Runkle
Footballguy
At least they let Bucky stay in next time they got inside the 10. And resulted in a Bucky 6 yard TD.
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RB Bucky Irving, TB (2 Viewers)
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At least they let Bucky stay in next time they got inside the 10. And resulted in a Bucky 6 yard TD.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Bucky chants on the road is pretty great.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
He creates much of his yards with all those missed tackles. The guy has vision and knows when and where to cut.
Loved Dunn and Alstott, but I get what you’re saying.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Some guys are just football good.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Looked great
packer_junkie
Footballguy
I was right. You were wrong. Have a good day.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He had mop up duty and poured it on, game was out of hand by the 2nd or 3rd drive, not much to draw from here
I already gave you a shoutout weeks ago
What happens if White has a big game in say Week 15 or the 1st game of the Playoffs?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He has been receiving more carries than White. I think 4 games in a row now? He's not going to be truly featured I don't think, but usage definitely trending up. They made an effort to use Tucker yesterday, but he fumbled on the goal-line and also had a bad special teams play.
Runkle
Footballguy
I don't really mind if they keep him the #2 in the running game if they're also going to give him half the work Godwin was getting in the passing game
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And then there's that juicy schedule ahead
The fumble was a downer no doubt but he was able to exploit some big holes in the running game.
The stats and ranking are not showing how this OL is starting to gel and come together. Wirfs out right now is a major loss but the other 4 are playing well
Baker also makes them look better with his mobility in the pocket
Irving looks great
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Very much ignored this guy due to this size and the running game being dog water last year.
also, a R. White dynasty holder
Low and behold, it was, in fact, most likely Rachaad White's fault
Bucky is a probable league winner if you got him for basically nothing and already have a strong roster.
also, a R. White dynasty holder
Low and behold, it was, in fact, most likely Rachaad White's fault
Bucky is a probable league winner if you got him for basically nothing and already have a strong roster.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Skule is actually a plus run blocker. Wirfs will be back soon. Bunch of bad D’s to get their run game going.
His name is Bucky and he plays for the Bucs. What other metric would you need to see?
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Why don't you post a poll on here and we can see who a group of random FF fans think is better? All I did was say Bucky is their best RB and you went off lol.....He had mop up duty and poured it on, game was out of hand by the 2nd or 3rd drive, not much to draw from here
I already gave you a shoutout weeks ago
What happens if White has a big game in say Week 15 or the 1st game of the Playoffs?
Irving's got a little De'Von Achane to him, where if he can just get the top role, not even true workhorse, just top role, there is a path to top 5-10 upside. Not saying that will happen, but its on the table. He's EASILY the best RB on this team and has been the most impressive RB from this class in my opinion.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Not sure he has the long speed to be Achane but he sure can play. I see him more as a very rich man’s Singletary
He certainly doesn't have the long speed. I meant more the role, and the ability to make a lot out of 15-20 touches.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
They'll need to make that graph a little bigger after tonight.x.com
x.com
How elusive NFL RBs have been weeks 1-12.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He’s incredible.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
League winner I drafted in every league for pennies
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
downsized
So why is Rachaad in for OT if he is no brainer? He carries them, yet not trusted at the end?
Eta...venting...lost by 5 and likely lost bye so watching Rachaad in OT doubly annoying
Eta...venting...lost by 5 and likely lost bye so watching Rachaad in OT doubly annoying
Dickies
Footballguy
This is the sole reason I drafted him with my final pick. It has worked out.
I am not 100% sure, but I saw on another message board someone posted that Bucky's hip was wrapped and he did not play in OT.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
He hurt it end of the first half, was getting it wrapped with a heating pad going to OT
Runkle
Footballguy
Benched him for Monty and Henry, I guess now I have to reconsider. At least with Henry on a bye next week that decision will be easier once.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
Man I really have to consider benching Breece Hall for him. In half PPR I think I’m ready. I hope they shut down Hall and make it easy for me.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Hip tightened up on him. Sorry about the L.
Hopefully they stop using him on kick offs. That’s how he hurt it.
zamboni
Footballguy
Guess it shouldn't be too surprising that White is being phased out more - was widely discussed in the offseason that he's a plus blocker and receiver, but was lacking in the run game and had benefited from huge volume. Just didn't see Bucky being this good - nice problem for the team to have and relegate White primarily to 3rd down duties going forward.
I'm excited! We saw Baker and Otton on the same page last year at the years end with the slot utliziation. So when Godwin went down, I wasn't shocked Otton stepped up... BUT THIS IS A BUCKY THREAD!
I am such a fan. If you've seen me on any FBG show you know I am not too keen on Rachaad White. When he was in and Bucky was out on that late 3rd & 1, I thought the Bucs would again be losing a one score game. I don't mind White getting the passing downs work, but please just keep Bucky between the tackles.
Capella
Footballguy
I love White’s pass blocking and the way he patiently waits to set up his screens but he for sure is nowhere the runner Bucky is. Fun duo.
Kyren Williams was the same way.
ETA: If you wanna go way back, LeSean McCoy had terrible measurables too, accompanied by elite tape.
I am absolutely guilty of being way to low on Kyren and Bucky over the combine/workout numbers.
In my defense I'd have to say I got guidelines for this kind of thing and in previous 10+ years the closest RB before these two that I drastically lowered so much based on the combine that came back to prove me wrong was Singeltary, which never really was that impactful, so the formula has worked but mistakes like these two will make me go back and revise how I'll look at things going forward.
As a point of conversation I did not view McCoy that way. Not a great workout but he had positives and that's always been the way I viewed things, my formula. I've always been ok with a RB not being fast, but what I was not ok with is ALL the available testing was substandard. In McCoy's case he was not slow, but he had abysmal jumps which is a concern for explosive ability. But he had a super strong 3 cone, that's the positive I needed and combined with decent enough 40 speed I had enough positives to work with.
I'll try and keep a more open mind in the future when RB's perform poorly on all the testing especially since most RB's don't do all the testing any longer, the 3 cone that saved McCoy for instance is rarely done any longer. But like most things it all requires some nuance. CEH was a small RB with poor workout numbers but he had that one postiive I needed, the vertical ability which demonstrates short area explosive ability. Combined with the film I was able to overlook the fact he was small and slow. That's a case where maybe the combine/measurables should have made him an avoid , especially at cost.
I think for me I'm still not going to be in a rush to use first round type rookie draft capital on smaller RB's with mid draft capital whose available testing is all poor. But I think I need to be be more open to dropping second round type capital on them instead of ignoring them or being so low on them I never really come close to drafting them.
Personally, I don't really move guys down due to measurables unless they are REALLY bad, but I do move guys up if their measurables are REALLY good, and there is at least something on tape. DK Metcalf is a great example of the latter, where I had him as the #1 WR in his draft class.
I had Irving in a bundle of tier 2 guys, along with Benson, Lloyd, Wright, and Davis. Probably in the middle of that group. Where I had Brooks and Corum (who I thought was basically Irving, but better) in tier 1. 75% of the way through year 1, Irving is definitely the most impressive so far, and he's checking every box in a way VERY FEW RBs do. Breaking tackles, being explosive, and being a great receiver.
The General
Footballguy
Why is he returning kickoffs? Pretty dumb.
We need you, Bucky. Get that hip treatment.
We need you, Bucky. Get that hip treatment.
The General
Footballguy
He apparently got hurt on a kickoff return and was "laboring to walk to the locker room" at end of game. Something to watch.
Especially as that's something they could be (and were once) using Tucker for.
