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RB Dalvin Cook, DAL (2 Viewers)

Man I was just about to say the same thing. No idea what's what but just can't see a reason to use Shefter to make this public unless something was imminent was about to be made public.
And to be clear, that doesn’t necessarily imply any nefarious motives on Cook’s part. Suppose this woman is a total nut job who’s about to accuse Cook of some horrible crime that she completely made up. It would be smart to get this out there now so that we evaluate her accusations through the prism of “She cray-cray.”

 
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An incident occurred over one year ago, when a female US Military Sergeant used a stolen garage door opener to enter Cook’s home and attack a guest of Cook’s and Cook, per Hiller. “Military Sergeant maced Cook directly in his eyes immediately upon illegally entering”, Hiller said

 
And to be clear, that doesn’t necessarily imply any nefarious motives on Cook’s part. Suppose this woman is a total nut job who’s about to accuse Cook of some horrible crime that she completely made up. It would be smart to get this out there now so that we evaluate her accusations through the prism of “She cray-cray.”
Exactly. Shefter used the term "extortion" and they used Shefter to get this out so just stand to reason they are trying to stay ahead of an accusation. I'm not even trying to suggest Dalvin did anything just that it would appear someone is or was about to try and say he did.

 
i'm wondering if there's any police reports of the incident(s)


It's a good question and I'm going to guess no.

Cooks attorney just put out a statement saying they had a prior relationship that Cook had tried to end and what went down that night essentially boils down to Cook saying he got maced and punched so he acted in self defense which led to a small cut on her nose and I would imagine her side will try to paint a different picture.

When I read his statement the first thing I was hoping to see was something about police reports, police being called or notified. No mention of police just said what this story could be confirmed by two independent witnesses.

 
This was a year ago... Was there any chance Vikings / NFL saw this coming and already decided how they were going to react? 

I feel like he plays during this as it doesn't seem cut and dry which was probably the point of getting ahead of it. Maybe NFL launches its own investigation and/or waits until hearing plays out and sentences after? Not like there's a video where mass public outrage can cause people to demand he sits.

 
Not like there's a video where mass public outrage can cause people to demand he sits.
At least Dalvin hopes there isn't.  Or maybe he hopes there is.  Either way, in this day and age, video is King.  Sadly for guys, if a video does surface and he is getting his ### kicked, he better not retaliate, even with a wet willy.

 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Vikings RB Dalvin Cook is the victim of domestic abuse and extortion, and there is pending litigation.

Cook alleges that his ex-girlfriend broke into his home using a stolen garage door opener and sprayed him and a guest with mace. She is also suing him for assault, battery, and false imprisonment, meaning the parties are now suing each other. At this point, there's nothing to do but wait and see what happens with the legal proceedings.

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Nov 9, 2021, 7:20 PM ET


Dalvin Cook has been accused of physical and emotional abuse in a lawsuit filed by his ex-girlfriend.  

The suit alleges assault, battery, and false imprisonment, and that Cook's alleged abuse caused a concussion. The woman, 29-year-old Gracelyn Trimble, also accuses Cook of holding her hostage with a firearm. Trimble is seeking unspecified monetary damages. The news comes hours after ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Cook himself was the victim of domestic abuse and extortion from Trimble. It would appear Cook's camp was trying to get ahead of these troubling allegations. That is not to presume anything. This has the looks of an ugly legal saga, one that is going to leave Cook's standing with the Vikings in question. Stay tuned. 

SOURCE: Star Tribune

Nov 9, 2021, 9:01 PM ET

 
It's a good question and I'm going to guess no.

Cooks attorney just put out a statement saying they had a prior relationship that Cook had tried to end and what went down that night essentially boils down to Cook saying he got maced and punched so he acted in self defense which led to a small cut on her nose and I would imagine her side will try to paint a different picture.

When I read his statement the first thing I was hoping to see was something about police reports, police being called or notified. No mention of police just said what this story could be confirmed by two independent witnesses.
just checking.  he claimed his story could be confirmed correct?

 
Screenshot going on between Dalvin and the girl, I'll go hunt for link in a minute but this is a real concern now IMO.

Here it is:

Alleged text between Dalvin and girl making accusations
I wish I hadn't seen that or read that. Only because I wanted to believe Cook's side

It's Tuesday, wait until "further information" is gathered and we'll see what Goodell wants to do. But there is no police involvement that we know of and this is a civil suit in the amount of $13M? My guess is she is going to be awarded something, maybe not $13M but she's going to get a settlement at the least. 

 
So it happened a year ago, there's no police report from either party, and there are very conflicting stories?

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1458226661581889536

An incident occurred over one year ago, when a female US Military Sergeant used a stolen garage door opener to enter Cook’s home and attack a guest of Cook’s and Cook, per Hiller. “Military Sergeant maced Cook directly in his eyes immediately upon illegally entering”, Hiller said
I'm not sure we have a good idea what happened.

 
Very tricky in a guillotine league where someone like Cook can drop. Mattison on waiver wire. I have to price in the probability of Cook playing in the whole year and Mattison being on the bench. Looks more and more likely Cook will sit.

