliable, but his production has been too insane to not kick the tires a little more than three opps today.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Nasty matchup @ KC next MNF
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I meant to give you a shoutout in the game thread, I watched almost all of it and Irving did well
White looked good especially catching the ball
16- 84 yds, 7 catches included gives him 15 PPR?
White 11-67 yds, 5 catches and of course the TD
Seems like there is room for both, Irving looked good
Cheers
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Bucky's vision is better than the other two backs from what I've seen in games. He creates more yards on his own with patience and the ability to find space even when it appears there is none. He's currently 7th in forced missed tackles according to PFF.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Only to see Tucker fumble
Makes perfect sense
Makes perfect sense
