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RB Derrick Henry, BAL (1 Viewer)
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Well, I'll go the other way on this, the time to buy was late last season, I'm not selling high exists. In redraft I'd have Henry as RB2 behind only CMC right now. 20 TDs is very much on the table, as is 5+ YPC, and 1500+ yards. Having the threat of Lamar is gonna lead to Henry having the least attention from defenses he's had in his career.
Ooof this stings
The Ravens have to get him his carries. Don't give him 8 carries for a game or three per quarter or else he won't do well and people will claim he's washed up. He needs the work, let him put the team on his back.
Lamar needs to run less for his own career longevity and for this to work.
Don't stress n make errant throws, Henry will get ya there.
They need outside threats to become more than potential. It can't be Henry runs up the gut and Andrews catches passes over the middle. They gotta spread the defense out.
The Titans have often played the Chiefs well- largely because of Henry and all their D shifts to not be overrun by him.
This is very well setup for Baltimore to challenge the reigning champs.
The Ravens have to get him his carries. Don't give him 8 carries for a game or three per quarter or else he won't do well and people will claim he's washed up. He needs the work, let him put the team on his back.
Lamar needs to run less for his own career longevity and for this to work.
Don't stress n make errant throws, Henry will get ya there.
They need outside threats to become more than potential. It can't be Henry runs up the gut and Andrews catches passes over the middle. They gotta spread the defense out.
The Titans have often played the Chiefs well- largely because of Henry and all their D shifts to not be overrun by him.
This is very well setup for Baltimore to challenge the reigning champs.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That will be the narrative for selling high. Look at you, making the perfect sales pitch.
If I’m a Henry owner I’m copying & pasting your post into my offers.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Henry owner here in SF
Not selling - unless someone wants to offer a top 5 rookie pick or similar value.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
There is going to be a time when Henry production just stops.. I don't know if it is this year, but it's going to happen soon.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
My price would be 1.3.Henry owner here in SF
Not selling - unless someone wants to offer a top 5 rookie pick or similar value.
Henry got sold late last year in my dynasty league for what ended up being 2.1 and Chase Brown. I would think that owner has to be kicking themselves right now, and I thought they should have been at the time.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't know if I agree. I don't think a Cyborg ever gets tired or has wear and tear. He could still be getting double digit TDs years after I'm dead and gone.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Id deal him for 1.03 as fast as I could possibly move
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He could also become Bettis II, where he has like ~400 RuYd & 22 TD.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Amen. Or 1.04, or 1.05
Another interesting thing is the contract. 2/16 is pennies on the dollar for Henry. That's what Swift got, and Henry is 3X the player Swift is.
4.5 million less than Barkley, who is also not as good as Henry. Its the same as what the Titans gave Pollard. Man, Henry really took a discount to play with Lamar.
The big winners of all the RB movement are Baltimore and Minnesota in my opinion. They got the 2 best RBs (older guys but still the best guys) at very discounted prices.
4.5 million less than Barkley, who is also not as good as Henry. Its the same as what the Titans gave Pollard. Man, Henry really took a discount to play with Lamar.
The big winners of all the RB movement are Baltimore and Minnesota in my opinion. They got the 2 best RBs (older guys but still the best guys) at very discounted prices.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I think I’ll pass (although I could use a QB)
Q Dak, Carr, Watson/winston
R Barkley, Henry, Walker, ekeler
W kupp, g Wilson, Evans, 1.02(?)
T Kelce, Kincaid
So, he won’t go on the block.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Do it! For science!
-OZ-
Footballguy
I don’t see much difference in SF.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Big upgrade for him. An actual top 10 OL and an effective offense around him. Gus put up 13 TDs and 810 yds on 198 carries, so I don't see how King doesn't top those numbers for 2024.
need2know
Footballguy
i dunno. the guy is a freak
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Really makes the Titan's decision to not trade Henry last year even dumber. Much like damn near everyone predicted, Henry would leave in the offseason and the Titans would get nothing.
As a fan of Henry's I'm stoked.
