RB Jaylen Wright, MIA (1 Viewer)

[kyoun1e]

Is Mostert actually hurt? Or is it a case they are sitting him so they can move to Wright as the legit #2?

Tempted to pick him up if the latter.

 

[metoo]

Team Achane told y’all but you didn’t listen.

You didn't tell me anything. I told everyone Wright is more for the dynasty future than 2024, but could get 2024 action if an injury happens

Team Achane

 

[JohnnyU]

Team Achane told y’all but you didn’t listen.

You didn't tell me anything. I told everyone Wright is more for the dynasty future than 2024, but could get 2024 action if an injury happens

Team Achane

Well, I did say Wright was more for the future than 2024 Yes, 2024 has been a bust, but I also said he could be viable if there was an injury. Not sure this was worthy of a I told you so reply.

 

[metoo]

Team Achane told y’all but you didn’t listen.

You didn't tell me anything. I told everyone Wright is more for the dynasty future than 2024, but could get 2024 action if an injury happens

Team Achane

Well, I did say Wright was more for the future than 2024 Yes, 2024 has been a bust, but I also said he could be viable if there was an injury. Not sure this was worthy of a I told you so reply.

They will draft another rb.

 

[JohnnyU]

Team Achane told y’all but you didn’t listen.

You didn't tell me anything. I told everyone Wright is more for the dynasty future than 2024, but could get 2024 action if an injury happens

Team Achane

Well, I did say Wright was more for the future than 2024 Yes, 2024 has been a bust, but I also said he could be viable if there was an injury. Not sure this was worthy of a I told you so reply.

They will draft another rb.

Alrighty then
-Ace Ventura

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed. That's not a good look for a RB that plays in such a running back friendly offense. I was always an Achane backer, but also thought Wright could possibly turn this into a 1A/1B situation like it was last year. How'd it all end? They put a 32 year old Mostert back in over this schmuck, a 32 year old Mostert that's averaging 3.3 yards per carry, the lowest of his career. A Mostert that has lost 2 fumbles, the most of his career. A Mostert that has missed multiple games per injury and only found the endzone twice. Yeah, Wright couldn't supplant THAT guy.

In a day and age where RBs are a dime a dozen in the draft, I just don't see it happening for Wright at this point. He was a 4th round draft pick. He had a nice game against the Patriots in early October, but he didn't do much before then, and then pulled a Houdini ever since. This year was painful to watch. Wright only caught 3 passes and averaged 4.1 yards per carry. He couldn't supplant a 32 year old washed RB. Painful.

I agree with the previous poster. It's likely the Dolphins go back to the well in the 2025 draft. It's also likely they regret giving up on Brooks while holding Mostert/Wright/Wilson.

 

[zamboni]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed.

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Even Achane has struggled on the ground this year. Not that YPC is the most relevant stat, but Achane’s metric is only 3.9 on the year, exactly half of last year. He’s more than made up for it fantasy-wise being so involved in the passing game - which is indicative of the OL issues that have plagued the offense overall.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed.

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Even Achane has struggled on the ground this year. Not that YPC is the most relevant stat, but Achane’s metric is only 3.9 on the year, exactly half of last year. He’s more than made up for it fantasy-wise being so involved in the passing game - which is indicative of the OL issues that have plagued the offense over all.

I would agree YPC is not always the most important stat, but what's most concerning to me is that Wright couldn't take the job from Mostert. Mostert is washed. Maybe it wasn't realistic to think Wright could take the 1A/1B role Mostert he had last year, but he couldn't even grab the primary spell/backup role Mostert has right now? That's a problem to me. Also concerning to me is Wright's 3 receptions on 160 snaps this season. I expected more from him in that area, especially with the Dolphins. It's easy for a team to give up on a 4th round RB, it happens every year. It's also rare that 4th round RBs turn into anything if they don't flash when given the initial opportunity. Wright has a lot of holes in his game he needs to fix to be an effective NFL running back.

 

[zamboni]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed.

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Even Achane has struggled on the ground this year. Not that YPC is the most relevant stat, but Achane’s metric is only 3.9 on the year, exactly half of last year. He’s more than made up for it fantasy-wise being so involved in the passing game - which is indicative of the OL issues that have plagued the offense over all.

