RB Cam Skattebo, NYG (1 Viewer)

[Riffraff]

{sarcasm for all}
FF ekspurts using the same draft capital logic for automatic new backfield leadership:

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

BEFORE lil bro ETN2 (Chuba/Dowdle/Brooks are all in danger!)
BEFORE Marks (it's all over for Mixon, sorry bud!)
BEFORE Hunter (but but but - Kyren already lost his job to Corum per many last year!)
BEFORE Sampson (man, Judkins already lost his job and didn't even get to play an NFL down!)

Quite the peer group.
I know it's rookie fever time and all veterans are on their last legs versus day 3 picks, but let's not get too carried away folks.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

{sarcasm for all}
FF ekspurts using the same draft capital logic for automatic new backfield leadership:

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

BEFORE lil bro ETN2 (Chuba/Dowdle/Brooks are all in danger!)
BEFORE Marks (it's all over for Mixon, sorry bud!)
BEFORE Hunter (but but but - Kyren already lost his job to Corum per many last year!)
BEFORE Sampson (man, Judkins already lost his job and didn't even get to play an NFL down!)

Quite the peer group.
I know it's rookie fever time and all veterans are on their last legs versus day 3 picks, but let's not get too carried away folks.

I believe the Cam Skatt vs Tyrone Tracey talent competition is going to shake out in favor of Cam- eventually. I believe there's a character concern there so it's difficult to know how that would impact his development and team's trust in him.

I don't think that the same dynamic exists in the other backfields you mention. My opinion of the pecking order of talent favors the incumbents. But in a couple of cases, I do think that specific roles envisioned could prove limiting to the overall workload of the starter. If Sampson proves to be a good NFL player, he's going to siphon off some of the more space-back work that Judkins might be competent with, capping his PPR upside.

Tyrone Tracey was one of the lowest pff rated backs in the NFL last year (45th out of 47 half backs rated by PFF). Not that PFF is the be-all, end all.

 

[eighsse2]

{sarcasm for all}
FF ekspurts using the same draft capital logic for automatic new backfield leadership:

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

BEFORE lil bro ETN2 (Chuba/Dowdle/Brooks are all in danger!)
BEFORE Marks (it's all over for Mixon, sorry bud!)
BEFORE Hunter (but but but - Kyren already lost his job to Corum per many last year!)
BEFORE Sampson (man, Judkins already lost his job and didn't even get to play an NFL down!)

Quite the peer group.
I know it's rookie fever time and all veterans are on their last legs versus day 3 picks, but let's not get too carried away folks.

Who are Marks and Hunter?

ETA: I see now. Never even heard of them, didn't even notice when they got drafted.

 

[Ilov80s]

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

I don’t think it’s ever logical to say a 4th round pick is definitely taking the job of a player who has been successful. This is likely the last years for ETN in Jacksonville though.

 

[Riffraff]

Who are Marks and Hunter?

ETA: I see now. Never even heard of them, didn't even notice when they got drafted.

Exactly - those guys are Skattebo's draft peers in capital and compensation. A lot of "who's that?"
Day 3 guys, but someone might surface and not be the one people expect.

 

[barackdhouse]

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

I don’t think it’s ever logical to say a 4th round pick is definitely taking the job of a player who has been successful. This is likely the last years for ETN in Jacksonville though.

Tank Bigsby got more carries than ETN last year. In my opinion ETN has already been fading away.

 

[Ilov80s]

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

I don’t think it’s ever logical to say a 4th round pick is definitely taking the job of a player who has been successful. This is likely the last years for ETN in Jacksonville though.

Tank Bigsby got more carries than ETN last year. In my opinion ETN has already been fading away.

Last year was definitely a change in role and major decline in effectiveness for ETN. The year before was a career season from him. So while it does look like's nearing the end of the road, it's still a lot to ask a 4th rounder to replace him year one.

 

[need2know]

Out of the league in 3 years

 

[Penguin]

Skattebo was taken
AFTER Tuten (ETN just lost his job, right?)

I don’t think it’s ever logical to say a 4th round pick is definitely taking the job of a player who has been successful. This is likely the last years for ETN in Jacksonville though.

Tank Bigsby got more carries than ETN last year. In my opinion ETN has already been fading away.

Etienne is owed $6,143,000 guaranteed this year but is a UFA next year and will be 27, so he's likely gone. Looks like Bigsby/Tuten in 2026

If Tuten can solve the fumbling issues I can see him as more valuable in PPR leagues over Bigsby.

 

[Faust]

Cam Skattebo Fantasy Outlook: Instant Reaction

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
RD 4 | PK 105 - Giants: Cam Skattebo RB, Arizona State

The Sun Devils' do-it-all back earned the second-highest NGS overall draft score (88) among running backs in the 2025 class, trailing only Ashton Jeanty.

