RB De’Von Achane, MIA (1 Viewer)

[Football Jones]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

 

[Smack Tripper]

He’s gonna have a 1000 yard season

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I feel like Achane is getting to the point of being overrated by most fans.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I feel like Achane is getting to the point of being overrated by most fans.

How so? Basement level floor, but his ceiling is as high or higher than any other RB in the NFL. Sure the odds are very much against him ever being RB1, but he's shown that's a possibility. If you have him and can get a haul that helps your starting lineup, it might make sense to sell. If you have depth, it's pretty hard to trade away someone that's proven he can put up 50 in a single game then immediately back that performance up with two 20+ point games. There aren't many of those players in the entire NFL that have the potential to do that. Sure longevity and health are a concern, but scared money don't make money.

 

[Football Jones]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

 

[Football Jones]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

I’d argue there are untradeable assets depending on situation. I’ve had players that there’s no way I’d move them in a dynasty league. At least not given the rules of the league like how far out you can trade picks. And that especially goes for player-for-player deals. You couldn’t possibly give me enough players in any kind of realistic scenario (when I’m already loaded) to offset my chance at a championship.

But, yeah, I’m sure Achane has been moved in dynasty leagues somewhere, but you’re unlikely to get enough in competitive leagues to pull the trigger now.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

 

[kutta]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

In dynasty, what RB would you take for him straight up right now?

 

[ahartig]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

In dynasty, what RB would you take for him straight up right now?

I have been offered Achane and Devonta Smith plus a 2024 2nd for AJ Brown and a 2024 1st

 

[smbkrypt24]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

I’d argue there are untradeable assets depending on situation. I’ve had players that there’s no way I’d move them in a dynasty league. At least not given the rules of the league like how far out you can trade picks. And that especially goes for player-for-player deals. You couldn’t possibly give me enough players in any kind of realistic scenario (when I’m already loaded) to offset my chance at a championship.

But, yeah, I’m sure Achane has been moved in dynasty leagues somewhere, but you’re unlikely to get enough in competitive leagues to pull the trigger now.

I think Rico Gathers was one of those players wasn't he? Biggest upside we ever saw at the TE position.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

I’d argue there are untradeable assets depending on situation. I’ve had players that there’s no way I’d move them in a dynasty league. At least not given the rules of the league like how far out you can trade picks. And that especially goes for player-for-player deals. You couldn’t possibly give me enough players in any kind of realistic scenario (when I’m already loaded) to offset my chance at a championship.

But, yeah, I’m sure Achane has been moved in dynasty leagues somewhere, but you’re unlikely to get enough in competitive leagues to pull the trigger now.

I think Rico Gathers was one of those players wasn't he? Biggest upside we ever saw at the TE position.

 

[Buckna]

Per DLF here are some actual Achane trades over the 3 weeks (i am sure some context is missing on some of these like # of starting spots, SF or projected pick #’s)

Kareem Hunt RB CLE
2024 R1 draft pick
For
De'Von Achane RB MIA

Jahmyr Gibbs RB DET
2025 R3 draft pick
For
De'Von Achane RB MIA
2024 R2 draft pick
2025 R2 draft pick

De'Von Achane RB MIA
Kyren Williams RB LAR
DK Metcalf WR SEA
2024 R1 draft pick
For
Austin Ekeler RB LAC
Amon-Ra St. Brown WR DET

De'Von Achane RB MIA
For
Roschon Johnson RB CHI
2025 R1 draft pick

Bryce Young QB CAR
De'Von Achane RB MIA
Pat Freiermuth TE PIT
2024 R1 draft pick
2024 R3 draft pick
For
Tyler Huntley QB BAL
Lamar Jackson QB BAL
Saquon Barkley RB NYG
Courtland Sutton WR DEN
George Kittle TE SF

DK Metcalf WR SEA
2024 R1 draft pick
For
De'Von Achane RB MIA

DeVonta Smith WR PHI
For
De'Von Achane RB MIA
Treylon Burks WR TEN
2024 R2 draft pick

