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RB Joe Mixon, HOU (2 Viewers)
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Snorkelson
Footballguy
I wonder how the professional media guys who stated he'd go undrafted will feel if he goes at the end of rd 1? There were an awful lot of them banging that drum a few months ago.
They will shamelessly migrate to the next outrage without missing a beat.
It's what they do.
I think it's wise to sit where they are and if he falls, great, if not, look elsewhere. They really don't need him because they have a gaping hole at QB. Until that get addressed, the last position to address is RB because of it's short shelf life. Now Mixon does have the build of a guy that can play 10 years. So it's not out of the question but it seems like a bad move when he won't help you win games (because you have no QB)
For instance unless the NYJ think that they are going to suck so bad even with Fournette in 2017 AND be in position to draft Sam Darnold, they are simply wasting Fournette's career. By the time they find a QB, Fournette will be used up.
matttyl
Footballguy
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Would love him in GB. They have been stuck with scrub RB's for far too long. A versatile stud RB to take some heat off Rodgers would be huge.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
no thx
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
JetMaxx said:
And immediately after he's picked the local news stations will all be running the clip of him punching that girl - which GB folk don't cotton to much. Don't see any way that GB and Mixon get connected.
steelers1080
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
From the outside looking in we may not think these teams have QBs, but I'm sure they're more optimistic (whether its warranted or not).
I can see the logic of taking what falls to you during a draft, especially given the cost of moving up. You don't want to constantly reach for a guy. But, if I think that player is a difference maker, I like the aggressive move to get him, be it the NFL or fantasy.
In the specific case of the Browns and their current roster, I agree they have bigger needs and serviceable backs in house.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I've seen a lot of talk about Brooks having him to GB. Is that just because it's enticing for fantasy, or because Brooks is particularly well regarded as a draftnik? Because I'd never heard of him before this, but now everyone is talking about it like he's everyone's favorite mock drafter.
He's not my one of my favs. He actually has some real head scratchers but he's at least reasonable as far as Mixon. Anyone completely nixing Mixon from their board is a moron or they already have their RB. Like someone on NFL network said, if you are drafting him in the 7th RD, it's not like you will avoid publicity. The round only makes a difference in the $ you shell out for a guy who, if he screws up again, you probably have to cut. He's a risky pick but to not even have him on your board is just flat out stupid.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Meh. He'll be splitting time with Starks by the third week. That's how McCarthy rolls.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Casserly is media driven. He wants to have people like him and by taking a "stand" he can appeal to those outraged over Mixon and still come across well even when he knows he'll be wrong.
think about it, once Mixon is drafted in the top 2 rounds he can rant about how wrong it was for a team to draft him. A bunch of people will jump on that bandwagon and agree with him.
It's a disservice to the community what he is doing, but it gives him a platform to take a stand and look like a good guy.
It's obv totally fake and contrived, but it will work and help him from a media perspective.
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Riffraff
Footballguy
Drafted by the Buffalo Bills in the second round of the 1994 NFL Draft, Bucky Brooks played for five different teams (Buffalo, Jacksonville, Green Bay, Kansas City and Oakland) in five NFL seasons.
After his playing career was over in 1999, Brooks joined the Seattle Seahawks' pro personnel department as a regional college scout. He served in the same capacity for the Carolina Panthers from 2003 to 2007, before joining CNNSI.com as a football analyst.
He joined NFL Media in 2009.
http://www.nflcdn.com/news/author?id=09000d5d80f97bfd
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To be fair, he probably hasn't heard of you or me either...
BoltBacker
Footballguy
IMO Brooks likes to entice people to click on his mocks. I think a few years ago when Bortles/Bridgewater/Manziel/Carr were all coming out I can still remember a headline that Brooks had NO QB in his first round mock(!) in April. Personally, I think he's guilty of click-baiting in April and while I get a lot out of listening to Daniel Jeremiah I almost never feel like I get anything from listening to Bucky Brooks. I would put absolutely no weight in Brooks going out on a limb on predicting Mixon in the first round. Once the first pick is made during the draft nobody remembers just how wrong these guys are so they may as well be as wildly inaccurate as they want if it drives audience before the draft.
I am bullish on Mixon though. Much more bullish on the talent Mixon has than the accuracy of anything Brooks says.
jabarony
Footballguy
Yup. Mixon (or any decent RB) could get them down to the 3 yard line, then Rodgers will call 3 pass plays.