A two-year starter after transferring from Sacramento State, Skattebo served as the engine of Arizona State's offense in 2024, racking up over 2,300 scrimmage yards and 24 total touchdowns, both marks leading the Big 12. His production score of 93 ranked second among all running backs in the NGS model.

Though he skipped the 40-yard dash in Indianapolis, Skattebo flashed explosive lower-body traits with a 39.5-inch vertical and consistently showed burst and contact balance on tape.

Skattebo was @NextGenStats' No. 1 ranked Day 3 hidden gem entering this year's draft, and the top player available by the NGS draft score when the @Giants turned in their card.

https://x.com/nextgenstats/status/1916165579272294591?s=61

 

[pinkstapler]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

I'm in twice now at 1.12 and 2.1 on the Skat back.

 

[pinkstapler]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

I'm in twice now at 1.12 and 2.1 on the Skat back.

I traded a future 2nd and a 4th to get the 1.12 and take him as well! No regerts

 

[socrates]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

If Cam had gone to the Giants on Day 2, we would all be ecstatic. The only thing really holding us back is his draft capital. I feel like the depth of that tier of runners in this class allowed NFL teams to delay drafting a RB some. Even so, I would feel a whole lot better about Skattebo if he had gone Day 2. As it is, I worry that even if he does overtake Tyrone Tracy, he could just be a placeholder until the next guy comes along. I was pretty stoked about this RB class, but other than RJ Harvey (and perhaps Jarquez Hunter), no runner went especially higher in the Draft than I expected. Sampson (Rd. 4), Skattebo (Rd. 4), Giddens (Rd. 5), Neal (Rd. 6), Martinez (Rd. 7), and Brashard (Rd. 7), all have disappointing Draft Capital. This sure puts a damper on the RB class.

 

[Terpman22]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

If Cam had gone to the Giants on Day 2, we would all be ecstatic. The only thing really holding us back is his draft capital. I feel like the depth of that tier of runners in this class allowed NFL teams to delay drafting a RB some. Even so, I would feel a whole lot better about Skattebo if he had gone Day 2. As it is, I worry that even if he does overtake Tyrone Tracy, he could just be a placeholder until the next guy comes along. I was pretty stoked about this RB class, but other than RJ Harvey (and perhaps Jarquez Hunter), no runner went especially higher in the Draft than I expected. Sampson (Rd. 4), Skattebo (Rd. 4), Giddens (Rd. 5), Neal (Rd. 6), Martinez (Rd. 7), and Brashard (Rd. 7), all have disappointing Draft Capital. This sure puts a damper on the RB class.

Last pick of round 3 was 102.
Cam was drafted 105.

Change in emotion to "ecstatic" over a 3 pick difference here? I heard a few takes on podcasts having this same convo just curious how big of a deal this is to you.

Me - not much.

 

[pinkstapler]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

If Cam had gone to the Giants on Day 2, we would all be ecstatic. The only thing really holding us back is his draft capital. I feel like the depth of that tier of runners in this class allowed NFL teams to delay drafting a RB some. Even so, I would feel a whole lot better about Skattebo if he had gone Day 2. As it is, I worry that even if he does overtake Tyrone Tracy, he could just be a placeholder until the next guy comes along. I was pretty stoked about this RB class, but other than RJ Harvey (and perhaps Jarquez Hunter), no runner went especially higher in the Draft than I expected. Sampson (Rd. 4), Skattebo (Rd. 4), Giddens (Rd. 5), Neal (Rd. 6), Martinez (Rd. 7), and Brashard (Rd. 7), all have disappointing Draft Capital. This sure puts a damper on the RB class.

Yeah, and tbh, I think if the Giants hadn't traded their 3rd rounder earlier to move back into the 1st I bet they would have used that to take Cam. And suddenly he'd have at least been in the Harvey/Kaleb debate to go between 1.08-1.12.

I'll still stay firmly seated on my 25 RB class hype train though haha. My 8-10 of them going in the first 3 rounds prediction was obviously off and I'll definitely admit I was wrong there. But I do think 2 in the first 3 picks of the 4th, and 5 in the first 15 of the 4th is an indicator. And some of them had some great landing spots. I do think we see more than one or two of these day 3 drafted backs wind up hitting. It might take a year to establish a foothold but between Skattebo, Tuten, Jadon Blue, Giddens, Neal, Brashard Smith, Woody Marks, Jarquez Hunter, and Tahj Brooks.... I don't think I'd be surprised to see any of these guys win a starting/prominent role over the next three years and find their way into our starting fantasy lineups. Even if it's only for a season or two, not a bad value proposition considering most of them you're getting in the third round of rookie drafts, or picking them up off waivers.

 

[travdogg]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

I'm in twice now at 1.12 and 2.1 on the Skat back.

I've got him 1.8. Tyrone Tracy is JAG, and they liked him over Singletary, so he's no threat either.