I would agree YPC is not always the most important stat, but what's most concerning to me is that Wright couldn't take the job from Mostert. Mostert is washed. Maybe it wasn't realistic to think Wright could take the 1A/1B role Mostert he had last year, but he couldn't even grab the primary spell/backup role Mostert has right now? That's a problem to me. Also concerning to me is Wright's 3 receptions on 160 snaps this season. I expected more from him in that area, especially with the Dolphins. It's easy for a team to give up on a 4th round RB, it happens every year. It's also rare that 4th round RBs turn into anything if they don't flash when given the initial opportunity. Wright has a lot of holes in his game he needs to fix to be an effective NFL running back.

Fair points - truth be told, we don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Maybe they’re using Mostert more for his blocking ability to overcome some of the line issues and to protect Tua from further head damage. Hard to say but I’m sure the offseason will be telling which direction they go in.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed.

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Even Achane has struggled on the ground this year. Not that YPC is the most relevant stat, but Achane’s metric is only 3.9 on the year, exactly half of last year. He’s more than made up for it fantasy-wise being so involved in the passing game - which is indicative of the OL issues that have plagued the offense over all.

I would agree YPC is not always the most important stat, but what's most concerning to me is that Wright couldn't take the job from Mostert. Mostert is washed. Maybe it wasn't realistic to think Wright could take the 1A/1B role Mostert he had last year, but he couldn't even grab the primary spell/backup role Mostert has right now? That's a problem to me. Also concerning to me is Wright's 3 receptions on 160 snaps this season. I expected more from him in that area, especially with the Dolphins. It's easy for a team to give up on a 4th round RB, it happens every year. It's also rare that 4th round RBs turn into anything if they don't flash when given the initial opportunity. Wright has a lot of holes in his game he needs to fix to be an effective NFL running back.

Fair points - truth be told, we don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Maybe they’re using Mostert more for his blocking ability to overcome some of the line issues and to protect Tua from further head damage. Hard to say but I’m sure the offseason will be telling which direction they go in.

That's possible. It's also possible his vision flat out sucks which was a concern during the draft. I never really understood the Kamara comparisons because of this. Kamara's vision made him who he is, his vision was elite, maybe the best of all time. Wright seems like an elite athlete that has never really figured out how to play the RB position. I was hoping for more.

Brooks is a better version of what Wright was supposed to be. The Dolphins wet the bed with that one.

 

[Big Nate]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

 

[C & C]

I agree with pretty much everything here.

But I also gave up on Tank Bigsby after he couldn't get ahead of Earnest Johnson last year. As such I have learned to have a bit more patience.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I agree with pretty much everything here.

But I also gave up on Tank Bigsby after he couldn't get ahead of Earnest Johnson last year. As such I have learned to have a bit more patience.

He looked good this year, great at times early on. Like he did a lot of conditioning/agility work in the offseason. Who knows, but he's a good name to throw out there as an exception to the rule.

 

[Big Nate]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

 

[JohnnyU]

I agree with pretty much everything here.

But I also gave up on Tank Bigsby after he couldn't get ahead of Earnest Johnson last year. As such I have learned to have a bit more patience.

He looked good this year, great at times early on. Like he did a lot of conditioning/agility work in the offseason. Who knows, but he's a good name to throw out there as an exception to the rule.

Anyone that gives up on Wright after his rookie season should probably stick to redraft. Are we giving up on Harrison Jr? Looks like Kendre Miller is going to get his chance. I bet a lot gave up on him too and he has an extra year on Wright. What did Chase Brown do his rookie year?

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

Eric Dickerson was a runner that ran upright and had explosiveness.

 

[Chaka]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

 

[Todem]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Their OL is an abortion.

 

[Chaka]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Their OL is an abortion.

I'm just trying to figure out when he got an extended look.

And how he failed.

 

[Todem]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Their OL is an abortion.

I'm just trying to figure out when he got an extended look.

And how he failed.

He has never gotten an extended look.

 

[JohnnyU]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Their OL is an abortion.

I'm just trying to figure out when he got an extended look.

And how he failed.

He has never gotten an extended look.

