RB Jonathan Taylor, IND (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Taylor is in an interesting spot for me. I think he's clearly above your Jacobs/Barkley types and could easily be right there with guys like Hall or Bijan, and yet I can't rank him any higher than 4th. I do still think the 2021 version of him is still in there, but like Barkley (though not as big an issue for Tayor I think) the QB taking TDs could be an issue.

Taylor is my pick to win the rushing title and lead the NFL in carries with Moss gone. If he stays healthy, its gonna be hard for him not to blow past 300 touches.

Precisely the reason you trade him now if you're not a contending team. I'm a Colts fan and have one share in a team that I question whether I'll be contending, so this is on my mind.

 

[Ray_T]

Taylor is in an interesting spot for me. I think he's clearly above your Jacobs/Barkley types and could easily be right there with guys like Hall or Bijan, and yet I can't rank him any higher than 4th. I do still think the 2021 version of him is still in there, but like Barkley (though not as big an issue for Tayor I think) the QB taking TDs could be an issue.

Taylor is my pick to win the rushing title and lead the NFL in carries with Moss gone. If he stays healthy, its gonna be hard for him not to blow past 300 touches.

Precisely the reason you trade him now if you're not a contending team. I'm a Colts fan and have one share in a team that I question whether I'll be contending, so this is on my mind.

I fully agree. if you are not contending, you get a kings ransom of either draft picks or young players for the rebuild

 

[JohnnyU]

Taylor is in an interesting spot for me. I think he's clearly above your Jacobs/Barkley types and could easily be right there with guys like Hall or Bijan, and yet I can't rank him any higher than 4th. I do still think the 2021 version of him is still in there, but like Barkley (though not as big an issue for Tayor I think) the QB taking TDs could be an issue.

Taylor is my pick to win the rushing title and lead the NFL in carries with Moss gone. If he stays healthy, its gonna be hard for him not to blow past 300 touches.

Precisely the reason you trade him now if you're not a contending team. I'm a Colts fan and have one share in a team that I question whether I'll be contending, so this is on my mind.

I fully agree. if you are not contending, you get a kings ransom of either draft picks or young players for the rebuild

Kings ransom may be stretching it, but yes, one should get good value for Taylor right now. If he gets hurt, even if it isn't season ending, all of that goes out the window and there you are, a non-contending team with Jonathan Taylor.

 

[Ray_T]

Taylor is in an interesting spot for me. I think he's clearly above your Jacobs/Barkley types and could easily be right there with guys like Hall or Bijan, and yet I can't rank him any higher than 4th. I do still think the 2021 version of him is still in there, but like Barkley (though not as big an issue for Tayor I think) the QB taking TDs could be an issue.

Taylor is my pick to win the rushing title and lead the NFL in carries with Moss gone. If he stays healthy, its gonna be hard for him not to blow past 300 touches.

Precisely the reason you trade him now if you're not a contending team. I'm a Colts fan and have one share in a team that I question whether I'll be contending, so this is on my mind.

I fully agree. if you are not contending, you get a kings ransom of either draft picks or young players for the rebuild

Kings ransom may be stretching it, but yes, one should get good value for Taylor right now. If he gets hurt, even if it isn't season ending, all of that goes out the window and there you are, a non-contending team with Jonathan Taylor.

I have found that usually a contending team in need of help at RB will pay top dollar for a premium player like him.

but its a know your league thing. I know people in my keeper league still pay a premium for a set it and forget it RB.

 

[Payne]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

 

[Gally]

Yet very little about Taylor.

He isn't a shiny new toy and after two years of underperforming expectations he is the boring option at the top of the draft. Everyone wants to be clever and get the best new thing.

 

[Payne]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

 

[Gally]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

All true.......but he is a boring choice at the top of the draft. There are always guys like that and they drop farther than they should.

 

[TheWinz]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

If you look closer, you will see he only played 10 snaps in his first game back. I think that game can be dismissed, but you can't dismiss his 2nd game, because he played 33 snaps. If you want to dismiss his 2nd game as well, then you have to dismiss his other 2 games where he had 35 snaps each. Either way, I also think he is in for a big year.