 

[menobrown]

I could have taken him at 1.11 and 1.12 in two leagues I have Tracy , and one of them needs a RB, and passed. Do believe Giants will want a tandem backfield but I'd rather have Tracy. Just never been big on Skatteboo or think his style will hold up for long.

 

[ffmail4me]

I could have taken him at 1.11 and 1.12 in two leagues I have Tracy , and one of them needs a RB, and passed. Do believe Giants will want a tandem backfield but I'd rather have Tracy. Just never been big on Skatteboo or think his style will hold up for long.

That style worked very well for John Riggins, who played 15 years in the league. Now granted, its incredibly rare for a RB to play that long, especially one who ran people over the Riggins did (and the way Skatteboo does) but I'm cheering for him to be Riggins 2.0

 

[menobrown]

I could have taken him at 1.11 and 1.12 in two leagues I have Tracy , and one of them needs a RB, and passed. Do believe Giants will want a tandem backfield but I'd rather have Tracy. Just never been big on Skatteboo or think his style will hold up for long.

That style worked very well for John Riggins, who played 15 years in the league. Now granted, its incredibly rare for a RB to play that long, especially one who ran people over the Riggins did (and the way Skatteboo does) but I'm cheering for him to be Riggins 2.0

Yeah but that was a whole other era when the average size of DL was in the 250's and now it's about 310 and just way more jacked up in general.

 

[socrates]

I care about his 40 time in how it effects his draft stock; so I won't bother debating combine vs. pro day times because both sides make compelling, sound arguments.

If Cam gets drafted day 2, I'll be targeting him between rookie picks ~10-16 depending on landing spot and when exactly he goes day 2. I still see an MJD/slower CMC as a ceiling, and in a PPR league that's something I'll always move ahead of RBs who can't catch/only catch dump offs. Other than lacking "speed", the most common criticism I hear on him is "he's hard to project/there aren't other guys used like him in the NFL outside D. Henry". That's an incredibly weak criticism to me, and doesn't really move my needle at all.

If he goes day 3 or later, he'll definitely be dropping down about a round+ for me. In general, the hit rates on RBs drafted in the 4th round and later are just abysmal, as much as I love Cam, at that point I do believe the odds will be stacked against him becoming a fantasy contributor worthy of a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

TLDR, gonna let the NFL do the work for me on this one. But if he does get day 2 capital, I'm remaining high on a 3 down, pass catching, goal line punching, unreal contact balance, top of the class tackle breaking ability, unlimited effort/coaches favorite guy. Those are some of the most important RB check boxes for me, and he ticks them all. It also just gives him multiple ways of paying the bills in fantasy. Even in a committee he could easily be the David Montgomery putting in 12+ TDs with his 78% success rate on 3rd and short plays, 94.1 PFF grade on plays 3 yards or less (top in the class over the past two years), 23 TDs (also top in the class). It would still get you a low end RB1 in fantasy, despite a team being dumb and not taking advantage of his pass catching skills which are also at the top of this class.

Whelp, turns out I lied as to the bolded. He'll wind up my flag plant guy. Coming from the poster who's always quick to point out hit rates on round 4 RBs, I will go down in flames on Skattebo. If he's there at 2.05/6 and I don't have a pick there, I'll be trading up to take him. And should he not start putting up good games by the end of 2025, and be announced the starter come 2026; I will place all the blame on the Giants organization, all other evidence be damned lol.

If Cam had gone to the Giants on Day 2, we would all be ecstatic. The only thing really holding us back is his draft capital. I feel like the depth of that tier of runners in this class allowed NFL teams to delay drafting a RB some. Even so, I would feel a whole lot better about Skattebo if he had gone Day 2. As it is, I worry that even if he does overtake Tyrone Tracy, he could just be a placeholder until the next guy comes along. I was pretty stoked about this RB class, but other than RJ Harvey (and perhaps Jarquez Hunter), no runner went especially higher in the Draft than I expected. Sampson (Rd. 4), Skattebo (Rd. 4), Giddens (Rd. 5), Neal (Rd. 6), Martinez (Rd. 7), and Brashard (Rd. 7), all have disappointing Draft Capital. This sure puts a damper on the RB class.

Last pick of round 3 was 102.
Cam was drafted 105.

Change in emotion to "ecstatic" over a 3 pick difference here? I heard a few takes on podcasts having this same convo just curious how big of a deal this is to you.

Me - not much.

I get what you are saying, but I would absolutely feel better if the Giants had selected Cam in Round 3. (Note: The difference between the Giants' Round 3 pick and Round 4 Pick was 40 picks.)

Would I be ecstatic if the Giants had traded up from 105 to 102 just to get Cam the Day 2 Draft Capital? To your point, not so much.