As a fan of Henry's I'm stoked.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I'd consider leaving out the 20 TDs part lol. Calling it a bit hyperbolic is generous IMO. If I'm seeing the numbers right only 8 RBs have scored 20+ TDs in a season over the past 15 years, and nearly all of them had a good chunk come through high receiving work usage (Kamara/CMAC/Ekeler etc). I get Henry owners being pumped, this was a great landing spot for him. But Henry has never even had 20 TDs, and only even got close twice. I'd say 15 would be a much more reasonable optimistic take.
beef
Footballguy
Don't be pissing on our hopes and dreams here pal. I'll call your bet and raise you 25 TDs!
Legit point though.
. This RB carousel has been soo much fun these past 30 hours.pinkstapler
Footballguy
While I can't say I'm pulling for Henry, it's because I'm a Steelers fan, not because of him as a player. He is without a doubt a one-off, mold-breaking type player. Never seen a RB with a longevity like his combined with his sustained high level of performance. But, despite Henry being an obvious freak of nature, I don't think any reasonable owner is going to be paying a high first round pick in this apparently loaded draft for a 30 year old RB with 2000+ attempts under his belt when historically the cliff has been well documented at age 28 and 1500-1800 touches. I won't even touch on the Ravens RB curse lol. Owners should certainly be rejoicing though because he is certainly favored to finish as a top 5 RB now, however he winds up getting it done.Don't be pissing on our hopes and dreams here pal. I'll call your bet and raise you 25 TDs!
Legit point though.
It's really starting to feel like the NFL teams making a comment about this incoming rookie RB class. I still think there will be a few hits in there, but I'm starting to wonder how many even sniff decent draft capitol with all these FA finding landing spots on competitive rosters.
kutta
Footballguy
Good point about this RB class. I agree all these signings are an indictment on this class.While I can't say I'm pulling for Henry, it's because I'm a Steelers fan, not because of him as a player. He is without a doubt a one-off, mold-breaking type player. Never seen a RB with a longevity like his combined with his sustained high level of performance. But, despite Henry being an obvious freak of nature, I don't think any reasonable owner is going to be paying a high first round pick in this apparently loaded draft for a 30 year old RB with 2000+ attempts under his belt when historically the cliff has been well documented at age 28 and 1500-1800 touches. I won't even touch on the Ravens RB curse lol. Owners should certainly be rejoicing though because he is certainly favored to finish as a top 5 RB now, however he winds up getting it done.Don't be pissing on our hopes and dreams here pal. I'll call your bet and raise you 25 TDs!
Legit point though.
It's really starting to feel like the NFL teams making a comment about this incoming rookie RB class. I still think there will be a few hits in there, but I'm starting to wonder how many even sniff decent draft capitol with all these FA finding landing spots on competitive rosters.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yeah people keep forgetting what a bottom scraping OL they have in Tennessee. And teams can't load up on Henry with Lamar also to deal with.
Titans were 30th in yards before contact, Ravens were 1st. I feel comfortable adding a full yard per carry to Henry's average, and I would look at Gus Edwards TDs as Henry's absolute floor.
SuperFantasyFootballGuy
Footballguy
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
Runkle
Footballguy
I would not say that the Titans O-Line was built around Henry. It was a detriment to him, not a positive.
SuperFantasyFootballGuy
Footballguy
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
82 TDs over his last 6 seasons
Should easily handle 275 carries, 4.8 ypc in Baltimore is reasonable
1,350 rush, 1,500 total if he starts all year, another 12-15 TDs, yes LJackson will see his TDs slide back a little.
What's a 100yds and a TD worth in Redraft, especially if it's pretty consistent.
They haven't had a dominant RB since Jamal Lewis
Should easily handle 275 carries, 4.8 ypc in Baltimore is reasonable
1,350 rush, 1,500 total if he starts all year, another 12-15 TDs, yes LJackson will see his TDs slide back a little.
What's a 100yds and a TD worth in Redraft, especially if it's pretty consistent.
They haven't had a dominant RB since Jamal Lewis
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
The edwards scenario was just freakish last year because they ended up on the 1yard line so much - 2, 2-,6, 3, 13 are his tds
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
SuperFantasyFootballGuy
Footballguy
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
So why do you think the Ravens decided to pay Henry $20,000,000 for 2-years if they could have gotten the same production from Gus Edwards for $6,000,000 over 2-years?