 

[cheese]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

Good points. I think the yards will be there. Only 1 RB had 15 rushing tds last year, but 2 QBs did. That outlines the main concern here. I won’t be surprised if Richardson has more rushing tds in 2024 than Taylor.

 

[TheWinz]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

Good points. I think the yards will be there. Only 1 RB had 15 rushing tds last year, but 2 QBs did. That outlines the main concern here. I won’t be surprised if Richardson has more rushing tds in 2024 than Taylor.

Fun fact - Since Hurts became the full-time starter in 2021, he has 38 rushing TD's. Not only does he lead all RB's, but only 5 are even within 10 TD's of him:
Henry - 35
Ekeler - 30
Conner, Mixon, Taylor - 29

 

[msudaisy26]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

Yeah, but if he (JT) stays healthy, he can roll.

 

[msudaisy26]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

Yeah, but if he (JT) stays healthy, he can roll.

Absolutely, but I believe his value is pretty much dead on for the risk vs reward.

 

[TheWinz]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

Yeah, but if he (JT) stays healthy, he can roll.

Agreed. JT has played in 52 career games and has 938.4 PPR fantasy points, putting his game average at 18.0, or 306.8 for a full season.

 

[Payne]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

Good points. I think the yards will be there. Only 1 RB had 15 rushing tds last year, but 2 QBs did. That outlines the main concern here. I won’t be surprised if Richardson has more rushing tds in 2024 than Taylor.

Very possible. But we also saw Richardson take a beating and I think both he and the Colts would prefer that not happen again.

 

[Payne]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

If you look closer, you will see he only played 10 snaps in his first game back. I think that game can be dismissed, but you can't dismiss his 2nd game, because he played 33 snaps. If you want to dismiss his 2nd game as well, then you have to dismiss his other 2 games where he had 35 snaps each. Either way, I also think he is in for a big year.

Fair point

 

[Payne]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

 

[msudaisy26]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

This might be a better comment for the Barkley thread, but two developments have occurred since 2022 when the tush-push came to prominence.

1) Jalen Hurts is now highly paid and coming off a perceived down year.
2) Jason Kelce retired.

I remember the Eagles having a run play out of that formation...and I could see the Eagles balancing out their playcalling here.

As for Taylor...Richardson should get his share of rushing scores, but Taylor should eat inside the 5. Don't forget, CMC also missed the better of two seasons and it seems laughable now that he was downgraded for it.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

This might be a better comment for the Barkley thread, but two developments have occurred since 2022 when the tush-push came to prominence.

1) Jalen Hurts is now highly paid and coming off a perceived down year.
2) Jason Kelce retired.

I remember the Eagles having a run play out of that formation...and I could see the Eagles balancing out their playcalling here.

As for Taylor...Richardson should get his share of rushing scores, but Taylor should eat inside the 5. Don't forget, CMC also missed the better of two seasons and it seems laughable now that he was downgraded for it.

People have the memory of a knat.

 

[Gally]

People have the memory of a knat.

I think you mean goldfish - Ted Lasso

 

[JohnnyU]

People have the memory of a knat.

I think you mean goldfish - Ted Lasso

No, I meant what I typed. My wife is the Ted Lasso fan.

 

[eighsse2]

CMC also missed the better of two seasons and it seems seemed laughable now always that he was downgraded for it

Fixed your post!

 

[Gally]

People have the memory of a knat.

I think you mean goldfish - Ted Lasso

No, I meant what I typed. My wife is the Ted Lasso fan.

Too bad for you then

 

[JohnnyU]

People have the memory of a knat.

I think you mean goldfish - Ted Lasso

No, I meant what I typed. My wife is the Ted Lasso fan.

Too bad for you then

I don’t see it that way, but I get it was a popular show.

 

[Payne]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

To be clear, I have Taylor and Barkley basically equal this year, but I think Taylor has more upside due to lack of talent behind him.
Gainwell is a far better RB than anyone behind Taylor.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

To be clear, I have Taylor and Barkley basically equal this year, but I think Taylor has more upside due to lack of talent behind him.
Gainwell is a far better RB than anyone behind Taylor.

Gainwell shouldn’t scare anyone in fantasy. He’s waiver wire fodder imo.

 

[Payne]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

To be clear, I have Taylor and Barkley basically equal this year, but I think Taylor has more upside due to lack of talent behind him.
Gainwell is a far better RB than anyone behind Taylor.

