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RB Jaylen Warren, PIT (1 Viewer)

I was trying to decide if he's worth a roster spot or if the Pitt offense is just a wasteland for RBs regardless. He's still out there.
 
I was trying to decide if he's worth a roster spot or if the Pitt offense is just a wasteland for RBs regardless. He's still out there.
It might be tough sledding for whomever they have back there given the OL issues, but Warren clearly gives the running game more juice than Najee does, and this is a team committed to the run (read: Arthur Smith). Artie has no previous ties to Najee, so if he decides Warren gives them the jolt they need, the rotation could conceivably tip towards Warren.
 
I was trying to decide if he's worth a roster spot or if the Pitt offense is just a wasteland for RBs regardless. He's still out there.
It might be tough sledding for whomever they have back there given the OL issues, but Warren clearly gives the running game more juice than Najee does, and this is a team committed to the run (read: Arthur Smith). Artie has no previous ties to Najee, so if he decides Warren gives them the jolt they need, the rotation could conceivably tip towards Warren.
May drop J. Ford for him.
 
Keeper league with a short bench and I have Odunze, Worthy and Wicks but Worthy and Odunze can be kept next year for just $2. I own Najee who sits behind Kyren Williams, JT and Bijan Robinson...

Difficult to see a reason, as the Najee owner, to pick up anyone running behind that o-line.

I don't think I'll race to the waiver wire to grab Warren this week but if he shows a pulse, I've made the wrong decision.
 
I was trying to decide if he's worth a roster spot or if the Pitt offense is just a wasteland for RBs regardless. He's still out there.
It might be tough sledding for whomever they have back there given the OL issues, but Warren clearly gives the running game more juice than Najee does, and this is a team committed to the run (read: Arthur Smith). Artie has no previous ties to Najee, so if he decides Warren gives them the jolt they need, the rotation could conceivably tip towards Warren.
Yea I dropped Alec Pierce for him with the news of Pittman being back. We'll see what happens.
 
Mike Tomlin loves him some Najee, and Najee is the style of back Art Smith prefers.

I think both Tomlin and Smith are very set in their ways, to the point they'd rather be prioritizing a rb one loves and the other prefers, whether it's optimally successful or not.

I love me some Jaylen Warren, and I think he brings much more to the table/more dynamic than Najee, but with these two fellas running the show, I'm not expecting much statistical output from him, unless an injury to Najee forces their hand, unfortunately.
 
Mike Tomlin loves him some Najee, and Najee is the style of back Art Smith prefers.

I think both Tomlin and Smith are very set in their ways, to the point they'd rather be prioritizing a rb one loves and the other prefers, whether it's optimally successful or not.

I love me some Jaylen Warren, and I think he brings much more to the table/more dynamic than Najee, but with these two fellas running the show, I'm not expecting much statistical output from him, unless an injury to Najee forces their hand, unfortunately.
I'm not so sure about the bolded any more. If team brass really loved Najee, one would think they would have picked up his 5th year option (which they declined this past July).
 
Mike Tomlin loves him some Najee, and Najee is the style of back Art Smith prefers.

I think both Tomlin and Smith are very set in their ways, to the point they'd rather be prioritizing a rb one loves and the other prefers, whether it's optimally successful or not.

I love me some Jaylen Warren, and I think he brings much more to the table/more dynamic than Najee, but with these two fellas running the show, I'm not expecting much statistical output from him, unless an injury to Najee forces their hand, unfortunately.
I'm not so sure about the bolded any more. If team brass really loved Najee, one would think they would have picked up his 5th year option (which they declined this past July).
Dont see why Najee can't get a 3 year $18M deal like Montgomery. The dude is not a bad player- just a very specific system and scheme dependent one.
 
..and Najee is the style of back Art Smith prefers.

Ones with limited vision and burst?


I'm not so sure about the bolded any more. If team brass really loved Najee, one would think they would have picked up his 5th year option (which they declined this past July).

That's the thing. How Tomlin feels and how "team brass" feels aren't mutually exclusive. Tomlin can still love Naj while the front office can have a separate opinion.

Omar Khan is an analytics/money guy. Kevin Colbert drafted Najee Harris in the first to "give Ben one more shot at a ring!", ostensibly to limit the punishment Ben continued to take on a pipe dream they'd win a SB behind a Matt Canada O(!?).

I think the fact that Najee wasn't offered the 5th year option tells us precisely what Omar Khan thinks of him, but not necessarily Mike Tomlin.
 
The dude is not a bad player- just a very specific system and scheme dependent one.

This is pretty much what I've always said about him. He's not a "bad" player...just a limited one, and wasn't a guy to burn a first rounder on (Almost no RB is worth that). That's not Harris's fault though.
 
Dont see why Najee can't get a 3 year $18M deal like Montgomery. The dude is not a bad player- just a very specific system and scheme dependent one.
Because he averages 3.3 YPC, is slow, has poor vision, lacks power, and isn’t a great receiver?