Don’t mess with the narrative

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Jaylen Wright has played more snaps (160) this season than all of the running backs taken before him in the NFL draft. Take that for what it's worth because two of those were injury related, but the other two were highly touted prospects in this draft. Jon Brooks(23), Benson(137), Corum(95) and Lloyd(10). Benson and Corum have looked absolutely special at times. They are also playing behind two of the best running backs in the league, work horses. If they get a chance, I have little doubt they will succeed in the NFL based on the limited action I've seen.

The only rookies to have played more snaps than Wright this season were Irving who has seen just over double the snaps that Wright has seen, Allen who has played 240, plus Davis, Steele and Guerendo whose snaps were roughly in line with Wright's. Steele and Guerendo were thrust into the spotlight due to injuries with varying degrees of success. Irving, Allen and Davis forced their way up the depth charts with good play.

Bottom line is this, Wright has seen a significant number of snaps this season and the fact is, he has been ineffective. If you don't show something with your touches, targets and blocking assignments, you're not going to stay on the field. Wright has simply not passed the eye test, and worse, has obviously not earned the trust of his team.

I see there are a lot of fanboys that still exist in this thread, but I'm sorry to break the news, this guy is a BUST. He's a 4th round pick. He can run fast. So what? Clock's ticking. Better learn to play special teams ASAP.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Source?

 

[Chaka]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Source?

I'm still waiting to hear about this extended look he got and how he failed in said look?

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Their OL is an abortion.

I'm just trying to figure out when he got an extended look.

And how he failed.

He has never gotten an extended look.

Semantics, or poor choice of words on my part I suppose. Let me rephrase, he's been given the opportunity to take on the #2 role and if he'd have shown something, I have no doubt his snap % and touches would have increased. Achane is great, but there is no way they want him playing 70-80% of the snaps long term. That number is in line with Bijan and well ahead of Gibbs.

Fact is, Wright has not looked special and obviously hasn't earned the trust of the team. He had holes in his game pre-draft. He has the same holes in his game to this day. They have not been fixed. Unless the lightbulb suddenly goes on for the kid, he's done. And for players like him drafted where he was, that's rare to happen after a poor initial showing.

 

[Monkian]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

Speaking of the Mostert comparison, Raheem was 26 y/o before he got his first real looks and 27 when he "broke out."

 

[JohnnyU]

Jaylen Wright has played more snaps (160) this season than all of the running backs taken before him in the NFL draft. Take that for what it's worth because two of those were injury related, but the other two were highly touted prospects in this draft. Jon Brooks(23), Benson(137), Corum(95) and Lloyd(10). Benson and Corum have looked absolutely special at times. They are also playing behind two of the best running backs in the league, work horses. If they get a chance, I have little doubt they will succeed in the NFL based on the limited action I've seen.

The only rookies to have played more snaps than Wright this season were Irving who has seen just over double the snaps that Wright has seen, Allen who has played 240, plus Davis, Steele and Guerendo whose snaps were roughly in line with Wright's. Steele and Guerendo were thrust into the spotlight due to injuries with varying degrees of success. Irving, Allen and Davis forced their way up the depth charts with good play.

Bottom line is this, Wright has seen a significant number of snaps this season and the fact is, he has been ineffective. If you don't show something with your touches, targets and blocking assignments, you're not going to stay on the field. Wright has simply not passed the eye test, and worse, has obviously not earned the trust of his team.

I see there are a lot of fanboys that still exist in this thread, but I'm sorry to break the news, this guy is a BUST. He's a 4th round pick. He can run fast. So what? Clock's ticking. Better learn to play special teams ASAP.

I think eventually you and your eye test will be eating crow

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

And for whoever brought up Eric Dickerson, that's great and all, but you didn't have to go back 40 years to show me a RB that had success as an upright runner. At no point did I say upright runners CAN'T be successful in the NFL, I simply stated they're rare. They're anomalies. But look no further than the current Dolphins. Raheem Mostert has always been an upright runner with elite athletic ability. He's beaten the odds and had a nice career. Last season was absolutely special for him. I thought maybe Wright could be that. I'm pretty sure the Dolphins did as well. Now? Not so much..., not in my opinion. He has not worked hard enough on his deficiencies and he has not flashed with the exception of a carry or two when there's been massive holes.

