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RB Derrick Henry, BAL (3 Viewers)

Traded Him and Alshon for Juju.

Still wondering if I should be bashing my head against the wall.

I loved what I saw from Henry last year, but Mariota is ###. He cant get the ball downfield. 

 

 
Kwai Chang Caine said:
Wait until they get Lluellen (sp?) back.
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After watching that o-line be a complete sieve last night, especially Dennis Kelly who is filling in for Lewan at LT, will be a huge upgrade.

That said, they had plenty of talent already in Saffold and Conklin. Jags are really good up front, but thought they would better hold the line and create push.

 
Football Jones said:
What I don't get is I believe I heard he was the top FF RB since week 10 of last season (not counting this week). Don't quote me on that, but if Henry isn't #1, he's certainly way up there. Anyway, I'm not sure how you can look at how he's produced since becoming the starter & not rank him top-10. Henry was criminally undervalued coming into this season. It was puzzling.

Right now, Henry should be a consensus top-10 RB easy. And for those of us that play in non-PPR leagues, he's certainly got the potential to finish top-5. The crazy part is Henry has a LOT of headroom left, mostly from increased touches.
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You're close, but it looks like he's #2 behind CMC over that span.  Right around one point ahead of Barkley.

I thought he looked like complete ### last night and his fantasy line was salvaged by the rather meaningless TD.  But it still counts for 10.6 points overall.

 
tangfoot said:
You're close, but it looks like he's #2 behind CMC over that span.  Right around one point ahead of Barkley.

I thought he looked like complete ### last night and his fantasy line was salvaged by the rather meaningless TD.  But it still counts for 10.6 points overall.
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That's in PPR, correct? Henry has to be #1 in non-PPR then. Pretty impressive.

You thought he looked bad last night? I disagree, but obviously a rather pedestrian FF game.

 
Derrick Henry rushed 27 times for 100 yards in Tennessee's Week 4 win over the Falcons.

Henry chipped away in the second half, piling on runs of 15, 13, and five yards as the Titans took a 24-7 lead into the third quarter and never looked back. Many have regarded Henry as a committee back with teammate Dion Lewis, but the former's still handled at least 15 carries in every outing — Week 3's blowout included — through Tennessee's first four contests. If the Titans are able to muster any type of offensive production against Buffalo in Week 5, it'll have to be on the back of Henry's legs. Start him with confidence as an RB2 next Sunday.

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Derrick Henry rushed 20 times for 78 yards and a touchdown in Week 5 against Buffalo.

Henry had just five carries for 27 yards at halftime. He struggled on a per-play basis, but Henry converted a goal-line carry for the Titans' only touchdown. Tennessee's offensive line failed to create holes for Henry despite getting LT Taylor Lewan back this week, but they should be better moving forward. Henry will be an RB1 option against a bottom-five Broncos run defense in Week 6.
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Respectable, if not excitable, performance.

Thought this line would be solid with Lewan back. Hopefully they just needed a game to gel, not an ongoing issue (O line in TEN has been variable so far this year).

Put you will take >75 yards and a TD from a starting fantasy back any given Sunday.

 
Derrick Henry totaled 28 yards on 15 carries while adding one catch for five yards on three targets Sunday in Tennesee’s Week 6 loss to Denver.

Henry was all sizzle and no steak Sunday, plodding his way to a brutal 1.87 yards per attempt while establishing new season-lows in both rushing yards, yards from scrimmage and touches. His longest run of the day spanned all of six yards. The contract-year workhorse hasn't moved the needle much recently, stumbling to a feeble 3.16 yards per carry over his last four contests. Henry is getting the usage we desire, but his efficiency has been lacking to say the least. Perhaps he'll fare better when the Chargers come to town in Week 7.
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I’m interested to see the offense with Tannehill starting.  He seemed a little better as a passer than Mariota.  
 

Henry has nowhere to run. 

 
Derrick Henry rushed 22 times for 90 yards and one touchdown in the Titans' Week 7 win over the Chargers.

It was a classic Henry performance. He was picking up consistent four-yard runs before scoring a red zone touchdown in the second half. That score was just enough for the Titans to hold onto the win with the Chargers fumbling the game-winning carry with seven seconds left. Henry has at least 15 carries in all six games this season and is seeing a high share of the team's red zone looks. His weekly touchdown projection is amongst the best at the position, making him an RB1/2 most weeks. The Titans will host the Bucs in Week 8.

Oct 20, 2019, 7:33 PM ET
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Digging into the game stats, I was surprised to see how tough the Bucs defense is to run on.

The top rusher against them this year is Kamara with 62 yards.

Ive had Henry as an auto start every week. And likely will roll him out again this week, but with some rising bench stars that are hitting it will be a tougher call.