Monty >>> Harris

It’s not close. Nobody is giving Harris 3/$18M, IMO.
 
Nobody is giving Harris 3/$18M, IMO.

Still plenty of owners with more money than sense. Nobody should...that doesn't mean nobody will.
Singletary got close to that, 3/$16.5 and in a lot of ways they are similar with respect to they've been two of the most durable RB's the last few years, can offer a three down skill set, solid, just not dynamic in anyway.

So yes possible though Singletary did have some things going for him that Najee probably won't which is an ex-OC who has thing for him and a weak incoming rookie draft class which does not look to be the case this year.
 
I was trying to decide if he's worth a roster spot or if the Pitt offense is just a wasteland for RBs regardless. He's still out there.
It might be tough sledding for whomever they have back there given the OL issues, but Warren clearly gives the running game more juice than Najee does, and this is a team committed to the run (read: Arthur Smith). Artie has no previous ties to Najee, so if he decides Warren gives them the jolt they need, the rotation could conceivably tip towards Warren.
Yea I dropped Alec Pierce for him with the news of Pittman being back. We'll see what happens.
An aside - Pierce has been better than Pittman through the first weeks. Pretty sure Pittman only outscored Pierce two weeks ago and that's it.

Don't drop guys who score points to pick up guys who might score points.
 
Rest of year...in PPR...who would you rather have...J. Warren? Or D. Singletary?

With Singletary ruled out tempted to pick up Warren and hope he takes over.
 
Rest of year...in PPR...who would you rather have...J. Warren? Or D. Singletary?

With Singletary ruled out tempted to pick up Warren and hope he takes over.
Warren is worthy of a pickup regardless. Najee has been extremely mediocre and I am expecting Warren to bring a little more excitement to it, if he’s 100% and has his explosiveness back.

In that regard I’m glad the Steelers rested him as long as they did.
 
Rest of year...in PPR...who would you rather have...J. Warren? Or D. Singletary?

With Singletary ruled out tempted to pick up Warren and hope he takes over.

Probably Warren, but not something I'd lose sleep over.

Tracy looks like fire and Singletary is hurt. Not tough to see Tracy carve out more PT in his absence, while the Steelers really need Warren to pop and hopefully spark something on O (and Id assume they will ramp up his touches in an attempt to do so). It probably wont work, but there is at least a narrative for it to happen there.
 
Rest of year...in PPR...who would you rather have...J. Warren? Or D. Singletary?

With Singletary ruled out tempted to pick up Warren and hope he takes over.
Warren. I can see Tracy taking over for Singletary by fantasy playoffs. Even if Warren doesn't you rolled the dice on a higher upside player
 
Mike Tomlin loves him some Najee, and Najee is the style of back Art Smith prefers.

I think both Tomlin and Smith are very set in their ways, to the point they'd rather be prioritizing a rb one loves and the other prefers, whether it's optimally successful or not.

I love me some Jaylen Warren, and I think he brings much more to the table/more dynamic than Najee, but with these two fellas running the show, I'm not expecting much statistical output from him, unless an injury to Najee forces their hand, unfortunately.
I'm not so sure about the bolded any more. If team brass really loved Najee, one would think they would have picked up his 5th year option (which they declined this past July).
Not picking up the 5th year option and not resigning are two different things. I wouldn’t be surprised if they resign him.
 
Mike Tomlin loves him some Najee, and Najee is the style of back Art Smith prefers.

I think both Tomlin and Smith are very set in their ways, to the point they'd rather be prioritizing a rb one loves and the other prefers, whether it's optimally successful or not.

I love me some Jaylen Warren, and I think he brings much more to the table/more dynamic than Najee, but with these two fellas running the show, I'm not expecting much statistical output from him, unless an injury to Najee forces their hand, unfortunately.
I'm not so sure about the bolded any more. If team brass really loved Najee, one would think they would have picked up his 5th year option (which they declined this past July).
Not picking up the 5th year option and not resigning are two different things. I wouldn’t be surprised if they resign him.
Does anyone know how much the steelers would have been on the hook for if they picked up his option? Because I can totally see it being a cost saving/cap space move for his second contract.
 
Monty just picked up his third contract - Detroit tacked on two more years at $18.25M total, $10.5M GTD.

In his 6th season, David is only 9 months older than Najee.


Picked Warren up off the scrap heap this week. If Russ was cookin' I might be tempted to slide him in over Cook (who now looks like he might play.)

Jaylen should have some flex appeal if he can stay on the field.
 
I'm not so sure about the bolded any more. If team brass really loved Najee, one would think they would have picked up his 5th year option (which they declined this past July).
100%. if they loved him as much as some here think, they would have picked up his 5th year option. I like him but dont love him. he doesnt seem to break a lot of tackles like I hoped he would guy should be able to run like Henry but there just seems to be no juice there.
Najee has been extremely mediocre and I am expecting Warren to bring a little more excitement to it, if he’s 100% and has his explosiveness back.