Not poking, I respect your opinion I am just wondering why you might think the Ravens did that if they plan on giving Henry the same touches they were giving the old guy who already knows the offense over double the amount of money.
The Ravens a team with the reigning MVP that made it to the AFC Championship that boasts the best running attack in football don't know what they're doing? I suppose it's possible but I tend to lean that Harbaugh and that GM know more than me. They're one of the better run franchises in the league.
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
So why do you think the Ravens decided to pay Henry $20,000,000 for 2-years if they could have gotten the same production from Gus Edwards for $6,000,000 over 2-years?
Not poking, I respect your opinion I am just wondering why you might think the Ravens did that if they plan on giving Henry the same touches they were giving the old guy who already knows the offense.
The same reason 100s of teams have overpaid for players. The same reason the commanders gave Haynesworth a record-breaking contract, the same reason NE overpaid wrs a couple of years back, the same reason it has happened over and over again. They are guessing in a flawed process in a competitive market.
Josh Norman got 75 million
coby fleener got 40 million
Andre Johnson got a huge contract from the colts (in a very similar situation as an over 30 over the hill star)
Demarco Murray got 40 million from the eagles
So yes the same reason as all those other contracts
Maybe it's Lamar related but it seems a constant that the outside guys are always unrealized potential.
Zay over the middle would be more congested so he probably is running different routes in 2024 but they were also probably going to do that just year one year two stuff anyways.
SuperFantasyFootballGuy
Footballguy
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
So why do you think the Ravens decided to pay Henry $20,000,000 for 2-years if they could have gotten the same production from Gus Edwards for $6,000,000 over 2-years?
Not poking, I respect your opinion I am just wondering why you might think the Ravens did that if they plan on giving Henry the same touches they were giving the old guy who already knows the offense.
The same reason 100s of teams have overpaid for players. The same reason the commanders gave Haynesworth a record-breaking contract, the same reason NE overpaid wrs a couple of years back, the same reason it has happened over and over again. They are guessing in a flawed process in a competitive market.
Josh Norman got 75 million
coby fleener got 40 million
Andre Johnson got a huge contract from the colts (in a very similar situation as an over 30 over the hill star)
Demarco Murray got 40 million from the eagles
So yes the same reason as all those other contracts
I can dig it. Thank you for your response. I personally think you could average 4 YPC in that offense let alone an elite back like Derrick Henry, but as you indicated:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. God bless.
My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
So why do you think the Ravens decided to pay Henry $20,000,000 for 2-years if they could have gotten the same production from Gus Edwards for $6,000,000 over 2-years?
Not poking, I respect your opinion I am just wondering why you might think the Ravens did that if they plan on giving Henry the same touches they were giving the old guy who already knows the offense.
The same reason 100s of teams have overpaid for players. The same reason the commanders gave Haynesworth a record-breaking contract, the same reason NE overpaid wrs a couple of years back, the same reason it has happened over and over again. They are guessing in a flawed process in a competitive market.
Josh Norman got 75 million
coby fleener got 40 million
Andre Johnson got a huge contract from the colts (in a very similar situation as an over 30 over the hill star)
Demarco Murray got 40 million from the eagles
So yes the same reason as all those other contracts
I can dig it. Thank you for your response. I personally thing you could average 4 YPC in that offense, but as you indicated.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. God bless.
For sure...like i said earlier its mostly a guessing game but an over 30 rb with a ton of tread on the tires is a massive warning sign for me (especially because his stats look like he is wearing down). He had 3 good games last year and probably 10 duds...
If he's there is some of the middle rounds then maybe but I'll let someone else jump early because henry + ravens
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In redraft I would be shocked if he makes it past the late 2nd once we’re fully into hype SZN.
Then you'll be correct on your prediction.My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
He needs the carries to get rolling like so many backs from prior eras.
Your stats are shifted favorably and not sincere. Second in the NFL is something. Any human would have less after a 2000 yard season but don't forget he had about 8-900 when he got hurt- for the first time. It took other backs weeks to pass him.
He's atypical and that's what people that haven't enjoyed him in FF have not admitted since he was drafted. He's simply different so it's best to step back n drink it all in. Once ya start nitpicking you would have hurt your FF team for his whole career really.