 
VikingFrog said:
Digging into the game stats, I was surprised to see how tough the Bucs defense is to run on.

The top rusher against them this year is Kamara with 62 yards.

Ive had Henry as an auto start every week. And likely will roll him out again this week, but with some rising bench stars that are hitting it will be a tougher call.
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I could flex him out for Mixon 🤢 or Sutton....

TB is tough on the run but few players are more likely to cash in a TD then Henry. All it takes is one PI and you have a shot at a one yard TD. Just going against Winston is also likely to set Tennessee up with favorable field position. I don’t think we overthink this. Keep,him in.

 
VikingFrog said:
Digging into the game stats, I was surprised to see how tough the Bucs defense is to run on.

The top rusher against them this year is Kamara with 62 yards.

Ive had Henry as an auto start every week. And likely will roll him out again this week, but with some rising bench stars that are hitting it will be a tougher call.
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Just a thought, but are teams really making a concerted effort to run it? Logic says you attack the other team's weakness, and it would appear to be the Bucs vs. the pass. Like you, I've been starting Henry every week and been pleased with the results for the most part, but his lack of passing game volume makes him a risk when he plays a stout run defense. If I don't play him, my other options are Royce Freeman, Jordan Howard, Lat Murray and (guh) Damien Williams. All of them likely project to be under 10 pts in a non-PPR, especially Murray if Kamara is back.

 
Deciding between 2 of 3 myself - PPR - Henry/OBJ/Chubb- NE isn't a good matchup.

Just traded for him in redraft (Henry/OBJ for Arob/Coleman)

 
Amused to Death said:
I've been starting him every week along with Carson. This might be the first week I sit him (for Jacobs).
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In a 14-team league, Carson and Henry are my RB1 and RB2. Both to me are must starts every week despite how stout the run D is.

I am not expecting a big game, but I am expecting his usual volume -- 20+ carries. And with volume comes those churning yards and a chance to rip a 20+ run, which Henry has the ability to do if his line gives him a hole.

It is true that Henry to date hasn't faced the toughest run Ds, but he did well against the 10th ranked run D BUF (20/78/1) a few weeks ago.

I would not be averse to starting Jacobs over Henry -- Jacobs is up against HOU is also a stout D. Coin toss IMHO.

 
Derrick Henry rushed 13 times for 63 yards and a touchdown in the Titans' Week 9 loss to the Panthers, adding three receptions for 36 additional yards and a score.

In one of the more bizarre developments of the year, Henry touched the ball just two times in the first half, watching helplessly as the Titans fell behind 17-0. He was then #established after the break to his usual effect, but it was too little, too late on the road. Henry's receiving score was a 23-yard screen where he found the edge. His rushing, an eight-yard pile driver. Today's first half notwithstanding, Henry's usage/touch totals have been as consistent as any back's in the league. A date with the Chiefs' soft run defense is on deck for Week 10.

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If I read one more expert say this guy is inefficient and can’t be trusted to keep this up, I’m going to scream. Loving the late 3rd rounder I spent on him. Too bad he has to sit next week but at least he can get some rest for the stretch run.

 
Moved Allen Robinson for him in dynasty the other day and there were mixed reviews in the trade thread, understandably. 

I'm happy with it so far.

 
BigBlue_RI said:
If I read one more expert say this guy is inefficient and can’t be trusted to keep this up, I’m going to scream. Loving the late 3rd rounder I spent on him. Too bad he has to sit next week but at least he can get some rest for the stretch run.
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Henry owns the main cog in this offense, and we see the top end every so often.

 
dipandglide said:
The floor makes me uneasy. Still, it’s hard to not trot him out there with confidence when he can win weeks for you.
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What floor makes you uneasy?

Every league is different in terms of scoring, but he hasn't been under 10 points in mine except for two weeks. Even with those 2 subpar weeks, he's averaged over 17 points for me.

I LOVE his floor -- great volume, little competition. And the ceiling that comes with it is fantastic.

He's a top 10 back this year in all formats. There is no reason why you should ever think of sitting him. 

 
Still leads the NFL in rushing since his breakout. Still faces more 8 men in the box than most. 

 
tombonneau said:
His usage to start his career will go down as one of the NFL's great mysteries. 
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Year two was supposed to be him and DeMarco takes a back seat. This was a mistake. Murray was a very good third down back and his whole career people kept forecasting him there from the moment he was drafted. When he left TEN, he wanted too much money and turned down offers for a year only to find out that year off would cost him and his career would be over. Murray wouldn't take less from TEN- he loved it there and often spoke of it. He would have done Dion Lewis' role very well and even filled in at WR. He took such a quick fall from grace.

