RB Isiah Pacheco, KC (1 Viewer)

[Largent72]

Dropped Jaylen Warren for him. My flex was Pickens/Jeudy toss turn....just going with the higher floor with Pacheco now

 

[icehouse]

I just dropped Edwards for him in redraft. I had him already in a keeper league. Debating between starting him over Dillon or Robinson.

 

[Captain Crunk]

Dropped Akers for him. Now decision time -Drake or IP.

 

[menobrown]

Honestly this seems more like an honorary start considering they’re going to deploy all 3 RB.

I don't think you announce this or go about it because of ceremony. This feels like a "we're going to start the game with this guy because we think he's the best for today's job." SImple as that, really. I don't expect great things from him, but it's a little more than honorary, one would think.

Yeah, you don't bench your first round RB to give your 7th round draft pick and honorary start and your sure don't bump him up to first team reps all week just for show. Based on what I'd been reading all week you could tell this was brewing.

I mentioned this in the CEH thread just now but my guess is they want to see what Pachecho can do in a bigger role before the trade deadline, which will arrive before they play their next game in week 9. But I think they've come to the conclusion that CEH ain't it.

 

[rockaction]

I mentioned this in the CEH thread just now but my guess is they want to see what Pachecho can do in a bigger role before the trade deadline, which will arrive before they play their next game in week 9.

Argh. Buzzkill. Kansas City in the market for an RB would kill dynasty dreams everywhere. And make some, I guess. Monty. . .who else might be on the block?

 

[BeTheMatch]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

 

[BladeRunner]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

Oh, boy. I have to lean Pollard against DET than Pecheco against SF for what its worth.

I'm not an expert on predictions, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

 

[BeTheMatch]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

Oh, boy. I have to lean Pollard against DET than Pecheco against SF for what its worth.

That's what I was thinking but SF got torched a little last week. And is it crazy to bench any KC starter?

 

[rockaction]

Pollard

My honest opinion, too. I could be very, very wrong.

 

[BladeRunner]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

Oh, boy. I have to lean Pollard against DET than Pecheco against SF for what its worth.

That's what I was thinking but SF got torched a little last week. And is it crazy to bench any KC starter?

You don't ever bench Mahomes or Kelce. EVER. Even if the team they're playing against is God and his Angels.

 

[Summerofgeorge]

What are some projections we have for today?

I don't usually give subscriber information away because I respect Joe's business, but today seems to possibly serve as an advertisement for the product. Sig Bloom is aware of this development, is awake and ready, and has changed his projections to have Pacheco at 10.84 points in my half PPR league.

Now, this is all going off of Rapaport and assumes not only is he getting the reporting right, but also that KC doesn't make an in-game adjustment back to other running backs should this not be working out well. It probably assumes KC is hanging with SF and Pacheco is effective in his first few series. Caveat emptor in a major way.

Good luck, folks!

I drafted Pacheco in both leagues, ending up needing the spot and dropped in both. Added in the one he was available in on this news early this morning.
Starting, coming off the bench, CEH gets injured and misses time…whatever, he’s still a Andy Reid rb. My expectations are low .
I think I’ve owned at one time or another every RB that Reid has ever rostered, I think the only one that killed it for me was Westbrook. But I may be misremembering

 

[Summerofgeorge]

....now watch him crap the bed.

Honestly this seems more like an honorary start considering they’re going to deploy all 3 RB. But it seems more like a negative message for CEH & a positive statement about Pacheco.

Whether that all translates to the field is a ?

Agreed

 

[travdogg]

I mentioned this in the CEH thread just now but my guess is they want to see what Pachecho can do in a bigger role before the trade deadline, which will arrive before they play their next game in week 9.

Argh. Buzzkill. Kansas City in the market for an RB would kill dynasty dreams everywhere. And make some, I guess. Monty. . .who else might be on the block?

Montgomery would make a ton of sense, especially with Matt Nagy on KC's staff.

Alexander Mattison or Antonio Gibson?

If they want to go big, maybe Kamara, if NO is thinking they are about done at 2-5, and missing picks?

 

[travdogg]

What are some projections we have for today?

I don't usually give subscriber information away because I respect Joe's business, but today seems to possibly serve as an advertisement for the product. Sig Bloom is aware of this development, is awake and ready, and has changed his projections to have Pacheco at 10.84 points in my half PPR league.

Now, this is all going off of Rapaport and assumes not only is he getting the reporting right, but also that KC doesn't make an in-game adjustment back to other running backs should this not be working out well. It probably assumes KC is hanging with SF and Pacheco is effective in his first few series. Caveat emptor in a major way.

Good luck, folks!

I drafted Pacheco in both leagues, ending up needing the spot and dropped in both. Added in the one he was available in on this news early this morning.
Starting, coming off the bench, CEH gets injured and misses time…whatever, he’s still a Andy Reid rb. My expectations are low .
I think I’ve owned at one time or another every RB that Reid has ever rostered, I think the only one that killed it for me was Westbrook. But I may be misremembering

LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles both had RB1 overall seasons with Reid.

