GreenNGold
Footballguy
Conner is the clear lead back when healthy. People suggesting otherwise are trying too hard to turn backups into starters.
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RB James Conner, ARZ (1 Viewer)
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
He's available in one league. Am I crazy for hesitating to drop Pacheco in order to pick him up? (Also have Clyde).
Back to the waiver wire? I don't know about that part lol .... if there is one thing I have learned this year is that these "beat" writers and fantasy experts don't know anything....
If he plays a lot and their offense stinks again, they will quickly return to what worked last week which was Eno Benjamin and the offense rolling to 47 points... Now I think that a big part of that was Hopkins being back and opening up the defense, and the Saints not being great on Def this year... the biggest thing to watch is if Conner plays any better, cause he has not looked great this season, and we all know he is made of glass
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Seems like an easy pickup to me. Pacheco doesn't seem to be anything special and KC is a pass first offense.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Biggest part was probably the two pick-sixes.
What does that have to do with the running game, and the offense scoring 30 points though?
Conner has not topped 55 rushing yards all year, and is average 3.7 yards a carry... not exactly something to get excited about, but again I think things open up more with Hopkins back
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Thanks for the sanity check. Especially with Pacheco on bye, I can always pick him back up next week.
I've been really scuffling at RB2 all season: Clyde, Hunt, Brian Robinson. Haven't had terrible production, but also don't feel super confident with any of them going forward. And I don't feel all that confident in Conner. But he's one more lottery ticket.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I was mostly just yanking your chain. I do agree that Hopkins seemed to make a big difference
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
So is Eno really "waiver wire" or will they still work him in?
I would not drop him. He was producing before Conner got hurt, and looked far more effective when given the opportunity. At the very least he is a wait and see. Not to mention Conner could get hurt again
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
You probably know as much as the jamokes over at Rotoworld
For reference
Fantasy Points for both players from weeks 1-5
James Conner (Weeks 1-5)
14
6.1
7.2
9.2
6.8
Total: 43.3 points
Eno Benjamin (Weeks 1-5)
8.96
7.4
3.3
5.86
13.18
Total: 38.7 points
Weeks 6 & 7
8
21.3
James Conner as starter and with 54 carries and 14 receptions through 5 weeks (68 touches) (43.3 points)
Eno Benjamin with 30 carries and 12 receptions through first 5 weeks (42 touches) (38.7 points)
They have been working him in all year, and he has been more effective than Conner.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I viewed Conner as a stay away in drafts this year, because I didn’t think he was anything special. I’m fine picking him up now when the cost is zero, but my expectations haven’t really changed (other than that my opinion of AZ’s offense has gone down considerably). I just hope I’m wrong and he turns it around
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I think if anything with Hopkins back that could be back to last year's type of success on offense. Hopkins forces double teams, which opens everything else up. He is also Kyler's Murray's safety net. I don't think it was a coincidence that they did as well as they did last game was the point I was trying to make. In that offense James Conner had 15 rushing TDs, and Chase Edmonds (Eno Benjamin this year) was awesome.
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
Link ?
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Eno rides again
James Conner (ribs) won't play in Week 8 against the Vikings.
Per Kliff Kingsbury, Darrel Williams will be a game-time decision. Conner got in limited sessions on Wednesday and Thursday but was not spotted at practice on Friday. It's possible the rib issue flared up, or the team could simply be working him up to speed for a return next week. Eno Benjamin will draw the start in his place. Williams could steal some work, but Benjamin still looks like a strong RB2 option.Again, this is why you should not listen to "beat" writers, and hopefully everyone kept Benjamin who had him.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Helluva day for Connor
GreenNGold
Footballguy
Well if there was any doubt about Conner's role, Eno is gone now.
James Conner tonight had one of the worst -1 yard runs I have ever seen and basically tripped over himself
Following play caused McCoy’s pass to be intercepted
Next drive fumbled out of bounds .. than fell into the end zone because the Cardinals keep feeding him
He is averaging 2.2 yds a carry … although it is against SF . This is not far from his typical 3 yards per carry
Can someone explain to me why he is still even on an NFL team lol
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Following play caused McCoy’s pass to be intercepted
Next drive fumbled out of bounds .. than fell into the end zone because the Cardinals keep feeding him
He is averaging 2.2 yds a carry … although it is against SF . This is not far from his typical 3 yards per carry
Can someone explain to me why he is still even on an NFL team lol
?GreenNGold
Footballguy
Can someone explain to me why he is still even on an NFL team lol
It's because he's a stud!
grateful zed
Footballguy
(fantasypros) James Conner rushed 25 times for 120 yards and caught all three of his targets for 20 yards and a TD in Arizona's Week 12 loss to the Chargers.
Analysis: Conner was a busy man on Sunday, taking advantage of a plus matchup for his fantasy managers. Unfortunately, he's on a bye next week and faces a tough New England run defense when he's back in action in Week 14.
Analysis: Conner was a busy man on Sunday, taking advantage of a plus matchup for his fantasy managers. Unfortunately, he's on a bye next week and faces a tough New England run defense when he's back in action in Week 14.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Baller
Chaka
Footballguy
Conner is the most pedestrian RB to achieve significant fantasy relevance since IDK... Leroy Hoard? Who, FTR, I love (shout out @Leroy Hoard ).