Some guys get on the NFL field and disappoint (Steele, Vidal). Some blow away expectations. (Davis, Bucky. That's the way of the NFL. Holding on to hope won't get you anywhere. I'm not afraid to pull the plug early on guys like this. Sometimes that's the wrong decision, sometimes I get value now where there will be none later. It's a decision. It's a strategy. It's worked for me. 4th round running backs that don't flash with early opportunities rarely see future success. If you disagree with that sentiment, fine, please provide examples.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

Speaking of the Mostert comparison, Raheem was 26 y/o before he got his first real looks and 27 when he "broke out."

Correct, and I'm not really as concerned as to when someone gets the opportunity, but what they do with it when it comes. Mostert's first "good" year with the 49ers was 2019, but I would argue he passed the eye test and looked special with limited touches in 2018. Something like what Chase Brown showed with Cincinnati late last season. Some guys just have "it," some guys don't. The reasons why vary to a great degree.

 

[Chaka]

They gave him an extended look in the backup role. He failed

They did?

He did?

Stopped reading at that point, awaiting answers.

He is firmly in the Dolphins plans for 2025 make no mistake.

Their OL is an abortion.

I'm just trying to figure out when he got an extended look.

And how he failed.

He has never gotten an extended look.

Semantics, or poor choice of words on my part I suppose. Let me rephrase, he's been given the opportunity to take on the #2 role and if he'd have shown something, I have no doubt his snap % and touches would have increased. Achane is great, but there is no way they want him playing 70-80% of the snaps long term. That number is in line with Bijan and well ahead of Gibbs.

Fact is, Wright has not looked special and obviously hasn't earned the trust of the team. He had holes in his game pre-draft. He has the same holes in his game to this day. They have not been fixed. Unless the lightbulb suddenly goes on for the kid, he's done. And for players like him drafted where he was, that's rare to happen after a poor initial showing.

I think that is one interpretation. Considering the system McDaniel comes from it wouldn't shock me if he just likes to beat the hell out of his lead RB until he breaks then beat the hell out of the next man up.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

Also, in response to "your eye test will be eating a lot of crow." What does this even mean? SMDH. Have you watched the games? Do you have any substantive arguments that would actually lead a rational individual to thinking Wright will be a meaningful cog in this wheel? Ever? What? He's fast? He looked good in college? What else? Show me some plays from his 160 snaps that show how his abilities translate to being a productive NFL running back.

 

[JohnnyU]

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

Also, in response to "your eye test will be eating a lot of crow." What does this even mean? SMDH. Have you watched the games? Do you have any substantive arguments that would actually lead a rational individual to thinking Wright will be a meaningful cog in this wheel? Ever? What? He's fast? He looked good in college? What else? Show me some plays from his 160 snaps that show how his abilities translate to being a productive NFL running back.

I've commented on my thoughts on Wright back just before the NFL draft and prep for my rookie drafts, so I'm not going to repeat that here. Search if you want to.

 

[menobrown]

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

I don't view that as the case this year and that would be a bad sign for Wright except for fact he relegated Mostert from being an almost equal part of a RBBC to clear cut distanct backup/secondary option. To me it looks like McDaniels adjusted, whether that has to do with liking what Achane offers versus not liking what the other RB's offered is at question.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

I don't view that as the case this year and that would be a bad sign for Wright except for fact he relegated Mostert from being an almost equal part of a RBBC to clear cut distanct backup/secondary option. To me it looks like McDaniels adjusted, whether that has to do with liking what Achane offers versus not liking what the other RB's offered is at question.

Wilson got hurt, Mostert is 32, ineffective, and has most certainly lost a step, they let Brooks walk and Wright has been a liability on the field. I lean more towards the “McDaniel didn’t have a choice” line of thinking. I look back at the game where Tua was out, the game was out of hand, and they just kept pounding DA into the heart of the defense. No way that would be his first choice of action in that situation. McDaniel has no good options at this point.

I would bet the Dolphins use another round 2 - 4 pick at RB in the 2025 draft. They need a banger, but one that can also catch, like Chris Brooks... This seems like a good draft to get that, and there seems to be value there with the depth of this draft at RB.

