The negativity towards Lindsay is probably overboard but I can see where it comes from and am victim to it too. A struggling offense brings in an uninspiring vet QB, an unready rookie QB, a defensively oriented head coach, one of the best pass catching backs in the league (even if he is a complete 0 as a runner), and his running mate (who was drafted in the same year in the 3rd and was touted as a 3 down back) has been built up all summer while metrics show that he was a better runner in some respects. Narrative street beats up everyone. I don’t think the consensus is higher on Singletary than Lindsay but those in love with him like myself are probably keenly focused on the fact that none of his “competition” is going to be on the roster next year
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RB Devin Singletary, NYG (7 Viewers)
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ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
None of his current competition. But they easily could bring in their RB of the future out of the 2020 draft. Singletary has opportunity in front of him, but his measurables were pretty bad. Doesnt doom him to failure by any means, but I would have liked to see something good come out of his combine. It was awful. Below the 21st percentile on every measurable other than broad jump (41) and vertical jump (57). Really uninspiring numbers.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/devin-singletary
His combine was abysmal. Unbelievably so. The best part is that anyone who watched tape on him, or even the limited amount we saw in game 1 here, can tell you that his combine measurables don’t match his play whatsoever. His long speed wasn’t special but his vision was good (as good as it could be with one of the worst o-lines in the country) and his agility and contact balance are elite. And the Bills still saw fit to take him in the 3rd, that is pretty solid draft capital.
Yes, they could take someone next year but that capital plus the contract situations of all others involved show that they would like him to be the guy and will likely give him a shot to do it. The only thing better would be for him to be walking into the job with no competition. That type of situation is a big opportunity and could give you great returns on investment if you buy into the player. I’m fine if others aren’t convinced yet, I am and there’s usually a couple guys in each league who are at this point
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
He's a really interesting use case. He was drafted one pick after David Montgomery in the nfl draft and is walking into a situation with just as much opportunity and less long term competition. Yet Montgomery is a top 4 rookie pick while up until a few weeks ago you could almost get Singletary in the 3rd.
Prior to the combine there was a pretty large contingent of people that rated Singletary as a better prospect than Montgomery so this is really a massive reaction to the combine.
I think even if you're not sold on the guy there will be some point this year where you can sell him for a pretty good return. As we get further from the combine and his opportunity/ability becomes more apparent then unless he completely bombs he should have a nice sell window at the very least.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Well he has good power and catches pretty well. He had a slick over the shoulder catch in the most recent pre-season game. I'm still waiting to witness this alleged elusiveness in an NFL game. So far he looks to be a decent back, meanwhile Sanders and Montgomery demonstrate they might be special.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
McCoy and Gore played ahead of him with the 1st team. Gore looks washed still but McCoy had some juice left.
zamboni
Footballguy
Despite the TD, not a good sign for Singletary’s early season usage getting one carry last night and the vets ahead of him looking sharp.
Then again, we knew he would be stuck until one of the vets got hurt and/or the team fell out of contention early.
Then again, we knew he would be stuck until one of the vets got hurt and/or the team fell out of contention early.
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Steel Curtainrod
Footballguy
Without knowing much about his draft profile, I grabbed him in a July rookie draft w this in mind. If they don't take RB early in 2020, he'll be in a great spot in an emerging offense AND he could be gold 2nd half of this season. His road to success isn't as long as it may seem
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Dynasy rookie draft.
I'm in.
>>> WATCH: Devin Singletary scores first career TD vs. Lions
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Devin Singletary scores first career TD vs. Lions
Buffalo Bills RB:
I'm in.
>>> WATCH: Devin Singletary scores first career TD vs. Lions---------
Devin Singletary scores first career TD vs. Lions
NFL TEAM DEPTH CHARTS
Buffalo Bills RB:
- LeSean McCoy, DOB 7/12/1988 (31)
- Frank Gore, DOB 5/14/1983 (36)
- Devin Singletary, DOB 9/3/1997 (21)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’ve read recent speculation that one reason for this may be to showcase McCoy for a trade & not risk injury to their young RB in meaningless games.
I have a feeling Singletary will be starting in Buffalo at some point this year. If not sooner then later.
