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RB Jaydon Blue, DAL (2 Viewers)
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Panda13
Footballguy
Do you guys think Ollie Gordon is a better stash than Jaydon Blue? I like Blue's chances with only 2 JAGS ahead of him. At the same time Achane's injury may or many not be serious/linger and we know if Miami's offense is clicking, 2 backs can have value in that offense. Thoughts?
pinkstapler
Footballguy
For me, no. And it's not really close. Blue has the most immediate path to touches. And it feels like an overwhelming majority of people are low on Miami this year; fantasy experts, NFL experts, Vegas, etc. Everyone is calling their shot that offense will stink, and it will be a tear down rebuild going into next year. I like Ollie Gordon's talent, but we all know and have experienced a regime change does not bode well for depth chart players on a team. Gordon was drafted by this regime, and the next will likely want to draft their own guys regardless of Gordon's skill level. Not saying it's a definite thing to happen, but another red flag and hurdle that Blue just won't have to jump over. So I like Blue better for this season and the future over Gordon.
dmac37
Footballguy
I'm all in on Blue. This information from Roto Street Journal is very impressive, he is not just a speed guy.
Despite his small frame (5’9”, 198 lbs), Blue is also phenomenal at running through contact. 73% of his rush yards were after contact, #1 in this class. His 4.0 yards after contact/rush were #4 in this class, and his 3.4 YPC when hit at/behind the line-of-scrimmage was #1. He can make something happen out of nothing with the best of them. Ultimately, he took 134 carries for 730 yards (5.4 YPC) and 8 TDs, including a ton of production in the biggest games.
Where Blue really thrived was a receiver. His 25% target rate was #2 in this class, while his 16% slot share was #1. He’s capable of a full route tree, and recorded some impressive contested TD grabs. Ultimately, he hauled in 42 passes for 368 yards and 6 TDs.
Ultimately, Blue might be the best big-play outside zone threat in this class – he averaged 7.3 YPC on these types of runs, which was best in the class. The Cowboys run outside zone at a Top-5 rate, making this a glove-like fit.
Despite his small frame (5’9”, 198 lbs), Blue is also phenomenal at running through contact. 73% of his rush yards were after contact, #1 in this class. His 4.0 yards after contact/rush were #4 in this class, and his 3.4 YPC when hit at/behind the line-of-scrimmage was #1. He can make something happen out of nothing with the best of them. Ultimately, he took 134 carries for 730 yards (5.4 YPC) and 8 TDs, including a ton of production in the biggest games.
Where Blue really thrived was a receiver. His 25% target rate was #2 in this class, while his 16% slot share was #1. He’s capable of a full route tree, and recorded some impressive contested TD grabs. Ultimately, he hauled in 42 passes for 368 yards and 6 TDs.
Ultimately, Blue might be the best big-play outside zone threat in this class – he averaged 7.3 YPC on these types of runs, which was best in the class. The Cowboys run outside zone at a Top-5 rate, making this a glove-like fit.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Absolutely not.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I took Blue over Allen last night in the last of my two big home leagues. From the 1 spot at 11.01 (took Sampson at 10.12). Allen made it back to me at 12.12 where I took him and Woody Marks at 13.01. FWIW but this home league is very rookie averse. Also much of the market is staying away from Jets, just saying. I think the simple answer is it's a coin flip, every league is different and you should go with your instinct on it. I think both players are hits so you kind of can't go wrong. I think Blue has the 3rd down role already and will be involved enough to shine and be relevant week 1. I think there is a path for him to become the 1 to Javonte at a distant number 2 whereas I don't think Breece Hall will ever be worse than 1B unless there is injury or trade. So I kind of give the opportunity edge to Blue but Allen perhaps profiles better in terms of his size. Like I said coin flip. I *think* the Dallas offense is better than New York but I also think NY might have a decent locker room right now and want to win, whereas I have no idea how ugly the Dallas locker room might be.
If it's dumpster fire it's possible that's a good thing for the rookie but on paper the Cowboys are the better offense.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Disappointing but not surprising
barackdhouse
Footballguy
ouch. first body blow of the season for me*. wasn't counting on him anywhere but didn't think this was going to happen. I think this Cowboys team is destined to fall apart and fast. As I understand it they're not even carrying a 3rd RB in the game. That's ludicrous. Eagles might really embarrass them tonight.
rockaction
Footballguy
Never want to hear two things. The rookie you're hoping will win the job is 1) hurt and 2) lazy (?!)
That's a disastrous combination.
zamboni
Footballguy
It’s likely a numbers game - he missed a lot of camp and guessing he doesn’t play special teams. He’ll probably get his chance but may take a bit.
The Frankman
Footballguy
He was a much better back and wasn't called lazy in the preseason.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
that was a BS story and needs to stop being repeated
rockaction
Footballguy
What is the genesis of it then? I'm curious. There's a lot of stuff that once it's out there just can't be retracted and then sometimes there's just a counter to a real story where misinformation is claimed by the party harmed by the story claims misinformation but the counterclaim is actually the real misinformation itself.
rockaction
Footballguy
Never mind. I looked it up. It's too bad that garbage like that happens. Jeez. You'd figure you wouldn't want to lie like that and lose your reputation in the process. Over Jaydon Blue? Is the ten minutes of attention worth it? Criminy.
Achane was inactive his first game and neither back was called lazy in the preseason.*
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Love this as a guy that missed him everywhere, hoping to get some rebound pickups after week 1 waivers
Football Jones
Footballguy
Schotty mentioned Blue, saying you have to be consistent in practice and not be up and down. I believe it was in response to why certain players were inactive.
For the record, I absolutely believe the earlier report about the coaches being disappointed in Blue's work ethic. The latest statement by Schotty didn't necessarily point to laziness, but it's pretty clear they aren't exactly happy with his practice habits.
Blue is going to get his chance, but he's evidently going to have to shape up a little bit. No clue if that chance will come this week, although, Sanders didn't do himself any favors with the fumble.
For the record, I absolutely believe the earlier report about the coaches being disappointed in Blue's work ethic. The latest statement by Schotty didn't necessarily point to laziness, but it's pretty clear they aren't exactly happy with his practice habits.
Blue is going to get his chance, but he's evidently going to have to shape up a little bit. No clue if that chance will come this week, although, Sanders didn't do himself any favors with the fumble.
joey
Footballguy
My patience is directly correlated to what else is on the waiver wire at RB.