They also need help on the O-line, obviously. They’ve made some nice picks in the McDaniel era despite limited draft capital, and Malik Washington looks like he’s going to be a weapon. It’s time to stop using mid/late round picks on WR and address other needs. Picks on Ezukanma, Higgins and T Washington look like wasted picks.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

I don't view that as the case this year and that would be a bad sign for Wright except for fact he relegated Mostert from being an almost equal part of a RBBC to clear cut distanct backup/secondary option. To me it looks like McDaniels adjusted, whether that has to do with liking what Achane offers versus not liking what the other RB's offered is at question.

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

I don't view that as the case this year and that would be a bad sign for Wright except for fact he relegated Mostert from being an almost equal part of a RBBC to clear cut distanct backup/secondary option. To me it looks like McDaniels adjusted, whether that has to do with liking what Achane offers versus not liking what the other RB's offered is at question.

Wilson got hurt, Mostert is 32, ineffective, and has most certainly lost a step, they let Brooks walk and Wright has been a liability on the field. I lean more towards the “McDaniel didn’t have a choice” line of thinking. I look back at the game where Tua was out, the game was out of hand, and they just kept pounding DA into the heart of the defense. No way that would be his first choice of action in that situation. McDaniel has no good options at this point.

I would bet the Dolphins use another round 2 - 4 pick at RB in the 2025 draft. They need a banger, but one that can also catch, like Chris Brooks... This seems like a good draft to get that, and there seems to be value there with the depth of this draft at RB.

They also need help on the O-line, obviously. They’ve made some nice picks in the McDaniel era despite limited draft capital, and Malik Washington looks like he’s going to be a weapon. It’s time to stop using mid/late round picks on WR and address other needs. Picks on Ezukanma, Higgins and T Washington look like wasted picks.

I’ll just add, Mostert is 32 and for the first time in his career looks sluggish and slow.

Mostert had 1200 YFS and 21 TDs last year. As much as I like Achane, I might be his biggest fan, he wasn’t going to put that version of Mostert on the bench if he showed up again in 2024.

 

[menobrown]

I’ll just add, Mostert is 32 and for the first time in his career looks sluggish and slow.

I get all that but it's hard for me to think he fell off that much in a year.

The fact Achane struggled so much as a runner versus last season but he made him more of a focal point just makes me inclined to think this was less about Mostert or Wright's performance and more about wanting to make Achane more of a focal point in his second season. This offense in general has just been weird this year, they could have just lined Tyreek up at RB and ran this offense all year but my point on that is he seemed to prioritize pass catching skills from his RB position this season more then just raw running ability.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I’ll just add, Mostert is 32 and for the first time in his career looks sluggish and slow.

I get all that but it's hard for me to think he fell off that much in a year.

The fact Achane struggled so much as a runner versus last season but he made him more of a focal point just makes me inclined to think this was less about Mostert or Wright's performance and more about wanting to make Achane more of a focal point in his second season. This offense in general has just been weird this year, they could have just lined Tyreek up at RB and ran this offense all year but my point on that is he seemed to prioritize pass catching skills from his RB position this season more then just raw running ability.

Why is it hard to believe? The cliff is sudden and steep at the position he plays. Guys don't go usually become less productive, slowly over time. Their downfall is usually sharp, and sudden. It's even worse for guys that rely on speed.

I've been a very vocal backer of Achane's durability from the start, even at this size. But I'm also realistic enough to know a big thing hitting a small thing always has a larger effect on the smaller thing. It's physics. Achane isn't built to run between the tackles as the focal point of the offense. I love keeping defenses on their toes. I love that he's even being used in the slot. But still, if they don't add someone that can help shoulder the load his career will undoubtedly be shortened.

He should be the 1A, but he needs a 1B. He needs a David Montgomery. He need a Tyler Allgeier. Giving up touches to a guy like this won't decrease his effectiveness, it should increase it.

 

[Chaka]

Except that's not at all what McDaniel has shown since taking over in Miami. The proof is in the pudding. He has very much shown he favors a committee approach as a head coach through his first 3 years.

Maybe this is another situation of semantics or poor choice of words.

Achane is just shy of tripling up Mostert and quadrupling Wright for touches. I don't know how one defines bell cow but Achane is in the conversation. If he was remotely near McCaffrey's stratosphere of ability, I imagine the touch disparity would be even great. That's the way it works with transcendent RBs.

I guess I could make a fun point of the fact that Achane has a better YPC (4.1) than both Achane (3.9) & Mostert (3.4) but we both understand how limited that analysis would be.