Tyrone Tracy is not an insurmountable road block, although he may be more talented than some believe. My biggest concern, however, is whether Cam is the long-term answer for the Giants at RB.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

One of eight rookie RBs currently set to enter the season as the most valued dynasty RB on their team (#8 is an interesting one). He'll be in demand. As good of an option as any other RB prospect you'll see at the 1/2 turn. Certainly, there's a world where he's a roster clogger by this time next year, but there's also one where he's top 15.

 

[SHH]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

 

[SHH]

2024 Giants

Total TD = 30 (Tied 31st)
Total Passing = 3521 (29th)
Total Rushing = 1783 (23rd)


I just don't see the upside this guy is going to bring to an anemic offense like this. I understand that things could look way differently in 2025, but counting on a rookie RB in a previously bad offense run by a Rookie QB does not appear to be the winning formula. We're talking about an offense that in 2023 Saquan Barkley was only able to plod himself to a 3.9 YPC.

2023 Saquan Barkley: 247 rushes / 962 yards / 6 TD & 41 receptions / 280 yards / 4 TD


RB amongst most positions are potentially the most reliant on the offense around them. As evidenced as Saquan going from 3.9 YPC to a 5.8 YPC last year. From 88.71 YFS to 142.68 YFS.

 

[socrates]

2024 Giants

Total TD = 30 (Tied 31st)
Total Passing = 3521 (29th)
Total Rushing = 1783 (23rd)


I just don't see the upside this guy is going to bring to an anemic offense like this. I understand that things could look way differently in 2025, but counting on a rookie RB in a previously bad offense run by a Rookie QB does not appear to be the winning formula. We're talking about an offense that in 2023 Saquan Barkley was only able to plod himself to a 3.9 YPC.

2023 Saquan Barkley: 247 rushes / 962 yards / 6 TD & 41 receptions / 280 yards / 4 TD


RB amongst most positions are potentially the most reliant on the offense around them. As evidenced as Saquan going from 3.9 YPC to a 5.8 YPC last year. From 88.71 YFS to 142.68 YFS.

Hmmmm..... Those 2023 stats make me feel a bit stronger about Tyrone Tracy's 2024 season:

2023 Saquan Barkley: 247 rushes / 962 yards (3.9 ypc) / 6 TD // 41 receptions / 280 yards / 4 TD
2024 Tyrone Tracy: 192 rushes / 839 yards (4.4 ypc) / 5 TD // 38 receptions / 284 yards / 1 TD

Obviously, Tracy is not comparable to Barkley, so I am not sure what to make of these stats.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

 

[menobrown]

I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0

Maybe we are both subconsciously guilty of scouting the melanin but I settled on a comp as a shorter bad pass blocking Peyton Hillis. Who btw also drew John Riggins comps and he did have one amazing season.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Marion Barber is the comp for me

 

[pinkstapler]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

This is what I'm on for his real fantasy value. He's one of the best receiving backs in this class, and the only one's I'd say are better are more receiving only backs like Brashard Smith. Meanwhile Cam doesn't have to come off the field. Not to say Tracey won't get a solid share of the backfield; but just that Cam isn't a back who needs to come off the field under certain game situations. And considering the team doesn't have much receiving talent aside from Nabors, I think he could see some solid usage there.

I'll preface again with I'm not an expert or even close to one and I could be wildly wrong; but I had Cam as one of the best backs in this class predraft. I felt he was in the Judkins/Henderson tier and above Kaleb Johnson and the rest of them. IMO his film showed that, and the metrics associated with him can't really be debated. I wasn't on an island with this stance either, PFF had him ranked as #3 as well. And while I obviously moved him in my post-draft ranks due to draft capital, it doesn't really change who I see him as a player or his talent level. And that is a level that will blow Tracey out of the water if given the opportunity. Will he get that chance? Maybe not. He will need to continue improving aspects of his game. But when rolling the intangibles into his profile, his work ethic and drive are things I have little to no questions about.

I'm not trying to dismiss concerns about the Giants poor offense, a guy in Tracey who is coming off an excellent year standing in his way for touches, or draft capital which has definitive historical significance relative to predicting fantasy outcomes. But at the same time, those are all things completely outside his control. It's not like his red flags are off the field issues, bad hands, and looks like tarzan/plays like jane. Really the only so called red flag I've seen consistently is "his style of play won't translate". Now that concern, I can dismiss. I turn on the Peach Bowl and watch him bring his team back from 24-8 deficit in the 4th quarter, to an eventual defeat in double OT where he put the team on his back and had 143yds 2TDs on 30 attempts (4.77ypc), 8 receptions for 99 yards (led the team as a RB), and even threw a 42 yard passing TD. This was against a 12-2 SEC Texas team too. Not surprisingly he won the MVP of that game, first time in 26 years it went to a member of the losing team. If a coach/team can't find a way to make that translate, that's on them IMO.