Gainwell shouldn’t scare anyone in fantasy. He’s waiver wire fodder imo

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

To be clear, I have Taylor and Barkley basically equal this year, but I think Taylor has more upside due to lack of talent behind him.
Gainwell is a far better RB than anyone behind Taylor.

Gainwell shouldn’t scare anyone in fantasy. He’s waiver wire fodder imo.

That's isn't what I said though. Gainwell has been given opportunities with this coaching staff.
No reason to think he won't get some carries behind Barkley.

Taylor is going to get almost all the touches in Indy. Agree?

 

[JohnnyU]

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

To be clear, I have Taylor and Barkley basically equal this year, but I think Taylor has more upside due to lack of talent behind him.
Gainwell is a far better RB than anyone behind Taylor.

Gainwell shouldn’t scare anyone in fantasy. He’s waiver wire fodder imo

I am all in as well. People apparently forgot how good he is. He is great.
This offense will be better. leading to far more production.

All the talk is about CMC (and rightfully so), Bijan (who has yet to prove it), Hall, Barkley and even Kyren.
Yet very little about Taylor.

He has missed significant time the last two years. The 3 guys that go consistently ahead should for good reason. CMC easy, Hall has been awesome in a terrible offense, Bijan is probably the best rb prospect in a long time with a better coach and qb.

Gibbs and Barkely are in better offenses, and no one is talking about Kyren in a good way. He is falling down draft boards a lot right now.

As a fellow Detroiter, I'm not as sold on Gibbs as many others. Montgomery isn't going anywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I love him, but I prefer Taylor since he will get more volume.

Barkley may be in a better offense, but he also has some talented backs behind him and a QB who scores a lot of TD's.

I agree on Gibbs, but disagree on Barkely. You can knock him for a qb that scores a lot of touchdowns, when that is what Richardson is going to do as well. I wouldn't buy into either back getting pulled off the field by anyone behind them.

To be clear, I have Taylor and Barkley basically equal this year, but I think Taylor has more upside due to lack of talent behind him.
Gainwell is a far better RB than anyone behind Taylor.

Gainwell shouldn’t scare anyone in fantasy. He’s waiver wire fodder imo.

That's isn't what I said though. Gainwell has been given opportunities with this coaching staff.
No reason to think he won't get some carries behind Barkley.

Taylor is going to get almost all the touches in Indy. Agree?

I think both Taylor and Barkley are going to get the most carries of any RBs in the league. Gainwell isn't very good, even if he does get more carries than Sermon, so I don't care one way or the other. It's not like I would ever play Gainwell or Sermon. As far as backup RBs in case of injury, I would rather have Sermon over Gainwell. It doesn't matter if Barkely gets hurt or not, because if that happened the Eagles will never give Gainwell a full workload. It's not who he is and we know this by now. If JT went down I can't say that about Indy's backup RBs.

 

[Big Nate]

Taylor is in an interesting spot for me. I think he's clearly above your Jacobs/Barkley types and could easily be right there with guys like Hall or Bijan, and yet I can't rank him any higher than 4th. I do still think the 2021 version of him is still in there, but like Barkley (though not as big an issue for Tayor I think) the QB taking TDs could be an issue.

Taylor is my pick to win the rushing title and lead the NFL in carries with Moss gone. If he stays healthy, its gonna be hard for him not to blow past 300 touches.

Precisely the reason you trade him now if you're not a contending team. I'm a Colts fan and have one share in a team that I question whether I'll be contending, so this is on my mind.

I fully agree. if you are not contending, you get a kings ransom of either draft picks or young players for the rebuild

Kings ransom may be stretching it, but yes, one should get good value for Taylor right now. If he gets hurt, even if it isn't season ending, all of that goes out the window and there you are, a non-contending team with Jonathan Taylor.

This is true and a good strategy for any decent RB - if you aren't contending sell! You can probably get the most value closer to the season or even during the first week or 2 as contending teams realize they are short good RBs.

But each week you wait you risk that there is an injury. Test the market and see what value you can get - but just don't trade because!

Having said that I'm really liking the potential workload of Taylor this year and looking for him to help me repeat.

 

[Big Nate]

Yet very little about Taylor.