If Kingsbury were still the coach in Arizona, I think his ADP would be higher but with the new staff it's really difficult to get excited about Conner. Although that's par for the course with Conner.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Feel like Conner is going to be a good move in auction drafts. Either try to sneak him in early to get him cheap (before those who faded RBs are hunting for RBs) or drop him when the first tier of RBs is dwindling. I dunno, the wheels might come off this year but I see myself getting a few shares for the right price.
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm not worried about the wheels coming off because he really never had great wheels to begin with, he's a jack-of-all-trades but master of none. Couple that with an almost guarantee of missing at least three games and an entirely new offensive philosophy on a team that, talent wise, is 100% competing for the #1 overall draft position next season and it is difficult to get excited about any Cardinal this season.
Even if I fade RBs this year I really hope this guy is, at best, a flex option but I guess I could settle on him as my RB two in that scenario.
Zow
Footballguy
Samkon Gado came immediately to mind.
I've never been big on him, on the talent, but he closed the year like a beast on an otherwise dead offense. Sometimes people are overly high on players they own, for me I might be a little overly high on him at the moment because I was facing him all over the place at the end last year and he was a problem to me.
Different coach but considering they might have the worst RB2-4 in the league at the moment, and he's got a fat $9.5M cap number, all of which means he should get plenty of volume and to me at the RB position volume rules, especially if he's a factor in the passing game like he was last year. Considering how bad the team appears to be and light on weapons, with noodle armed McCoy and a likely less mobile Kyler, he seems like a strong bet for a role in the passing game.
The big issue with him that I can't get past is he's not been able to stay on the field for long at if he gets the volume I think he will that won't make it easier.
My guess is he'll come out of the gates very strong and look like a great value, like his performance will be what other people were paying 3+ rounds higher to get. I just don't have a lot of confidence he can sustain it, that he can be a factor when it's time to win championships and cash . He'll probably be at this best when you need him the least and not available or at his worst when you need him the most. If he's any good at the end of the season it would almost have to be like last year with him getting hurt earlier in the year and taking a chunk of time to recover so that he's fairly fresh for the end. He's not a week 1-17 guy.
Different coach but considering they might have the worst RB2-4 in the league at the moment, and he's got a fat $9.5M cap number, all of which means he should get plenty of volume and to me at the RB position volume rules, especially if he's a factor in the passing game like he was last year. Considering how bad the team appears to be and light on weapons, with noodle armed McCoy and a likely less mobile Kyler, he seems like a strong bet for a role in the passing game.
The big issue with him that I can't get past is he's not been able to stay on the field for long at if he gets the volume I think he will that won't make it easier.
My guess is he'll come out of the gates very strong and look like a great value, like his performance will be what other people were paying 3+ rounds higher to get. I just don't have a lot of confidence he can sustain it, that he can be a factor when it's time to win championships and cash . He'll probably be at this best when you need him the least and not available or at his worst when you need him the most. If he's any good at the end of the season it would almost have to be like last year with him getting hurt earlier in the year and taking a chunk of time to recover so that he's fairly fresh for the end. He's not a week 1-17 guy.
FFCollusion
Footballguy
James Conner joined the Arizona Cardinals in 2021.
In 2021 he finished as the 5th best RB overall, ranking 9th in points per game.
In 2022 he missed 4 games, finished as the 19th RB overall, ranking 9th in points per game.
In 2023 he is currently being drafted as RB25.
I know what you're thinking, without Kyler Murray he's going to suck.
Kyler Murray played started his last game in week 12 last year, Conner returned to the team in Week 14.
From Week 14 to Week 17, James Conner was the 4th best RB overall, trailing only the fluke-McKinnon, CMC, and Ekeler.
In those 4 games, he averaged 15.5 carries, 76.5 yards, .75TD + 5.75 targets, 4.75 catches, 32 yards, 0TD
That is a 17 game pace of: 263/1300/13 + 98/81/548/0
Those figures would total 20.1PPG (RB3 last year) and 342 total points. (Also RB3)
98 targets, 81 receptions, and 548 yards, would all individually rank as the 3rd highest of any RB.
Obviously getting 17 weeks is a tall order, but I want to win individual games. When he plays he's a difference maker.
He just turned 28, so not a spry chicken by any means, but he's the same age as Austin Ekeler being drafted top 5 and Conner has only 917 career carries. Derrick Henry is 29 years old and has 1,750 career carries, just for perspective.
In 2021 he finished as the 5th best RB overall, ranking 9th in points per game.
In 2022 he missed 4 games, finished as the 19th RB overall, ranking 9th in points per game.
In 2023 he is currently being drafted as RB25.
I know what you're thinking, without Kyler Murray he's going to suck.
Kyler Murray played started his last game in week 12 last year, Conner returned to the team in Week 14.
From Week 14 to Week 17, James Conner was the 4th best RB overall, trailing only the fluke-McKinnon, CMC, and Ekeler.
In those 4 games, he averaged 15.5 carries, 76.5 yards, .75TD + 5.75 targets, 4.75 catches, 32 yards, 0TD
That is a 17 game pace of: 263/1300/13 + 98/81/548/0
Those figures would total 20.1PPG (RB3 last year) and 342 total points. (Also RB3)
98 targets, 81 receptions, and 548 yards, would all individually rank as the 3rd highest of any RB.
Obviously getting 17 weeks is a tall order, but I want to win individual games. When he plays he's a difference maker.
He just turned 28, so not a spry chicken by any means, but he's the same age as Austin Ekeler being drafted top 5 and Conner has only 917 career carries. Derrick Henry is 29 years old and has 1,750 career carries, just for perspective.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Prime "zero RB" candidate.