So I'm having an incredibly easy time with him because to me it's just betting on the talent winning out. And he's the exact kind of player I'd rather take and be wrong on 9 times out of 10, then go against every stat I read and game I watched that told me he's a superstar and not take him because..... Tyrone Tracey? The Giants stink? "He can't play like that in the NFL"? Nah... happy to take my chances on him if those are the only supposed road blocks.

 

[warpig33]

I don't understand the deal about draft capital. Tracy was a 5th round pick. Cam was a 4th. So if you want to look at that for the argument, Cam will be given more opps than Tracy. Doesn't hold water. They are different styles of backs. I could see Cam as the hammer with Tracy being the gimmick player. Or a lot of rotation. Or both of them on the field together (with Tracy playing a lot of slot?). I could see it working and maybe the Giants slowing down the game and muddying it up.

 

[Faust]

Stats That Define Giants RB Cam Skattebo’s Game

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't understand the deal about draft capital. Tracy was a 5th round pick. Cam was a 4th. So if you want to look at that for the argument, Cam will be given more opps than Tracy. Doesn't hold water. They are different styles of backs. I could see Cam as the hammer with Tracy being the gimmick player. Or a lot of rotation. Or both of them on the field together (with Tracy playing a lot of slot?). I could see it working and maybe the Giants slowing down the game and muddying it up.

And either RB might have the higher point total week to week and that doesn't always mean a big number.
I can see box scores that read Sakttebo 14/50 and Tracy gets 8-10 carries plus 3 catches, and ends up with 60 total yds and the Giants lose 28-20, none of their TDs via the ground
The next week Tracy totals almost 100 yds and hits double digits in PPR, Cam gets 50-60 on the ground
Following week Skattebo has 80 yds and a TD, Tracy totals 40-50 yds and just a couple catches.

It might be hard to pin your hopes or start either of them in your line up on a weekly basis
I'm painting a somewhat bleak outlook so forgive me but I wanted to play out possible outcomes for a team not many of us are expecting big things from.
Giants didn't part with their 1st round pick in '26 to take Dart...and he sits behind Russ for a decent chunk if not all of 2025.
If the Giants are picking Top 5 next year in a much deeper QB class than we saw this year, it's possible we never see Dart
Or they want to play Dart the entire 2nd Half of the year to see what they have and that could also mean a lot of losses for the Giants and less touches for the RBs when they trail.

 

[barackdhouse]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

 

[squistion]

I don't understand the deal about draft capital. Tracy was a 5th round pick. Cam was a 4th. So if you want to look at that for the argument, Cam will be given more opps than Tracy. Doesn't hold water. They are different styles of backs. I could see Cam as the hammer with Tracy being the gimmick player. Or a lot of rotation. Or both of them on the field together (with Tracy playing a lot of slot?). I could see it working and maybe the Giants slowing down the game and muddying it up.

I never have. It has its value but is an overrated reference point IMO.

Yes, draft capital gives you a statistical probability of success in the NFL but is pretty meaningless when looking at any individual player. There was a poster here (who won't be named) who held himself out for years as a rookie draft expert, but stated that he let the NFL sort the draft for him and arbitrarily ruled out any player from consideration that was taken on Day 3 (still SMH that people took him seriously).

 

[Terpman22]

I feel pretty good about his long term potential. Methinks the Giants will have at least an OK offense next year

I don't understand the deal about draft capital. Tracy was a 5th round pick. Cam was a 4th. So if you want to look at that for the argument, Cam will be given more opps than Tracy. Doesn't hold water. They are different styles of backs. I could see Cam as the hammer with Tracy being the gimmick player. Or a lot of rotation. Or both of them on the field together (with Tracy playing a lot of slot?). I could see it working and maybe the Giants slowing down the game and muddying it up.

I never have. It has its value but is an overrated reference point IMO.

Yes, draft capital gives you a statistical probability of success in the NFL but is pretty meaningless when looking at any individual player. There was a poster here (who won't be named) who held himself out for years as a rookie draft expert, but stated that he let the NFL sort the draft for him and arbitrarily ruled out any player from consideration that was taken on Day 3 (still SMH that people took him seriously).

I think draft capital more means "likelihood of team wanting player to suceed" meaning moreso that a team will "want to see a return on their investment" on a higher pick. At some point, I don't think the draft picks count as much as an investment as more a lotto ticket. Sliding scales for both ways and its different for each team.

Say a guy like Teslaa or whatever on the Lions. Sure seemed like a reach to me/most people. But the investment in it all sure seems like the Lions are truly going to try at least give this guy a shot or not.

Now he might flame out, but opportunity is a big big deal in the NFL.

 

[JohnnyU]

I don't understand the deal about draft capital. Tracy was a 5th round pick. Cam was a 4th. So if you want to look at that for the argument, Cam will be given more opps than Tracy. Doesn't hold water. They are different styles of backs. I could see Cam as the hammer with Tracy being the gimmick player. Or a lot of rotation. Or both of them on the field together (with Tracy playing a lot of slot?). I could see it working and maybe the Giants slowing down the game and muddying it up.