Right now I'm thinking Mattison is worth 80% of Cook if he was going to replace him today for sure because he lacks Cook's top 3 upside but is a top 10 RB if he was starting rest of season.

If Mattison was merely sitting on bench he comes worth 1-5% of Cook to a non-Cook owner.

So he's worth anywhere from 1%-80% of Cook's value. If Cook has a 50/50 shot at playing rest of year then he's worth 40% of Cooks value. I don't think I can go all in though based on the chance that he could be worthless... Thinking he's worth anywhere from 20-40% depending on risk appetite and desperation. 
 

edit based on discussions below, leaning more towards unlikely so valuation drops to 5 percent to 20 percent.

 
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Very tricky in a guillotine league where someone like Cook can drop. Mattison on waiver wire. I have to price in the probability of Cook playing in the whole year and Mattison being on the bench. Looks more and more likely Cook will sit.
I would not be assuming that and here is why...with 22 pending lawsuits all of the civil type I believe against our golden one, DeShaun Watson and he is actually eligible to play according to the NFL but simply refuses to take the field for the Texans. 

Cook will play and Minnesota has lined themselves up behind him, that could always change of course but the early signals show he is playing. 

 
I would not be assuming that and here is why...with 22 pending lawsuits all of the civil type I believe against our golden one, DeShaun Watson and he is actually eligible to play according to the NFL but simply refuses to take the field for the Texans. 

Cook will play and Minnesota has lined themselves up behind him, that could always change of course but the early signals show he is playing. 


Are there also pictures and a tweet from Watson admitting guilt though? That's the thing that is making me believe this is closer to 50/50 than 10% chance he sits since some people are saying he's instantly in trouble because of that.

 
I wish I hadn't seen that or read that. Only because I wanted to believe Cook's side

It's Tuesday, wait until "further information" is gathered and we'll see what Goodell wants to do. But there is no police involvement that we know of and this is a civil suit in the amount of $13M? My guess is she is going to be awarded something, maybe not $13M but she's going to get a settlement at the least. 
I really hope all of us can do that. Just remember that everything you’re hearing right now is someone’s effort to control the narrative. It may be true, it may not be, it may be technically true but misleading. But it’s OK if we wait until we know more before unleashing all our hot takes

 
I'm guessing it's very possible they tussled and he pushed her off him and she hit her face like it said. Doesn't have to be intense malice or whatever for that to happen. Not defending him, just a bad situation all around. Pretty dumb for him to go on social media and outright say I know what I did and I'm willing to take police consequences.

 
just checking.  he claimed his story could be confirmed correct?
I think the key point in his story is that he says there were two people in his house who were also assaulted by her. Depending on who they are and how credible their stories are, that could go a long way in allowing us to determine which side is being truthful

 
Screenshot going on between Dalvin and the girl, I'll go hunt for link in a minute but this is a real concern now IMO.

Here it is:

Alleged text between Dalvin and girl making accusations


So it happened a year ago, there's no police report from either party, and there are very conflicting stories?

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1458226661581889536

I'm not sure we have a good idea what happened.


@fatness you might want to click on Meno's link or you might not but it looks pretty bad if its true.  Two sides to every story and neither of them really adds up or answers all the questions. 

-What was she doing with a garage opener? Did Cook give her that? He says it was stolen. 

-What was she doing there and did she really just storm in the place and start macing everyone? She is a Sargent in the Army and I think that should carry a little weight, we as guys like to think most men coming out of the military are the type we want to hire or work with ourselves and we feel that way for a reason and this woman should be no different. 

The stories don't add up but they'll go to court and a judge that is far wiser than I am will be able to see the evidence and make a sound decision I'm sure along with whatever jury is weighing in on things.    

 
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Right now I'm thinking Mattison is worth 80% of Cook if he was going to replace him today for sure because he lacks Cook's top 3 upside but is a top 10 RB if he was starting rest of season.
 


Cook lacks Cook's top-3 upside in 2021. He has been a massive disappointment IMO. On PPG basis is in the 15-20 range for RBs.

Mattison carried the load in 2 games and looked great in both.

 
Cook lacks Cook's top-3 upside in 2021. He has been a massive disappointment IMO. On PPG basis is in the 15-20 range for RBs.

Mattison carried the load in 2 games and looked great in both.
I agree he hasn't looked the best, but from a valuation standpoint, Mattison doesn't have the history of being a top 3 back so no one is going to pay more for Mattison ROS than they would have for Cook. I think you'd have to discount him a little if you were going to trade for a ROS Mattison or something similar. 

 
I agree he hasn't looked the best, but from a valuation standpoint, Mattison doesn't have the history of being a top 3 back so no one is going to pay more for Mattison ROS than they would have for Cook. I think you'd have to discount him a little if you were going to trade for a ROS Mattison or something similar. 


I have both, and if Cook is gone ROS I am good with that. Don't feel like there i any drop off. MIN running scheme is good, Mattision passes the eyeball test (to me). And in games he's started (this year and last) he has been impressive.