You're premature closing the book on Wright and I have to think your stance isn't entirely about what is happening on the field. I don't imagine you have reason to not like him as a human being, maybe you hate the Volunteers or maybe you're just having a laugh in this thread.

Your between the lines analysis doesn't seem to have a strong foundation.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I call it like I see it. What one thing has he shown you on the NFL field to make you believe he will be a successful NFL running back? All you do is attack my take, but provide no reasonable or logical analysis of his play to suggest he will be anything more than a bust.

Running back is the easiest skill position to play in the entire NFL. There is very little learning curve. That's why guys who have it, show it. Wright's shown nothing other than his inability to be effective or trustworthy as an NFL running back.

 

[Chaka]

I call it like I see it. What one thing has he shown you on the NFL field to make you believe he will be a successful NFL running back? All you do is attack my take, but provide no reasonable or logical analysis of his play to suggest he will be anything more than a bust.

Running back is the easiest skill position to play in the entire NFL. There is very little learning curve. That's why guys who have it, show it. Wright's shown nothing other than his inability to be effective or trustworthy as an NFL running back.

I do other things.

Everything is about context, IMO. I am looking for the context where we can look at Wright and close the book on his career based on 65 NFL touches.

As far as why he may be successful? LI never said he's going to be successful, I have very few opinions about him.

I'm not the one making a hot take, I'm just asking you to explain yours.

 

[menobrown]

Why is it hard to believe? The cliff is sudden and steep at the position he plays. Guys don't go usually become less productive, slowly over time. Their downfall is usually sharp, and sudden. It's even worse for guys that rely on speed.

I can't say I agree with this.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Why is it hard to believe? The cliff is sudden and steep at the position he plays. Guys don't go usually become less productive, slowly over time. Their downfall is usually sharp, and sudden. It's even worse for guys that rely on speed.

I can't say I agree with this.

Really? Why not? Look at some of the speedier backs in NFL history that also happen to be near the top of the rushing record, and look at the end of their careers. I'm talking about guys like Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson, Gale Sayers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Tony Dorsett, Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas, LeSean McCoy, Warrick Dunn, etc. For all of these guys, they were GREAT...until they weren't. There came a point in all of their careers where their ability and production simply fell off a cliff. Some were allowed to play longer after that wall than others, probably because of name recognition, but their significant drop in production is undeniable. Sure there are some power backs that faded slower as they adapted to their limited physical tools, and then you have inhuman players like Emmitt, Gore, and AP that simply beat Father Time, time and again, but for the most part is there's always a wall.

 

[menobrown]

Why is it hard to believe? The cliff is sudden and steep at the position he plays. Guys don't go usually become less productive, slowly over time. Their downfall is usually sharp, and sudden. It's even worse for guys that rely on speed.

I can't say I agree with this.

Really? Why not? Look at some of the speedier backs in NFL history that also happen to be near the top of the rushing record, and look at the end of their careers. I'm talking about guys like Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson, Gale Sayers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Tony Dorsett, Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas, LeSean McCoy, Warrick Dunn, etc. For all of these guys, they were GREAT...until they weren't. There came a point in all of their careers where their ability and production simply fell off a cliff. Some were allowed to play longer after that wall than others, probably because of name recognition, but their significant drop in production is undeniable. Sure there are some power backs that faded slower as they adapted to their limited physical tools, and then you have inhuman players like Emmitt, Gore, and AP that simply beat Father Time, time and again, but for the most part is there's always a wall.

I don’t want to keep going around and around.

I could sit here and list out just as many RB’s who did not fall off a cliff, or did not have take a straight line decline. Then that likely spawns off into a difference of opinion on those players rate of decline and I’m not looking to get sucked into that worm hole.

Plus Mostert is extremely unique to be his age with that light of a career workload.

I’m just going to leave at not having conclusive data to agree with your assertion that Mostert fell off the cliff.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Why is it hard to believe? The cliff is sudden and steep at the position he plays. Guys don't go usually become less productive, slowly over time. Their downfall is usually sharp, and sudden. It's even worse for guys that rely on speed.

I can't say I agree with this.

