Boston
Footballguy
They really trust Hill…I have said it multiple times but he reminds me of Kevin Faulk with the Pats…they have full confidence in him in both the run and pass game and it’s not a fluke they just extended him.
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RB Keaton Mitchell, BAL (2 Viewers)
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They really trust Hill…I have said it multiple times but he reminds me of Kevin Faulk with the Pats…they have full confidence in him in both the run and pass game and it’s not a fluke they just extended him.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
With Lamar coming out saying Henry has a great chance breaking rushing record looks like they aren't going to scale back his rushing attempts. Would think an injury to Henry or Hill for Keaton to have any starting value.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I don’t think anyone stashing him
in an IR spot is thinking he takes away from the two highly successful backs in front of him.
Fo deep leagues, he’s another lottery ticket. Lot of redraft players in 18-20 x12-14 leagues stash 3-6 tickets. Most of them never pan out but it’s a thing. Whole thread here dedicated to ranking lotto tickets.
in an IR spot is thinking he takes away from the two highly successful backs in front of him.
Fo deep leagues, he’s another lottery ticket. Lot of redraft players in 18-20 x12-14 leagues stash 3-6 tickets. Most of them never pan out but it’s a thing. Whole thread here dedicated to ranking lotto tickets.
I do.
Just for starters to be literal about this if he gets about any touch at all he'll be taking away because I don't think another RB has had a touch other then these two.
It's not enough to make him fantasy relevant but role I envision for him is the COP back to Henry with Hill handling the passing down role. Most see it this way, no? That could end up chipping into both of them a bit as he'd be a pretty dynamic COP to Henry who they might want not make sure to not overwork and that's a role Hill has been playing above and beyond the passing down work.
But not fantasy relevant without an injury, not replacing the role Hill plays as passing down/2 minute back. Might break off a long TD here and there but nothing anyone can bank on. But he might be the direct handcuff to both of them, with the caveat of if he's the same player so agree he's a lotto ticket. Picking are slim in some of my 12/20 sized national contest for a "potential" lotto ticket RB on the wire so I grabbed him in a few spots, one mainly as a Henry handcuff because my RB depth is horrendous.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Exactly. He's a lottery ticket with a very remote chance of being fantasy start-able in 2024. He was on limited reps last season with Gus Edwards and Justice Hill, and now the team has Derrick Henry and Hill is playing his best football of his career. Even with an injury to one of those two, Keaton Mitchell is likely still just second in line for carries, assuming they don't just have Rasheen Ali in that role instead. Going to probably be another year before Mitchell is back to fully being himself. Only reason he's still worth stashing is because it's a free space with the IR and he's shown to have explosive ability running the ball. Maybe John Harbaugh surprises all of us and uses Mitchell more than expected. This is a great offense to have a featured RB in. It doesn't hurt to wait and see how it plays out, but I'm keeping expectations low for now.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
They will sprinkle him in if healthy. Tough for defenses to go from trying to drag down Henry to seeing a blur in Keaton.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
nittanylion
Footballguy
Stashing Keaton Mitchell on every Henry-centric build Team I'm running, and everywhere else where I have room to stash.
IMHO, he's Jaylen Wright squared. Better situation, you've got that right. 3rd Wheel under normal circumstances, absolutely. Change of pace to healthy Henry for sure, with a healthy Justice having his own role.
Can fill the Justice role, if Justice gets hurt, but if Henry gets hurt, or they rest him late in the Season, and you're competing in Playoffs that take place in Weeks 17 and 18 of the NFL Regular Season, well now...that's a whole other story.
I'm going to go ahead and call him a League Winner - if he's in a 1-2 punch with Justice, and Henry is inactive.
We're getting close to the end of the window where he can be had for peanuts. If you have the room, he's one of the highest priority stashes there is, IMHO.
IMHO, he's Jaylen Wright squared. Better situation, you've got that right. 3rd Wheel under normal circumstances, absolutely. Change of pace to healthy Henry for sure, with a healthy Justice having his own role.
Can fill the Justice role, if Justice gets hurt, but if Henry gets hurt, or they rest him late in the Season, and you're competing in Playoffs that take place in Weeks 17 and 18 of the NFL Regular Season, well now...that's a whole other story.
I'm going to go ahead and call him a League Winner - if he's in a 1-2 punch with Justice, and Henry is inactive.
We're getting close to the end of the window where he can be had for peanuts. If you have the room, he's one of the highest priority stashes there is, IMHO.
Chaka
Footballguy
He's not eating into the Henry/Hill dynamic in any significant way.
In 2024, at best we can hope for is Monken will have a gadget package for him to put stuff on tape to give defenses one more thing to worry about.
But he doesn't have a fantasy startable role in 2024, outside of an insanely deep starting league or massive injuries necessitating it.
In 2024, at best we can hope for is Monken will have a gadget package for him to put stuff on tape to give defenses one more thing to worry about.
But he doesn't have a fantasy startable role in 2024, outside of an insanely deep starting league or massive injuries necessitating it.
fatness
Footballguy
I think his value is in between these 2 opinions.
He can be electrifying, even on mundane-seeming plays. The Ravens know this and they trust him.