He isn't a shiny new toy and after two years of underperforming expectations he is the boring option at the top of the draft. Everyone wants to be clever and get the best new thing.

He was hurt.

 

[Big Nate]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

All true.......but he is a boring choice at the top of the draft. There are always guys like that and they drop farther than they should.

I really don't care if he's boring. He will score points and help my fantasy team win. Some people are sleeping on him. Like any RB it comes down to health. If Taylor stays healthy then he's going to do well.

 

[Gally]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

All true.......but he is a boring choice at the top of the draft. There are always guys like that and they drop farther than they should.

I really don't care if he's boring. He will score points and help my fantasy team win. Some people are sleeping on him. Like any RB it comes down to health. If Taylor stays healthy then he's going to do well.

I said many (not necessarily you) want to be clever and get the shiny new up and coming league winner. It happens every year and lets the boring, solid player slip further than they should. This year I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is that boring, solid guy that isn't sexy to draft but will pay off. That is all I meant.

 

[Big Nate]

In 10 games last year he had 741 yards and 7 TD's.
Over 17 weeks that would be 1,259 yards and 12 TD's.
To me, that is his floor.

In the first two games back he had just 37 yards total.
So he had over 700 yards rushing in his last 8 games.
If you use that as the base, you are looking at 1,500 yards rushing and 15 TD's.

All true.......but he is a boring choice at the top of the draft. There are always guys like that and they drop farther than they should.

I really don't care if he's boring. He will score points and help my fantasy team win. Some people are sleeping on him. Like any RB it comes down to health. If Taylor stays healthy then he's going to do well.

I said many (not necessarily you) want to be clever and get the shiny new up and coming league winner. It happens every year and lets the boring, solid player slip further than they should. This year I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is that boring, solid guy that isn't sexy to draft but will pay off. That is all I meant.

Oh yeah I agree with you. Maybe I worded my reply wrong I was in a rush. You make a good point and I was just kinda running with it a bit sideways. All good!

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Checking underdog ADP (of course WR crazy over there)
CMC- 1.01
Bijan and Breece 1.07 and 1.08
Gibbs 1.12
Taylor and Barkley 2.03 and 2.04

ESPN's "Live Draft Trends"- doubt there's been too many redraft leagues drafted but this is more typical of what my home league will look like:
CMC 1.01
Breece 1.04
Bijan 1.06
Barkley 1.09
Taylor 1.10
Gibbs 1.12

We draft the weekend before kickoff so things will undoubtedly change before then but I'm high on JT this year and for sure if he's there at 11, he's my guy. Those underdog maniacs love that Gibbs ceiling.

 

[Faust]

@32BeatWriters
"It’s possible that a healthy Taylor becomes the highest percentage carry guy of any running back in the league, although Richardson’s presence might influence that."

"On the early downs, Trey Sermon probably needs to be viewed as the favorite there. Others like Tyler Goodson and Evan Hull could factor into more receiving centric roles."

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[FarFromHome]

My guy. Will always be my guy. About to lead the league in rushing.

 

[Payne]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

 

[JoeJoe88]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

 

[Big Nate]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

If all area healthy I rank them Hall, JT then Bijan but the last 2 are close. I like all their potential this year but Hall if healthy is #1. In redraft depending how the first round goes I'd probably rather get a WR than Bijan and then maybe get JT in the 2nd. I think all three could have a good year.

 

[JoeJoe88]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

If all area healthy I rank them Hall, JT then Bijan but the last 2 are close. I like all their potential this year but Hall if healthy is #1. In redraft depending how the first round goes I'd probably rather get a WR than Bijan and then maybe get JT in the 2nd. I think all three could have a good year.

Interesting. I have Breece and Bijan as essentially interchangeable. Gun to my head, I’d probably lean Bijan. I can see a 23+ ppg season from either of them, I’m not sure I quite see that high of a ceiling with JT.

 

[Blick]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

If all area healthy I rank them Hall, JT then Bijan but the last 2 are close. I like all their potential this year but Hall if healthy is #1. In redraft depending how the first round goes I'd probably rather get a WR than Bijan and then maybe get JT in the 2nd. I think all three could have a good year.

