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RB Cam Skattebo, NYG (3 Viewers)

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What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
I don’t think an early second gets you him, preinjury, anywhere
I can agree with that. His true value pre-injury was probably 1.08--1.12. But we're not talking pre-injury any longer and I sure as hell wouldn't give an early 2nd for him right now, knowing that is not his true value at the moment. That's just my opinion of course and wanted to know what the non-bias opinion was. You kinow, those that don't currently have Skattebo. It's pointless to ask those that roster Skattebo.

I've kind of zoned out on '26 not owning my 1st, but I understand it's unspectacular at the RB position. Who's the '26 rookie RB you're targeting 1.8-1.12 that's giving you a better outlook than what Skattebo was showing prior to the injury? KTC had him at the 1.7 in a better '25 RB class, pretty much in a tier to himself prior to the injury (now at 1.9 with more injury adjustments still to come I'm sure).
 
Never underestimate the hopium of a FF player.

Next summer: his combine speed will be improved drastically and retrospectively, he'll respect defenders and lower his head less while going out of bounds, and he'll be the undisputed #1 Giants RB for the next decade.

2-3 rookie firsts, minimum offer.
/sarcasm or partially realistic? You decide.... in August.
Reminds me of the hatium (did I just make that up?) I saw most of this year in this thread:

He's a 3rd round pick. He won't even sniff the field this season. 0 threat to Tracy.

Well of course Tracy won't handle a 100% share, Cam will get a few touches depending on game script.

Well Cam is only in because Tracy got hurt, when he gets back it's his job as the lead back.

Well he's still recovering, but at worst it will be a 50/50 split with Tracy getting all the third down work.

Well.... Cam will get a concussion sooner or later.

Lol. It certainly works both ways. Ownership bias is 100% a thing. As is take lock and doing every mental gymnastic possible to avoid ever having to consider "hmm.. maybe I was wrong".

I think part of Cam's biggest ownership bias will be less that he's ever going to be some generational talent. Hell, it would surpass my expectations to see him turn into a perennial top 12 back. But I think people like having players on their roster that are fun to watch and fun to root for. And I see that playing a factor in valuations; even if it's illogical and sometimes bad for your team overall. That balance between "I play to win every fantasy league" and "I play fantasy to have fun".
 
Never underestimate the hopium of a FF player.

Next summer: his combine speed will be improved drastically and retrospectively, he'll respect defenders and lower his head less while going out of bounds, and he'll be the undisputed #1 Giants RB for the next decade.

2-3 rookie firsts, minimum offer.
/sarcasm or partially realistic? You decide.... in August.
Reminds me of the hatium (did I just make that up?) I saw most of this year in this thread:

He's a 3rd round pick. He won't even sniff the field this season. 0 threat to Tracy.

Well of course Tracy won't handle a 100% share, Cam will get a few touches depending on game script.

Well Cam is only in because Tracy got hurt, when he gets back it's his job as the lead back.

Well he's still recovering, but at worst it will be a 50/50 split with Tracy getting all the third down work.

Well.... Cam will get a concussion sooner or later.

Lol. It certainly works both ways. Ownership bias is 100% a thing. As is take lock and doing every mental gymnastic possible to avoid ever having to consider "hmm.. maybe I was wrong".

I think part of Cam's biggest ownership bias will be less that he's ever going to be some generational talent. Hell, it would surpass my expectations to see him turn into a perennial top 12 back. But I think people like having players on their roster that are fun to watch and fun to root for. And I see that playing a factor in valuations; even if it's illogical and sometimes bad for your team overall. That balance between "I play to win every fantasy league" and "I play fantasy to have fun".

This. The social media factor on a player like Cam has been through the roof. Probably why he's not a guy I should be trying to buy right now strictly from a cold, calculated dynasty perspective.

Realistically, I think "look at that white running back go" is probably some part of it. His style is, hopefully, an ever larger factor (but no need to open a can of worms splitting hairs on the breakdown). I was definitely baking this factor into my selection of an early 4th round pick at the 2.3. However, I have still been amazed by the Cam mania that ensued, selling his talent and the social media (or whatever you want to call it) phenomenon well short of the peak levels that it achieved.
 
