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RB Dalvin Cook, DAL (1 Viewer)

Tanner9919 said:
guy's missed 16 games in 2 seasons of NFL play - thats a full season of missed games for those keeping score at home. 😉

just simply not worth the risk at this point.
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Coming from the guy who likes D. Freeman this year (do you know who else has missed 16 games in 2 seasons? yep, freeman), and thinks Michels knee is no big deal...

hard to take you seriously when you're consistency is seriously lacking 

 
Vikings released RB Roc Thomas.

Thomas will serve his three-game suspension elsewhere after pleading guilty to felony marijuana possession in May. A 2018 UDFA with Minnesota, Thomas merely notched 10 touches over five games with the team in his rookie season. Third-rounder Alexander Mattison remains Dalvin Cook's backup following Thomas' release.
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Vikes desperately need to get a vet backup RB but this is looking fantastic for Cook.

 
The Frankman said:
Vikes desperately need to get a vet backup RB but this is looking fantastic for Cook.
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They have Ameer Abdullah who was ahead of Thomas and Boone on the depth chart anyways.

Obviously Mattison is expected to take on the CoP role that Murray had and pass Ameer and Boone on the depth chart and I think he will, Ameer is the veteran back up you mention though and a favorite for winning the kick return job as well.

 
My league has labeled me the "RB whisperer". Each year I seem to find that one RB sliding under the radar that's going to breakout.  

Going back to Ahman Green, Holmes, Foster (thanks to FBG), David Johnson (again FBG)

This year I think that RB is Cook. He has the talent and Kubiak has made lesser RB's look like Hall of Famers. He has two WR's and a decent TE to keep the safeties busy. And like somebody else mentioned, he has a cheap handcuff who could also succeed in the system should he get injured. I LOVE drafting RB's with cheap backups who can succeed.  

 
Payne said:
My league has labeled me the "RB whisperer". Each year I seem to find that one RB sliding under the radar that's going to breakout.  

Going back to Ahman Green, Holmes, Foster (thanks to FBG), David Johnson (again FBG)

This year I think that RB is Cook. He has the talent and Kubiak has made lesser RB's look like Hall of Famers. He has two WR's and a decent TE to keep the safeties busy. And like somebody else mentioned, he has a cheap handcuff who could also succeed in the system should he get injured. I LOVE drafting RB's with cheap backups who can succeed.  
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YI'm with you.  Cook is worth a gamble this season. 

 
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Payne said:
My league has labeled me the "RB whisperer". Each year I seem to find that one RB sliding under the radar that's going to breakout.  

Going back to Ahman Green, Holmes, Foster (thanks to FBG), David Johnson (again FBG)

This year I think that RB is Cook. He has the talent and Kubiak has made lesser RB's look like Hall of Famers. He has two WR's and a decent TE to keep the safeties busy. And like somebody else mentioned, he has a cheap handcuff who could also succeed in the system should he get injured. I LOVE drafting RB's with cheap backups who can succeed.  
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Does a guy going in the mid-second really qualify as “under the radar?”

 
Payne said:
My league has labeled me the "RB whisperer". Each year I seem to find that one RB sliding under the radar that's going to breakout.  

Going back to Ahman Green, Holmes, Foster (thanks to FBG), David Johnson (again FBG)

This year I think that RB is Cook. He has the talent and Kubiak has made lesser RB's look like Hall of Famers. He has two WR's and a decent TE to keep the safeties busy. And like somebody else mentioned, he has a cheap handcuff who could also succeed in the system should he get injured. I LOVE drafting RB's with cheap backups who can succeed.  
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Respectfully submitted, the whole fantasy community is very high on Cook.  I don't think you're going out on a limb or uncovering some diamond in the rough.  

 
jm192 said:
Respectfully submitted, the whole fantasy community is very high on Cook.  I don't think you're going out on a limb or uncovering some diamond in the rough.  
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Reminds me a bit of Mixon last year. A year ago his ADP was RB14 & he finished RB10 overall, RB9 PPG. With Cook coming off at RB11 rn, he has the potential to be just outside the Top 5. In full PPR that’s a jump from say 215 to 275 points.

Hige value, but that’s also BEST CASE & presumes a guy who has missed 17 of his first 32 games stays healthy all year. I’m a believer but it’s really hard to find a comp (oft injured RB who suddenly became the model of health & consistency in yr 3.)

Guy has always impressed me & I hope he goes the full 16. Also hoping he fumbles 6 times in his two games vs the Lions but that’s not part of my projection.

 
Dalvin Cook said he's ready to carry the ball "as many times as they want to hand it to me."

Cook also added that he "loves" catching passes and feels he's capable of being a third-round back. With Latavius Murray gone, Cook should have a chance to assert himself as the Vikings' bell-cow. Durability has been a concern for Cook, though he's been effective when healthy, averaging over 90 yards from scrimmage with six touchdowns in 15 games since arriving as a second-round pick in 2017.