 
Is there a point where the vikings would just not want to deal with the media circus around this for the entire year and decide to suspend him to remove the distraction? I feel like this is a real consideration that teams make because it becomes impossible to run an organization and win games with something big looming over their heads (i.e. raiders or any other time there's been videos released that did not look good).

 
She is a Sargent in the Army and I think that should carry a little weight, we as guys like to think most men coming out of the military are the type we want to hire or work with ourselves and we feel that way for a reason and this woman should be no different. 
It was clearly no accident that Cook’s statement referred repeatedly to “Sgt Trimble”. “Ms. Trimble” sounds inherently less  threatening. Sgt  Trimble can kick your ###.

Like I said above, everything you’re hearing in these initial reports, whether true or not, is attempting to manipulate you. 

 
@fatness you might want to click on Meno's link or you might not but it looks pretty bad if its true. 
If true. And it might be. Or his version might be. Or something in-between or different.

This is a lawsuit, not a criminal case, so it'll take awhile to play out. If it was a criminal investigation into Cook right now I'd be worried right now if I was a fantasy owner. But since it's a lawsuit I think things will be a lot slower-moving, league-wise and resolution-wise. Just my guess.

 
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The important thing to remember is that I traded Cook and a first round pick for Antonio Gibson and Lamar Jackson before the season. 

So this situation could be much worse. 
Yes, that’s definitely what I’m focused on here, and I thank you for lending that critical perspective to this situation my friend.  :hifive:

 
If true. And it might be. Or his version might be. Or something in-between or different.

This is a lawsuit, not a criminal case, so it'll take awhile to play out. If it was a criminal investigation into Cook right now I'd be worried right now if I was a fantasy owner. But since it's a lawsuit I think things will be a lot slower-moving, league-wise and resolution-wise. Just my guess.
Great post, bolded everything I agree with, used red for the part I think people should focus on as the big difference here vs other things we may have seen recently in the last year or two. 

 
Is there a point where the vikings would just not want to deal with the media circus around this for the entire year and decide to suspend him to remove the distraction? I feel like this is a real consideration that teams make because it becomes impossible to run an organization and win games with something big looming over their heads (i.e. raiders or any other time there's been videos released that did not look good).
I doubt it. At the moment it’s a cluster of he said she said. We’re talking about the engine that makes this offense go. No way they’d suspend him unless charges are filed. 

 
I doubt it. At the moment it’s a cluster of he said she said. We’re talking about the engine that makes this offense go. No way they’d suspend him unless charges are filed. 


This is how I feel plus Zimmer and possibly Spielman are fighting for their jobs and while  for fantasy we might say stuff like we don't notice a dropoff from Cook to Mattison I assure everyone that's not how Zimmer fills.

Won't say no way but I think more damning actual evidence would need to come to light before we get into stuff like Vikings sending him home.

 
This is how I feel plus Zimmer and possibly Spielman are fighting for their jobs and while  for fantasy we might say stuff like we don't notice a dropoff from Cook to Mattison I assure everyone that's not how Zimmer fills.

Won't say no way but I think more damning actual evidence would need to come to light before we get into stuff like Vikings sending him home.
Not to mention, what if they suspend him, and then evidence comes out that Cook was telling the truth, and was defending himself from an armed intruder, with military training? That would be opening the Vikings/NFL up to some kind of lawsuit from Cook I would think.

 
I have Mattison (mostly just to make the Cook owner sweat a little. But his team is way better than mine so it's not working) and I don't think this affects Cook this season at all, notwithstanding some major news breaking. 

This is all off-season stuff, and a settlement makes it go away. Redraft is no effect; dynasty is wait and see. Not great news, but I don't feel any better having Mattison than I did yesterday. I would be shocked if the team acted on what's out so far. 

 
I have Mattison (mostly just to make the Cook owner sweat a little. But his team is way better than mine so it's not working) and I don't think this affects Cook this season at all, notwithstanding some major news breaking. 

This is all off-season stuff, and a settlement makes it go away. Redraft is no effect; dynasty is wait and see. Not great news, but I don't feel any better having Mattison than I did yesterday. I would be shocked if the team acted on what's out so far. 


I just picked up Mattison off waivers so regarding my pretend football team, I hope you're wrong.

 
Of course this is one of Dalvin's juiciest matchups this week (who I own) and my opponent has Mattison with a ton of byes. 

 
Of course this is one of Dalvin's juiciest matchups this week (who I own) and my opponent has Mattison with a ton of byes. 
I would be shocked if he were suspended this week. As long as it's a he-said, she-said thing, and with no criminal charges filed, the NFL is not going to act hastily. In fact, I'd be surprised if anything happens before the end of the year.

Of course, if a Ray Rice/Kareem Hunt-style video emerges, all bets are off.

 
Good points in this thread. Whatever the truth ends up being, Schefter allowed himself to be used by Cook's agent. He sent a cryptic tweet ("pending litigation"?) that raised more questions than it answered, seemed to assert Cook's victimhood as his own opinion, and provided no context on the accusations Trimble was making against Cook.

 

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