De'Von Achane RB MIA
2024 R2 draft pick
For
DeVonta Smith WR

Jonathan Taylor RB IND
Jonathan Mingo WR CAR
Michael Mayer TE LV
For
De'Von Achane RB MIA
Jeff Wilson Jr RB MIA
Dalton Kincaid TE BUF
2024 R4 draft pick

De'Von Achane RB MIA
For
Zach Charbonnet RB SEA
Gabriel Davis WR BUF
2024 R4 draft pick

 

[Football Jones]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

I’d argue there are untradeable assets depending on situation. I’ve had players that there’s no way I’d move them in a dynasty league. At least not given the rules of the league like how far out you can trade picks. And that especially goes for player-for-player deals. You couldn’t possibly give me enough players in any kind of realistic scenario (when I’m already loaded) to offset my chance at a championship.

But, yeah, I’m sure Achane has been moved in dynasty leagues somewhere, but you’re unlikely to get enough in competitive leagues to pull the trigger now.

I think Rico Gathers was one of those players wasn't he? Biggest upside we ever saw at the TE position.

Best TE prospect ever.

Ol' Rico, LOL. I think he was more interested in his music than being a football player. What could have been. I had him on my sleeper list forever. Really liked his upside, especially since he was free.

It's such a boon to your roster when you hit on a player without using a pick or trade to acquire (Tyreek is a good example back in the day).

 

[smbkrypt24]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

I’d argue there are untradeable assets depending on situation. I’ve had players that there’s no way I’d move them in a dynasty league. At least not given the rules of the league like how far out you can trade picks. And that especially goes for player-for-player deals. You couldn’t possibly give me enough players in any kind of realistic scenario (when I’m already loaded) to offset my chance at a championship.

But, yeah, I’m sure Achane has been moved in dynasty leagues somewhere, but you’re unlikely to get enough in competitive leagues to pull the trigger now.

I think Rico Gathers was one of those players wasn't he? Biggest upside we ever saw at the TE position.

Best TE prospect ever.

Ol' Rico, LOL. I think he was more interested in his music than being a football player. What could have been. I had him on my sleeper list forever. Really liked his upside, especially since he was free.

It's such a boon to your roster when you hit on a player without using a pick or trade to acquire (Tyreek is a good example back in the day).

I am glad you take it in stride. Most don’t have that ability on here. I picked him up because of you, but wasn’t willing to hold out as long as some did.
I give you a hard time there but I am always interested in those feel sleepers before everyone else may pick up on them so I pay attention to posters that are closely tied with teams.

 

[BlackCrowes]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

In dynasty, what RB would you take for him straight up right now?

Bijan for sure. Probably a few others

 

[Buckna]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

In dynasty, what RB would you take for him straight up right now?

Bijan for sure. Probably a few others

Breece, Bijan, CMC, ETN definite yes’s.

Maybe’s depending on your personal preferences: Gibbs, Taylor, KW3

But still nearly half a season left so lots could change.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

In dynasty, what RB would you take for him straight up right now?

I’m not in a dynasty league but I’d definitely take an established back like McCaffrey or JTaylor over him. I recognize there is an age difference but I like established blue chip RBs. If they have a couple 2-3 years left on them, all the better.

 

[Football Jones]

Gotta be super-high on Achane right now, but it’s possible he’s way overrated at this point.

We really don’t know what he is right now. Still a huge range of outcomes. We’ll know a lot more after the season.

He's the most explosive RB in the league on an offense that fits and schemes to his strengths to a T. That's who he is.

His ability to stay healthy, ANY RBs ABILITY TO STAY HEALTHY, is always a question.

His blazing speed and quick moves in the hole coupled with semi-light usage is likely to yield more eye-popping weeks but also some disappointments. He's the perfect RB#2 or flex if you have depth because he can singlehandedly win you a game any given week even if his performance is likely to be highly volatile.

We may have a good idea of WHO he is as a raw prospect, but we really don’t know jack about WHAT he is as a long-term FF prospect. Too much is unknown right now, not to mention his outlier status at 188 pounds. Achane could easily end up being overrated.