Kid’s a beast & he’s got a geriatric ward ahead of him on the depth chart. 31 & 36?
Yeah - glad I drafted him. We’ll see what happens.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Same. I’m a huge fan. His is the only jersey handing in my closet.
Love the dude. But he old AF.
Sooner or later. Singletary is gonna be the man.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Hendro was taken right before but I had already made up my mind.
Henderson should have a clear opportunity this year but for dynasty I prefer Singletary.
Gore is a guy that everyone loves and he's played incredible and longer than anyone could have expected but his is 36.
LeSean is 31 and he has looked great but I saw this from only a few days ago that speculates he could be moved if a team suffered an injury, like the one to Lamar Miller.
Buffalo Bills training camp 2019: These 40 players are on the roster bubble
Gore will eventually hit the walll. LeSean is over 30 coming off injury with 'rumors' of him 'possibly' being highlighted for trade.
Is it possible that Zay Jones and LeSean McCoy are battling for Buffalo Bills roster spots?
Singletary has a nose for the endzone. He's short but solid with a forward lean. I just like him and see him getting a shot at the starting job by next year if not sooner.
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packer_junkie
Footballguy
Is Singleterry really THAT good or is this a case where hes going to splash a little bit in a time share than be a compliment to a top 3-4 RB in next years class?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter
Surprise cut: Bills are releasing LeSean McCoy, per source.
6:36 AM - 31 Aug 2019
Surprise cut: Bills are releasing LeSean McCoy, per source.
6:36 AM - 31 Aug 2019
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Best news possible for Singletary.
someone in my league just grabbed Gore so I figured this would be today’s news.
i expected Gore to be cut.
As a Duke shareholder i sure hope the Texans aren’t interested in McCoy. That’d be a wet blanket.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wow, this is happening faster than I dared to hope. I DID build the potential of this scenario into Singletary's value--I made him one of my rare overpays this offseason by dealing Drake for him and got killed for it--but I imagined it might take some time if the Bills couldn't find a trade partner for McCoy.
The fact that they said "#### it" and straight up cut him when they couldn't trade him shows how much they like and trust Singletary--and Gore keeps compiling, baby.
The fact that they said "#### it" and straight up cut him when they couldn't trade him shows how much they like and trust Singletary--and Gore keeps compiling, baby.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
What a happy day!
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Evan SilvaVerified account @evansilva
Devin Singletary gets big bump after Shady McCoy release but is now a candidate to be over-drafted in #fantasyfootball. * Limited pass-catching resume & offense not conducive to RB catches * Frank Gore will get work * TJ Yeldon (best receiving RB on roster) still there, for now
7:03 AM - 31 Aug 2019
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NFL TEAM DEPTH CHARTS
Buffalo Bills RB:
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LeSean McCoy
- Frank Gore (36 years old)
- Devin Singletary
- T.J. Yeldon
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m gonna go ahead and anoint Singletary a RB2 out of the gate.Evan SilvaVerified account @evansilva
Devin Singletary gets big bump after Shady McCoy release but is now a candidate to be over-drafted in #fantasyfootball. * Limited pass-catching resume & offense not conducive to RB catches * Frank Gore will get work * TJ Yeldon (best receiving RB on roster) still there, for now
7:03 AM - 31 Aug 2019
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NFL TEAM DEPTH CHARTS
Buffalo Bills RB:
LeSean McCoy
- Frank Gore (36 years old)
- Devin Singletary
- T.J. Yeldon
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
If you didn't buy before today, it's too late now. He'll be the starter and get 50%+ of the touches IMO.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Singletary will be the lead back. Yeldon and Gore will rotate in some, but I expect Singletary to get the bulk of the work. The Bills love him.
And despite what Silva says, Singletary can catch the ball and I expect the Bills to do a bit more throwing to RBs this year, especially with Beasley being able to suck up LBers and safeties across the middle and the Bills having TEs that can contribute a lot more than last year.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Updated look at the Bills' offense without LeSean McCoy
Mike Clay projection shows Singletary as the lead back.
Click above link for graph.
Mike Clay projection shows Singletary as the lead back.
Click above link for graph.