In that regard I’m glad the Steelers rested him as long as they did.
Yeah, at 3.2 yards per carry I would say Mediocre is a kind way to describe this. I know the poor line play has done their part to help on this, but 3.2 is not scaring anyone. I think at some point they have to try Warren. Leaving things as they are now wont make it better. Warren is definitely faster, so I think he will add an element to the run game that has been lacking. (provided he is healthy enough to play at full speed)
 
Would any of you drop Najee for Warren straight up? Najee is the type of player I hate rostering but know someone would pick him up
 
Would any of you drop Najee for Warren straight up? Najee is the type of player I hate rostering but know someone would pick him up

Assuming he is healthy I feel like Warren has a higher ceiling but Najee a safer floor.

Warren has big play potential. Najee just doesn’t seem like he does.
 
Would any of you drop Najee for Warren straight up? Najee is the type of player I hate rostering but know someone would pick him up
I feel like Najee has enough name recognition that you can get a 3rd out of someone.
In redraft though?
Oh yeah, highest upside is clearly Warren. As I said up thread, Najee isn't even playing like a flex option at this point. I would even gamble on a guy like Gibson at this point.
 
16 & 13 touches the last two weeks

Nasty weather so he might in line for targets + should get a healthy dose of carries

Should be a low scoring affair so not a great Flex but lots of RBs out this week
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
Probably the most likely case. Don’t see Warren getting to prime Ekeler usage unfortunately but he’s a good IRL player. Fortunate he bailed us out on the bye weeks!
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
Who says Warren will resign in Pittsburgh?

I see no way, whether Najee leaves or not, or Warren signs elsewhere, that he’ll will be given a lead role.

For me, I’d sell for just about anything.
 
Outscored Najee 15.40-7.40
I like Najee and all and I get that he's reliable and doesn't fumble, but Warren is just a better, more dynamic runner. I don't understand Tomlin's stubbornness in continuing to give Najee more touches than Warren when they are both healthy. The Steelers offense isn't exactly explosive and Warren gives them a better chance to break off a chunk play. Big part of why they lost last night IMO. A first down wins them the game and Warren nowhere in sight.
 
Outscored Najee 15.40-7.40
I like Najee and all and I get that he's reliable and doesn't fumble, but Warren is just a better, more dynamic runner. I don't understand Tomlin's stubbornness in continuing to give Najee more touches than Warren when they are both healthy. The Steelers offense isn't exactly explosive and Warren gives them a better chance to break off a chunk play. Big part of why they lost last night IMO. A first down wins them the game and Warren nowhere in sight.
Harris has pics of Tomlin in precarious situation:)
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
Who says Warren will resign in Pittsburgh?

I see no way, whether Najee leaves or not, or Warren signs elsewhere, that he’ll will be given a lead role.

For me, I’d sell for just about anything.
Warren is a free agent as well? I did not know that.
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
Who says Warren will resign in Pittsburgh?

I see no way, whether Najee leaves or not, or Warren signs elsewhere, that he’ll will be given a lead role.

For me, I’d sell for just about anything.
Warren is a free agent as well? I did not know that.
Sorry. I was wrong. He’s a RFA.
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
Who says Warren will resign in Pittsburgh?

I see no way, whether Najee leaves or not, or Warren signs elsewhere, that he’ll will be given a lead role.

For me, I’d sell for just about anything.
He's a good player, was hurt earlier in the year, think his role will continue to grow a bit. Will he get a lead role? Maybe not, but selling for "anything" is non-sensical.
 
I’m in a dynasty league where the Harris owner wants Warren as the “handcuff”. But if Harris doesn’t resign then Warren’s value obviously skyrockets. I figured with it being a dynasty league I can hold him until next season and worst case his value stays the same as a high end handcuff.
I think Warren is a good hold vs what you can get, but worst case is a better and younger RB than Najee joining the backfield.
Who says Warren will resign in Pittsburgh?

I see no way, whether Najee leaves or not, or Warren signs elsewhere, that he’ll will be given a lead role.

For me, I’d sell for just about anything.
He's a good player, was hurt earlier in the year, think his role will continue to grow a bit. Will he get a lead role? Maybe not, but selling for "anything" is non-sensical.
I’d take a couple of 3’s for sure. What would you sell for? There’s lots of “good” RBs and a bunch more coming next season.

I don’t think he’ll ever be a consistent difference maker and is a bit of a roster clogger.
 
He's Austin Ekeler without ever being in an similarly good situation. That can of course change.

For the life of me I don't understand why a team so short on receiving options does not design more passes to him. I'm not talking about his number of receptions, those are mainly last resort dump off's where he gets the ball standing still with little to no room, it's very rare that something is actually schemed for him.
 
He's Austin Ekeler without ever being in an similarly good situation. That can of course change.

For the life of me I don't understand why a team so short on receiving options does not design more passes to him. I'm not talking about his number of receptions, those are mainly last resort dump off's where he gets the ball standing still with little to no room, it's very rare that something is actually schemed for him.
It’s not like Najee can’t catch the ball either. They just don’t do it. Makes no sense.
 

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