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RB Tyrone Tracy Jr., NYG (3 Viewers)

Put in the work (walk the walk):

Tyrone Tracy training with Eagles' Saquon Barkley​

Good choice to get better. To be his best, have to learn from the best.


And of course the obligatory fluff prediction (talk the talk):

Tyrone Tracy shooting for 1,500 rushing yards this season​

He also wanted 12 TDs. Not inconceivable if healthy since he needed 5ish weeks to become the starter. Stabilize the QB and OL positions. Perhaps 1500 combined yards instead of just rushing.


Luckily rookie fever is subsiding, otherwise the Skat lovers would be out in force saying their boo is getting fitted for the HOF jacket.
 
FantasyGuru24 said:
Any chance he can be a solid RB2 in the 13-15 range or is he a flex play at best with Skatteboo lurking?
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In my opinion, he is better than Skattebo. The team lacks playmakers and Tracy showed last season he is a playmaker.
However, that is also the reason why he won't be a 13-15 range RB. The team still isn't very good. Low end RB2 if the rest of your team is stacked.
 
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
 
steelcityman said:
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
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IMO absolutely wild take saying Tyrone Tracy's FLOOR is RB13-15. Like worst case scenario is he's RB13-15? He finished RB26 last season and they added competition in the draft. Are you sure you don't mean ceiling?
 
steelcityman said:
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
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Does anyone know how hard it is to actually clear 1,500 yds rush in the NFL?
2024 NFL Rushing Leaders....
Barkley 2,000+...on one of the best offenses in the NFL loaded with talent and is discussed as HoF level
Henry 1,900+...HoF RB, super talented QB that takes the pressure off



Lot of air between Henry and the next RB who btw DID NOT clear 1,500 yds rushing although the next couple come close...

Bijan 1,400...discussed as a phenom since he entered the NFL, he's a fajita to me, the sizzle/hype hasn't lived up quite to the production yet
J.Taylor 1,400...regarded as one of the best RB in the NFL but has been hit with injuries and then he was a holdout and had a fight with the now deceased owner
Jahmyr Gibbs 1,400 ...phenom and discussed as one of the most exciting RBs in the NFL

It's not personal and I appreciate your enthusiasm for Tracy, MOP had him on just about every redraft team last season although never drafted him in July/Aug, waivers a week or two ahead of when he finally started to evolve into the primary RB around Week 5. I have no delusions how lucky of a find he was last year. That said, 839 yds rush and 5 TDs from weeks 5-17, he's good but he's not a superstar IMHO, and we are dismissing the rookie RB-Skat a lot. You might not see much in Skat but you must understand that others do and he will see action, especially if he looks decent in preseason.

38/280 as a pass catcher, can't dismiss his versatility but I wouldn't assume he is going to clear 1,500 yds rushing

Good post SCM, I see your support for Tracy, just want to caution where we are going with the hype around him right now
 
Ministry of Pain said:
steelcityman said:
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
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Does anyone know how hard it is to actually clear 1,500 yds rush in the NFL?
2024 NFL Rushing Leaders....
Barkley 2,000+...on one of the best offenses in the NFL loaded with talent and is discussed as HoF level
Henry 1,900+...HoF RB, super talented QB that takes the pressure off



Lot of air between Henry and the next RB who btw DID NOT clear 1,500 yds rushing although the next couple come close...

Bijan 1,400...discussed as a phenom since he entered the NFL, he's a fajita to me, the sizzle/hype hasn't lived up quite to the production yet
J.Taylor 1,400...regarded as one of the best RB in the NFL but has been hit with injuries and then he was a holdout and had a fight with the now deceased owner
Jahmyr Gibbs 1,400 ...phenom and discussed as one of the most exciting RBs in the NFL

It's not personal and I appreciate your enthusiasm for Tracy, MOP had him on just about every redraft team last season although never drafted him in July/Aug, waivers a week or two ahead of when he finally started to evolve into the primary RB around Week 5. I have no delusions how lucky of a find he was last year. That said, 839 yds rush and 5 TDs from weeks 5-17, he's good but he's not a superstar IMHO, and we are dismissing the rookie RB-Skat a lot. You might not see much in Skat but you must understand that others do and he will see action, especially if he looks decent in preseason.

38/280 as a pass catcher, can't dismiss his versatility but I wouldn't assume he is going to clear 1,500 yds rushing

Good post SCM, I see your support for Tracy, just want to caution where we are going with the hype around him right now
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I was under the impression of 13-15 carries a game. I was thinking more usage than overall ranking.
Oh, I'm not on the 1500 bandwagon, doubt anyone is. I look at like 900 rushing and 400 receiving. How many TDs makes the difference on where he ends up on the ppg list.
I'd put him in 15-20 range, they added a guy in Skattebo, but Tracy basically didnt play the first 4 games last year. So factor that in too.

I saw this for his 2025 prediction: he can get around 1,300 total yards, 50 receptions and eight touchdowns. IMO, thats a great RB2 unless your team is garbage.
 
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steelcityman said:
Ministry of Pain said:
steelcityman said:
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
Click to expand...
Does anyone know how hard it is to actually clear 1,500 yds rush in the NFL?
2024 NFL Rushing Leaders....
Barkley 2,000+...on one of the best offenses in the NFL loaded with talent and is discussed as HoF level
Henry 1,900+...HoF RB, super talented QB that takes the pressure off



Lot of air between Henry and the next RB who btw DID NOT clear 1,500 yds rushing although the next couple come close...

