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RB Jo'Quavious “Woody” Marks, HOU (3 Viewers)

Baltimore next week which normally would give me pause but their defense has been dreadful the first 3 games so could be another good matchup. Especially in terms of catches
 
Jo'Quavious “Woody” Marks rushed 17 times for 69 yards and a touchdown in Houston’s Week 4 win against the Titans, adding four catches for 50 yards and another touchdown on five targets.

Don’t expect this level of success from Marks every week — he’s on the Texans — but he’s clearly the best back in the Houston backfield at this point. Marks outsnapped Nick Chubb 40-30 while watching the snap count grow larger in his favor in the second half. His best highlight was probably a pancake block of a blitzing Titans defender, but he also had a great cut on his touchdown run and generally looked as explosive as you’d hope. He doesn’t have enough volume to make us comfortable saying he’s a sure RB2 in Week 5 against the Ravens, but he’s certainly closer than he was before Week 4.
- Rotoworld
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The Frankman said:
Jo'Quavious “Woody” Marks rushed 17 times for 69 yards and a touchdown in Houston’s Week 4 win against the Titans, adding four catches for 50 yards and another touchdown on five targets.

Don’t expect this level of success from Marks every week — he’s on the Texans — but he’s clearly the best back in the Houston backfield at this point. Marks outsnapped Nick Chubb 40-30 while watching the snap count grow larger in his favor in the second half. His best highlight was probably a pancake block of a blitzing Titans defender, but he also had a great cut on his touchdown run and generally looked as explosive as you’d hope. He doesn’t have enough volume to make us comfortable saying he’s a sure RB2 in Week 5 against the Ravens, but he’s certainly closer than he was before Week 4.
- Rotoworld
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Doesn’t have enough volume? He had 21 touches lol
 
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The Frankman said:
@ponchsox it's the snap count on his touches, very unsustainable. He only played 40-71 snaps (56%). That kind of volume/success on such a low snap count isn't realistic.
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Most of your posts about yesterday's games have been about snap counts. It's clearly a thing for you this week for whatever reason.

The thing is, snap count percentages are not static. They vary greatly from week to week based on gameplan and game script. And they can change drastically due to injury or improved performance or worse performance. 56% is a huge jump from just above 0% at the beginning of the season.

It's flawed to assume 56% is the norm going forward. It's also flawed to assume that 56% won't usually produce good fantasy numbers. It's more about how a player does with the snaps they get than about how many they get.
 
I could reference usage rate but it didn't stand out a ton. For the record, I went back spedwatched the game... he and Chubb alternated a lot of drives. It could have simply been a fact that Marks' success made those drive last longer than Chubb, which is why you hope his volume picks up, but that's not guaranteed.

As for me referencing snaps only... you have to be on the field somewhat consistently as a RB to better accumulate touches. It's not like WR where you could get all the snaps but be running cardio out there (need targets/Target Share %/etc.). For example, go check the Omarion Hampton thread and see the usage he got yesterday. Hell, go check the Jacory Croskey-Merritt thread for why snaps are important. As for the blurb comment that "you would like to see more volume"... everyone would like that, how is that even inflammatory? :D
 
The Frankman said:
I could reference usage rate but it didn't stand out a ton. For the record, I went back spedwatched the game... he and Chubb alternated a lot of drives. It could have simply been a fact that Marks' success made those drive last longer than Chubb, which is why you hope his volume picks up, but that's not guaranteed.

As for me referencing snaps only... you have to be on the field somewhat consistently as a RB to better accumulate touches. It's not like WR where you could get all the snaps but be running cardio out there (need targets/Target Share %/etc.). For example, go check the Omarion Hampton thread and see the usage he got yesterday. Hell, go check the Jacory Croskey-Merritt thread for why snaps are important. As for the blurb comment that "you would like to see more volume"... everyone would like that, how is that even inflammatory? :D
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Just from watching the game it seemed like Woody got the lion's share as the game progressed. You can have all your stats but I like that trend. Also encouraged by the things Demeco said about him afterward. I don't think he's as afraid of rookies as Caley is. Think Demeco will apply pressure to start the little guy.
 
Ray Barboni said:
So … what’s the FAAB dump here? 70-80%

?

Non-dynasty. Roster is “set” just need another back to keep CMC stocks “ok”
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is available in 0 of my redraft leagues. n=21

but if he is somehow sitting there, yes. but maybe more like 80-92% depending on how much you prefer winning to losing. jk IDK but it's going to take that much to win the bid.
 