Spike
Footballguy
Maybe not, but it would almost certainly raise his floor...which he would likely meet with regularity.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Thunderlips
Footballguy
An unproven college kid not yet on a team vs arguably the greatest QB in NFL history. Totally relevant question.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Starks is just the name given to all the crap RB handcuffs that GB employs to suck the greatness out of RBs. Kuhn was Lacy's Starks. Ty will be the next RB's Starks. And so on.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
steelers1080
Footballguy
Borden
Footballguy
Too bad one of those Starks wasn't that billionaire Tony. Eddie probably wouldn't fit in a suit though.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He could have fit in the Hulk Buster suit.Too bad one of those Starks wasn't that billionaire Tony. Eddie probably wouldn't fit in a suit though.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Might have been better suited for the Iron Monger suitHe could have fit in the Hulk Buster suit.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Lot of interesting things in that list. John Ross is in the top 10, Samuel in the top 50, etc.
I was listening to a week old MTS podcast yesterday where Charles Davis was discussing possibility of Mixon shocking people going in round one and Jeremiah had commented that he felt Tampa was the team to watch but added that he would not be surprised if Mixon went in round one or round 5.
So basically who knows?
Sometimes you hear positive reports that suggest it was a one time incidence and stuff like everyone at OU loves and vouches for him. Then sometimes you hear stuff like Casserly a week or so ago saying something along the lines of it may not be such an isolated incident or there are other character concerns, can't recall exactly but point was he was saying he's hearing there are additional off the field concerns above and beyond the "punch".
Since we don't know this kind of information, we don't know which teams have removed him from their board or lowered him on their board, he's about as big a wild card as I can recall in years but I would be like 10x more shocked if he went undrafted then if he went in round one.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Yeah if there are other things then that is a whole new ball game. A lot of question marks and information that we just don't know.
I think round 1 is likely based off of one reason: a 5th year option. If he does as well as people feel he could, going round 1 would give his team a 5th year option at an affordable price. Rather than taking him round 2-UDFA where you're stuck paying him his "get rich" contract earlier. Of course, if there are other character concerns this theory goes out the window.
buck naked
Footballguy
Maybe none of his teammates went to his birthday party (RED FLAG!).menobrown said:
Borden
Footballguy
Man, who knows. That in itself is a complete nothing but with the video... could be a smoking gun. This kid is going to have to live the life of a hermit going forward.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I don't know... color me skeptical.
It's real easy to come out after the fact and start making claims, especially when a kid is a 5 star athlete and very well might be making some good money some day.
As the father of two daughters, if some punk threw one of them to the ground and hit them, I'm taking pictures of the injuries and filing a complaint for a police report immediately, which is public record. I'd be raising hell about it until something happened. Since there hasn't been any word of evidence of a police report, I'm calling BS on this story.
The school may want to protect Mixon. But the police? They have no skin in the game. If there's a complaint filed with evidence of trauma then that's hard to ignore.
A push and a hit could be what we could say Ms. Molitor did to Joe too.
Yes, with a video showing him hitting a woman and then an alleged complaint that he had done it previously makes it hard to ignore, but the facts just don't seem to add up. This would be public record and we would have heard about it 100 times if this actually happened. There'd likely be picture evidence.
I agree with Borden though, this guy has 2 strikes...
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Mavis
Footballguy
The police were called and the school was involved, these are not just accusations. Mixon can sue this guy for slander if it is not true, then the police report and stuff will come to light. Mixon will not want that. You better believe if a guy is going public right now to slander someone, its probably true.
I am drooling over Mixons talent and want him badly on my teams, but if he keeps hitting women I will want him in jail. Risk I am worth taking on my fantasy team but not one in real life.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
and what would be the father's incentive to come out now? @Dr. Dan implies it's a money grab, but that doesn't make any sense since he went public with the story before the NFL draft so why would Mixon pay him off now?
It's also well past the statue of limitations for any civil action at this point (I'm basing that off of NY's 3 year statue of limitations for a personal injury suit, so perhaps this jurisdiction's is longer but it's doubtful that it hasn't run by now).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I like Mixon as a prospect so I hope this is not true, but it's certainly bad timing and could hurt his draft stock.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Yeah I agree with this. If this is true, which it may be or may not be. Again, I think it's easy to jump to conclusions and believe the first thing your hear. There are two sides to every story and we shouldn't rush to conclusions. I am skeptical, but if it's true then he's another loser that his actions will/could eventually lead to a squandered athletic opportunity.