Bijan 1,400...discussed as a phenom since he entered the NFL, he's a fajita to me, the sizzle/hype hasn't lived up quite to the production yet
J.Taylor 1,400...regarded as one of the best RB in the NFL but has been hit with injuries and then he was a holdout and had a fight with the now deceased owner
Jahmyr Gibbs 1,400 ...phenom and discussed as one of the most exciting RBs in the NFL

It's not personal and I appreciate your enthusiasm for Tracy, MOP had him on just about every redraft team last season although never drafted him in July/Aug, waivers a week or two ahead of when he finally started to evolve into the primary RB around Week 5. I have no delusions how lucky of a find he was last year. That said, 839 yds rush and 5 TDs from weeks 5-17, he's good but he's not a superstar IMHO, and we are dismissing the rookie RB-Skat a lot. You might not see much in Skat but you must understand that others do and he will see action, especially if he looks decent in preseason.

38/280 as a pass catcher, can't dismiss his versatility but I wouldn't assume he is going to clear 1,500 yds rushing

Good post SCM, I see your support for Tracy, just want to caution where we are going with the hype around him right now
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I was under the impression of 13-15 carries a game. I was thinking more usage than overall ranking.
Oh, I'm not on the 1500 bandwagon, doubt anyone is. I look at like 900 rushing and 400 receiving. How many TDs makes the difference on where he ends up on the ppg list.
I'd put him in 15-20 range, they added a guy in Skattebo, but Tracy basically didnt play the first 4 games last year. So factor that in too.

I saw this for his 2025 prediction: he can get around 1,300 total yards, 50 receptions and eight touchdowns. IMO, thats a great RB2 unless your team is garbage.
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Total Yards, yes he can definitely hit the numbers he cleared last season plus some more
I'm not that excited about the NYG but I am pretty sure their OL is on the rise not the decline, veteran QB and an overhyped WR entering Year 2
I think Nabers going in the 1st round of redrafts is highly risky
Tracy will likely be taken as an RB2 for most teams, he can hit the box many weeks with something like 13/60+ on the ground, 3/20+ rec, 15 touches, he saw 15-20 many weeks last year so this is not an overhyping of his skills. Touchdowns will be hard to predict but I think Tracy can work as part of a solid RB2 platoon.


Wait a second...
Tracy is RB35 right now? :oldunsure:
ADP 109th?

"Say we get into the draft and thru the security doors and down to the 9th/10th round and past the other owners loaded with all the same info we have and into the vault we can't even open...
Say we do all that, we're suppose to just walk out of there with 1,500 yards of offense without getting stopped?"

Shark Pool "Yeah"

MOP while taking an antacid "Oh, OK"
 
Opened up ESPN's draft rankings this weekend to start my pre-draft process:

* Skatabo: 85
* Tracy: 89

Tracy available in round 8?

This is one of the larger mis prices I see so far.
 
High end range of outcomes for Tracy is sort of the same story arc as Chuba Hubbard. Not a highly thought of prospect who's done a good job with opportunities despite being in a bad offense and his team investing draft capital in competition. If he smashes, he'll be a very good value (high to mid tier RB2) but there's a couple of trap doors here.

Cam is an excellent prospect in many ways and has a ton of overlap with the pass catching despite being a power back. Yes, he could be nothing (Corum) or he could be something. A nearly full takeover by Cam (as the lead back) is not out of the range of outcomes. And as acknowledged by everyone, 2025 NYG offense is not the 2024 DET offense.

There's a reason why Tracy's redraft price is what it is. I think if he's underpriced, it's not by much IMO. There's a 40-70 % chance (not including injury) that by the end of the season, he's not a lineup worthy asset. If they end up in a 50/50 split in a bad offense, he's going to be stapled to your bench and clogging your roster, waiting for an injury.
 
kyoun1e said:
JohnnyU said:
kyoun1e said:
Opened up ESPN's draft rankings this weekend to start my pre-draft process:

* Skatabo: 85
* Tracy: 89

Tracy available in round 8?

This is one of the larger mis prices I see so far.
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Yes, if you’re reliving 2024.
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Not a believe in Skatabo...

...yet.
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You may be on an island with very few people to discuss fantasy football with. My personal opinion of Skattebo is one of intrigue and wait and see.
 
Dez said:
travdogg said:
kyoun1e said:
Opened up ESPN's draft rankings this weekend to start my pre-draft process:

* Skatabo: 85
* Tracy: 89

Tracy available in round 8?

This is one of the larger mis prices I see so far.
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Honestly, I wouldn't want either at that price.
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Last year were you one that didn't want either Chase Brown or Moss at similar prices ?
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I had 2 Brown shares last year. Giants offense is a far cry from the Bengals offense.
 
steelcityman said:
I was under the impression of 13-15 carries a game. I was thinking more usage than overall ranking.
Oh, I'm not on the 1500 bandwagon, doubt anyone is. I look at like 900 rushing and 400 receiving. How many TDs makes the difference on where he ends up on the ppg list. I'd put him in 15-20 range, they added a guy in Skattebo, but Tracy basically didn't play the first 4 games last year. ... I saw this for his 2025 prediction: he can get around 1,300 total yards, 50 receptions and eight touchdowns. IMO, thats a great RB2 unless your team is garbage.
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Loved his situation & where I was able to get him last year. In my leagues Tracy is a late round keeper candidate this year. To me it's odd that Tracy's ADP is the reflection of a dysfunctional offense, yet 2nd year WR Malik Nabors is obviously going to blast off as he's the overall 8th selection at fantasypros.com. Now, Cam Skattebo has that work-pail mentality & toughness that the Northeast loves. Seems his certain threat is that of a short/GL vulture. I like them both but if they're going to struggle offensively as suggested, give me the down & distance guy.
 
Tracy is a value. However, even Saquon struggled in NY and this offense isn't any better now.

This offense needs playmakers and Tracy is that.
 
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