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RB Jahmyr Gibbs, DET (2 Viewers)

Gibbs is four games into his career, I am glad so many people have determined what kind of player he is going to be already. I think his role will evolve, and the explosive plays will come. Below are Kamara’s first four games. Things can change quickly.

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As a Lion fan I want Gibby to explode and be the weapon he was intended to be. I would like nothing more to see him get 60-60 rushing and receiving Getting some TDs here and there.

With Jameson Williams coming back, and St Brown and LaPorta already having Goffs eye. There is no urgency for production. Only time will tell.
Imagine this team with Jalen Carter instead of Gibbs. Wow.

Yes, That has been mentioned about 1000 times on Detroit Sports Radio. Or Jordon Davis instead of Williams last year.

Would really have help Hutch stay away from all the double teams he is getting now.
 
I was referring to Twitter which is what the original poster was referring to and I clearly said "US" in my post.

Of course. I'm talking about fans that claim they somehow are able to see what others can't because we're not biased. Sometimes people just have a different opinion. Doesn't necessarily mean they're biased.
 
Gibbs is four games into his career, I am glad so many people have determined what kind of player he is going to be already. I think his role will evolve, and the explosive plays will come. Below are Kamara’s first four games. Things can change quickly.

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As a Lion fan I want Gibby to explode and be the weapon he was intended to be. I would like nothing more to see him get 60-60 rushing and receiving Getting some TDs here and there.

With Jameson Williams coming back, and St Brown and LaPorta already having Goffs eye. There is no urgency for production. Only time will tell.
Imagine this team with Jalen Carter instead of Gibbs. Wow.

Yes, That has been mentioned about 1000 times on Detroit Sports Radio. Or Jordon Davis instead of Williams last year.

Would really have help Hutch stay away from all the double teams he is getting now.

I bet.

This is a fascinating situation with as good as Detroit is, they have room to have been a good bit better.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery
 
Gibbs is four games into his career, I am glad so many people have determined what kind of player he is going to be already. I think his role will evolve, and the explosive plays will come. Below are Kamara’s first four games. Things can change quickly.

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As a Lion fan I want Gibby to explode and be the weapon he was intended to be. I would like nothing more to see him get 60-60 rushing and receiving Getting some TDs here and there.

With Jameson Williams coming back, and St Brown and LaPorta already having Goffs eye. There is no urgency for production. Only time will tell.
Imagine this team with Jalen Carter instead of Gibbs. Wow.

Yes, That has been mentioned about 1000 times on Detroit Sports Radio. Or Jordon Davis instead of Williams last year.

Would really have help Hutch stay away from all the double teams he is getting now.

I bet.

This is a fascinating situation with as good as Detroit is, they have room to have been a good bit better.

I think it should be pointed out that it's not really Gibbs vs Carter as their options during the draft. Had they stayed in their slot and took Carter they would not have acquired the pick used on LaPorta. So really it's LaPorta and Gibbs vs Carter. They did good IMO.

But without a doubt it was considered an odd draft after round two last year as most felt they reached in round one and crushed round 2. That opinion has only gotten stronger to the point I would imagine if you polled most NFL execs they'd straight up take their two second round picks over their two first round picks.
 
Gibbs is four games into his career, I am glad so many people have determined what kind of player he is going to be already. I think his role will evolve, and the explosive plays will come. Below are Kamara’s first four games. Things can change quickly.

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As a Lion fan I want Gibby to explode and be the weapon he was intended to be. I would like nothing more to see him get 60-60 rushing and receiving Getting some TDs here and there.

With Jameson Williams coming back, and St Brown and LaPorta already having Goffs eye. There is no urgency for production. Only time will tell.
Imagine this team with Jalen Carter instead of Gibbs. Wow.

Yes, That has been mentioned about 1000 times on Detroit Sports Radio. Or Jordon Davis instead of Williams last year.

Would really have help Hutch stay away from all the double teams he is getting now.

I bet.

This is a fascinating situation with as good as Detroit is, they have room to have been a good bit better.

I think it should be pointed out that it's not really Gibbs vs Carter as their options during the draft. Had they stayed in their slot and took Carter they would not have acquired the pick used on LaPorta. So really it's LaPorta and Gibbs vs Carter. They did good IMO.