That said, I’m high on his prospects as they stand now. I’m on record as stating if Achane produces & looks real good doing it the rest of the way, I’d probly move him for McCaffrey (but part of that is CMC’s age).

He doesn't look small running the ball, and he actually creates some push when running between the tackles. That's all I care about.

If you have a crystal ball and can predict the future on ANY player, let me know. The NFL is so unpredictable. One season you're the next big thing, the next thing you know your replacement/compliment is being drafted and your production tanks (KWIII). One season you're the picture of health and durability. The next you tear your ACL (Chubb). One season you're the #1RB by a good margin, the next you're a massive bust (Jon Taylor).

Achane has already proven he can play in the league. Beyond that, who knows? Sure, durability, production, and opportunity are not a given. But those things aren't guaranteed for any player in the league.

There are less than 5 RBs in the league right now I would trade him straight up for in redraft. CMC, Ekeler, Taylor and Henry, that's it. Maybe add 1 or 2 to the list if we're talking about dynasty (Bijan and Hall), but Achane's ceiling is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. I have a hard time trading away potential like that, even if Achane is very much unproven.

I definitely can’t predict the future, lol, which was my point. And like you, I certainly wouldn’t move Achane if I owned him.

I agree with much of what you say, but he’s so highly regarded now it’s prudent to be patient & see exactly what we have, long-term. Achane is a non-traditional RB so some caution is needed, IMO.

That said, I wouldn’t blame somebody if they made a super-aggressive offer to acquire him, but I kinda doubt anyone is selling right now.

A prudent fantasy football owner will listen to all offers for all players at all times. No one is untradeable, but if you own Achane it's going to be pretty hard to find a deal you're comfortable with. I've run a million different deals and scenarios where I would trade the guy and I've yet to land on one that doesn't give me heart burn and there's no way the Ekeler, Henry, Taylor or CMC owner is going to deal one of those guys for Achane. Might as well just sit back and ride the wave wherever it takes me.

I’d argue there are untradeable assets depending on situation. I’ve had players that there’s no way I’d move them in a dynasty league. At least not given the rules of the league like how far out you can trade picks. And that especially goes for player-for-player deals. You couldn’t possibly give me enough players in any kind of realistic scenario (when I’m already loaded) to offset my chance at a championship.

But, yeah, I’m sure Achane has been moved in dynasty leagues somewhere, but you’re unlikely to get enough in competitive leagues to pull the trigger now.

I think Rico Gathers was one of those players wasn't he? Biggest upside we ever saw at the TE position.

Best TE prospect ever.

Ol' Rico, LOL. I think he was more interested in his music than being a football player. What could have been. I had him on my sleeper list forever. Really liked his upside, especially since he was free.

It's such a boon to your roster when you hit on a player without using a pick or trade to acquire (Tyreek is a good example back in the day).

I am glad you take it in stride. Most don’t have that ability on here. I picked him up because of you, but wasn’t willing to hold out as long as some did.
I give you a hard time there but I am always interested in those feel sleepers before everyone else may pick up on them so I pay attention to posters that are closely tied with teams.

Exactly. I’ve always thought it better to be a little early than late. Your last roster spot or two are ideally used for darts if you can afford the space.

I’ve hit on a lot of players that way (being early on guys Tyreek & Julius Thomas to name a couple off the top of my head). I have a good track record with my sleepers, but Rico was a giant PITA.

 

[cockroach]

Achane is promising but hardly established.

In dynasty, what RB would you take for him straight up right now?

Bijan for sure. Probably a few others

Totally understandable but that's a pass for me. At this point FF is barely keeping me interested in the NFL. If I had to watch ATL/Bijan every week for my dopamine hit, I'd be ripping my hair out.


Watching Achane in that Miami offense is juice in my veins.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

 

[eighsse2]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

If I understand it, this seems like a no-brainer ...
You're going nowhere this year, and you can't keep McCaffrey? He is literally worthless in your hands. Then you would be able to keep Achane for basically his entire career, or as many years as he is still worth it?