 

[Summerofgeorge]

What are some projections we have for today?

I don't usually give subscriber information away because I respect Joe's business, but today seems to possibly serve as an advertisement for the product. Sig Bloom is aware of this development, is awake and ready, and has changed his projections to have Pacheco at 10.84 points in my half PPR league.

Now, this is all going off of Rapaport and assumes not only is he getting the reporting right, but also that KC doesn't make an in-game adjustment back to other running backs should this not be working out well. It probably assumes KC is hanging with SF and Pacheco is effective in his first few series. Caveat emptor in a major way.

Good luck, folks!

I drafted Pacheco in both leagues, ending up needing the spot and dropped in both. Added in the one he was available in on this news early this morning.
Starting, coming off the bench, CEH gets injured and misses time…whatever, he’s still a Andy Reid rb. My expectations are low .
I think I’ve owned at one time or another every RB that Reid has ever rostered, I think the only one that killed it for me was Westbrook. But I may be misremembering

LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles both had RB1 overall seasons with Reid.

Good call. Somehow forgot all about Charles

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

But I think they've come to the conclusion that CEH ain't it.

I felt like they knew that last year & it led in part to drafting Pacheco.

 

[Dizzy]

What are some projections we have for today?

I don't usually give subscriber information away because I respect Joe's business, but today seems to possibly serve as an advertisement for the product. Sig Bloom is aware of this development, is awake and ready, and has changed his projections to have Pacheco at 10.84 points in my half PPR league.

Now, this is all going off of Rapaport and assumes not only is he getting the reporting right, but also that KC doesn't make an in-game adjustment back to other running backs should this not be working out well. It probably assumes KC is hanging with SF and Pacheco is effective in his first few series. Caveat emptor in a major way.

Good luck, folks!

I drafted Pacheco in both leagues, ending up needing the spot and dropped in both. Added in the one he was available in on this news early this morning.
Starting, coming off the bench, CEH gets injured and misses time…whatever, he’s still a Andy Reid rb. My expectations are low .
I think I’ve owned at one time or another every RB that Reid has ever rostered, I think the only one that killed it for me was Westbrook. But I may be misremembering

LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles both had RB1 overall seasons with Reid.

Kareem Hunt not bad either before he got the boot.

 

[rockaction]

I felt like they knew that last year & it led in part to drafting Pacheco.

I feel like they knew it after seven or eight games and looked around and said, "****. We wasted a first-round pick on this running back? When the combine should have told us not to?" I think he's every bit the sunk cost poster child.

Wasn't gonna be nothing making him better but a whole lot of speed and power.

 

[travdogg]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

I'll go the other way, and say Pacheco would be my call there. Pollard is big play or bust, and while he hits bog plays every other week, he's likely not seeing as big a workload, and if Pacheco starts hot, I don't think 15-20 touches is unrealistic.

If I did rankings, I'd have Pacheco around RB20, and Pollard around RB30.

I felt like they knew that last year & it led in part to drafting Pacheco.

I feel like they knew it after seven or eight games and looked around and said, "****. We wasted a first-round pick on this running back? When the combine should have told us not to?" I think he's every bit the sunk cost poster child.

Wasn't gonna be nothing making him better but a whole lot of speed and power.

I will always understand why CEH went ahead of Taylor for KC, as there were so many questions about Taylor's receiving ability, and that's so huge in KC's offense, but I still have no idea how he went ahead of Swift, who would have been a perfect fit. Or even Gibson a round later.

 

[Faust]

Jared Smola @SmolaDS

Worth noting that Isiah Pacheco's rushing yards prop is set around 33.5 at most books.

https://twitter.com/smolads/status/1584188537590910977?s=21

 

[rockaction]

but I still have no idea how he went ahead of Swift, who would have been a perfect fit

If you look back at the draft thread that year, that's what you'll see me saying. I was shocked when they took CEH. I had the 1.01, and promptly dumped it (stupidly).

 

[ChiefD]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

I'll go the other way, and say Pacheco would be my call there. Pollard is big play or bust, and while he hits bog plays every other week, he's likely not seeing as big a workload, and if Pacheco starts hot, I don't think 15-20 touches is unrealistic.

If I did rankings, I'd have Pacheco around RB20, and Pollard around RB30.

I felt like they knew that last year & it led in part to drafting Pacheco.

I feel like they knew it after seven or eight games and looked around and said, "****. We wasted a first-round pick on this running back? When the combine should have told us not to?" I think he's every bit the sunk cost poster child.

Wasn't gonna be nothing making him better but a whole lot of speed and power.

I will always understand why CEH went ahead of Taylor for KC, as there were so many questions about Taylor's receiving ability, and that's so huge in KC's offense, but I still have no idea how he went ahead of Swift, who would have been a perfect fit. Or even Gibson a round later.

That draft pick made me cry then and makes me cry now.

 

[LawFitz]

Alright gents, our patience has taken it's first major step toward payoff.