But without a doubt it was considered an odd draft after round two last year as most felt they reached in round one and crushed round 2. That opinion has only gotten stronger to the point I would imagine if you polled most NFL execs they'd straight up take their two second round picks over their two first round picks.
This is why I prefer to judge draft classes over specific picks. Otherwise people just cherry pick the picks they like or don't like and ignore the big picture.
 
That makes sense if the point is to evaluate how the teams GM scouting staff and coaches did drafting players for their football team.

The 1st round picks get a lot more attention of course and are much higher value picks. That is where a lot of super star players come from. Reasonable for people to have higher expectations of players drafted in the first round. Especially RBs when players from that position are not drafted in the first round every year. So that puts more of a spotlight on the few who do.

That said I am still not sure if we should consider Gibbs as just a RB. As has been stated many times and again from Fausts post above recently the Lions consider Gibbs a positionless player. Which means he will play in multiple roles and positions for them. They seem to be still trying to figure out how that fits in with the rest of the offense right now. I think what they mean by that also is the positions are filled by other players with more clearly defined roles right now. They dont need Gibbs to fill those roles, but they will work him in to several of those positions at times as they figure out how to best use him.

The bust rate for picks is still high. In the first and all rounds. Half or more of the players drafted in the first round do not live up to those expectations. You see fewer impact players coming from the later rounds despite the inaccuracy of the 1st round. So yeah to what Leroy Hoard is saying the Lions still may have had a good draft even if their 1st round picks dont work out, and you have to judge the GM scouting staff and coaches by how they have built the team overall, not just by their 1st round picks when saying if they did a good job or not.

Quickest example that pops into my mind as a Vikings fan is when they needed quality linebackers in the worst way. They selected Anthony Barr is the first round that draft and Eric Kendricks in the 2nd round. Both players filled their needs at the position but Kendricks was the better of the two players even though he was drafted in the 2nd round and Barr was a very high 1st round pick who was over drafted. It still worked out, just so happens the 2nd round pick was better than the 1st round pick was.
 
He is the classic buy low candidate for sure. Last night was rough. I have Gibbs in my home league.

For people with Gibbs on your roster, what type of players would you accept in a trade?
Follow up question: for those without Gibbs what would you offer? Because I'm going to take a wild guess and say these two answers could be very far apart. Which means he's likely a begrudging hold.
Dameon Pierce
 
I'll reserve judgment until Jameson comes back to take off the top. No one is a real deep threat now.

I'd offer Pacheco.
I don't have Pacheco, but I have Taylor. CBSSPORTS has them rated about the same rest of season. Tough call, lots of uncertainty today.
 
I think this is a situation where we should've followed the money. They didn't pay Montgomery millions to ride the bench. I got caught up in the hype too about Gibbs and drafted him in one league, but I had my doubts and only took him because he fell a bit.
That makes a certain amount of sense, but if we're following the money, how much is a 12th overall pick worth in today's NFL? It has to be in millions, if not more, right? And yet the Lions apparently just set their pick on fire on a guy they didn't need and (we now know) had absolutely zero ideas about how to use.
correct.
it wasnt clear which was going to be more valuable.
but when I saw the Lions lining up Gibbs in various ways around the offense I got to thinking they want to use him to create mismatches in the passing game. Not as much to run the football. I didnt think that would be the top priority with him. At least not this year.
at that point I figured Montgomery was likely a decent pick. and the fact hes a reasonably decent blocker as well will likely keep him on the field a little longer.
I do think Gibbs still has a very bright future but he may take a little longer before your draft pick in dynasty pays off.

that may mean later this season or it may mean sometime next year. hard to say for sure. I do believe at some point he will get the keys to the offense. Its just a matter of time but if you own Gibbs, you will need to be patient.
 
Im guessing the Lions see what most of us non-biased folks see. The guy is just not that good right now. Why take him off the field for a more complete back?

Not sure what you mean there. People can have opinions and not be blinded by "bias."
Some fantasy owners have a bias towards their own players (ie a Gibbs owner saying Montgomery is terrible because his YPC < 4).
Montgomery is a different kind of back. Hes the kind you can run 30 times a game and who will wear down a defense.
so his value is in how often you can run the ball with him. The volume of carries is what makes him valuable. the Yards per carry isnt the best way to judge this particular player.
not to say the stat is meaningless. just not as relevant in this case.
+ pass protection
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Yikes?
NFL playbooks are so hard. Sometimes I think we just assume everyone pick up the 500 plays and the 20 specific variations of those 500 plays. Sounds like maybe he is struggling a bit. I'm guessing of course. Hard to reach full potential when your over thinking what your supposed to actually do on each play. Once again I'm guessing here
 
The Lions offense has been pretty efficient without much help from Gibbs. Williams is coming back has to be worked into the offense now as well.