I never have. It has its value but is an overrated reference point IMO.

Yes, draft capital gives you a statistical probability of success in the NFL but is pretty meaningless when looking at any individual player. There was a poster here (who won't be named) who held himself out for years as a rookie draft expert, but stated that he let the NFL sort the draft for him and arbitrarily ruled out any player from consideration that was taken on Day 3 (still SMH that people took him seriously).

The way I think about draft capital is opportunity over someone taken later, but as we all know that isn't always the case. This can include how long of leash they are given, because it's easier to cast aside due to not having a lot invested in them. Push come to shove teams want players with a higher draft capital to play more than don't.

 

[heckmanm]

Picked by the NY Giants in the 4th round, overall pick no 104

I see him being the lead back with Tracy being the 1B. Thoughts?

Thunder / Lightning

Scatteboo, Scatteboo
Will you do the Fandango?
Thunderbolt and lightning
Very, very frightening.

Ezeudu! (Ezeudu!)
Ezeudu! (Ezeudu!)
Ezeudu-Thibodeaux

(Where's an "Adebayo" when you need one?)

 

[Mojo56]

I'm a huge Skat fanboi. I think the main reason he fell to the 4th round was his 4.65 'unofficial' 40. I watched Skat a lot. He has what I call 'game speed'. He isn't going to break into the secondary and outrun DB's to the EZ but for short bursts he is plenty quick and tackling him is often an exercise in futility. He reminds me of the "Human Bowling Ball", Don Nottingham (17th round pick!) with a much higher upside. "He runs so low to the ground that the only way to bring him down is to hit him low--around the neck". When you factor in his pass catching ability I really think Skat has a chance to be an RB1 at some point but it might take a few years given the state of the Giant O.

As for the comparison to John Riggins...eh, no. Riggins had sprinter speed for starters. In addition, Big John was as big as the LB's trying to tackle him. Skat will face a whole different environment and durability will be an issue but isn't it an issue for pretty much every NFL back?

 

[SHH]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

Not to be a wet blanket, but Tyrone Tracy actually played Wide Receiver in college. Which I'm sure most of you already know.

I just don't know that Skattebo is a better or worse pass catcher than Tracy, but objectively speaking I would say that pass catching is actually one of Tracy's strengths as a RB.


I'm not even making the argument that one guy is better than the other, based on their skillset that probably depends on the personnel of the defense. I know he'll be there on the goal line, but I have reservations that he'll be sending Tracy to the sidelines on 3rd downs.

More likely we see the hammer in there on early downs and then Tracy gets to come in for the 3rd down dump off / draw, imo. But would I be surprised to see a 4th Rounder usurp the 5th Rounder? Of course not.

 

[barackdhouse]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

Not to be a wet blanket, but Tyrone Tracy actually played Wide Receiver in college. Which I'm sure most of you already know.

I just don't know that Skattebo is a better or worse pass catcher than Tracy, but objectively speaking I would say that pass catching is actually one of Tracy's strengths as a RB.


I'm not even making the argument that one guy is better than the other, based on their skillset that probably depends on the personnel of the defense. I know he'll be there on the goal line, but I have reservations that he'll be sending Tracy to the sidelines on 3rd downs.

More likely we see the hammer in there on early downs and then Tracy gets to come in for the 3rd down dump off / draw, imo. But would I be surprised to see a 4th Rounder usurp the 5th Rounder? Of course not.

Tracy largely earned his role because of his explosiveness and playmaking in the receiving game. Whatever it was he had shown last preseason, by week 1 he was being used. He got targeted on a designed wheel route and he was wide open at the goal line for a would-be 30 yard TD but QB missed him by a few inches. He has lots of playmaking ability and that's why I felt like he would still be the 3rd down guy. But admittedly Skattebo seems more than capable in that department as well.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

Not to be a wet blanket, but Tyrone Tracy actually played Wide Receiver in college. Which I'm sure most of you already know.

I just don't know that Skattebo is a better or worse pass catcher than Tracy, but objectively speaking I would say that pass catching is actually one of Tracy's strengths as a RB.


I'm not even making the argument that one guy is better than the other, based on their skillset that probably depends on the personnel of the defense. I know he'll be there on the goal line, but I have reservations that he'll be sending Tracy to the sidelines on 3rd downs.

More likely we see the hammer in there on early downs and then Tracy gets to come in for the 3rd down dump off / draw, imo. But would I be surprised to see a 4th Rounder usurp the 5th Rounder? Of course not.

Tracy is a good receiver as well, though it does seem people (not just Barack, it's a common misconception!) are overlooking Cam's receiving prowess as well, and thinking his upside is as a 2-down banger.

Cam was 1st in all of D1 college football last year in yards per route run among RBs.

