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RB Dalvin Cook, DAL (2 Viewers)

Just to stir the pot a bit more with speculation, I've heard some "experts" think if the Vikings lose tomorrow they might cut Cook outright to get away from this drama and his contract.  This would probably mean Zimmer and co. are toast as well but it would be Mattison time ROS and maybe next year too.  This is obviously an extreme take but ya never know. :)


Wow, having Cook AND Mattison... this would be incredible... like my stock just split or something. 

 
Just to stir the pot a bit more with speculation, I've heard some "experts" think if the Vikings lose tomorrow they might cut Cook outright to get away from this drama and his contract.  This would probably mean Zimmer and co. are toast as well but it would be Mattison time ROS and maybe next year too.  This is obviously an extreme take but ya never know. :)
1% chance of that at most. Cook won't be cut, and Zimmer won't be fired. 

Think its much more likely that unless a ton more comes up, and its negative on Cook, nothing comes from this until the offseason. They may try to trade Cook then, but he's not getting cut, no way.

 
Honestly, if Mattison was ever dropped, the Cook owner should have picked up Mattison and kept him. We knew this was a possibility from the beginning of the year so not sure why people would continue to roster Cook without him if you had a shot at him for free. Think I'd rather trade Cook than risk not having his handcuff.

With both of them, I assume at the end of the year his value isn't that bad. He performs decently when he does play and Mattison steps up when he plays alone. Definitely doesn't have huge games like Henry did but had a good floor.

Just seems likes with all the thursday games, extra game this year, COVID, etc that missing games is likely for all studs so handcuffs are a must going forward. Would be interesting to compare all R1 RBs + primary backup at the end of the year to see how all the duos fall.

 
Honestly, if Mattison was ever dropped, the Cook owner should have picked up Mattison and kept him. We knew this was a possibility from the beginning of the year so not sure why people would continue to roster Cook without him if you had a shot at him for free. Think I'd rather trade Cook than risk not having his handcuff.

With both of them, I assume at the end of the year his value isn't that bad. He performs decently when he does play and Mattison steps up when he plays alone. Definitely doesn't have huge games like Henry did but had a good floor.

Just seems likes with all the thursday games, extra game this year, COVID, etc that missing games is likely for all studs so handcuffs are a must going forward. Would be interesting to compare all R1 RBs + primary backup at the end of the year to see how all the duos fall.
Darn, I opened this thread hoping there was an update.  I hope something is posted today.  It's been a brutal year for RBs.

 
Darn, I opened this thread hoping there was an update.  I hope something is posted today.  It's been a brutal year for RBs.
Sorry, here is your update:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1465372305366859777?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

#Vikings RB Dalvin Cook tore his labrum while dislocating his shoulder yesterday, sources said the MRI revealed. But the ailment is not season-ending. The hope is this is like 2019, when the team rests Cook a few games to have him healthy for a playoff run.

 
Hopefully he comes back for the fantasy playoffs at some point, but if the Vikings are eliminated I suspect he won't.


I think he'll return regardless but they got the Lions and host Steelers so I expect them to be in playoff contention.

A few beat writers have already posted that he had similar injury two years ago, took two games off and came back huge. Saying that I think it's possible he misses 3 games instead of 2 but I think he'll be back in week 15 or 16.

For those of us with Mattison/Cook I'm sure I speak for majority when I say I hope he takes his time. Obviously Mattison could go down next week but otherwise the worst thing would be limited Cook.

Saying that I hope Dalvin is good to go in week 15 because I don't always have him protected with Mattison.

 
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I picked up Mattison when all the DV rumors started swirling around Cook.  Next week I just happen to be facing off against the Cook owner.  Given that Cook always seems to be injured for at least a couple games I am surprised he was even available.  Seems like the perfect handcuff to hold onto as he is always productive when given the chance.

 
.  Seems like the perfect handcuff to hold onto as he is always productive when given the chance.


Actually the first two times that Dalvin was out and Mattison got his shot he fell on his face. He went from someone many considered top difference making handcuff to more middle of the pack handcuff.

He did excell in fantasy meaningless week 17 game last year but that no one cared. This year was first time he stepped in for Cook when fantasy stuff was on the line and got off. I could not imaging cutting him after how he performed this year especially considering that Cook either gets hurt or looks like he got hurt almost weekly

 
Don't like injuries, but I have held Mattison all year for this.


Cook has been consistently unspectacular in 2021... polite way of saying a mini-bust based on his draft status.

I drafted Mattison as a handcuff and expect zero drop-off.

 
I drafted Mattison as a handcuff and expect zero drop-off.


On my DC/AM teams my main concern at this point is just Mattison staying healthy and hoping that when Dalvin returns it's not one of those limited/split snap situations. Otherwise same as you, I expect zero drop off with Mattison.

 
On my DC/AM teams my main concern at this point is just Mattison staying healthy and hoping that when Dalvin returns it's not one of those limited/split snap situations. Otherwise same as you, I expect zero drop off with Mattison.