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

If I understand it, this seems like a no-brainer ...
You're going nowhere this year, and you can't keep McCaffrey? He is literally worthless in your hands. Then you would be able to keep Achane for basically his entire career, or as many years as he is still worth it?

You can only keep players for 2 years max, but you're correct otherwise. I've also been fielding some other offers HERE but I feel like Achane may be the best keeper around.

Punishment for last place truly sucks so I am only considering keeping CMC only to avoid that haha.

 

[DocHolliday]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

If I understand it, this seems like a no-brainer ...
You're going nowhere this year, and you can't keep McCaffrey? He is literally worthless in your hands. Then you would be able to keep Achane for basically his entire career, or as many years as he is still worth it?

You can only keep players for 2 years max, but you're correct otherwise. I've also been fielding some other offers HERE but I feel like Achane may be the best keeper around.

Punishment for last place truly sucks so I am only considering keeping CMC only to avoid that haha.

I would make that trade immediately.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

If I understand it, this seems like a no-brainer ...
You're going nowhere this year, and you can't keep McCaffrey? He is literally worthless in your hands. Then you would be able to keep Achane for basically his entire career, or as many years as he is still worth it?

You can only keep players for 2 years max, but you're correct otherwise. I've also been fielding some other offers HERE but I feel like Achane may be the best keeper around.

Punishment for last place truly sucks so I am only considering keeping CMC only to avoid that haha.

I would make that trade immediately.

I've received a few other offers and more are pouring in, which is why I haven't accepted quite yet. But Achane is the best single keeper I have on the table atm.

 

[eighsse2]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

If I understand it, this seems like a no-brainer ...
You're going nowhere this year, and you can't keep McCaffrey? He is literally worthless in your hands. Then you would be able to keep Achane for basically his entire career, or as many years as he is still worth it?

You can only keep players for 2 years max, but you're correct otherwise. I've also been fielding some other offers HERE but I feel like Achane may be the best keeper around.

Punishment for last place truly sucks so I am only considering keeping CMC only to avoid that haha.

I would make that trade immediately.

I've received a few other offers and more are pouring in, which is why I haven't accepted quite yet. But Achane is the best single keeper I have on the table atm.

Yeah, I'm used to full dynasty, so I'm not used to the concept of truly worthless assets that are worthwhile to someone else. So I can understand hunting for the best offer. (Whereas in dynasty, you get an offer that distinctly improves your situation, you have no reason to hesitate.) But also I can understand the punishment factoring in. Still, unless you realistically expect something even better to be available, I'd say pull that trigger before the offer disappears.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

 

[eighsse2]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

That's a good question ... if I had the choice (again I'm not used to keepers, so I have to consider who would be available in the 2nd-3rd round range after 24 keepers are accounted for ... similar to 4th's and 5th's in redraft with a slight bent toward youth, I suppose) ... I'd probably take Hall. But do you think you can wrench him away for McCaffrey?

 

[heckmanm]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

I used to play in a similar league. To me, the calculation would be:

Achane + (3rd round pick - 9th round pick)
Hall + (9th round pick - 3rd round pick)

i.e., if you think Hall > Achane, then you have to also consider who you'll be able to get in the 3rd vs who you'll get in the 9th.

When I was in that league, I would usually try to keep a late-round gem over an early-round stud, unless they were vastly different in value.

 

[LawFitz]

Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th

9th rounders are basically throw away picks. I think I'd rather have Achane + a 3rd over Hall. It's a gamble though. Achane has world-beater upside, but Hall's floor is much higher and his ceiling isn't low either.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

I used to play in a similar league. To me, the calculation would be:

Achane + (3rd round pick - 9th round pick)
Hall + (9th round pick - 3rd round pick)

i.e., if you think Hall > Achane, then you have to also consider who you'll be able to get in the 3rd vs who you'll get in the 9th.

When I was in that league, I would usually try to keep a late-round gem over an early-round stud, unless they were vastly different in value.