Year one, Murray was awesome. He was near the top in the NFL in rushing. Henry needed to learn how to pickup the blitz and his feet were awful on screens. His biggest issue though was he could always run somewhat casually and get yards. This wouldn't work in the NFL. Henry worked with Eddie George many times and the two of them became friends. Last year, when he struggled early, it was a meeting with Eddie that got him running harder but still not right. The Titans brought back his college FB and the light went off for him.

The Titans have had awesome OL coaches and in between seems to be such struggles. Henry has had to run with little help from his line in a way that only so many backs in history have. To understand Henry's plight, you've gotta realize how many times he's been stuffed, how many times he's had 8 men in the box, how many missed tackles, how he's led the NFL in 4th Q rushing since maybe year two, and how many opportunities were wasted because they tried so hard to establish the passing game.

If we're getting near a year since his breakout and he still leads the NFL in rushing since then, what's it going to be like if he runs for a team with a genuine passing threat and a good offensive line? He's gonna make some $ this offseason as a free agent.  After dominating college, he fell to the second round, he's going to make big $ for the first time. He never complains. He trains as hard as anyone and is an adonis. His offseason routine includes traveling to teammates homes and running with them and not taking no for an answer followed by eating somewhere healthy that he scouted out before he arrived. Eddie has been known to join him on some of these trips too. What team wouldn't want him? That'll be more of a question. I love this guy and the Titans are going to be such fools if they watch him walk away.

 
If I'm henry I'm fighting like hell to go to a new team next year that actually has an offense.  With today's attitude towards RBS I wonder where that would be though

 
Leroy Hoard said:
The good thing about his under usage early in his career is he now has more thread on his tires. 
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Are these tires made by a seamstress?

I wish they’d use him in the first half more. If I’m not mistaken, which I may have been as I was wrestling an 18 month old, They showed a stat yesterday that every single one of his TDs has come in the second half this year.

Edit, that is already not true because I only had to look up his first game for a 2nd quarter score. But his first half to second half stats were black and white.

 
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need2know said:
If I'm henry I'm fighting like hell to go to a new team next year that actually has an offense.  With today's attitude towards RBS I wonder where that would be though
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A few years ago that would make sense but right now he is being used as a true RB1 and the OL is built for running.  To me the Titans right now are a very good fit.  Yes, it would be nice if he were thrown to a bit more but the volume of carries he gets consistently and GL opportunities is very good.

 
az_prof said:
A few years ago that would make sense but right now he is being used as a true RB1 and the OL is built for running.  To me the Titans right now are a very good fit.  Yes, it would be nice if he were thrown to a bit more but the volume of carries he gets consistently and GL opportunities is very good.
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The QB change this off season could be very beneficial to the whole team.

 
Henry's next upgrade will come by way of more work as a pass-catcher. Lots of ways to use him there.

Talent-wise, Henry is a top-5 RB. Tannehill is helping a bunch, but we may just be seeing the tip of the iceberg.

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
What floor makes you uneasy?

Every league is different in terms of scoring, but he hasn't been under 10 points in mine except for two weeks. Even with those 2 subpar weeks, he's averaged over 17 points for me.

I LOVE his floor -- great volume, little competition. And the ceiling that comes with it is fantastic.

He's a top 10 back this year in all formats. There is no reason why you should ever think of sitting him. 
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I play almost exclusively in PPR leagues. Check out his stat lines when he isn't getting into the endzone. It's not pretty. 

He's agreat as an RB2. I'd be hesitant trotting him out there as my RB1 in PPR. 

 
Henry is less of an asset in PPR, but he's got headroom. Henry is a decent pass-catcher & is really difficult to tackle when he's in space against a smaller defender. I expect his usage to grow in that area.

BTW, I think of things through a non-PPR lens out of habit. FF, in general, would be better off if we didn't give a point for simply catching a pass. Yards & TDs are the only things that matter.

 
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dipandglide said:
I play almost exclusively in PPR leagues. Check out his stat lines when he isn't getting into the endzone. It's not pretty. 

He's agreat as an RB2. I'd be hesitant trotting him out there as my RB1 in PPR. 
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Me, too. But his stat lines in the 3 out of 10 games this year that he hasn't gotten into the endzone aren't so terrible, with one exception:

27 carries 100 yards 1 catch 8 yards (11.8 FPs)

15 carries 28 yards 1 catch 5 yards (4.3 FPs)

16 carries 75 yards 1 catch 8 yards (9.3 FPs)

It's not great but if this is his floor I'll take it. 

If you want to include the 4 games of his breakout last season (when they started treating him like a workhorse), that is just 4 out of 14 games that he has failed to score a TD, and that 4th game was

16 carries 93 yards 1 catch 13 yards (11.6 FPs)

So the *not pretty* floor in 4/14 games has been 9.25 FPG

Anything before the decision to make him the workhorse is largely irrelevant.

 
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