Never underestimate the hopium of a FF player.

Next summer: his combine speed will be improved drastically and retrospectively, he'll respect defenders and lower his head less while going out of bounds, and he'll be the undisputed #1 Giants RB for the next decade.

2-3 rookie firsts, minimum offer.
/sarcasm or partially realistic? You decide.... in August.
Reminds me of the hatium (did I just make that up?) I saw most of this year in this thread:

He's a 3rd round pick. He won't even sniff the field this season. 0 threat to Tracy.

Well of course Tracy won't handle a 100% share, Cam will get a few touches depending on game script.

Well Cam is only in because Tracy got hurt, when he gets back it's his job as the lead back.

Well he's still recovering, but at worst it will be a 50/50 split with Tracy getting all the third down work.

Well.... Cam will get a concussion sooner or later.

Lol. It certainly works both ways. Ownership bias is 100% a thing. As is take lock and doing every mental gymnastic possible to avoid ever having to consider "hmm.. maybe I was wrong".

I think part of Cam's biggest ownership bias will be less that he's ever going to be some generational talent. Hell, it would surpass my expectations to see him turn into a perennial top 12 back. But I think people like having players on their roster that are fun to watch and fun to root for. And I see that playing a factor in valuations; even if it's illogical and sometimes bad for your team overall. That balance between "I play to win every fantasy league" and "I play fantasy to have fun".

This. The social media factor on a player like Cam has been through the roof. Probably why he's not a guy I should be trying to buy right now strictly from a cold, calculated dynasty perspective.

Realistically, I think "look at that white running back go" is probably some part of it. His style is, hopefully, an ever larger factor (but no need to open a can of worms splitting hairs on the breakdown). I was definitely baking this factor into my selection of an early 4th round pick at the 2.3. However, I have still been amazed by the Cam mania that ensued, selling his talent and the social media (or whatever you want to call it) phenomenon well short of the peak levels that it achieved.
Avoiding the noise is important when buying and selling a player.
 
I think your question is valid at this point. The answer is yes surgery may not go well, but to answer your question at this point is no one would know that at this point unless it was a terrible surgeon/procedure.
That was my point - you’ll never hear the surgery didn’t go well right after the fact. If it turns out later on that a guy didn’t recover well, that’s a different story - not as if the surgeon got his online medical degree from the University of Tijuana or something.
I think Nick Riviera is working for the Jets, but overall, point taken.
 
I don't own Cam, nor am I trying to acquire him, so maybe this is the completely unbiased opinion some are looking for.

If I have him on my roster right now, and I am currently competing, then I'd probably want someone I can plug into my roster right now to keep competing as opposed to a future pick. If I'm currently in a rebuilding mode then I'm holding Cam unless someone offers me a late 1st at minimum. I'm not accepting something like a 3rd, and if Cam isn't back to what he looked like this year then so be it but I'd rather hold Cam then sell for a 2026 3rd round unknown dart throw. Maybe I'd take two 2nd's.
 
I don't own Cam, nor am I trying to acquire him, so maybe this is the completely unbiased opinion some are looking for.

If I have him on my roster right now, and I am currently competing, then I'd probably want someone I can plug into my roster right now to keep competing as opposed to a future pick. If I'm currently in a rebuilding mode then I'm holding Cam unless someone offers me a late 1st at minimum. I'm not accepting something like a 3rd, and if Cam isn't back to what he looked like this year then so be it but I'd rather hold Cam then sell for a 2026 3rd round unknown dart throw. Maybe I'd take two 2nd's.
Let's say the pick was projected 2.05? Whatcha gonna do?
 
I don't own Cam, nor am I trying to acquire him, so maybe this is the completely unbiased opinion some are looking for.

If I have him on my roster right now, and I am currently competing, then I'd probably want someone I can plug into my roster right now to keep competing as opposed to a future pick. If I'm currently in a rebuilding mode then I'm holding Cam unless someone offers me a late 1st at minimum. I'm not accepting something like a 3rd, and if Cam isn't back to what he looked like this year then so be it but I'd rather hold Cam then sell for a 2026 3rd round unknown dart throw. Maybe I'd take two 2nd's.
Let's say the pick was projected 2.05? Whatcha gonna do?
I would keep Cam.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
Lol I'll reiterate:

" Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents..."