 

[barackdhouse]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

Not to be a wet blanket, but Tyrone Tracy actually played Wide Receiver in college. Which I'm sure most of you already know.

I just don't know that Skattebo is a better or worse pass catcher than Tracy, but objectively speaking I would say that pass catching is actually one of Tracy's strengths as a RB.


I'm not even making the argument that one guy is better than the other, based on their skillset that probably depends on the personnel of the defense. I know he'll be there on the goal line, but I have reservations that he'll be sending Tracy to the sidelines on 3rd downs.

More likely we see the hammer in there on early downs and then Tracy gets to come in for the 3rd down dump off / draw, imo. But would I be surprised to see a 4th Rounder usurp the 5th Rounder? Of course not.

Tracy is a good receiver as well, though it does seem people (not just Barack, it's a common misconception!) are overlooking Cam's receiving prowess as well, and thinking his upside is as a 2-down banger.

Cam was 1st in all of D1 college football last year in yards per route run among RBs.

yeah I admit it's a much bigger threat to Tracy's role than If irst thought

 

[titusbramble]

As for the comparison to John Riggins...eh, no. Riggins had sprinter speed for starters. In addition, Big John was as big as the LB's trying to tackle him. Skat will face a whole different environment and durability will be an issue but isn't it an issue for pretty much every NFL back?

If anything, I'm less concerned about durability than I would have been if we were talking five years ago. We've gone to a 17 game season, teams have recognised it, and it is going to be increasingly rare that you are going to see a RB who is going to get that "bellcow" level of workload. I wouldn't be concerned about them asking Skattebo to be handling 300 carries per season, as

a) they have another back on the roster in Tracy that is competent enough to be deserving of taking some decent percentage of the ball
b) at least for now the Giants project to be in game scripts where they would not be running the football a large percentage of the time in the first place

Obviously the trend towards the NFL becoming a passing league with a greater reliance on RBBCs has its implications for fantasy, but in terms of RBs wearing down over the course of a season, I think the impact is generally nowhere near as bad as it used to be, particularly in the case of rookies who would be playing several games more in the pros than they do in college

 

[FreeBaGeL]

As for the comparison to John Riggins...eh, no. Riggins had sprinter speed for starters. In addition, Big John was as big as the LB's trying to tackle him. Skat will face a whole different environment and durability will be an issue but isn't it an issue for pretty much every NFL back?

If anything, I'm less concerned about durability than I would have been if we were talking five years ago. We've gone to a 17 game season, teams have recognised it, and it is going to be increasingly rare that you are going to see a RB who is going to get that "bellcow" level of workload. I wouldn't be concerned about them asking Skattebo to be handling 300 carries per season, as

a) they have another back on the roster in Tracy that is competent enough to be deserving of taking some decent percentage of the ball
b) at least for now the Giants project to be in game scripts where they would not be running the football a large percentage of the time in the first place

Obviously the trend towards the NFL becoming a passing league with a greater reliance on RBBCs has its implications for fantasy, but in terms of RBs wearing down over the course of a season, I think the impact is generally nowhere near as bad as it used to be, particularly in the case of rookies who would be playing several games more in the pros than they do in college

I honestly think it's a non-issue. When we look back on drafting Cam it will be judged by his ability to be a quality RB in this league or not.

If the end result is that he breaks down at age 28 after 6 years of getting a zillion touches that he was good enough to earn, that's a huge win out of your 2025 2nd round rookie pick.

We can only hope he's good enough to one day have that problem.

 

[pinkstapler]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

Not to be a wet blanket, but Tyrone Tracy actually played Wide Receiver in college. Which I'm sure most of you already know.

I just don't know that Skattebo is a better or worse pass catcher than Tracy, but objectively speaking I would say that pass catching is actually one of Tracy's strengths as a RB.


I'm not even making the argument that one guy is better than the other, based on their skillset that probably depends on the personnel of the defense. I know he'll be there on the goal line, but I have reservations that he'll be sending Tracy to the sidelines on 3rd downs.

More likely we see the hammer in there on early downs and then Tracy gets to come in for the 3rd down dump off / draw, imo. But would I be surprised to see a 4th Rounder usurp the 5th Rounder? Of course not.

Tracy is a good receiver as well, though it does seem people (not just Barack, it's a common misconception!) are overlooking Cam's receiving prowess as well, and thinking his upside is as a 2-down banger.

Cam was 1st in all of D1 college football last year in yards per route run among RBs.

yeah I admit it's a much bigger threat to Tracy's role than If irst thought

I think it could be a good thing for both of them, and the Giants as a whole, to have overlapping skill sets tbh. That way they aren't sharing touches so much mid drive, but rather alternating drives. It lets backs keep their momentum, prevents defenses from catching a free breather/making subs, and doesn't give away play calling based on which back is in there. Cam has to improve on his pass blocking, but other than that I think he and Tracey could really handle any down and circumstance in a drive. I just think Cam has the higher ceiling. But it might take time for him to hit it, so at least for this season, I'd consider it a win if they are 50/50 by seasons end.