SOURCE: St. Paul Pioneer Press

Jul 28, 2019, 11:01 AM ET
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jm192 said:
Respectfully submitted, the whole fantasy community is very high on Cook.  I don't think you're going out on a limb or uncovering some diamond in the rough.  
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I'm saying compared to his ADP,  I think he has the chance to highly outproduce that. Top 5 potential or higher. 

Diamond in the rough guy this year might be Barber. 

 
BobbyLayne said:
Reminds me a bit of Mixon last year. A year ago his ADP was RB14 & he finished RB10 overall, RB9 PPG. With Cook coming off at RB11 rn, he has the potential to be just outside the Top 5. In full PPR that’s a jump from say 215 to 275 points.

Hige value, but that’s also BEST CASE & presumes a guy who has missed 17 of his first 32 games stays healthy all year. I’m a believer but it’s really hard to find a comp (oft injured RB who suddenly became the model of health & consistency in yr 3.)

Guy has always impressed me & I hope he goes the full 16. Also hoping he fumbles 6 times in his two games vs the Lions but that’s not part of my projection.
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i think the injury prone label is justified but a tad unfair... his first injury was an ACL - freak injury... and the hamstring last year occured while he was trying to get back on the field from the ACL.... 

i like cook a lot this year because he showed a very nice PPR floor the close out the season... and there isnt a real competitor for carries on the team currently. if i was stuck with a late 1st draft pick... i'd be gambling on gurley and cook... because the upside here is somewhat unprecedented for picking so late in the first

 
iamkoza said:
i think the injury prone label is justified but a tad unfair... his first injury was an ACL - freak injury... and the hamstring last year occured while he was trying to get back on the field from the ACL.... 

i like cook a lot this year because he showed a very nice PPR floor the close out the season... and there isnt a real competitor for carries on the team currently. if i was stuck with a late 1st draft pick... i'd be gambling on gurley and cook... because the upside here is somewhat unprecedented for picking so late in the first
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I was looking through season finder at PFR and honestly couldn’t find an example of an RB who missed this many games in YR 1 & 2 but went on to excel. I’m sure it’s happened but couldn’t identify anyone.

But Stafford missed 18 games his first two seasons and everyone said “Dude’s made of glass.” That was 128 consecutive starts ago.

 
BobbyLayne said:
I was looking through season finder at PFR and honestly couldn’t find an example of an RB who missed this many games in YR 1 & 2 but went on to excel. I’m sure it’s happened but couldn’t identify anyone.

But Stafford missed 18 games his first two seasons and everyone said “Dude’s made of glass.” That was 128 consecutive starts ago.
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Fred Taylor? Don't remember which season he shook the injuries. Also, not a RB, but Isaac Bruce is another, though, again, perhaps not specifically in year 3.

I don't think the ACL is predictive at all. Hamstring, maybe. He also had injuries and surgeries in college.

 
Just Win Baby said:
Fred Taylor? Don't remember which season he shook the injuries. Also, not a RB, but Isaac Bruce is another, though, again, perhaps not specifically in year 3.

I don't think the ACL is predictive at all. Hamstring, maybe. He also had injuries and surgeries in college.
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Pretty much the closest I found, though he played 15 games and posted 1,644 YFS with 17 TDs as a rookie.

Missed 6, 3 and 14 games in the following three seasons (e.g., played only 25/48.) Coughlin listed him as questionable the last 14 weeks of the 2001 season, drove me nuts.

Started 46 straight after that.

 
BobbyLayne said:
I was looking through season finder at PFR and honestly couldn’t find an example of an RB who missed this many games in YR 1 & 2 but went on to excel. I’m sure it’s happened but couldn’t identify anyone.

But Stafford missed 18 games his first two seasons and everyone said “Dude’s made of glass.” That was 128 consecutive starts ago.
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you could make the argument the missed games are all attributable to one injury the ACL, we know there have been plenty of bounce back seasons year 2 after ACL repair.

 
iamkoza said:
you could make the argument the missed games are all attributable to one injury the ACL, we know there have been plenty of bounce back seasons year 2 after ACL repair.
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The point of the exercise was someone who missed 50% or more of games his first two seasons, then went on to be a Pro Bowler. Couldn’t find one so I broadened it to has at least one 1K season.

Again, I probably missed someone, and I’m not really that worried about it. Watch the film, dude is legit, and the opportunity is there. Can’t asked for more than talent plus opportunity. Anyone can get hurt, and Cook is no more injury prone IMO than anyone else.

 
BobbyLayne said:
The point of the exercise was someone who missed 50% or more of games his first two seasons, then went on to be a Pro Bowler. Couldn’t find one so I broadened it to has at least one 1K season.