Really? Why not? Look at some of the speedier backs in NFL history that also happen to be near the top of the rushing record, and look at the end of their careers. I'm talking about guys like Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson, Gale Sayers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Tony Dorsett, Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas, LeSean McCoy, Warrick Dunn, etc. For all of these guys, they were GREAT...until they weren't. There came a point in all of their careers where their ability and production simply fell off a cliff. Some were allowed to play longer after that wall than others, probably because of name recognition, but their significant drop in production is undeniable. Sure there are some power backs that faded slower as they adapted to their limited physical tools, and then you have inhuman players like Emmitt, Gore, and AP that simply beat Father Time, time and again, but for the most part is there's always a wall.

I don’t want to keep going around and around.

I could sit here and list out just as many RB’s who did not fall off a cliff, or did not have take a straight line decline. Then that likely spawns off into a difference of opinion on those players rate of decline and I’m not looking to get sucked into that worm hole.

Plus Mostert is extremely unique to be his age with that light of a career workload.

I’m just going to leave at not having conclusive data to agree with your assertion that Mostert fell off the cliff.

That seems all too typical around here. Say a poster is wrong, but then just check out of the conversation instead of providing data or facts to support your assertion.

I always just assumed running backs hitting a wall/falling off a cliff was a readily accepted occurrence. You’re the first that’s really challenged it, so if that assumption is wrong I would love to know why.

Let me frame it another way, once a running back’s production starts to decline due to age or usage, the fall is typically pronounced and not reversed. There are very few running backs I can think of that have come back from what looked like the end. AP might be the only one. Maybe Bettis or Allen because of their transformations?

My list is not cherry picked other than I pulled up the top 25 rushers of all time, and then pulled out the speed dependent guys on that list.

While I agree that analysis may not be statistically valid, it does support the assumption I’ve heard many times and I haven’t really seen anything to suggest it could be wrong.

I’m not trying to start an argument, I’m trying to learn.

 

[menobrown]

That seems all too typical around here. Say a poster is wrong, but then just check out of the conversation instead of providing data or facts to support your assertion.

I would encourage you to differentiate the difference between someone telling you they don’t agree with your conclusion versus telling you that you are wrong.

If you want to talk about things that are typical around here that I don’t care for it’s when people try and beat an argument or disagreement to death. I get pulled into it sometimes myself and rarely find it pleasurable or see opinions changed. It’s ok to agree to disagree and move on with our respective opinions. It should not be considered rude or someone blowing you off.

 

[Big Nate]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

He actually did look good in weeks 4, 5 and 7 with the touches he got. 13 for 86 vs NE.

Not sure why you are so set on Wright being no good. Give him time, he is a rookie. If you are so set on your takes and don't leave room to adjust or shift you will miss out.

You also have to remember MIA gave up an extra third round pick to take him in the 4th. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. Redraft sure, he's not a thing but in dynasty give him time.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

He actually did look good in weeks 4, 5 and 7 with the touches he got. 13 for 86 vs NE.

Not sure why you are so set on Wright being no good. Give him time, he is a rookie. If you are so set on your takes and don't leave room to adjust or shift you will miss out.

You also have to remember MIA gave up an extra third round pick to take him in the 4th. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. Redraft sure, he's not a thing but in dynasty give him time.

Because I’ve watched him play. Pass protection can be learned/improved, but rushing the ball is a skill that usually doesn’t change much. You either have it, or you don’t, and it’s pretty easy early on to see whether or not a player has it. It’s a plug and play position in college all through the NFL.

Now, if he has some sort of injury he’s been playing with we haven’t been told about, then I reserve further judgement….but, when he’s touched the ball, he looks explosive so I doubt am underlying injury is the cause here. He just looks like a guy that’s easy to tackle and has zero vision. That’s concerning.

New England’s run D is bad, really bad so I view that game as an anomaly. Wright had a few nice runs but that can happen with huge holes when a guy has elite speed. I’m more concerned with what I see in the rest of the situations.

Can he improve? Yes, of course, anything is posdible. What worries me is he hasn’t. He hasn’t shown growth in his first year as a pro, even with opportunities on the field, and most cases at this position that’s the kiss of death.

FWIW, I didn’t drop him from my team, but at this point I view him as a roster clogger. I really wish I’d have traded him after the NE game, I got offers. I can’t get any value for him now in a trade and I don’t see him becoming anything at RB either.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sometimes it just takes the rookies time to get up to speed. I said this before and will say it again, the vets already are established, trusted and can execute the offense as asked. Rookies take time. No guarantee he becomes a good starting RB but we can't write him off just yet (in dynasty).