All I can tell you is that's my opinion as someone who owns him in three separate dynasty leagues. All three I drafted him between picks 14 and 20, so early to late mid 2nd round. And that was before him earning the role he did this year obviously. As far as the injury, how it looks doesn't correlate to how it heals/what's the recovery projection when they are back healthy. Considering his injury history in college and the fact he's 23, it's not effecting my valuation on him.

You can believe I'm the aberration with that view and go out to test the waters yourself. Maybe you'll find I am 🤷‍♂️. I doubt you'll be getting him at much of a discount from current KTC/FantasyCalc numbers, which is pretty much where I am at (minus my being lower on 2026 future picks than consensus currently).
My question was what is his true trade value. Not from someone who is in love with him no matter what, but from someone who is just looking at this from a non-bias fantasy perspective. I get it, you are a Skattebo truther and doesn't care about the injury and you're sticking to your guns, but that's not the type of person I'm asking this question to. I believe if someone puts him on the block right now and wants a late 1st round pick, they are not being reasonable. I wouldn't give an early 2nd, let alone a later 1st and feel like I would be stupid to do so. I would think about a late 2nd and do a 3rd.
Sorry for too many replies in a row, scrolled down from top.

I just don’t think there’s enough upside in selling for a 3rd for that to get him anywhere, barring like, weird leagues with no IR slots. If this guy makes a full recovery he’s shown he’s an impact player and fantasy rb1. Obviously that could absolutely not be the outcome, but I have a hard time seeing someone panic selling that over potentially missing out on a 3rd rounder worth of value. I view the average third rounder as a much longer shot to have the talent to be that than his chances at recovery
Thus the issue. I wouldn't sell for a 3rd either, but I wouldn't buy for an early 2nd. Perhaps his value right now is in the 2.06 - 2.08 range?
Obviously there’s a range to any players valuation; I think a mid-2nd is within it but probably on the low end of it. I wouldn’t take that and would pay it fwiw, on a team where I was okay with the possibility of his contributions not coming til 2027
 
Nobody is selling this guy for a 2
Yeah, even if it’s a 15% chance he returns to form, if I had shares I’d hold onto them for that chance before I took a 2nd for him.

That said, it’s a gnarly injury & while a lot of FF folks / FF docs, etc have put time-frames on it, those are general sentiments for average healing time. But the nature of this injury can vary wildly with specific instances. Alex Smith’s leg was ravaged, for example.

Cam is getting IV antibiotics and now it’s all wait and see. I’m hoping for a full and speedy recovery, but that’s hardly a guarantee. But yeah, I’d rather retire him on my roster than sell for less than a 1st, if I had him.
 
I'd consider a 2nd for Skat, but only while it's on the clock and only if someone I like a lot is on the board. No way I take an unknown 2nd.

The other advantage of that is we might know more about his prognosis by then.
 
I hope this isn't one of those situations where the guy comes back next year but isn't nearly what he was this year, and only regains his full physical ability the following year.
Several of the FF docs who’ve opined on this said they expect exactly that.

But the caveat is that might be the best case scenario. There are worse possible outcomes. Not being Debbie downer, just saying.
 
Several of the FF docs who’ve opined on this said they expect exactly that.

But the caveat is that might be the best case scenario. There are worse possible outcomes. Not being Debbie downer, just saying.
Yeah, I understand you're not wishing him ill, and you're not predicting doom. But he could end up being unable to play again. I hope not.
 
Per X:
Ian Rapoport

Giants RB Cam Skattebo, who was placed on IR yesterday, suffered not only a dislocated ankle, but also a fibula fracture and deltoid ligament rupture, sources say.
That sounds just ugly. I hope this isn't one of those situations where the guy comes back next year but isn't nearly what he was this year, and only regains his full physical ability the following year.
Yeah kinda with you and HSG, mostly bc it's already the end of October. If he does "return to form" next year I'd expect it to be well into the season; likely on the later side. Yet another reason even as a Skatt owner, I'm glad they have another solid back in Tracy so as to not feel that pressure.