Jo'Quavious “Woody” Marks rushed seven times for 24 yards in Houston’s Week 5 win against the Ravens.

He did outsnap Nick Chubb 27-24 before the starters gave way to Dameon Pierce, and a holding penalty ran back a run that would have ended inside the Baltimore 5. But it’s hard to not call it disappointing after waiver runs to go scoreless with 24 yards in a game where the Texans scored 44 points. Marks is best-approached as a high-end FLEX after his Week 6 bye.
- Rotoworld
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Nathan Jahnke - NFL Week 5 Recap: Immediate fantasy football takeaways from Sunday's games
Nick Chubb continues to start for Houston: Woody Marks had the more impressive week last week, but Chubb impressed more this week.

Marks slowly but surely worked his way up the depth chart during the first half of the season. He was ahead of Dameon Pierce as the backup on early downs in Week 2, and Dare Ogunbowale stopped being used in most passing situations in Week 3. The last player for him to overtake was Chubb. Last week, Marks ran 17 times for 69 yards and a touchdown while catching four passes for 50 yards and another touchdown, while Chubb ran 13 times for 47 yards. The two were used interchangeably, as both running backs played some snaps on nearly every drive.

The rotation didn’t change this week, as Chubb started the game, and the two continued to share every drive. Marks tended to play in passing situations, leading to Chubb being on the field more in running situations. Chubb was the one making big plays this week, including a 27-yard touchdown run. Marks ran seven times for 24 yards. One problem is that the Texans gained too big a lead too early, leading them to use backups at the end of the game. Marks was too high up the depth chart at this point to be used in garbage time.

Marks will likely remain the better fantasy option of the two running backs, as he’s more likely to make the big plays going forward. However, we have not reached a point where he is a must-start fantasy option. He should at least remain on fantasy rosters, even if he’s not in your starting lineup.
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Well I feel pretty sick dropping Bill for this guy. I thought it'd be a committee in Washington and all the sudden they give Bill starter usage and he blows up. What makes it worse is I blew all my FAAB on Woody. I should have known better than to overreact to a 1 week blowup.
 
I was thinking about this game today and why Marks didn’t get the chances like last game. How did I miss the situation so badly?

I think it may have been as simple as they didn’t need him. The Ravens are so horrific on defense they can just ran a plodder (at this point) like Chubb and they don’t need a more dynamic back. Save him for later….thats my hope.
 
Banger said:
Oooff. That didn’t go liked I hoped. Not even garbage time.
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Yeah, not sure why they didn't let the rook get some more in-game experience unless they are really comfortable with him and didn't want to risk injury. Still encouraging that he outsnapped Chubb. Those two should dominate touches in competitive games. Marks had, think 58% snap share last week, so if he is 60/40 lead back most weeks, including passing down work, I'll take it.
 
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports that the Texans “still view” RB Woody Marks as “predominantly a passing-game back and one who had a bit of an injury history in college.”

Unfortunately, this confirms what we saw last week. In games where the Texans are “up big and running the ball,” veteran RB Nick Chubb “still has the playing time edge.” Marks had seemingly made a strong case for the Texans’ lead running back role in Week 4, but the coaches view things differently than much of the fantasy community. We must now reset expectations. Marks can still return high-end FLEX value, particularly in PPR leagues, operating as a receiving back with part-time rushing duties, but treating him as a potential RB2 now appears to be unreasonable.
- Source - ESPN's Jeremy Fowler
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Hey it’s me. The guy that dropped his entire FAAB on Woody and proceeded to start him in my flex virtually ruining my week.

Chubb ended up on the wire after waivers. I guess I have to throw a zero bid out for him to own this backfield?
 
Monkian said:
Banger said:
Oooff. That didn’t go liked I hoped. Not even garbage time.
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Yeah, not sure why they didn't let the rook get some more in-game experience unless they are really comfortable with him and didn't want to risk injury. Still encouraging that he outsnapped Chubb. Those two should dominate touches in competitive games. Marks had, think 58% snap share last week, so if he is 60/40 lead back most weeks, including passing down work, I'll take it.
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As someone who watched the game I think they 100% did not want to risk injury to either him or Chubb. They are a bit of a mini thunder and lightning and complement each other well currently. Pierce is nothing but emergency depth at this point IMO
 
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