For those who expected something in redraft not sure what to say as Achane and Mostert (and Wilson) were already established. Wright was always a longer play. I'd be willing to buy low during a rookie draft or the offseason and see if I can't get some cheap shares.

I'm still on the Achane train though.

I agree to an extent, but running back tends to be the exception to the rookie rule. It's the easiest position to step in and play out of college, off the PS, off the street or traded from another team. Wright got a chance and didn't even really excel at running or catching. Pass protection takes a bit to get up to speed, sure, but the rest of his play is what worried me.

The position still has a few superstars, but there's a reason they are paid so low compared to other positions. The only positions paid less in the NFL, on average, are the long snapper, punter and fullback. This also makes it very easy to give up on guys relatively quickly.

The superstars drafted in the first round or early second, yes - they often get a chance to perform right out the gates. Many 3rd rounders+ can take time, if they ever do break out.

Many the expectations are too great and/or they have to wait their turn for an opportunity. Charbs has been doing great when Walker is out. But it is still Walkers job.

Some RBs drafted 3rd round or later that took a year or three:

Bigsby
Chase Brown
Charbs
Kyren Williams
Pachecco (never got more than 50% snap share rookie year)
Stevenson - wasn't handed the starting job until year 2
Hubbard

Sometimes they guys just need a year under their belt to learn the playbook and get comfortable to the NFL speed. No problems with that. You mention WRight didn't excel but neither did Bigsby and i would argue Bigs has looked much worse. I watched some of Wrights earlier carries and he looked like he had some burst and speed.

Who knows if he will be good or not but it is too early to write him off fully. And rightfully so his value/worth should drop in fantasy until he shows if he can be good and consistent.

But my point is, every one of those guys (with the exception of Bigsby who was mentioned earlier) looked the part as soon as they were given their first touches. They passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities right from the jump. Some weren't given the reigns right away because of who they were playing next to or behind, but they passed the eye test and did something with their opportunities, regardless of how large or how small.

Wright has not done that. That's what worries me. He has not looked special on the NFL field. If there's a huge hole, he hits it and his explosiveness shows but... He looks like a RB that lacks vision, can't pass protect, and runs too upright to be the power back the Dolphins need. Mostert was an anomaly in the NFL. An upright running with elite speed and explosiveness. I think because Mostert/Wright had similar running styles and elite athletic traits. Miami was hoping he could be a plug and play to replace Mostert. I just don't see that happening at this point. Maybe I end up wrong, but more times than not waiting around for a 4th round RB to "get it" is a fool's errand.

He actually did look good in weeks 4, 5 and 7 with the touches he got. 13 for 86 vs NE.

Not sure why you are so set on Wright being no good. Give him time, he is a rookie. If you are so set on your takes and don't leave room to adjust or shift you will miss out.

You also have to remember MIA gave up an extra third round pick to take him in the 4th. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. Redraft sure, he's not a thing but in dynasty give him time.

Because I’ve watched him play. Pass protection can be learned/improved, but rushing the ball is a skill that usually doesn’t change much. You either have it, or you don’t, and it’s pretty easy early on to see whether or not a player has it. It’s a plug and play position in college all through the NFL.

Now, if he has some sort of injury he’s been playing with we haven’t been told about, then I reserve further judgement….but, when he’s touched the ball, he looks explosive so I doubt am underlying injury is the cause here. He just looks like a guy that’s easy to tackle and has zero vision. That’s concerning.

New England’s run D is bad, really bad so I view that game as an anomaly. Wright had a few nice runs but that can happen with huge holes when a guy has elite speed. I’m more concerned with what I see in the rest of the situations.

Can he improve? Yes, of course, anything is posdible. What worries me is he hasn’t. He hasn’t shown growth in his first year as a pro, even with opportunities on the field, and most cases at this position that’s the kiss of death.

FWIW, I didn’t drop him from my team, but at this point I view him as a roster clogger. I really wish I’d have traded him after the NE game, I got offers. I can’t get any value for him now in a trade and I don’t see him becoming anything at RB either.

Sounds like premature Wrightulation to me.