Oh i agree...i think the ravens fan in my league takes him in the 1st. I think will happen lots because henry + ravens
Then you'll be correct on your prediction.My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
He needs the carries to get rolling like so many backs from prior eras.
Your stats are shifted favorably and not sincere. Second in the NFL is something. Any human would have less after a 2000 yard season but don't forget he had about 8-900 when he got hurt- for the first time. It took other backs weeks to pass him.
He's atypical and that's what people that haven't enjoyed him in FF have not admitted since he was drafted. He's simply different so it's best to step back n drink it all in. Once ya start nitpicking you would have hurt your FF team for his whole career really.
What do you mean my stats are not sincere? He had a great week 1 last year and then only 3 100 yard games after that. His ypc has declined every year for the last 4 years.
He may be the freak that breaks all the rules but I won't be on it for sure. I'll let someone else take the risk. I'd rather have Mitchell in the middle rounds
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My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
So why do you think the Ravens decided to pay Henry $20,000,000 for 2-years if they could have gotten the same production from Gus Edwards for $6,000,000 over 2-years?
Not poking, I respect your opinion I am just wondering why you might think the Ravens did that if they plan on giving Henry the same touches they were giving the old guy who already knows the offense.
The same reason 100s of teams have overpaid for players. The same reason the commanders gave Haynesworth a record-breaking contract, the same reason NE overpaid wrs a couple of years back, the same reason it has happened over and over again. They are guessing in a flawed process in a competitive market.
Josh Norman got 75 million
coby fleener got 40 million
Andre Johnson got a huge contract from the colts (in a very similar situation as an over 30 over the hill star)
Demarco Murray got 40 million from the eagles
So yes the same reason as all those other contracts
I can dig it. Thank you for your response. I personally thing you could average 4 YPC in that offense, but as you indicated.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. God bless.
For sure...like i said earlier its mostly a guessing game but an over 30 rb with a ton of tread on the tires is a massive warning sign for me (especially because his stats look like he is wearing down). He had 3 good games last year and probably 10 duds...
If he's there is some of the middle rounds then maybe but I'll let someone else jump early because henry + ravens
I agree with you, any other RB over 30 and I'd be running for the hills. Maybe I'm naive, but I think Henry's size at 245 lbs will allow him to age more gracefully, if anyone is an outlier it's that guy.
But you're right, he could get injured Week 1 like Aaron Rodgers did and none of us should be surprised. The list of productive 30 year RB is a short one. You're right for being cautious, history says that's the correct move.
I guess we'll wait and see, I own dude in dynasty so I am definitely biased.
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My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Oh the 'let's trust the team because they are paying' argument does not hold a lot of weight. I have heard that over a 1000 times on this board for plenty of players that ended up getting way more than they worth
That being said you can draft him high and I'll wait until the later rounds to see if he's available. Beauty of fantasy football
I'm not touching an over 30 rb
So why do you think the Ravens decided to pay Henry $20,000,000 for 2-years if they could have gotten the same production from Gus Edwards for $6,000,000 over 2-years?
Not poking, I respect your opinion I am just wondering why you might think the Ravens did that if they plan on giving Henry the same touches they were giving the old guy who already knows the offense.
The same reason 100s of teams have overpaid for players. The same reason the commanders gave Haynesworth a record-breaking contract, the same reason NE overpaid wrs a couple of years back, the same reason it has happened over and over again. They are guessing in a flawed process in a competitive market.
Josh Norman got 75 million
coby fleener got 40 million
Andre Johnson got a huge contract from the colts (in a very similar situation as an over 30 over the hill star)
Demarco Murray got 40 million from the eagles
So yes the same reason as all those other contracts
I can dig it. Thank you for your response. I personally thing you could average 4 YPC in that offense, but as you indicated.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. God bless.
For sure...like i said earlier its mostly a guessing game but an over 30 rb with a ton of tread on the tires is a massive warning sign for me (especially because his stats look like he is wearing down). He had 3 good games last year and probably 10 duds...
If he's there is some of the middle rounds then maybe but I'll let someone else jump early because henry + ravens
I agree with you, any other RB over 30 and I'd be running for the hills. Maybe I'm naive, but I think Henry's size at 245 lbs will allow him to age more gracefully, if anyone is an outlier it's that guy.