With a healthy Monty being the bell cow and goal line RB it looks like Gibby will be lucky to get 8-10 carries a game. I want to see them get him more involved in the passing game. Some screens in space, bubble screens, just let him do his thing. But Goff now is looking St. Brown and LaPorta first.

Right now I am thinking Gibby is the type of player that will help the Lions win some football games this season with some big plays, but not help the FF teams as much.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.
 
From the cheap seats at Lambeau last night, I thought Gibbs looked really good running the ball last night. Best he’s looked as a runner this season so far.
He’s looked great to me when he’s been on the field(save for the continuous slipping when he runs routes.)

It’s the usage and utilization that’s most concerning to me. I just expected more than 8 carries and a handful of targets a game.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.
Whoa. Wasn't trying to say your wrong. Was just saying the full context paints a lightly different picture. His comment wasn't he isn't gonna play until the light bulb comes on. In that quote he didn't say anything about not playing until he gets it. He is saying he is gonna get better and when the light bulb does come on he is gonna be special.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
 


For a big chunk of Week 2 against the Atlanta Falcons, Lions running back Jahmyr Gibbs didn't find much room to run. An injury-thinned offensive line didn't help, but during his regular Tuesday appearance on 97.1 The Ticket this week head coach Dan Campbell lightly lamented some unrealized yardage.

"(There) were a couple things, man, I wish he had read a little different."We ran a lot of outside zone, and (he has to) hit that cut a little earlier and cut it upfield," "There were a number of things in there where we felt we were really going to get some explosive runs, and that’s why you run them. You know it may take a minute to get them, but we expected to pop more than we got. We weren’t real clean all the way through the game like we really should be."


In the first half against Atlanta, Gibb has nine carries for 25 yards and six of his first eight carries between the tackles went for two yards or less. It's also safe to say running between the tackles is not really Gibbs' game, and the Falcons' interior defensive line is formidable.

Dan Campbell sees lightbulb coming on for Jahmyr Gibbs​

On the Lions' fourth quarter touchdown drive that sealed the game, Gibbs ripped off runs of 12 and 21 yards on back-to-back plays. On the scoring play, a read-option fake to Gibbs opened up a clear path to the end zone for Jared Goff.

Campbell also noted how Gibbs helped close out the victory.

"What fired me up more than anything was two of the last runs, he hit a 12-yarder and then a 21-yarder," "And that’s in the fourth quarter after getting a bit of a load. I felt like, OK, here we go, he’s starting to find his way and get a little rhythm here. That was really encouraging for me."
"Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

Gibbs finished with 80 yards on 17 carries in a workhorse-style role against the Falcons, with key runs to spark the drive that sealed the win. Even with David Montgomery back in the lineup, facing the Packers' 27th-ranked run defense on Thursday night brings potential of a big night for Gibbs on a primetime stage.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.
Whoa. Wasn't trying to say your wrong. Was just saying the full context paints a lightly different picture. His comment wasn't he isn't gonna play until the light bulb comes on. In that quote he didn't say anything about not playing until he gets it. He is saying he is gonna get better and when the light bulb does come on he is gonna be special.
I know. Wasn't referring to you. Just confirming my own suspicion.

Also agree with you. Nowhere did he say he isn't going to play much until lightbulb came on.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
A little too soon to be concerned with "what could have been". Fantasy players are a fickle bunch. They expect instant gratification, or perhaps that's the way with this current generation.
 
