RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, WAS (26 Viewers)

[rockaction]

Was looking to deal Bill in dynasty for an upgrade at RB. Achane owner was interest but said I also need to include Njigba and Flowers with Bill .... yikes

Come on Bill, break out this weekend!

No. That’s ridiculous. He wants the two top target share guys this year and a starting RB? Dude, even if you include only Flowers you’re getting a bum deal.

McDaniel is gone yesterday and who knows what the new coach will want.

Flowers, Njigba, and JCM?

There’s a thread here for that. Worst dynasty offers you’ve received.

Holy smokes. I thought your first post was kidding.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Was looking to deal Bill in dynasty for an upgrade at RB. Achane owner was interest but said I also need to include Njigba and Flowers with Bill .... yikes

Come on Bill, break out this weekend!

No. That’s ridiculous. He wants the two top target share guys this year and a starting RB? Dude, even if you include only Flowers you’re getting a bum deal.

McDaniel is gone yesterday and who knows what the new coach will want.

Flowers, Njigba, and JCM?

There’s a thread here for that. Worst dynasty offers you’ve received.

Holy smokes. I thought your first post was kidding.

I did post it in that threat .. I will overpay a little for Achane but that was crazy. Searching for other top targets that Bill and Flowers may net me. I am loaded with 3 - 2027 1st at my disposal as well in dynasty

 

[Football Jones]

Who knows...I've been surprised before, but if you break it down to the bone, I believe they moved BRob because of Bill, and Bill, alone. I mean, they could've cut McNichols and kept everyone else. Since Bill has been getting Robinson's touches, it's fair to assume Bill is the reason. Not only that, if they viewed Rodriguez as somebody who had a strong enough skill set (power back) to make a difference, he would've been active instead of McNichols the first 2 games.

That said, does it really matter? Personnel has changed so packages could change, but I think it's pretty clear why they moved BRob. I suspect Bill will essentially be their feature back and it remains to be seen how they use McNichols and Rodriguez. Could both get a fair number of snaps? It's certainly possible.

 

[wgoldsph]

How is Bill in pass pro? McNichols is basically on the roster for special teams and pass pro, so I can easily see him picking up third downs if Bill gets Daniels leveled.

 

[msudaisy26]

How is Bill in pass pro? McNichols is basically on the roster for special teams and pass pro, so I can easily see him picking up third downs if Bill gets Daniels leveled.

Not sure if we can hold it against Bill for getting Daniels leveled this week.

 

[Ray Barboni]

How is Bill in pass pro? McNichols is basically on the roster for special teams and pass pro, so I can easily see him picking up third downs if Bill gets Daniels leveled.

Not sure if we can hold it against Bill for getting Daniels leveled this week.

yea .. If Bill gets JD "leveled" this week? They've got more problems than this board can solve.

One of our posters here, keeps calling Chris Rodriguez " BULL" .. im not sure where that nickname came from, i like it though. That said, im in the camp that thinks "Bull' might just be better than "bill"

 

[Banger]

I would not be surprised if he had a good game. With Ekeler out and Daniels out, I could see him being a bit of a focal point.

 

[Football Jones]

This kid really has a chance to be special. The raw talent is there. That said, so many things have to go right. First, will Bill be given the opportunity to be a feature back? It's not typical for a 7th-rounder to be handed the feature back role early on...the last player taken at his position, at that. Secondly, will the offense allow him to be good, coaching and all? There's a chance Bill could excel in this offense, but nothing is certain, especially if Daniels is out.

I thought this was one of the weirdest years ever for rookies in FF. I was lower than consensus on nearly all the tier 1 RBs. I had Warren as the best prospect in this class. Just looking at raw talent, I think Bill and Ollie are as good as any of the rookie RBs, but you really start out handicapped if you aren't at least a day-2 draft pick.

 

[WVU Alum]

This year was very deep in RB talent. I think Bill has a real shot at being one of the top backs out of this group.

 

[ffmail4me]

I offered Swift for Bill and we rejected in a PPR dynasty league. Granted I have him 10 of my 16 dynasty leagues and 4 of my 5 redraft leagues, but I'd sure like to have him everywhere. But seems the word is out, and with Ekeler gone even less like his owners are wililng to move off of him. I figured I was giving up more offering Swift but oh well.

