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RB Jonathan Taylor, IND (1 Viewer)

They have until 4pm Saturday to officially activate him. The part thats confusing to me is the pup designation is clear you can't practice while on it. Nothing easy with this journey.
 
FarFromHome said:
They have until 4pm Saturday to officially activate him. The part thats confusing to me is the pup designation is clear you can't practice while on it. Nothing easy with this journey.
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They have 21 days to activate him:

"Once the player begins practicing, a team gets a three-week window to decide whether to activate him or leave him on PUP for the remainder of the season."
 
Big Nate said:
FarFromHome said:
They have until 4pm Saturday to officially activate him. The part thats confusing to me is the pup designation is clear you can't practice while on it. Nothing easy with this journey.
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They have 21 days to activate him:

"Once the player begins practicing, a team gets a three-week window to decide whether to activate him or leave him on PUP for the remainder of the season."
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I meant I thought they have till Saturday at 4 to activate him to play this Sunday.
 
FarFromHome said:
I meant I thought they have till Saturday at 4 to activate him to play this Sunday.
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Does seem that we'll know Saturday for sure whether he's active.


Tom Pelissero

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The #Colts are listing RB Jonathan Taylor (ankle) as questionable for Sunday vs. the Titans. They'll see how his body feels after two full practices before making a final call Saturday on whether to activate him.

1:04 PM · Oct 6, 2023
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the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.

How many touches he’ll get depends on how he looks. They don’t give a shot about him…they aren’t gonna have him in a pitch count. They’re gonna use him…and why wouldn’t you?
 
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.
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Agreed. What will you know tomorrow that you don't know today?
 
Dizzy said:
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.
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Agreed. What will you know tomorrow that you don't know today?
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Colts beat writer said they just want to see how Taylor tells them his body feels after his first two full days of practice.

If that's the case it sounds more like the decision for him to be active or not is really up to him in the sense of how he tells them he's feeling.
 
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.

How many touches he’ll get depends on how he looks. They don’t give a shot about him…they aren’t gonna have him in a pitch count. They’re gonna use him…and why wouldn’t you?
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How is waiting to see how his body feels after his 2nd practice in over 9 months playing games?
 
humpback said:
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.

How many touches he’ll get depends on how he looks. They don’t give a shot about him…they aren’t gonna have him in a pitch count. They’re gonna use him…and why wouldn’t you?
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How is waiting to see how his body feels after his 2nd practice in over 9 months playing games?
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It’s not like he’s been sitting on a beach…he doesn’t have a real injury. He did 2 practices….the guy is a pro..he’s not staying out because he’s a bit sore after 2 practices.
 
Banger said:
humpback said:
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.

How many touches he’ll get depends on how he looks. They don’t give a shot about him…they aren’t gonna have him in a pitch count. They’re gonna use him…and why wouldn’t you?
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How is waiting to see how his body feels after his 2nd practice in over 9 months playing games?
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It’s not like he’s been sitting on a beach…he doesn’t have a real injury. He did 2 practices….the guy is a pro..he’s not staying out because he’s a bit sore after 2 practices.
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We have no idea what kind of shape he's in, and there's a huge difference between being in regular shape vs. being in football shape.

So the Colts are just playing silly games, that's what you're sticking with?
 
humpback said:
Banger said:
humpback said:
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.

How many touches he’ll get depends on how he looks. They don’t give a shot about him…they aren’t gonna have him in a pitch count. They’re gonna use him…and why wouldn’t you?
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How is waiting to see how his body feels after his 2nd practice in over 9 months playing games?
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It’s not like he’s been sitting on a beach…he doesn’t have a real injury. He did 2 practices….the guy is a pro..he’s not staying out because he’s a bit sore after 2 practices.
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We have no idea what kind of shape he's in, and there's a huge difference between being in regular shape vs. being in football shape.

So the Colts are just playing silly games, that's what you're sticking with?
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I'm not picking sides but I get what humps is saying and we're not there at practice.
It's possible he's not in game shape. I know last year is not a good marker but he wasn't having a good season

-Pump the brakes is all I think some folks are saying here, it's not disbelief or hate, it's just using a little common sense and not get carried away
Things can change but not everything has to be TMZ

-My take is Indy is still looking at their offers and trying to figure out a way to leverage the most possible for him. Waddle wasn't a good start, neither was Watson apparently so they know the market is rather soft and they will be lucky to get whatever they were offered, we've heard rumors of a 4th which seems awfully low, I would expect at least a 2nd and a conditional pick on top to make things work at this point, what teams would do that? Miami seems like the ship has sailed with Achane at this point.

But there are teams that would like to have him, there has to be at least 2-3 that want ot move in and scoop him up. I can see a strong Playoff team pushing a chip all in on him.
But you look at SF-PHI-DAL, they're full. KC-BUF both seem to have their starting RB problem solved or close, so now we look to lesser teams, would Tampa Bay like a nice Cha-Ching at RB to help Baker and maybe make a real push to the Playoffs? Just questions
 
Ministry of Pain said:
humpback said:
Banger said:
humpback said:
Banger said:
the games are so silly. Why wouldn’t they activate him? Get him out there…you won…didn’t need to pay him or trade him. Now let him help you win games.

How many touches he’ll get depends on how he looks. They don’t give a shot about him…they aren’t gonna have him in a pitch count. They’re gonna use him…and why wouldn’t you?
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How is waiting to see how his body feels after his 2nd practice in over 9 months playing games?
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It’s not like he’s been sitting on a beach…he doesn’t have a real injury. He did 2 practices….the guy is a pro..he’s not staying out because he’s a bit sore after 2 practices.
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We have no idea what kind of shape he's in, and there's a huge difference between being in regular shape vs. being in football shape.