Really hope if Daboll is still the coach he chills out a little back and doesn't allow Cam to rush himself back, as he seems to have that character/personality to push himself too hard too fast to his own detriment. It's only a positive trait when you have a coach who can temper that behavior and find the happy medium between motivation and sensibility. When Daboll was leaving the sideline to go into the blue tent trying to get Dart back on the field himself while Dart was going through concussion protocol wasn't a great a look IMO. Desperate people tend to make bad decisions, and often selfish ones.
 
Per X:
Ian Rapoport

Giants RB Cam Skattebo, who was placed on IR yesterday, suffered not only a dislocated ankle, but also a fibula fracture and deltoid ligament rupture, sources say.
That sounds just ugly. I hope this isn't one of those situations where the guy comes back next year but isn't nearly what he was this year, and only regains his full physical ability the following year.
Yeah kinda with you and HSG, mostly bc it's already the end of October. If he does "return to form" next year I'd expect it to be well into the season; likely on the later side. Yet another reason even as a Skatt owner, I'm glad they have another solid back in Tracy so as to not feel that pressure.

Really hope if Daboll is still the coach he chills out a little back and doesn't allow Cam to rush himself back, as he seems to have that character/personality to push himself too hard too fast to his own detriment. It's only a positive trait when you have a coach who can temper that behavior and find the happy medium between motivation and sensibility. When Daboll was leaving the sideline to go into the blue tent trying to get Dart back on the field himself while Dart was going through concussion protocol wasn't a great a look IMO. Desperate people tend to make bad decisions, and often selfish ones.
Agreed. Daboll is coming off as extremely desperate. Between trying to intervene in a medical tent and throwing his ridiculous tantrums on the sidelines. I said he reminds me of the toddler in the toy store throwing a hissy fit when he doesn't get the toy he wanted. Not a good look for a grown man that is supposed to be a leader of others. IF Daboll is the coach next year, I could see him pressuring Cam back too soon...like with trying to get Dart back in the game too soon (allegedly). He doesn't seem like one thinking long term...he's thinking right now.
 
Per X:
Ian Rapoport

Giants RB Cam Skattebo, who was placed on IR yesterday, suffered not only a dislocated ankle, but also a fibula fracture and deltoid ligament rupture, sources say.
That sounds just ugly. I hope this isn't one of those situations where the guy comes back next year but isn't nearly what he was this year, and only regains his full physical ability the following year.
Yeah kinda with you and HSG, mostly bc it's already the end of October. If he does "return to form" next year I'd expect it to be well into the season; likely on the later side. Yet another reason even as a Skatt owner, I'm glad they have another solid back in Tracy so as to not feel that pressure.

Really hope if Daboll is still the coach he chills out a little back and doesn't allow Cam to rush himself back, as he seems to have that character/personality to push himself too hard too fast to his own detriment. It's only a positive trait when you have a coach who can temper that behavior and find the happy medium between motivation and sensibility. When Daboll was leaving the sideline to go into the blue tent trying to get Dart back on the field himself while Dart was going through concussion protocol wasn't a great a look IMO. Desperate people tend to make bad decisions, and often selfish ones.
Agreed. Daboll is coming off as extremely desperate. Between trying to intervene in a medical tent and throwing his ridiculous tantrums on the sidelines. I said he reminds me of the toddler in the toy store throwing a hissy fit when he doesn't get the toy he wanted. Not a good look for a grown man that is supposed to be a leader of others. IF Daboll is the coach next year, I could see him pressuring Cam back too soon...like with trying to get Dart back in the game too soon (allegedly). He doesn't seem like one thinking long term...he's thinking right now.

Well he IS extremely desparate, to be fair.

I think he's feeling the very real desparation of finally having a good core group (Dart, Nabers, Skattebo) and a team with a bright future, only to see 2/3's of them hurt and worry that he's going to get canned right when the team was on the verge of turning things around, while the next coach in line benefits from that bright future.
 