 

[ffmail4me]

This kid really has a chance to be special. The raw talent is there. That said, so many things have to go right. First, will Bill be given the opportunity to be the feature back? It's not typical for a 7th-rounder to be handed the feature back role early on...the last player taken at his position, at that. Secondly, will the offense allow him to be good, coaching and all? There's a chance Bill could excel in this offense, but nothing is certain, especially if Daniels is out.

I thought this was one of the weirdest years ever for rookies in FF. I was lower than consensus on nearly all the tier 1 RBs. I had Warren as the best prospect in this class. Just looking at raw talent, I think Bill and Ollie are as good as any of the top RBs, but you really start out handicapped if you aren't at least a day-2 draft pick.

I agree Bill looks special and I'm so excited to see what he does this weekend. And while historically late round skill players don't often hit, you have to keep in mind his GM was known for landing really good talent later in drafts in SF (Purdy, Kittle, Mitchell, Hufanga, Lenoir, etc.) so I don't even factor in Bill's draft capitol when I think about his upside and long-term prospects. What's important is he has produced VERY WELL when given the carries and they saw enough to trade away Robinson. I'm sold.

 

[Ilov80s]

This kid really has a chance to be special. The raw talent is there. That said, so many things have to go right. First, will Bill be given the opportunity to be the feature back? It's not typical for a 7th-rounder to be handed the feature back role early on...the last player taken at his position, at that. Secondly, will the offense allow him to be good, coaching and all? There's a chance Bill could excel in this offense, but nothing is certain, especially if Daniels is out.

I thought this was one of the weirdest years ever for rookies in FF. I was lower than consensus on nearly all the tier 1 RBs. I had Warren as the best prospect in this class. Just looking at raw talent, I think Bill and Ollie are as good as any of the top RBs, but you really start out handicapped if you aren't at least a day-2 draft pick.

I agree Bill looks special and I'm so excited to see what he does this weekend. And while historically late round skill players don't often hit, you have to keep in mind his GM was known for landing really good talent later in drafts in SF (Purdy, Kittle, Mitchell, Hufanga, Lenoir, etc.) so I don't even factor in Bill's draft capitol when I think about his upside and long-term prospects. What's important is he has produced VERY WELL when given the carries and they saw enough to trade away Robinson. I'm sold.

Looks special? Really? I thought he looked good week 1 but not sure what constitutes special. I agree good signs for him with the BR trade and his big run week 1. Is it a known fact the Washingtgon GM was the guy behind the Kittle, Purdy picks? I don't really know anything about how SF works.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

This kid really has a chance to be special. The raw talent is there. That said, so many things have to go right. First, will Bill be given the opportunity to be the feature back? It's not typical for a 7th-rounder to be handed the feature back role early on...the last player taken at his position, at that. Secondly, will the offense allow him to be good, coaching and all? There's a chance Bill could excel in this offense, but nothing is certain, especially if Daniels is out.

I thought this was one of the weirdest years ever for rookies in FF. I was lower than consensus on nearly all the tier 1 RBs. I had Warren as the best prospect in this class. Just looking at raw talent, I think Bill and Ollie are as good as any of the top RBs, but you really start out handicapped if you aren't at least a day-2 draft pick.

I agree Bill looks special and I'm so excited to see what he does this weekend. And while historically late round skill players don't often hit, you have to keep in mind his GM was known for landing really good talent later in drafts in SF (Purdy, Kittle, Mitchell, Hufanga, Lenoir, etc.) so I don't even factor in Bill's draft capitol when I think about his upside and long-term prospects. What's important is he has produced VERY WELL when given the carries and they saw enough to trade away Robinson. I'm sold.

Looks special? Really? I thought he looked good week 1 but not sure what constitutes special. I agree good signs for him with the BR trade and his big run week 1. Is it a known fact the Washingtgon GM was the guy behind the Kittle, Purdy picks? I don't really know anything about how SF works.

He has special traits as a running back .. Instinctive runner with an explosive burst who doesn’t lose speed when he cuts. Things you really can’t coach.

 

[Football Jones]

This kid really has a chance to be special. The raw talent is there. That said, so many things have to go right. First, will Bill be given the opportunity to be the feature back? It's not typical for a 7th-rounder to be handed the feature back role early on...the last player taken at his position, at that. Secondly, will the offense allow him to be good, coaching and all? There's a chance Bill could excel in this offense, but nothing is certain, especially if Daniels is out.

I thought this was one of the weirdest years ever for rookies in FF. I was lower than consensus on nearly all the tier 1 RBs. I had Warren as the best prospect in this class. Just looking at raw talent, I think Bill and Ollie are as good as any of the top RBs, but you really start out handicapped if you aren't at least a day-2 draft pick.