So the Colts are just playing silly games, that's what you're sticking with?
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I'm not picking sides but I get what humps is saying and we're not there at practice.
It's possible he's not in game shape. I know last year is not a good marker but he wasn't having a good season

-Pump the brakes is all I think some folks are saying here, it's not disbelief or hate, it's just using a little common sense and not get carried away
Things can change but not everything has to be TMZ

-My take is Indy is still looking at their offers and trying to figure out a way to leverage the most possible for him. Waddle wasn't a good start, neither was Watson apparently so they know the market is rather soft and they will be lucky to get whatever they were offered, we've heard rumors of a 4th which seems awfully low, I would expect at least a 2nd and a conditional pick on top to make things work at this point, what teams would do that? Miami seems like the ship has sailed with Achane at this point.

But there are teams that would like to have him, there has to be at least 2-3 that want ot move in and scoop him up. I can see a strong Playoff team pushing a chip all in on him.
But you look at SF-PHI-DAL, they're full. KC-BUF both seem to have their starting RB problem solved or close, so now we look to lesser teams, would Tampa Bay like a nice Cha-Ching at RB to help Baker and maybe make a real push to the Playoffs? Just questions
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Clubhouse leader to me if it isnt “stay in Indy” is the rams.
 
None of us are employees of the Colts so we really don't know. My take on just looking at the circumstances is he stays. I don't think they have any intentiion of moving him and really never did. The #1 priority of that team, outside obviously winning games, is creating an environment for its rookie franchise QB to be successful. You create chaos for that rookie QB and it goes the path of Joey Harrington. Moving Taylor doesn't help cultivate that good environment. Keeping a play maker as dynamic as Taylor does cultivate it. Imo
 
taylormeetstheismann said:
Ministry of Pain said:
My take is Indy is still looking at their offers and trying to figure out a way to leverage the most possible for him.
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Do they have active offers?
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Multiple beat and national writers have said the market is dead right now, teams are interested but no active or serious trade talks.

None of them believe Taylor has rescinded his request to be traded and I do believe the Colts would like to move him and it won't take a lot more then a second, depends whose pick they get. So in that sense I don't think anything has changed and both sides would like to see a trade.

I think there are a few hangups to getting a decent offer right now that could change but right now is not a good time.

One is just teams wanting to see him play and be back to his old self.

Secondary issue me the entire trade landscape with RB's , above and beyond Taylor.

No team is just desperate right now. That's part of the landscaper I'm talking about. Now I think some teams, like the Ravens, should be but they are not acting like it that could be strategic for the next reason.

We have a situation were we have a massive amount of old to older RB's on the last year of their actual or effective contract that play for teams that don't look to be in the contention. Off the top of my head we got Barkley, Connor, Jacobs and Henry just to name a few. Taylor has youth on them but I'm not sure how big of a deal that is relative to his contract status. So what I'm getting it is if you are team that think you can afford to wait on a RB and not get desperate, amd again right now most teams seem to be in that mode, a little patience might let you enter an extrmely friendly RB buyers market in a few weeks.
 
Things heat up at the deadline like draft picks near the nfl draft. His value will be highest at the deadline if he’s healthy and more injuries occur. I’m sure their data and quant team have ideal scenarios
 
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
 
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
 
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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Yep.
 
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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They are very secretive with that formula also.
 
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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I posted earlier that a player signing for $11M these days would earn a 4th round comp pick (if the Colts didn’t sign a similar free agent). Who knows if a team would even give Taylor that much. With contracts at other positions on the rise, Taylor could conceivably be on the 4/5 round cut line.
 
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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I think the comp pick they would get for Taylor (or anyone) is also offset by the free agent signings they make. Depending on the other moves they make, they could end up with no comp pick for him.
 
RC94 said:
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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I think the comp pick they would get for Taylor (or anyone) is also offset by the free agent signings they make. Depending on the other moves they make, they could end up with no comp pick for him.
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......yet the formula is still a secret ;)
 
JohnnyU said:
RC94 said:
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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I think the comp pick they would get for Taylor (or anyone) is also offset by the free agent signings they make. Depending on the other moves they make, they could end up with no comp pick for him.
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......yet the formula is still a secret ;)
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It’s really not. Every year as soon players move there are internet people that already know what all the comp picks will be.
 
Da Franchise said:
JohnnyU said:
RC94 said:
Snoopy said:
wickster33 said:
I not positive that I understand the compensatory pick rules, but it seems to me that the Colts could simply let him play, make a market level offer for him in the off season, and then gather a 3rd round comp pick for him when he signs elsewhere. If that’s the case, why would they ever take less than a second for him?

if you have a better understanding of the comp pick rules, I won’t be embarrassed to be wrong.
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Mostly correct, but the comp pick formula is complicated that the compensation could be less than a 3rd, considering that running backs are not getting paid much anymore.
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I think the comp pick they would get for Taylor (or anyone) is also offset by the free agent signings they make. Depending on the other moves they make, they could end up with no comp pick for him.
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......yet the formula is still a secret ;)
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It’s really not. Every year as soon players move there are internet people that already know what all the comp picks will be.
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Then why do they refuse to share it?
 
Sources to ESPN: Jonathan Taylor and the Colts reached agreement on a three-year, $42 million contract extension, including $26.5M guaranteed, that makes him one of the league’s highest-paid RBs and clears him to make his season debut Sunday vs. Titans.
 
Dez said:
All those who drafted in late drafts and got Taylor in the 6th - 9th rounds this is a game changer I got some shares but clearly not enough
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Maybe. Still remains to be seen how productive he is & how many TDs ARich vultures.

But it’s definitely a “best case scenario” for a dude they drafted who’s floor was “miss the year”.
 
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