I pulled off one of the rarest of feats. A redraft trade in one of my big home leagues. There's usually maybe one or two completed trades per season and I usually involved in one of them.

It is the auction league I've talked about elsewhere and we get one keeper each season for +5 their price from the previous draft (or waiver FAAB cost). I drafted Skattebo for 7 (200 budget) and even though he is lost for the season he still has some degree of keeper appeal at 12 if someone wanted to trade for him and take the risk that he does/doesn't recover for 2026. They can make that trade without being locked into it, too - we don't choose our keeper until the day before the August draft.

I need a WR this week (and don't mind the depth going forward) and so I traded Skattebo (and Tez Johnson throw in) to the last place team for Keenan Allen. LAC WR corps/target order is a little wonky right now but the waiver wire sucks and I'll take this last little value out of Skattebo and let it ride. (I have Egbuka and G Wilson on bye and JSN slotted in at WR1 at the moment)

Otherwise it was a pretty big gut punch to see how many shares of Skattebo I had in redraft. Lots of drops last night. And I certainly hope he recovers well hate to see this stuff.
 
Per X:
Ian Rapoport

Giants RB Cam Skattebo, who was placed on IR yesterday, suffered not only a dislocated ankle, but also a fibula fracture and deltoid ligament rupture, sources say.
That sounds just ugly. I hope this isn't one of those situations where the guy comes back next year but isn't nearly what he was this year, and only regains his full physical ability the following year.
Yeah kinda with you and HSG, mostly bc it's already the end of October. If he does "return to form" next year I'd expect it to be well into the season; likely on the later side. Yet another reason even as a Skatt owner, I'm glad they have another solid back in Tracy so as to not feel that pressure.

Really hope if Daboll is still the coach he chills out a little back and doesn't allow Cam to rush himself back, as he seems to have that character/personality to push himself too hard too fast to his own detriment. It's only a positive trait when you have a coach who can temper that behavior and find the happy medium between motivation and sensibility. When Daboll was leaving the sideline to go into the blue tent trying to get Dart back on the field himself while Dart was going through concussion protocol wasn't a great a look IMO. Desperate people tend to make bad decisions, and often selfish ones.
Agreed. Daboll is coming off as extremely desperate. Between trying to intervene in a medical tent and throwing his ridiculous tantrums on the sidelines. I said he reminds me of the toddler in the toy store throwing a hissy fit when he doesn't get the toy he wanted. Not a good look for a grown man that is supposed to be a leader of others. IF Daboll is the coach next year, I could see him pressuring Cam back too soon...like with trying to get Dart back in the game too soon (allegedly). He doesn't seem like one thinking long term...he's thinking right now.
This is how I felt watching it live but his explanation in the postgame interviews did actually track for me (he said he was trying to figure out if the evaluation timeline was close enough to be worth potentially worth calling a timeout over for a critical play…which I can understand, though I agree it wasn’t a good look)
 
I'll refrain from bartering value (I did partake but re-read it and it's unnecessary to even comment—I was dispassionate and cool, but this made me wince a lot) and this does not sound good in the least. I think it's wildly optimistic to expect anything, guys.

"Cam Skattebo, RB, New York Giants (right ankle): Skattebo's right leg got twisted underneath him (and an Eagles defender) as he was tackled in the second quarter and, in what has become an all too familiar sight this year among player injuries, his foot ended up pointing the wrong direction. The medical staff immediately placed him in an air splint and carted him off the field. The Giants later reported that Skattebo had suffered a right ankle dislocation and had been transported to a hospital in Philadelphia where he underwent surgery Sunday night. According to ESPN's Jordan Raanan, sources say it was an open dislocation and Skattebo is doing well despite the circumstances of an emergency situation.

With more severe ankle injuries, it is not uncommon to suffer a fracture of one or both of the lower leg bones simultaneously. If bone breaks through the skin, the injury -- termed an open dislocation -- immediately becomes more complex due to risk of infection. In addition to fixing the fracture and other urgent soft tissue repairs, the wound is cleaned out to minimize infection risk.

Skattebo's rookie season will come to an unfortunate early conclusion as a result of this injury, but a timeline should become more clear as details of the surgery emerge."

 

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