I agree Bill looks special and I'm so excited to see what he does this weekend. And while historically late round skill players don't often hit, you have to keep in mind his GM was known for landing really good talent later in drafts in SF (Purdy, Kittle, Mitchell, Hufanga, Lenoir, etc.) so I don't even factor in Bill's draft capitol when I think about his upside and long-term prospects. What's important is he has produced VERY WELL when given the carries and they saw enough to trade away Robinson. I'm sold.

Looks special? Really? I thought he looked good week 1 but not sure what constitutes special. I agree good signs for him with the BR trade and his big run week 1. Is it a known fact the Washingtgon GM was the guy behind the Kittle, Purdy picks? I don't really know anything about how SF works.

For the record, I didn't say Bill was special...only that he has a chance to be special. Does he have strong traits? Yes, but there are a lot of things at play.

 

[efactor]

A lot of wish casting in this group today. “Special” is being thrown around very liberally.

 

[need2know]

This week will tell alot

 

[ProstheticRGK]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Someone is offering me either Keon Coleman or Garrett Wilson for JCM.

Am I foolish for not accepting?

Yes! You should've accepted Wilson whenever you saw the offer, unless it's a shallow start league or non-PPR.

JCM is a snap sell in dynasty if you can get a Corum+2nd type deal or better. He's replacement-level talent with no draft capital. You should always look to sell these types when there's hype.

Sorry, this is redraft. I was thinking I should take Coleman for this year.

In dynasty I would definitely take Wilson for JCM.

Wilson easily regardless of format

+1

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This week will tell alot

Best time to sell high. The end result is the difference between a good deal and a great deal.

 

[Chaka]

Someone is offering me either Keon Coleman or Garrett Wilson for JCM.

Am I foolish for not accepting?

Yes! You should've accepted Wilson whenever you saw the offer, unless it's a shallow start league or non-PPR.

JCM is a snap sell in dynasty if you can get a Corum+2nd type deal or better. He's replacement-level talent with no draft capital. You should always look to sell these types when there's hype.

Sorry, this is redraft. I was thinking I should take Coleman for this year.

In dynasty I would definitely take Wilson for JCM.

Wilson easily regardless of format

+1

He backed out of both. I'll take it as a win because I would have gladly accepted Coleman at the time.

 

[Chaka]

I just offered Worthy for him.

10 team, PPR, SF redraft.

Y'know, I almost added:

"Don't tell @Hot Sauce Guy

"

True fact.

Trade went through. Couldn't be happier. I'm sure that will change tomorrow when Nichols and Rodriguez combine for 30 touches and 250 yards. But, today I'm thrilled.

 

[Football Jones]

We really don't know what we have in Bill. I'm a little more confident in a guy like Ollie, who's shown elite talent as a 19 year-old. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see Bill has some really nice raw talent. I've seen numerous people call most all of the tier 1 RBs in this class special, especially Jeanty. None have shown that kind of talent so far...not even close. It works both ways.

Bill is a long ways from special right now. Lots of things need to be worked out as I mentioned, but there's a path, even if it's not likely.

 

[Football Jones]

One thing is for sure, Bill was way underdrafted as a 7th-rounder. None of the day-1 and day-2 RBs are going to blow him away, talent-wise. He belongs...as does Ollie.

While week 3 will tell us something, it's far from any kind of real indicator with Daniels out. Even if Daniels was playing, it's just one week in a late-rounder's career. We'll know a lot more down the road, later in the season.

 

[Ilov80s]

We really don't know what we have in Bill. I'm a little more confident in a guy like Ollie, who's shown elite talent at 19 years old. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see Bill has some nice raw talent. I've seen numerous people call most all of the tier 1 RBs in this class special, especially Jeanty. None have shown that kind of talent so far...not even close. It works both ways.

Bill is a long ways from special right now. Lots of things need to be worked out as I mentioned, but there's a path, even if it's not likely.

I don't know, looking at the cut-ups of Jeanty this year, he's breaking a lot of tackles. The problem is most of them are behind or at the LOS.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I don't know, looking at the cut-ups of Jeanty this year, he's breaking a lot of tackles. The problem is most of them are behind or at the LOS.

Saw a good breakdown video by a dude who clearly knew ball (IG, no link) - OL totally whiffing on LB, etc - Jeanty looks solid. Raiders OL looks like warm dog vomit.