But you're right, he could get injured Week 1 like Aaron Rodgers did and none of us should be surprised. The list of productive 30 year RB is a short one. You're right for being cautious, history says that's the correct move.
I guess we'll wait and see, I own dude in dynasty so I am definitely biased.
First this is the nicest conversation i think I have ever had on this board so thank you for that. You are clearly a good dude
On Henry I actually think the opposite of you. The big frame is a lot to carry around and you add in all the up the middle carries and I think it's actually a detriment to him. I've never seen an analysis but it often felt like the really big backs like this fade to obscurity faster...
Henry has already been the freak of doing this longer than most of the big backs. I love the guy keep in mind. One of my fav players
Okoye? Very few big backs or bruising backs have ever had his ability to turn on the jets. It's not fair to Edwards. He was fine and did the dirty work fine.My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
I agree that would be the conventional thinking, but Gus Edwards got 810 yards rushing and 13 TD last year. The guy they just let walk to pay this guy more money.
I think you have to ignore the numbers and trust the Ravens on this one. They're paying Henry more this year than the Chargers are paying Gus Edwards over the next two. Also, I don't think you pay a guy 10 million a year to only give him 15 touches a game.
More concerned with Dobbins than Mitchell but that's a different conversation.
Henry doesn't just run through the line but he hits back with his shoulder and he stiff arms. It's widely noted how not only his stats are great but defenders get worn down.
Some of Spears runs, some of AJBs short catch n runs, some of....were because Henry wore that team down.
IIRC Jalen Ramsey was smashed at the GL by Henry in embarrassed fashion, then the Titans went after him and he had one of his worst games ever.
There's a mental aspect to tackling the big fella too.
The Ravens are already a tough team known throughout the league for it. Them adding a big hitter will be a topic all season- no doubt
I explained and there's a whole thread here with stats.Then you'll be correct on your prediction.My Deuce Vaughn stock just gained 200%
Gonna offer him up for a 2039 15th round pick.
Edit: Sorry, saw all the Dallas talk and was thinking this was Pollard's thread.
Sorry! My fault, as for Derrick Henry I am 90% sure he's going to Baltimore and he'll fit like a glove the same way Anquan Boldin did.
Now that this is official, let's unpack it a little bit. Gus Edwards averages 5 YPC in this offense and frequently punched it in the end zone. I am away from my computer so I don't have Gus' exact TD stats memorized.
At the least, I think we can all agree he's just as good as Gus Edward so that's his floor. For projections, I think you take what Gus has done and slap an extra 25% on top as just a baseline. I think D Henry will push for a potential career year.
Mobile QBs drastically improved RB performance in most situations. Chris Johnson doesn't rush for 2,000 yards without the threat of Vince Young tucking and running. Less dudes in the box, etc.
My gut says 1,350 rushing with 15 touchdowns. I think Henry has just enough juice and that scheme should be productive enough to elevate him to the player he was 2-4 years ago. It's arguably the best situation in the league for any RB. Just gotta hope he doesn't catch the injury bug, but his physicality is exactly what the Ravens' culture is built on. Perfect fit. I hope he retires a Raven.
He's over 30 with declining ypc every year for the last 4 years coming from an offense that was built around him.
I think he rarely if ever sees more than 15 touches per game with Mitchell seeing quite a few touches. I think he's lucky to 1000 yards this year with maybe 10 tds.
He needs the carries to get rolling like so many backs from prior eras.
Your stats are shifted favorably and not sincere. Second in the NFL is something. Any human would have less after a 2000 yard season but don't forget he had about 8-900 when he got hurt- for the first time. It took other backs weeks to pass him.
He's atypical and that's what people that haven't enjoyed him in FF have not admitted since he was drafted. He's simply different so it's best to step back n drink it all in. Once ya start nitpicking you would have hurt your FF team for his whole career really.
What do you mean my stats are not sincere? He had a great week 1 last year and then only 3 100 yard games after that. His ypc has declined every year for the last 4 years.
He may be the freak that breaks all the rules but I won't be on it for sure. I'll let someone else take the risk. I'd rather have Mitchell in the middle rounds
