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Funny how fast the protocol happens when the game has playoff implications. Nothing to see here.
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RB Isiah Pacheco, KC (7 Viewers)
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Funny how fast the protocol happens when the game has playoff implications. Nothing to see here.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
Not to the Texans
Fishy.
Funny how fast the protocol happens when the game has playoff implications. Nothing to see here.
Very curious what the split will be with Pacheco vs. CEH today. Expect a huge bounce back get right game for KC.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
And Ive thought of that one, and maybe that's player associated as much as anything, because really that didn't look like much of anything when it happened, so credit to the team and stroud for sitting, I guess I should credit the independent neuro too but it does feel like they can strong arm these things through if they want
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
Yeah when Stroud said he had concussions before but
agree and very fishy it’s not like the NFL had earned anyone’s trust I think with stroud when he said he’s had concussions before but never hit head in concrete that was a bit alarming. If NFL cared they wouldn’t allow any surface like in Giants/Jets stadium.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I don’t. The Chiefs stink, plain and simple.Fishy.
Funny how fast the protocol happens when the game has playoff implications. Nothing to see here.
Very curious what the split will be with Pacheco vs. CEH today. Expect a huge bounce back get right game for KC.
They will be fortunate to make the dang playoffs at this point. This team is flat out cooked this year. As for relying on Pacheco or Helaire? Who the heck knows.
Andy Reid is so gosh danged stubborn he won’t deviate from his offense to actually use the personnel he HAS. It’s so stupid.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
Right now on my bench for Barkley. Zamir also on my bench. Not sure what to do here.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Depends on one’s options, I imagine. Hitting on Kyren Williams + McCaffery and Kamara staying healthy has given me the luxury to bench Pacheco today. Wouldn’t feel bad about starting him if my team were thinner—just got lucky this year.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Pacheco is slowly turning into a FF stud as Reid gives him more touches around the GL. He's also a good receiver.
Pretty high floor in that offense, as well, especially if he gets the majority of the pass-catching duties.
Pretty high floor in that offense, as well, especially if he gets the majority of the pass-catching duties.
ChiefD
Footballguy
My only real fear with him is he basically uses his body as a battering ram with no regard for himself. He's tough as hell but man I worry about concussions and such.
Football Jones
Footballguy
The only concussion I remember was the one when his helmet came off.
Pacheco is the type of runner who may not have a long career, but I noticed he's really flexible which helps prevent injury.
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Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Pacheco runs hard!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
“Like a kid in new shoes” is my favorite description.
I still don’t think Pacheco is a special talent - lacks top end speed, isn’t great in short yardage, not the best vision, takes what the OL gives him - but he’s good enough for what the Chiefs need, and for FF that’s pretty good.
I’d be careful as a buyer since the stars line uo this year what with McKinnon’s injuries, but if ya need a RB2 you could do worse.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
KC didn't draft a RB. How we feeling about this guy?
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
I have him around RB10 in both redraft and dynasty. His hard nosed style will likely cause a missed game or two, but on a PPG basis he should be up there. Kelce is another year older, and Rice may or may not miss time. They did add WRs but there is still a potential for a LOT of TDs for this offense.
Without too much thought I would say 1300 combined yards and 9-10 total TDs.
I'll go a little higher than that, as he's a rare 3-down RB, on maybe the best offense in the NFL.
I think something like 1500 combined yards and 12 TDs is reasonable. I have him as RB8, and he'll probably be more consistent than someone like Jahmyr Gibbs who I have slightly ahead of him, on the contingency of what could happen if Monty were to go down.
Non fantasy wise, I think he's a solid, but unspectacular RB, that being said, it sure seems like Reid loves him, and unlike say, James Cook, they aren't seemingly looking for ways to scale back his touches.
Dynasty I remain a little tepid on his long term prospects, maybe more then I should be, but can't help but continue to view him as year to year player.
He showed really well at end of last year but also was mightily aided by McKinnon going down.
I don't hate were he's going in startups right now, but would go in a different direction relative to his cost as I'm more into perceived safer long term investment. And again I can see where I could be wrong on his long term ability/staying power, someone can certainly start the case he's reasonably entrenched as he's been the leading RB on B2b SB winning teams. I could easily be convinced he's got two good years in him but that's when his rookie contract runs out. Just to much longer term unknown for where he goes for me. If you are in an existing league and need a RB for 1-2 years he's a lot more valuable to me then a startup.
I'm pretty sure you are asking about dynasty but he's RB13 in redraft and dynasty of FFPC leagues and going in same range of draft and I'm way more into drafting him in that range in redraft.
Bottom line for me, 1-2 years is all I feel confident he has value, in that 1-2 year span his value will be highly dependent on what they do to replace the Mckinnon role, whether that be with more Pachecho or pursuing an option that becomes available later.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dude ran 137 angry steps to get 45 yards.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not sure which tweet I like better:
Pacheco runs like the kid who showed up to tryouts in jeans.
Pacheco run like he just sold fent to a senior citizen
Guess now maybe we can stop the hand wringing about whether the UDFA rookie or an 8th year JAG are going to kill his value.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Pacheco woulda had a better game if he’d had the nice reception Perine did. And Perine damn near had a 40 yard TD as well.
Any touches not going to Pacheco hurt his value a little, unfortunately.
Perine was a perfect pickup for the Chiefs. While bad for Pacheco, it's good for the team.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Fun guy to watch play football. Dude is like a Marion Barber lite.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
....or Marshawn Lynch lite. His violent style is fun to watch, but would make make me nervous for long term fantasy.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Yep. What makes it worse is he is so animated. So you always have those few seconds where your wondering about his health after each play. Okay he doesn't appear to be hurt. Ha ha. I don't think I'd enjoy rostering him for that reason.
Right and Perine just got into town, his role is only going to increase, even if he had the bad drop.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s mystifying that people are in denial about this.
KC just played probably the best defense they'll face all season.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
BAL ranked 12th rush yards allowed last season. #1 TD allowed, only gave up 6 last season.
Pretty successful game all things considered.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Baltimore literally gave up the 2nd most rushing yards and touchdowns of any team.
What?Baltimore literally gave up the 2nd most rushing yards and touchdowns of any team.
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Dude got 15+ PPR points against one of the best D's in the league last year. Stoked for the rest of the year.
Pipes
Footballguy
Perrine is a soon to be 29 years old journeyman. I guess I'm in denial but I'm not worried about Perrine having a significant impact on Pacheco's numbers at all.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Baltimore was #14 in rush yards allowed and #1 in rush TDs allowed (6 total which was 2 fewer than the Bears)?Baltimore literally gave up the 2nd most rushing yards and touchdowns of any team.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I agree, but he seems to be the first man up should something happen to the starter. Unlike others' feelings about Steele.
And how old was McKinnon and how many teams was he on?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
There has only been 1 game. It was joke.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In 2024 they’ve given up the 2nd most rushing yards and TDs of any team. Maybe the most rushing TDs. I’ll need to check the box score.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Whoosh! Fair played.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He took a significant amount last night. Or did you think Pacheco was better off without that catch & run, or the near 40 yard TD reception target?