 

[barackdhouse]

I think he's a great hammer, but any type of hammer is going to be hamstrung by the offense it runs in. He'll be GREAT on the goal line and be a great TD dependent option, but do I trust the New York Giants offense to be competent enough to:

1.) Get to the goal line?
2.) Present enough resistance to prevent stacked boxes?


I don't know about you, but the answer to those questions are "no" and "no". Throw in Tyrone Tracey who I thought had a very nice rookie season (4.4 YPC, 839 yards) and I want nothing to do with this guy. From a real life perspective, I'm rooting on Mike Alstott 2.0 but from a fantasy perspective I don't know that the points will ever be there besides becoming a RZ specialist in a future Giants' offense that we have not seen in a few years. Maybe with Nabers and drafting on Dart things an change, but I can't see the 180 turnaround happening in year 1.


In other words, probably a player that can be had much cheaper in Year 2 than in Year 1 once some of the shine has worn off.

Skattebo was a great receiver out of the backfield last year at ASU (top 5 in college football for receptions by RBs I think) so he's not necessarily limited to just being a hammer.

IDK how I had this as a blind spot for me. I knew I wasn't getting him in any of my drafts and didn't circle back to him enough. For some reason I had it in my head he wasn't much of a receiver. As I said elsewhere I stand corrected haha. Dang.

Not to be a wet blanket, but Tyrone Tracy actually played Wide Receiver in college. Which I'm sure most of you already know.

I just don't know that Skattebo is a better or worse pass catcher than Tracy, but objectively speaking I would say that pass catching is actually one of Tracy's strengths as a RB.


I'm not even making the argument that one guy is better than the other, based on their skillset that probably depends on the personnel of the defense. I know he'll be there on the goal line, but I have reservations that he'll be sending Tracy to the sidelines on 3rd downs.

More likely we see the hammer in there on early downs and then Tracy gets to come in for the 3rd down dump off / draw, imo. But would I be surprised to see a 4th Rounder usurp the 5th Rounder? Of course not.

Tracy is a good receiver as well, though it does seem people (not just Barack, it's a common misconception!) are overlooking Cam's receiving prowess as well, and thinking his upside is as a 2-down banger.

Cam was 1st in all of D1 college football last year in yards per route run among RBs.

yeah I admit it's a much bigger threat to Tracy's role than If irst thought

I think it could be a good thing for both of them, and the Giants as a whole, to have overlapping skill sets tbh. That way they aren't sharing touches so much mid drive, but rather alternating drives. It lets backs keep their momentum, prevents defenses from catching a free breather/making subs, and doesn't give away play calling based on which back is in there. Cam has to improve on his pass blocking, but other than that I think he and Tracey could really handle any down and circumstance in a drive. I just think Cam has the higher ceiling. But it might take time for him to hit it, so at least for this season, I'd consider it a win if they are 50/50 by seasons end.

Yeah I like it when teams employ backs like that too. Bucky and Rachaad are used that way in Tampa. Monty doesn't get quite the targets that Gibbs gets and isn't on that level but he is capable and occasionally gets a couple. But they're used for entire drives at a time or until they need spelled. White and Monty have TD upside as backups that I'm not sure Tracy has even if they employ him like that. And not because of him but because it's the Giants. Tampa and Det just two examples of that kind of 1/2 punch though. To your point I think most smart OCs prefer the overlapping skills sets to keep defenses honest. If you're rotating a guy it's simply based on fatigue or routine not situation. That is hard to defend.

 

[Faust]

Rookie Cam Skattebo feels 'at home' with Giants, excited to 'prove' himself, work alongside Tyrone Tracy Jr.

 

[titusbramble]

Took at #18 in SF rookie draft, vamos

 

[osubuckeyeman]

He is a hard projection for me. His vision and cuts to avoid defenders are impressive. He has that lower-body center-of-gravity thing going on with balance. His initial burst is impressive. He trucks players when given the chance. His screen game is excellent, and he can track the ball well. He also runs with anger. There is a lot to like about this kid. That said, here are some things I'm not high on. He is 23. He trucks players and plays with violence, which may lead to injuries. He does like to cut to the edge, which in college looks good. I'm not sure the speed of the NFL cuts that off for him. The number one problem with Cam Skattebo for me is his acquisition cost. He has risen to the end of the first round of rookie drafts and is climbing. The players going in that area suddenly make drafting Cam much more difficult. He is a fun player to watch and easy to like, a player like him, but I want to approach him with caution. I don't want to fall in love with a player because he is an easy guy to root for and fun to watch play college football. I want to feel good about his transition to the NFL. I'm not sure I'm there yet.

But he sure is a lot of fun to watch.