Very good way of putting it. Achane has maybe the highest potential for an RB, given his speed, production in a short period of time and that ridiculous Miami O. However Mostert being their + Achane's injury concerns worry me.

Hall I think is the most talented RB in the NFL, and if Rodgers was his QB he would be RB1 in FF. But like you positioned it, in the 3rd I could likely get a very nice player. Round 9 would be a total toss up.

 

[LawFitz]

Also, a lot can/will change before year 2, but in that year, it becomes Achane + a 2nd rounder for Hall. Even in the worst case of Achane completely busting by then, you are still at least getting your 2nd rounder that year in place of whatever Hall becomes.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

I used to play in a similar league. To me, the calculation would be:

Achane + (3rd round pick - 9th round pick)
Hall + (9th round pick - 3rd round pick)

i.e., if you think Hall > Achane, then you have to also consider who you'll be able to get in the 3rd vs who you'll get in the 9th.

When I was in that league, I would usually try to keep a late-round gem over an early-round stud, unless they were vastly different in value.

Very good way of putting it. Achane has maybe the highest potential for an RB, given his speed, production in a short period of time and that ridiculous Miami O. However Mostert being their + Achane's injury concerns worry me.

Hall I think is the most talented RB in the NFL, and if Rodgers was his QB he would be RB1 in FF. But like you positioned it, in the 3rd I could likely get a very nice player. Round 9 would be a total toss up.

Injuries aren't as predictable as some think. I wouldn't let that factor in too much.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

I used to play in a similar league. To me, the calculation would be:

Achane + (3rd round pick - 9th round pick)
Hall + (9th round pick - 3rd round pick)

i.e., if you think Hall > Achane, then you have to also consider who you'll be able to get in the 3rd vs who you'll get in the 9th.

When I was in that league, I would usually try to keep a late-round gem over an early-round stud, unless they were vastly different in value.

Very good way of putting it. Achane has maybe the highest potential for an RB, given his speed, production in a short period of time and that ridiculous Miami O. However Mostert being their + Achane's injury concerns worry me.

Hall I think is the most talented RB in the NFL, and if Rodgers was his QB he would be RB1 in FF. But like you positioned it, in the 3rd I could likely get a very nice player. Round 9 would be a total toss up.

Injuries aren't as predictable as some think. I wouldn't let that factor in too much.

Fair. I just don't love the fact he's missed multiple weeks twice already in his rookie season. He's so dang tiny too.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

I used to play in a similar league. To me, the calculation would be:

Achane + (3rd round pick - 9th round pick)
Hall + (9th round pick - 3rd round pick)

i.e., if you think Hall > Achane, then you have to also consider who you'll be able to get in the 3rd vs who you'll get in the 9th.

When I was in that league, I would usually try to keep a late-round gem over an early-round stud, unless they were vastly different in value.

Very good way of putting it. Achane has maybe the highest potential for an RB, given his speed, production in a short period of time and that ridiculous Miami O. However Mostert being their + Achane's injury concerns worry me.

Hall I think is the most talented RB in the NFL, and if Rodgers was his QB he would be RB1 in FF. But like you positioned it, in the 3rd I could likely get a very nice player. Round 9 would be a total toss up.

Injuries aren't as predictable as some think. I wouldn't let that factor in too much.

Fair. I just don't love the fact he's missed multiple weeks twice already in his rookie season. He's so dang tiny too.

TikTok vid of McDaniel saying that he looks good...was "un-tackleable" in practice.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Pulled the trigger....

I landed Achane and Keaton Mitchell for CMC and Doubs.

I also found out you can keep players for 3 years instead of 2, so even better long-term.

 

[FarFromHome]

@eighsse2 The owner with Achane also has Breece Hall, who would be valued at a 3rd next year then a 2nd the following.

Should I covet Hall at a 3rd or Achane at a 9th more?

I used to play in a similar league. To me, the calculation would be:

Achane + (3rd round pick - 9th round pick)
Hall + (9th round pick - 3rd round pick)

i.e., if you think Hall > Achane, then you have to also consider who you'll be able to get in the 3rd vs who you'll get in the 9th.