+ pass protection

David Montgomery
  1. @ KCC 29 pass snaps, 19 routes run (all fm HB), 10 pass pro, pass block grade 49.3, 1 target 1 catch 7 yards
  2. SEA 13 pass snaps, 11 routes run (4 wide), 1 pass pro, pass block grade 73.0, 0 targets
  3. @ GB 20 pass snaps, 16 routes run (1 slot, 2 wide), 3 pass pro, p*** block grade 78.2, 2 targets 2 catches 20 yards
    pass block grade for season - 59.1
Jahmyr Gibbs
  1. @ KCC 9 pass snaps, 9 routes run (2 slot, 2 wide), 0 pass pro, pass block grade N/A, 2 target 2 catches 18 yards
  2. SEA 24 pass snaps, 21 routes run (5 slot, 4 wide), 2 pass pro, pass block grade 13.0, 9 targets 7 catches 39 yards
  3. ATL 22 pass snaps, 17 routes run (1 slot, 3 wide), 2 pass pro, pass block grade 75.6, 1 target 1 catch 2 yards
  4. @ GB 14 pass snaps, 14 routes run (3 slot, 3 wide), 0 pass pro, p*** block grade 7.5, 5 targets 4 catches 11 yards
    pass block grade for season - 15.6
yeah that too. forgot to mention that. I knew Montgomery was good and Gibbs being a rookie would need work but the difference is like night and day. The Pass protection is huge.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
A little too soon to be concerned with "what could have been". Fantasy players are a fickle bunch. They expect instant gratification, or perhaps that's the way with this current generation.
Huh? Did you read the article? It was their coach who was a talking about how he expected more.

Lol at "this current generation ".
 
+ pass protection

David Montgomery
  1. @ KCC 29 pass snaps, 19 routes run (all fm HB), 10 pass pro, pass block grade 49.3, 1 target 1 catch 7 yards
  2. SEA 13 pass snaps, 11 routes run (4 wide), 1 pass pro, pass block grade 73.0, 0 targets
  3. @ GB 20 pass snaps, 16 routes run (1 slot, 2 wide), 3 pass pro, p*** block grade 78.2, 2 targets 2 catches 20 yards
    pass block grade for season - 59.1
Jahmyr Gibbs
  1. @ KCC 9 pass snaps, 9 routes run (2 slot, 2 wide), 0 pass pro, pass block grade N/A, 2 target 2 catches 18 yards
  2. SEA 24 pass snaps, 21 routes run (5 slot, 4 wide), 2 pass pro, pass block grade 13.0, 9 targets 7 catches 39 yards
  3. ATL 22 pass snaps, 17 routes run (1 slot, 3 wide), 2 pass pro, pass block grade 75.6, 1 target 1 catch 2 yards
  4. @ GB 14 pass snaps, 14 routes run (3 slot, 3 wide), 0 pass pro, p*** block grade 7.5, 5 targets 4 catches 11 yards
    pass block grade for season - 15.6
What is this week 4 math? Wouldn’t 0 pass pro be N/A like week 1? Average is 33
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
(There) were a couple things, man, I wish he had read a little different."We ran a lot of outside zone, and (he has to) hit that cut a little earlier and cut it upfield," "There were a number of things in there where we felt we were really going to get some explosive runs, and that’s why you run them. You know it may take a minute to get them, but we expected to pop more than we got. We weren’t real clean all the way through the game like we really should be."
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
A little too soon to be concerned with "what could have been". Fantasy players are a fickle bunch. They expect instant gratification, or perhaps that's the way with this current generation.
Huh? Did you read the article? It was their coach who was a talking about how he expected more.

Lol at "this current generation ".
Coach is just trying to get the most out of him thru motivation. You people throwing mud at Gibbs at this point in his career really need to take a step back and understand what you have in Gibbs long term, not after a few games.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
A little too soon to be concerned with "what could have been". Fantasy players are a fickle bunch. They expect instant gratification, or perhaps that's the way with this current generation.
Huh? Did you read the article? It was their coach who was a talking about how he expected more.

Lol at "this current generation ".
Coach is just trying to get the most out of him thru motivation. You people throwing mud at Gibbs at this point in his career really need to take a step back and understand what you have in Gibbs long term, not after a few games.
We get it. You play dynasty.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
A little too soon to be concerned with "what could have been". Fantasy players are a fickle bunch. They expect instant gratification, or perhaps that's the way with this current generation.
Huh? Did you read the article? It was their coach who was a talking about how he expected more.

Lol at "this current generation ".
Coach is just trying to get the most out of him thru motivation. You people throwing mud at Gibbs at this point in his career really need to take a step back and understand what you have in Gibbs long term, not after a few games.
We get it. You play dynasty.
WTF? Are you offended that I mention Gibbs' future instead of just a few games? Sure, redraft is more immediate, we all get that, but when you see a post that goes into future value of Gibbs on your current team, one has to surmise the context. If you don't like dynasty then ignore the post.
 