RBM
Footballguy
This is quite the bad take by Silva. Granted it was preseason but Singletary was one of the best receiving backs of the preseason on a per touch and per route run basis. His limited pass catching resume is lack of opportunity, not ability. If he wanted to assert that Yeldon was better as a pass catcher, fine, that is a difficult stance to argue against based on the limited sample we’ve seen. But Singletary can do it. Gore and Singletary are a straight split RBBC at this point for early down work and 3rd down is probably also an even split RBBC between Singletary and Yeldon. This is great for Singletary.Evan SilvaVerified account @evansilva
Devin Singletary gets big bump after Shady McCoy release but is now a candidate to be over-drafted in #fantasyfootball. * Limited pass-catching resume & offense not conducive to RB catches * Frank Gore will get work * TJ Yeldon (best receiving RB on roster) still there, for now
7:03 AM - 31 Aug 2019
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NFL TEAM DEPTH CHARTS
Buffalo Bills RB:
LeSean McCoy
- Frank Gore (36 years old)
- Devin Singletary
- T.J. Yeldon
Also, based on the preseason, Yeldon should’ve been cut because he was awful
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Its not a bad take, it is accurate. He is limited as a pass receiver. He did not say he's bad, he accurately said limited. People have to chill and just acknowledge accurate analysis even if they just drafted RB Devin Singletary in the first round of their rookie/dynasty draft as I did and I got crap for it but I saw the opportunity and am fine with what Silva said because it is accurate. I love the limited amount I saw of Singletary's receiving ability but their is no doubt about it, his resume is limited but its ok because he's a rookie RB just coming into the league.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Having a limited resume is not the same thing as being "limited". I think it's fine to acknowledge and disagree on that.
There’s nothing accurate about taking only part of the picture and speaking as an expert because of it. His preseason work is part of his resume now. Call it small sample but nothing about his pass catching ability was limited.
JackReacher
Footballguy
Steel Curtainrod
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He was my 20th round pick in my IDP PPR. Dart throw, but since I went WR/WR/WR I knew I’d have to stack up - dion Lewis, Singletary, DThompson. Wouldn’t mind DThompson ascending to #1 as well, but one day at a time. First lotto ticket to cash right there. Gore is 137 years old & Yeldon is not good at football.
Steel Curtainrod
Footballguy
Just be prepared to wait until about week six on Singletary.He was my 20th round pick in my IDP PPR. Dart throw, but since I went WR/WR/WR I knew I’d have to stack up - dion Lewis, Singletary, DThompson. Wouldn’t mind DThompson ascending to #1 as well, but one day at a time. First lotto ticket to cash right there. Gore is 137 years old & Yeldon is not good at football.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Nah - FF RB2 out of the gate. Optimism!
lol - Fortunately I’ve got Carson/Monty to hold down the fort at RB & Lockett as a flex. As long as Singletary is the man by week 8 I’m good.
A. They were showcasing McCoy in that game
B. 1 touch = 1TD
Singletary will lead the league with 150 TDs this year
Milkman
Footballguy
Picked him up in 2 out of 4 leagues. Lolol missed by an hour this morning in one and already owned in my dynasty.He was my 20th round pick in my IDP PPR. Dart throw, but since I went WR/WR/WR I knew I’d have to stack up - dion Lewis, Singletary, DThompson. Wouldn’t mind DThompson ascending to #1 as well, but one day at a time. First lotto ticket to cash right there. Gore is 137 years old & Yeldon is not good at football.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
That's preseason. There's basically no doubt in my mind that Singletary will be the Bills leading rusher this season. All that remains to be determined is how the committee workload is divided.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Singletary was surprisingly (to me) what seemed to be significantly involved in the passing offense this preseason
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I should add that I definitely expect Singletary to be the goaline back. Go watch his college highlight videos.
He doesn't have too end speed so you're not going to see 80 yard TD runs from him. But he has tremendous vision, patience and balance. He finds the smallest creases, gets skinny though the hole, and runs through arm tackles. He was a TD machine in college because of those skills and I expect the Bills to view and use him in the same way.
He doesn't have too end speed so you're not going to see 80 yard TD runs from him. But he has tremendous vision, patience and balance. He finds the smallest creases, gets skinny though the hole, and runs through arm tackles. He was a TD machine in college because of those skills and I expect the Bills to view and use him in the same way.