I think long-term Jeanty will be fine.

 

[Football Jones]

We really don't know what we have in Bill. I'm a little more confident in a guy like Ollie, who's shown elite talent at 19 years old. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see Bill has some nice raw talent. I've seen numerous people call most all of the tier 1 RBs in this class special, especially Jeanty. None have shown that kind of talent so far...not even close. It works both ways.

Bill is a long ways from special right now. Lots of things need to be worked out as I mentioned, but there's a path, even if it's not likely.

I don't know, looking at the cut-ups of Jeanty this year, he's breaking a lot of tackles. The problem is most of them are behind or at the LOS.

Jeanty has looked good on some runs, but he isn't overly explosive. Tough road to hoe in the NFL making a living as a 205-pounder breaking tackles. Obviously, he has some very good traits. I like him, just not as much as consensus. As far as FF, I didn't particularly like his landing spot, either. Not saying he's a bust by any means, though.

I honestly don't know what order I'd put the RBs in. I didn't have a high enough pick to be in on any of the top-rated ones and haven't thought about it too much. I was sky-high on Ollie and Bill relative to their ADP, though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Y'know, I almost added:

"Don't tell @Hot Sauce Guy

"

True fact.

Trade went through. Couldn't be happier. I'm sure that will change tomorrow when Nichols and Rodriguez combine for 30 touches and 250 yards. But, today I'm thrilled.

Trades are about context. I have no problem with that deal - I roster Worthy in a league, and I roster Mason in a league. If I needed a WR I’d easily sell JCM for Worthy. If needed a RB, I’d maybe consider selling Worthy for JCM.

The only thing, to me, and this is just me, but I’d want to see what an Eke-less WAS offense looks like. Especially a Daniels-less Eke-less Commanders.

I’ve seen what Worhty can do in a pretty decent sample size. So there’s some risk - you joked about that exact risk in fact, so I know we’re on the same page. It’s just that I don’t think JCM’s value exceeds Worthy’s with a good performance, but a bad performance could make this deal a bit lopsided against you.

 

[Chaka]

Y'know, I almost added:

"Don't tell @Hot Sauce Guy

"

True fact.

Trade went through. Couldn't be happier. I'm sure that will change tomorrow when Nichols and Rodriguez combine for 30 touches and 250 yards. But, today I'm thrilled.

Trades are about context. I have no problem with that deal - I roster Worthy in a league, and I roster Mason in a league. If I needed a WR I’d easily sell JCM for Worthy. If needed a RB, I’d maybe consider selling Worthy for JCM.

The only thing, to me, and this is just me, but I’d want to see what an Eke-less WAS offense looks like. Especially a Daniels-less Eke-less Commanders.

I’ve seen what Worhty can do in a pretty decent sample size. So there’s some risk - you joked about that exact risk in fact, so I know we’re on the same page. It’s just that I don’t think JCM’s value exceeds Worthy’s with a good performance, but a bad performance could make this deal a bit lopsided against you.

I don't know how you measure Worthy but I use week 12 last year as his starting point (same for Rice the year prior). His numbers pro rate to 123 targets for 94-1,080-9 with 23 rushes for 119-2

Certainly nice numbers but, my hope and the hope of many others was to have him solidify a role in weeks 1-6 that would carry over after Rice comes back. At this point I think we get maybe two games from Rice and it takes a few weeks before he starts returning value this season. He's another spec player at this point. I had no problem trading him for another spec player at a position with more scarcity.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Y'know, I almost added:

"Don't tell @Hot Sauce Guy

"

True fact.

Trade went through. Couldn't be happier. I'm sure that will change tomorrow when Nichols and Rodriguez combine for 30 touches and 250 yards. But, today I'm thrilled.

Trades are about context. I have no problem with that deal - I roster Worthy in a league, and I roster Mason in a league. If I needed a WR I’d easily sell JCM for Worthy. If needed a RB, I’d maybe consider selling Worthy for JCM.

The only thing, to me, and this is just me, but I’d want to see what an Eke-less WAS offense looks like. Especially a Daniels-less Eke-less Commanders.

I’ve seen what Worhty can do in a pretty decent sample size. So there’s some risk - you joked about that exact risk in fact, so I know we’re on the same page. It’s just that I don’t think JCM’s value exceeds Worthy’s with a good performance, but a bad performance could make this deal a bit lopsided against you.