If you were going to trade or buy Mattison, how high would you go? 100% of what you would have paid for Cook? Or do you think you could get him for less because he's a backup? I'm going to bid on him this week for guillotine league. Not sure if its appropriate to say he's worth spending 100% of whatever I would have paid for Cook. i.e. Cook would have gone for around 150. Next week Jonathan Taylor will probably go for 150. I can't imagine I would spend the same amount as Jonathan Taylor for Mattison. Not even sure if half is appropriate. I'm thinking he's more along the lines of Elijah Mitchell who would maybe be around 50-75... Probably even lower because of the limited track history and possibility of Cook coming back earlier.

 
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If you were going to trade or buy Mattison, how high would you go? 100% of what you would have paid for Cook? Or do you think you could get him for less because he's a backup? I'm going to bid on him this week for guillotine league. Not sure if its appropriate to say he's worth spending 100% of whatever I would have paid for Cook. i.e. Cook would have gone for around 150. Next week Jonathan Taylor will probably go for 150. I can't imagine I would spend the same amount as Jonathan Taylor for Mattison. Not even sure if half is appropriate. I'm thinking he's more along the lines of Elijah Mitchell who would maybe be around 50-75... Probably even lower because of the limited track history and possibility of Cook coming back earlier.


Zimmer just labeled Dalvin as day to day and would not confirm he tore a labrum. I don't believe him but point is this does not sound like an IR stint for Dalvin and if that's not the case it's reasonable to think 2 weeks is likely max for him to be out(Tampa Bay has let Gronk and AB sit out multiple weeks without putting them on IR so it happens, but good indicator most of the time).

So no I'd not value Mattison like I would Cook for ROS. I'd value Mattison like I value Cook only when Dalvin is out and I think that could just be 1-2 games, maybe a little more Mattison work then most when Dalvin returns when Dalvin is healthy he's consistently the bell cow no matter what Mattison does in his abscence. 

If your league playoffs have not started Mattison can be a huge assist helping teams advance, he might not be a lot of use in a few weeks when the playoffs start. That's kind of how I'd prioritize him.  If I'm scratching and clawing to get in the playoffs I'm going hard, otherwise I'd go softer and let other people spend for him.

 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Dalvin Cook (shoulder) is expected to miss "at least" Weeks 13 and 14.

Cook reportedly suffered a dislocated shoulder and torn labrum in the Week 12 loss to the 49ers, but coach Mike Zimmer said that was false and labeled him "day to day." Zimmer has never been entirely truthful regarding injuries in the past, however, so this report from Schefter is what we're going with for now. Alexander Mattison has touch counts of 36 and 36 in the two games Cook has missed this season and is the unquestioned top waiver pickup this week.

RELATED: 

Alexander Mattison

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Nov 29, 2021, 9:11 PM ET

 
Huh. In one league I have Cook and the other team I'm playing has Mattison. This will be an interesting development. I'd be amazed if he plays given that he was carted off just a few weeks ago. 

 
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NBC Sports Edge take:

Dalvin Cook (shoulder) was a limited participant for Tuesday's practice.

ESPN's Adam Schefter previously reported that Cook is expected to miss Week 14, but the latter's return to practice on Tuesday puts him back on the field as early as Week 15 against Chicago. Alexander Mattison, who handled 25 touches sans Cook against Detroit, will remain an elite RB1 if/when Cook is ruled out for Thursday night.

SOURCE: Minnesota Vikings on Twitter

Dec 7, 2021, 4:23 PM ET

 
I don't understand this at all. Cook hasn't been much better than Mattison, if at all. There seems to be no way Cook should be playing less than two weeks after the injury. That's crazy. 

Also gives owners of both a very difficult decision as one tackle could take Cook right out again.  

 
A nightmare scenario for Cook/Mattison owners in probably the worst week of the season for such a thing (and Thursday night to top it off).

 
A nightmare scenario for Cook/Mattison owners in probably the worst week of the season for such a thing (and Thursday night to top it off).
Thursday night is a good thing. That means we get early info, with time to adjust lineups with players in the Sunday/Monday games.

The difficult scenarios are late Sunday, Sunday night, and Monday night games, where we might not have good options to substitute in for players who get ruled out after the early Sunday games kick off.

 
I don't understand this at all. Cook hasn't been much better than Mattison, if at all. There seems to be no way Cook should be playing less than two weeks after the injury. That's crazy. 

Also gives owners of both a very difficult decision as one tackle could take Cook right out again.  
Vikings probably feel that their season is over if they lose to Pittsburgh. If Cook is healthy enough to play, why sit him? 

I don't see a difficult decision at all. If Cook is starting, he's an easy call over Mattison.

A nightmare scenario for Cook/Mattison owners in probably the worst week of the season for such a thing (and Thursday night to top it off).
Its not ideal, especially being a Thursday game. If it were on Sunday, I'd feel 100% confident in Cook. That said, if he's playing, he's almost impossible to bench.

I'm leaning toward him being inactive, but fully ready for week 14. 