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+ pass protection

David Montgomery
  1. @ KCC 29 pass snaps, 19 routes run (all fm HB), 10 pass pro, pass block grade 49.3, 1 target 1 catch 7 yards
  2. SEA 13 pass snaps, 11 routes run (4 wide), 1 pass pro, pass block grade 73.0, 0 targets
  3. @ GB 20 pass snaps, 16 routes run (1 slot, 2 wide), 3 pass pro, p*** block grade 78.2, 2 targets 2 catches 20 yards
    pass block grade for season - 59.1
Jahmyr Gibbs
  1. @ KCC 9 pass snaps, 9 routes run (2 slot, 2 wide), 0 pass pro, pass block grade N/A, 2 target 2 catches 18 yards
  2. SEA 24 pass snaps, 21 routes run (5 slot, 4 wide), 2 pass pro, pass block grade 13.0, 9 targets 7 catches 39 yards
  3. ATL 22 pass snaps, 17 routes run (1 slot, 3 wide), 2 pass pro, pass block grade 75.6, 1 target 1 catch 2 yards
  4. @ GB 14 pass snaps, 14 routes run (3 slot, 3 wide), 0 pass pro, p*** block grade 7.5, 5 targets 4 catches 11 yards
    pass block grade for season - 15.6
What is this week 4 math? Wouldn’t 0 pass pro be N/A like week 1? Average is 33

Sometimes the RB chips on the way out
is the algorithm open-source? Looks like a random number generator presented as some sort of science
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.
He is leaving meat on the bone. He's also averaging 4.6 ypc.

His receiving production is where he is falling short, I imagine for the Lions. It's a more difficult aspect of the game than just taking the ball and going. Considering how well he is running I imagine this is fixable.

He's disappointing to fantasy managers that's for sure, but the gap between magic football and the 3-1 Lions is huge.

He may only see 14 opportunities per game RoS. And he may only finish with 1,058 yards on the season with 60 receptions. So long as the Lions keep winning I think they'll be thrilled with that outcome. We're the only ones who will be upset.
 
It's not that he's playing badly as much as it hasn't "clicked" for him just yet. It'll happen soon enough....it's just a matter of staying patient. I'm willing to wait, even if that means benching him for a bit until that light bulb comes on.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
A little too soon to be concerned with "what could have been". Fantasy players are a fickle bunch. They expect instant gratification, or perhaps that's the way with this current generation.
Huh? Did you read the article? It was their coach who was a talking about how he expected more.

Lol at "this current generation ".
Coach is just trying to get the most out of him thru motivation. You people throwing mud at Gibbs at this point in his career really need to take a step back and understand what you have in Gibbs long term, not after a few games.
We get it. You play dynasty.
My attorney will be sending you a cease and desist order for using my shtick without permission.
 
He’s not going to play much until “the lightbulb comes on” according to Dan Campbell. If he’s not getting explosive plays, he is a jag and no better than Montgomery

Can you please share a link for the Campbell quote?
Found it boss. The actual quote is a little different.

So Campbell doesn't think he's playing well. This is exactly what I said.

What part of the article you quoted says Campbell doesn't think he's playing well? https://sidelionreport.com/posts/da...-on-the-bone-in-running-game-for-jahmyr-gibbs
He's been leaving a lot of meat on the bone, unrealized yardage, etc.

That's coach speak for he's not playing well.

Thanks. We'll disagree there. In the context of the coachspeak, I think he's saying what a lot are seeing, he's tough and talented and has room to be better.

And then "Because I think this kid’s pretty tough and I do think he’s got vision and he’s only going to get better with time. When this lightbulb really, really comes on, I think it’s going to be something special. We’ll just keep coaching him up."

This all seems pretty normal and expected. :shrug:
Seriously? The entire first paragraph was about "what could have been".
(There) were a couple things, man, I wish he had read a little different."We ran a lot of outside zone, and (he has to) hit that cut a little earlier and cut it upfield," "There were a number of things in there where we felt we were really going to get some explosive runs, and that’s why you run them. You know it may take a minute to get them, but we expected to pop more than we got. We weren’t real clean all the way through the game like we really should be."
Those are two quotes. Went from "he" to "we". First references Gibbs specifically. Second seems to be talking about the team.
 

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