I don't know how you measure Worthy but I use week 12 last year as his starting point (same for Rice the year prior). His numbers pro rate to 123 targets for 94-1,080-9 with 23 rushes for 119-2

Certainly nice numbers but, my hope and the hope of many others was to have him solidify a role in weeks 1-6 that would carry over after Rice comes back. At this point I think we get maybe two games from Rice and it takes a few weeks before he starts returning value this season. He's another spec player at this point. I had no problem trading him for another spec player at a position with more scarcity.

Yep - context is everything. It all comes down to depth & need.

It’s probably fair to say that even injured, Worthy’s value is higher than JCM’s, even with the post Eke hype.

But beauty/value is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[(HULK)]

FWIW, I'm keeping him on the bench still this weekend.

 

[barackdhouse]

16/112/1 and 2/14

 

[Chaka]

FWIW, I'm keeping him on the bench still this weekend.

In favor of?

 

[efactor]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

Not really. I have a couple shares but just can’t honestly call him “special” at this point. Not everyone bases their opinions of players based on how many shares they have.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

Not really. I have a couple shares but just can’t honestly call him “special” at this point. Not everyone bases their opinions of players based on how many shares they have.

I disagree. Everyone bases their opinions on how many shares they have. Confirmation bias at work.

 

[(HULK)]

FWIW, I'm keeping him on the bench still this weekend.

In favor of?

A lot of different players cause I have him on numerous teams.

I don't feel like I have a good bead on how the team will do today without JD5.

 

[FantasyMC]

FWIW, I'm keeping him on the bench still this weekend.

In favor of?

For me, Walker and Etienne

 

[(HULK)]

FWIW, I'm keeping him on the bench still this weekend.

In favor of?

A lot of different players cause I have him on numerous teams.

I don't feel like I have a good bead on how the team will do today without JD5.

Actually, hearing Egbuka is on a pitch count due to injury so I might put him in there.

 

[Chaka]

FWIW, I'm keeping him on the bench still this weekend.

In favor of?

For me, Walker and Etienne

For me:
CMC & ETN at RB
BTJ & JAMO at flex

(Despite draft position Zay and Jakobi are my #1 & #2 WRs at this point).

 

[fatness]

Washington just benched their left guard. I don't know how that'll affect their run blocking.

 

[efactor]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

Not really. I have a couple shares but just can’t honestly call him “special” at this point. Not everyone bases their opinions of players based on how many shares they have.

I disagree. Everyone bases their opinions on how many shares they have. Confirmation bias at work.

You're automatically wrong when you use the word "everyone"

 

[ProstheticRGK]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

Not really. I have a couple shares but just can’t honestly call him “special” at this point. Not everyone bases their opinions of players based on how many shares they have.

I disagree. Everyone bases their opinions on how many shares they have. Confirmation bias at work.

You're automatically wrong when you use the word "everyone"

No, I’m not. Everyone uses the word everyone.

 

[efactor]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

Not really. I have a couple shares but just can’t honestly call him “special” at this point. Not everyone bases their opinions of players based on how many shares they have.

I disagree. Everyone bases their opinions on how many shares they have. Confirmation bias at work.

You're automatically wrong when you use the word "everyone"

No, I’m not. Everyone uses the word everyone.

Wrong again

 

[TartanLion]

Firing him up today. In over Mooney and Tracy

 

[Ilov80s]

Firing him up today. In over Mooney and Tracy

Giving him the nod over Hampton today

 

[Doubles]

Starting him in the flex over MHJ in ppr. Is that crazy?

 

[ProstheticRGK]

It’s easy to tell who got shares of Bill vs who didn’t get shares of Bill in this thread.

Put me on team “special” wishcasters.

Not really. I have a couple shares but just can’t honestly call him “special” at this point. Not everyone bases their opinions of players based on how many shares they have.

I disagree. Everyone bases their opinions on how many shares they have. Confirmation bias at work.

You're automatically wrong when you use the word "everyone"

No, I’m not. Everyone uses the word everyone.

Wrong again

This interaction = 2 people. So far, 2 people have used the word ‘everybody’. 100%.

2/2 is everybody. Science and math. Infallible.

 

[Ilov80s]

Starting him in the flex over MHJ in ppr. Is that crazy?

Not crazy. I would probably give MHJ another week to see if the team is figure out how to get him some targets but it's looking worrisome so I get the desire for the change.

 

[TartanLion]

Rodriguez in first drive

 

[King of the Jungle]

Rodriguez in first drive

lol…the JCM roller coaster continues…

 

[Dez]

Welp.............