 
Vikings probably feel that their season is over if they lose to Pittsburgh. If Cook is healthy enough to play, why sit him? 

I don't see a difficult decision at all. If Cook is starting, he's an easy call over Mattison.

Its not ideal, especially being a Thursday game. If it were on Sunday, I'd feel 100% confident in Cook. That said, if he's playing, he's almost impossible to bench.

I'm leaning toward him being inactive, but fully ready for week 14. 
Is it possible Cook is only suiting up in case Mattison goes down?  And perhaps then, playing Cook is a chance they are willing to take?

 
Vikings probably feel that their season is over if they lose to Pittsburgh. If Cook is healthy enough to play, why sit him? 

I don't see a difficult decision at all. If Cook is starting, he's an easy call over Mattison.

Its not ideal, especially being a Thursday game. If it were on Sunday, I'd feel 100% confident in Cook. That said, if he's playing, he's almost impossible to bench.

I'm leaning toward him being inactive, but fully ready for week 14. 
Really? Easy call? Because, looking at the stats, Mattison isn't the problem at all. Cook has not been Cook this year.

 
Really? Easy call? Because, looking at the stats, Mattison isn't the problem at all. Cook has not been Cook this year.
That isn't really accurate. Cook has been fine this year. He's 4th in rushing yards per game, and is averaging 4.5 YPC. Its just he isn't scoring TD's, which is bad luck more than anything, but his other numbers are basically his 2019. Cook has been better than Mattison, who is averaging only 3.7 YPC, and has had good TD luck in his starts(2 of which were against Detroit)

Is it possible Cook is only suiting up in case Mattison goes down?  And perhaps then, playing Cook is a chance they are willing to take?
That would be a surprise, and really isn't how Mike Zimmer operates. Again, I think Cook will be inactive this week, but if he isn't, its because he's gonna be the guy.

 
Wow being a Cook owner and Steelers fan I have mixed emotions but that would be very surprising to see him play


Priorities man... priorities.

I've been a Steelers fan my whole life, but as a Cook (and Mattison) owner, I pray for them to run for 200+ yds and 3-4 TDs against PIT on Thursday. I guess that's the trade-off of almost 50 years as a Steelers fan, but the last 30 playing fantasy football.

Pretty certain it will be Mattison, but still... run Mattison run!

 
Vikings probably feel that their season is over if they lose to Pittsburgh. If Cook is healthy enough to play, why sit him? 

I don't see a difficult decision at all. If Cook is starting, he's an easy call over Mattison.

Its not ideal, especially being a Thursday game. If it were on Sunday, I'd feel 100% confident in Cook. That said, if he's playing, he's almost impossible to bench.

I'm leaning toward him being inactive, but fully ready for week 14. 
If Cook plays I think you should look to stay away as it is very possible he takes a hit and doesn't finish the game.  I also think it's very likely the touches are split rendering each of them borderline startable.  Based on this I look somewhere else for a starter if possible.  If you have to start one and Cook is active I really don't know which way I would lean.  I guess it would depend on the reports on usage and a feel for how they seem to be talking about him.  

As a Vikings fan I hope they sit Cook.  Mattison is 85% of a healthy Cook and probably close to equal to a damaged Cook.  Let Cook get healthy.  You aren't losing much.  They didn't lose to the Lions because Cook didn't play.   They lost because their coaches are idiots and only rushed three on the last drive.  Ugh.

 
i'm hoping jay glazer gets us the scoopage we need on this situation (if cook actually is active)... with it being a fox broadcast he usually comes through in the pregame show with the usage plan for injured players

 
Dalvin Cook (shoulder) is questionable for Week 14 against the Steelers.

Cook missed Week 13 with the shoulder injury but got in a pair of limited practices ahead of Minnesota's Thursday matchup with the Steelers. The injury was originally expected to sideline him for at least two weeks but he does appear to be a true game-time decision for Week 14. IF he can't go, Alexander Mattison will draw his fourth start of the year. Mattison is averaging 24 carries for 104 yards as a starter this year and should be viewed as a top-five fantasy back when Cook is out.

Dec 8, 2021, 1:59 PM ET

 
Does anyone recall Dalvin’s final injury designation prior to the 2 games he missed earlier this year? Was he questionable or doubtful? 

 
It would be a hoot if he's active since I'm playing against Mattison in an important game.  I'm benching him regardless in the only league I have him........unless I have to swap him in for Henderson.  Regardless, I'm already in the playoffs in that league anyway.  My advice would be to sit him if you have even remotely decent options. 

 
Cannot believe he may play. Yes, I won Mattison, but it just seems reckless for the Vikings to put him out there. 

 
have both, dont have any realistic options at rb. i guess im starting cook, probably either get hurt again right away or some stupid time split.... of course if i bench 150 total yards and 2 tds

 
have both, dont have any realistic options at rb. i guess im starting cook, probably either get hurt again right away or some stupid time split.... of course if i bench 150 total yards and 2 tds
start both if you have to, but only if your other options are bad.

 
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