When I was in that league, I would usually try to keep a late-round gem over an early-round stud, unless they were vastly different in value.

Very good way of putting it. Achane has maybe the highest potential for an RB, given his speed, production in a short period of time and that ridiculous Miami O. However Mostert being their + Achane's injury concerns worry me.

Hall I think is the most talented RB in the NFL, and if Rodgers was his QB he would be RB1 in FF. But like you positioned it, in the 3rd I could likely get a very nice player. Round 9 would be a total toss up.

Injuries aren't as predictable as some think. I wouldn't let that factor in too much.

Fair. I just don't love the fact he's missed multiple weeks twice already in his rookie season. He's so dang tiny too.

And that is the key in all this. If I knew I was gonna get a full season out of him the sky is the limit. Unfortunately he has missed as many games as he has played. Still fun to watch when active.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Was just offered an enormous trade.

My CMC for his Achane.

The main thing to note though this is a 2 keeper league for rounds 3 onwards (Moving up a round each year). Since I drafted CMC in the first I wouldn't be able to keep him. He drafted Achane in the 10th, so he would be a 9th round keeper next season then an 8th the following year.

I am currently 2-8 and completely out of the playoff race (I have the 5th most PF out of 12 guys but the most PA by a landslide).

What say you?

In your particular situation this is an automatic accept.

 

[=Smackdown=]

McDaniel on Achane

 

[ahartig]

McDaniel on Achane

Well crap, what was his actual answer, LOL

 

[SoBeDad]

McDaniel on Achane

Well crap, what was his actual answer, LOL

"Monday he was untacklerable" plus a caveat that they have other capable backs, plus rain ... lots of it. Sounds like he's good to go. But this time Jeff Wilson should also be available so temper expectations a little. Never a brief answer from coach.

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1724876965700661682?t=q7TDlXVgQwzTBgbUftsesQ&s=19

 

[D-Day]

McDaniel on Achane

Well crap, what was his actual answer, LOL

"Monday he was untacklerable" plus a caveat that they have other capable backs, plus rain ... lots of it. Sounds like he's good to go. But this time Jeff Wilson should also be available so temper expectations a little. Never a brief answer from coach.

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1724876965700661682?t=q7TDlXVgQwzTBgbUftsesQ&s=19

Probably "untackleable" due to wearing a non-contact jersey.

 

[VikingFrog]

McDaniel on Achane

Well crap, what was his actual answer, LOL

"Monday he was untacklerable" plus a caveat that they have other capable backs, plus rain ... lots of it. Sounds like he's good to go. But this time Jeff Wilson should also be available so temper expectations a little. Never a brief answer from coach.

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1724876965700661682?t=q7TDlXVgQwzTBgbUftsesQ&s=19

Probably "untackleable" due to wearing a non-contact jersey.

He wasn’t wearing a non-contact jersey according to reports.

 

[VikingFrog]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1725258016768004293

Set to return week 11 barring a setback.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1725258016768004293

Set to return week 11 barring a setback.

The Raider fan in me is crying, but the Achane fantasy owner is celebrating deep down.

 

[Faust]

Dolphins HC Mike McDaniel said he’s “very optimistic” about De’Von Achane (knee) returning in Week 11 against the Raiders.

has been limited in each of his first two practices to open the week, and will in all likelihood draw a questionable tag heading into the weekend. The rookie running back was expected to miss the minimum four games required of any player who lands on injured reserve back in October, and is trending toward a return this weekend. We’ll have more clarity on his situation when the team releases their final injury report on Friday, but things continue to move in the right direction for Achane.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

This is wild.

 

[N Zone]

Strategy question. To activate Achane from IR need to drop someone. Is it better to drop a back up tight end or a running back handcuff?

 

[elmanx]

Strategy question. To activate Achane from IR need to drop someone. Is it better to drop a back up tight end or a running back handcuff?

You're gonna need to post a lot more info to get a good answer. Posting the entire roster would be a good start. Or at least the players in question.