Now who has the stones to start him this fine day, and over whom? I'm debating iPatch over Mostert in one league and leaning him over Sutton in another

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

 

[Deamon]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

Obviously you start Williams.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So.... Worth a start today? For me, it's him or Pollard

I'll go the other way, and say Pacheco would be my call there. Pollard is big play or bust, and while he hits bog plays every other week, he's likely not seeing as big a workload, and if Pacheco starts hot, I don't think 15-20 touches is unrealistic.

If I did rankings, I'd have Pacheco around RB20, and Pollard around RB30.

I think Pollard is a safer; and better option.

DAL is going to run a ton of plays against DET. They’re a sieve of a run defense, and both Pollard & Zeke are jackpot starts.

This week is exactly why you draft Pollard. Dak is back, that whole playbook opens up, and pollard’s floor becomes significantly higher than with Rush under center.

By comparison, Pacheco is getting the start in a 3-way committee with Jet & CEH, going up against a very tough 49ers defense.

I think Pollard is the clear cut no-brainer start today.

As always, I could be wrong.

Cc: @zamboni

 

[chad in Indy]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

 

[Summerofgeorge]

iPatch?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

iPatch?

I’ll allow it .gif

 

[chad in Indy]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Agreed.

 

[themeistersinger]

I had no idea this was coming until I saw all this activity on this thread. Pacheco has been on my speed dial all season. Just dropped Brian Robinson for Pacheco. Full PPR. Hopefully it's a good move.

 

[themeistersinger]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Saw a report that Gus Edwards looked like the starter based on warm ups

 

[Heisenberg23]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Saw a report that Gus Edwards looked like the starter based on warm ups

Full ppr 14 team - Pacheco over Mooney in flex..

 

[LionOfGosforth]

With the Gus news, just put Pacheco in over Drake. I'm on board now

 

[The Frankman]

lol FOX doesn't even have an animation for Isaiah Pacheco. They had to show his real picture on the FOX broadcast next to an animated Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Let's get it, men!

Today, WE FEAST. (or maybe a snack)

 

[chad in Indy]

Well

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Agreed.

Well. I wnet over 38 minutes, but with Gus news, switched to Pacheco. Prob shouldn't, but I'll have more fun rooting for him

 

[Scooby1974]

....now watch him crap the bed.

It’s the 49ers D. Not sure any RB is exactly set up for success.

Isn't this D banged up? What changed from last week when ATL pounded them? And this is the KC offense mind you. I do believe Bosa is back.

Bosa is back. That’s it. That’s the update you need.

Lots of guys back. Trent Williams, Jimmie Ward, Jason Verette as well. Plus CMC should help SF O e tend some drives.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Well

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Agreed.

Well. I wnet over 38 minutes, but with Gus news, switched to Pacheco. Prob shouldn't, but I'll have more fun rooting for him

Same but also somehow Gus was just lying around as a FA in my league so I picked him up as well lol

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Saw a report that Gus Edwards looked like the starter based on warm ups

Man I love that - I grabbed Gus, my opponent started Drake.

 

[LawFitz]

iPatch?

iPatch

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Agreed.

Well. I wnet over 38 minutes, but with Gus news, switched to Pacheco. Prob shouldn't, but I'll have more fun rooting for him

Same but also somehow Gus was just lying around as a FA in my league so I picked him up as well lol

I grabbed Bus, too.

Not a start consideration for me, so of course he’ll have a 3 TD day

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Well

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Agreed.

Well. I wnet over 38 minutes, but with Gus news, switched to Pacheco. Prob shouldn't, but I'll have more fun rooting for him

Same but also somehow Gus was just lying around as a FA in my league so I picked him up as well lol

I grabbed Bus, too.

Not a start consideration for me, so of course he’ll have a 3 TD day

Got to love his potential in this offense for the second half of the season, whatever happens today right

 

[GroveDiesel]

Well, can certainly say I wish I had known that he was receiving first team reps all week as I probably wouldn’t have dropped him this past Friday. Oof.

 

[chad in Indy]

Wrestling with him or K.Drake. I suspect many would laugh at my indecision

I'm still going drake, at least for the next 38 minutes. LOL if Vegas has Pacheco at 35 yards rushing, Drake seems the safer for play

With Gus back, and Hill active as well, Drake’s picture is a little cloudy as well. And bonus, they have a QB capable of leading the team in rushing yards and rushing TDs on any given Sunday.

Not saying which I’d choose, but it’s not all sunshine & butterflies in Baltimore.

No absolutely not sunshine. But at least you know there's some data behind it, versus the unknown in KC. Again just safer play IMo, not necessarily the right play

Agreed.

Guess I got lucky w the last minute benching of Drake.

 

[TampaMike19]

Did we get bamboozled?

 

[ShamrockPride]

Did we get bamboozled?

You gotta keep in mind even when CEH was the "lead back", I think he was under 50% of the RB snap share most of the time. It's a true 3-headed monster there, and any of them getting double digit touches is going to be the exception.

I'm lucky enough that I get his return yards in my league, so as long as SF keeps scoring, I can breathe a little bit.

 

[Sam Quentin]