My guess is he'll be used to lighten Henry's workload. The Ravens seem to love Hill, as they should, it's not like Mitchell will take over his role.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Not a simple ACL tear, correct? Wasn't dude's knee basically shredded with all three major ligaments torn? And surgery was what, nine mos ago?
Modern medicine and all, finding this extensive talk in this thread about his explosiveness being an X factor a major leap in hopium for 2024, at least.
Modern medicine and all, finding this extensive talk in this thread about his explosiveness being an X factor a major leap in hopium for 2024, at least.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Might be a roster casualty in one of my dynasty leagues tbh. Love Batman Mitchell but don’t really see how he’s going to have predictable usage/points in the near term. He’s been safely tucked away in an IR spot and I’m not sure I can legislate fitting him in and dropping someone off my main roster
Was a tiny sample size but he was electric for sure but also historically efficient.
I would actually put Wrights teammate as his best comp.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Guy was awesome last year but he had the injury on 12/18 last year. Still less than a year away from it. I'm sure he's done enough to get on the field again but will he have the same explosiveness that he had before it yet? I have a feeling he won't be fully back until next season.
Add in that Henry is having a career year and I'm not sure where he fits in other than a handcuff.
Add in that Henry is having a career year and I'm not sure where he fits in other than a handcuff.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Picked him up off waivers on Monday and got Justice Hill in a trade that I shipped JJSS and Bigsby off for that also included Mooney coming back to me. Hopefully the Ravens run game stays on pace through the playoffs as I think I'm set. Had him last year and was loving his production before the injury. Cant wait to see what he does, and I can be patient.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I think he can be a guy that gets 6-10 touches a game and does a lot with it.
And I think Henry being on the team only helps it.
The problem is it will be very boom or bust. But the booms will be big.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I don't see much boom happening this year
All I know is it sucks they activated him yesterday. That basically moves up my need to clear a roster spot for him two weeks in multiple leagues vs them doing it later next week. Was not planning on that.
And saying that not sure what rush they were in and why they not think he could use the extra 10 days or so until the next game? That was odd to me and not just because it was bad for me.
And saying that not sure what rush they were in and why they not think he could use the extra 10 days or so until the next game? That was odd to me and not just because it was bad for me.
Apple Juice
Footballguy
They're eager to get him acclimated because he looks so explosive in practice?
Runkle
Footballguy
Maybe he was active because they could have needed him in an emergency situation?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I still don't think I can find a way to hold onto this guy. With Henry in front of him I don't see a path to fantasy relevance.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I agree, you can only clog the roster with so many of these guys. Love Keaton’s talent, but you have Henry and Harbaugh loves Hill as well.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Every backup is literally one play away from relevance. This guy has proven that he's good enough to step in and produce at a high level if needed. In the unfortunate event of a King Henry injury, he has a lot of value.
Black and Gold
Footballguy
Having Henry on my dynasty roster, Mitchell is an easy hold.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I think if Henry goes down it's Hill and Mitchell in a committee, but Mitchell certainly looks good.
A path to relevance is easy to see. It may not happen but the path is easy to figure out.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I don’t disagree, but do think it would be a split with Hill if Henry gets dinged. Nice part is, Keaton has shown to produce well even with limited touches.
rockaction
Footballguy
Interesting that he was not big enough but now is 5’8” 191 (who knows?) for a BMI of 29. He looks bigger than he was. He was not big enough before. He just wasn’t.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Looks fast for that thickness, too.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Makes sense. He likely had slimmed down for the combine/pro days to try and get a sub 4.40 time. Which he did. He put that weight back on, started working out at an NFL level, just naturally gtew as a man. You are right that now he looks like can handle regular NFL touches.
rockaction
Footballguy
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for sure.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree with that, he's best suited in a lightning role attached to some thunder.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for sure.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Can we all agree he’s better than justice hill though?I agree with that, he's best suited in a lightning role attached to some thunder.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for sure.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yes to more exciting, more explosive. Not sure yet if he's as complete as Hill. But yes I am hoping!Can we all agree he’s better than justice hill though?I agree with that, he's best suited in a lightning role attached to some thunder.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for sure.
Dreamer
Footballguy
People said the same exact thing about Alvin Kamara coming out of college.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It worked out fine for Kamara. He did measure in at 5'10" 214 at the combine. That's a much more typical NFL RB body.People said the same exact thing about Alvin Kamara coming out of college.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for
rockaction
Footballguy
I’m sorry you heard that once about a totally incomparable back.People said the same exact thing about Alvin Kamara coming out of college.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
If you count on injuries sure. Based purely on skill, not in my league with short benches.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
They have two different roles, so I don't necessarily agree. Hill's a better blocker, receiver, and is a core STer. Mitchell's faster and is still learning.Can we all agree he’s better than justice hill though?I agree with that, he's best suited in a lightning role attached to some thunder.
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not jump the gun here .
191 lbs. is still a bit undersized. I don’t know if Mitchell ever touches a ball more than 14 times in a game. But he was once nowhere near what y’all were hoping. He did get thicker for sure.
If I had to choose one in a FF Best Ball contest, I'd take Mitchell. In deep dynasty leagues, I think both should be rostered.