Interesting. I have Breece and Bijan as essentially interchangeable. Gun to my head, I’d probably lean Bijan. I can see a 23+ ppg season from either of them, I’m not sure I quite see that high of a ceiling with JT.

It really comes down to receptions. If he can get 4-5 targets/game, I think he's got a chance to be this year's RB1.

 

[JoeJoe88]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

If all area healthy I rank them Hall, JT then Bijan but the last 2 are close. I like all their potential this year but Hall if healthy is #1. In redraft depending how the first round goes I'd probably rather get a WR than Bijan and then maybe get JT in the 2nd. I think all three could have a good year.

Interesting. I have Breece and Bijan as essentially interchangeable. Gun to my head, I’d probably lean Bijan. I can see a 23+ ppg season from either of them, I’m not sure I quite see that high of a ceiling with JT.

It really comes down to receptions. If he can get 4-5 targets/game, I think he's got a chance to be this year's RB1.

Yeah, that’s the rub. Just not sure I see Richardson checking it down nearly as much as two non-mobile, veteran qbs, both of whom are coming off significant injuries. I think the td potential for Bijan and Breece is higher as well.

 

[Big Nate]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

If all area healthy I rank them Hall, JT then Bijan but the last 2 are close. I like all their potential this year but Hall if healthy is #1. In redraft depending how the first round goes I'd probably rather get a WR than Bijan and then maybe get JT in the 2nd. I think all three could have a good year.

Interesting. I have Breece and Bijan as essentially interchangeable. Gun to my head, I’d probably lean Bijan. I can see a 23+ ppg season from either of them, I’m not sure I quite see that high of a ceiling with JT.

Could happen with Bijan, as long as Cousins is healthy and good to go. Same though for all these RBs. If their starting QBs stay healthy all year then it raises their TD potential. If a QB gets hurt and the back-up goes it in might not go so well if the offence keeps stalling out.

I think JT is underrated right now as Teams will have to pay so much attention to ARich that it could open up some big holes for JT. And JT is one more offseason away from his ankle injury. The nice thing about JT is he doesn't cost you a first round pick in redraft, nor as expensive as Hall or Bijan in dynasty but still offers top 5 RB potential.

 

[joey]

I think JT is underrated right now as Teams will have to pay so much attention to ARich that it could open up some big holes for JT. And JT is one more offseason away from his ankle injury. The nice thing about JT is he doesn't cost you a first round pick in redraft, nor as expensive as Hall or Bijan in dynasty but still offers top 5 RB potential.

I do not believe this will be the case when most redrafts happen in mid/late August. I see Taylor, Gibbs and Barkley as part of a RB/WR draft approach at the 10,11,12 spots at the turn.

 

[packdog]

I think JT is underrated right now as Teams will have to pay so much attention to ARich that it could open up some big holes for JT. And JT is one more offseason away from his ankle injury. The nice thing about JT is he doesn't cost you a first round pick in redraft, nor as expensive as Hall or Bijan in dynasty but still offers top 5 RB potential.

I do not believe this will be the case when most redrafts happen in mid/late August. I see Taylor, Gibbs and Barkley as part of a RB/WR draft approach at the 10,11,12 spots at the turn.

maybe. did a few early drafts from the mid-end slots and right now those rbs are where i've been going wr/rb. bark seems to slip more than JT. from the top slots etn in 2nd is almost criminal in my mind as he should be right there with jt, bark, and gibbs. people do tend to follow site rankings which favor wr cause ppr points. i agree JT should prolly go in back third of 1st round and is a value atm. once ajb is off the board those rbs might fly in a decent run at end of first come august. they rightly should but maybe not if site rankings keep listing them below wrs. jt is gonna be harder to find at a slight discount compared to bark and etn though

 

[Scoresman]

Have we ever had a season where such elite RB talent was also paired with elite running QB talent?

Taylor/ARich
Saquon/Hurts
Henry/Jackson

 

[Faust]

Joel A. Erickson
Chris Ballard: "Jonathan Taylor will have a big year."

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[Payne]

I'm glad others are focusing on Hall, Robinson and Saquon. Give me JT all day.

You would take JT over Bijan and Hall?

Didn't say that. But I disagree with the gap in projections. I think Taylor belongs in the same tier as Bijan and Hall.
And he has proven he can be that guy already in his career.