Again, I probably missed someone, and I’m not really that worried about it. Watch the film, dude is legit, and the opportunity is there. Can’t asked for more than talent plus opportunity. Anyone can get hurt, and Cook is no more injury prone IMO than anyone else.
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McGahee

 
The Man With No Name said:
McGahee
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Right, sat out his rookie year. Played 32 games in Yr 2 & 3, only missed 3 games through year 5 (season 4.) Obviously he, Gore & Gurley are all guys who came back strong from college knee injuries to have long & productive careers.

 
BobbyLayne said:
The point of the exercise was someone who missed 50% or more of games his first two seasons, then went on to be a Pro Bowler. Couldn’t find one so I broadened it to has at least one 1K season.

Again, I probably missed someone, and I’m not really that worried about it. Watch the film, dude is legit, and the opportunity is there. Can’t asked for more than talent plus opportunity. Anyone can get hurt, and Cook is no more injury prone IMO than anyone else.
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How many players are actually involved in the analysis?  What’s the number of players that qualify? 

 
BobbyLayne said:
Right, sat out his rookie year. Played 32 games in Yr 2 & 3, only missed 3 games through year 5 (season 4.) Obviously he, Gore & Gurley are all guys who came back strong from college knee injuries to have long & productive careers. 
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Add Melvin Gordon to the list. Had microfracture after his rookie season, which has a period of non weight bearing in most cases. ACL surgery you walk on it right away. I'd argue that microfracture is more serious than any ligamentous surgery

 
Graziano: Fantasy tips and nuggets from Bears, Packers and Vikings camps

Excerpt:

Dalvin Cook is healthy, and people are raving about the third-year back.

"He's special. He's as good a runner as I've been around, and I've been around some good ones, one of maybe the best ever," said tight end Kyle Rudolph, a former teammate of Adrian Peterson in Minnesota. "Dalvin is just -- he has vision. I'll never forget when he came in as a rookie. In OTAs, the run game never looks good. Yet this guy always seemed to stretch a play, put his foot in the ground, and then all of a sudden he's 10 yards down the field and he never got touched. He just has that unique vision and skill set and then obviously all of the physical tools are there as well."

Cook is healthy for the first time since that rookie season and said he's fired up after an offseason during which he didn't have to spend all of his time rehabbing.
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I'm a believer in Cook's talent.  He hasn't proven he can stay healthy.  I am keeping Chubb over him, but would risk a mid second on him for sure 

 
Matthew Berry's inaugural Love/Hate for 2019

Dalvin Cook, Vikings: Probably my "love" selection I am most nervous about, but YOLO, am I right, kids? If you draft him, I definitely think you should invest in Alexander Mattison, but if -- I know, huge if -- he can stay healthy, he has legit top-five upside. The Vikings want to run more this year, as evidenced by the change late last season to new offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski. Under previous OC John DeFilippo, the Vikes ranked 29th in rush percentage. Under Stefanski, they ranked sixth. Now, it was just three weeks, but still. They want to run and helping their cause is Gary Kubiak, who joined the staff this offseason. In Kubiak's final five seasons in Houston, the Texans ranked fourth in running back points, and they ran at an above-average rate when he was in Denver. A 16-game season where Cook averages more than 5.7 yards per carry -- as he did in his final five games last season -- is a real possibility. If he can stay healthy. It depends what kind of fantasy player you are and how risk-averse you are, but I like him this year.
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I'm not a big 'cuffer but if I can snag Cook after pick #16 I'm doing it and then grabbing Mattison later.

 
Dalvin Cook rushed 21 times for 111 yards and two touchdowns in the Vikings’ Week 1 win over the Falcons.

Death, taxes, RBs balling out against the Falcons. Cook didn't even need receiving usage to go off Sunday afternoon, as the Vikings' offensive line consistently opened up massive holes for the entire run game. Cook also showed plenty of burst in his own right, consistently breaking arm tackles and even carrying several defenders into the end zone on his second score. Lock Cook in as a RB1 even in a tougher matchup at Lambeau Field in Week 2.

Sep 8, 2019, 4:49 PM ET
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Cook looked really good--like top 6 RB good. But owners need to backup with Mattison, given Cook's injury history. Mattison also looked good.

 
Dalvin Cook rushed 20 times for 154 yards and a touchdown in the Vikings' Week 2 loss to the Packers, adding three receptions for 37 additional yards.

Coming off an excellent Week 1, Cook once again looked like a star, saving what was looking like a bottomless-pit day for the Vikings with his 75-yard touchdown in the second quarter. With the Vikes training 21-0, Cook used a nice cutback, poor tackling and elite breakaway speed to put his team on the board. Finally all the way healthy and the cornerstone for the Vikings' offense, Cook isn't just going to be an RB1, but a high-end RB1. The Vikings host the Raiders for Week 3.
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