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RB Khalil Herbert, IND (1 Viewer)

Week 8 Fantasy Football Stats: Chargers' run D holding Justin Herbert back?

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Khalil Herbert is 9th in rushing yards over expectation

Interestingly enough, fellow Bears back David Montgomery is 10th. This goes to show that Herbert hasn’t just been propped up by volume — he’s been legitimately good this season.

Damien Williams didn’t get much practice time in last week but Herbert should still run ahead of him going forward. Herbert is a young player the Bears can keep around at a low cost for years; It’s worth developing him.

The more interesting conversation is what happens when Montgomery returns. Can the Bears afford to put this lightning back in the bottle or might we be looking at a slight split when the vet is back? It depends on how strong Herbert continues to run in his absence. He'll get a 49ers defense this weekend that ranks 26th in explosive rushing plays allowed.
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sushinsky4tsar said:
Matt Waldman's "curvilinear lines" that reminded him of Dalvin Cook reeled me in hook line and sinker.

....just like it did for Darwin Thompson being "Dion Lewis with thump". 
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Can’t hit them all. I respect Waldman a lot as he sticks to his process and his rankings are typically far from chalk. There is more than talent that goes into actually translating into FF production sometimes it just doesn’t work out for certain players. But I personally enjoy his unique perspectives as it has helped me identify a lot of guys early who many were not paying attention to.

 
King of the Jungle said:
Can’t hit them all. I respect Waldman a lot as he sticks to his process and his rankings are typically far from chalk. There is more than talent that goes into actually translating into FF production sometimes it just doesn’t work out for certain players. But I personally enjoy his unique perspectives as it has helped me identify a lot of guys early who many were not paying attention to.
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Exactly. I made the mistake of drafting only guys he liked which I wouldn't recommend. He has such sound logic that its so tempting to defer to his expertise. But he doesn't paint a complete picture and falls in loves with his eye for talent so it takes him awhile to come around to guys who are legit like DK Metcalf. Also, guys who are sleepers you really got be careful about overhyping. He really tends to do that a lot for unproven backs but they have so much going against them that for every Herbert there's a Darwin Thompson, Trey Sermon, and Ty'son Williams.

 
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What say ye prognosticators? What happens when Monty comes back? 50/50?
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If he goes off the next two games, then I think that's a real possibility if not the base expectation. This offense isn't getting anything done through the air so they might as well run it 30-40 times a game. He may be startable even with Monty back but let's see how he does these next couple games and what the organization's response is.

I always worry about trusting the bears though as they don't really have rational coaching. It is still a real possibility Monty gets 100% and Herbert becomes a backup like Mattison was for Dalvin Cook. Or it could be more like Zeke/Pollard. Who knows. Best to sit him the first game Monty is back.

 
tigerz said:
If he goes off the next two games, then I think that's a real possibility if not the base expectation. This offense isn't getting anything done through the air so they might as well run it 30-40 times a game. He may be startable even with Monty back but let's see how he does these next couple games and what the organization's response is.

I always worry about trusting the bears though as they don't really have rational coaching. It is still a real possibility Monty gets 100% and Herbert becomes a backup like Mattison was for Dalvin Cook. Or it could be more like Zeke/Pollard. Who knows. Best to sit him the first game Monty is back.
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my issue is I may be forced to drop him. Super short bench and no takers in the trade market. 

 
tigerz said:
Do you got to drop him now or when Monty is back? Lot can change in 2 to 3 weeks.
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when Monty comes back. I’m starting him until then for the most part. I can carry no more than four RBs and have cmc, Collins, Javonte, Herbert. I also have Cordarelle but am currently forced to start him as a WR to stay within the rules (which is killing me this week as I have AJB, DJM and Pittman, all startable).

 
-jb- said:
when Monty comes back. I’m starting him until then for the most part. I can carry no more than four RBs and have cmc, Collins, Javonte, Herbert. I also have Cordarelle but am currently forced to start him as a WR to stay within the rules (which is killing me this week as I have AJB, DJM and Pittman, all startable).
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I hate artificial limits on positions. Especially RB… you always have injuries. Honestly, I think Herbert may end up being the better rookie than javonte at the end of the year.also you may end up dropping collins if Carson comes back after week 9 bye.

 
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tigerz said:
I hate artificial limits on positions. Especially RB… you always have injuries. Honestly, I think Herbert may end up being the better rookie than javonte at the end of the year.
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You may be right. Glad I have him despite the current issue. 

 
What you guys think of Montgomery possibly playing on Monday...  Feels like it's Deja Vu except its Montgomery instead of Williams. I hate how they play games like this. Matchup was already bad but volume was assured. Now volume is in question but I don't know if Have any choice but to hope Herbert is startable.

 
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Khalil Herbert rushed four times for 13 yards in the Bears' Week 9 loss to the Steelers.

With David Montgomery back from his knee injury, Herbert was out-carried 13-4 while Montgomery saw both of the duo's pass-game targets. Herbert is merely an end-of-bench stash moving forward in the event of another Montgomery injury.

Nov 9, 2021, 12:17 AM ET
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This board is littered with threads about rb's that looked good for a couple of weeks and then go nowhere...

 
As a Monty owner I will be considering picking him up when he does get dropped if I can squeeze space for a handcuff. To be honest I am still wondering which of the two are better or pretty close in talent when healthy - Khalil Herbert or Damien Williams? Williams still questionable knee, but this too shall pass. 

 
Montgomery's contract goes thru next year so, in dynasty, Herbert is a hold for both injury to Monty and looking ahead another year. Can be both short term and long term benefits if you have the room. Of course I’m going to stash him in all 3 of the dynasty leagues where I own him now (nothing better on the waiver wire anyway in my leagues). It’ll be at cut down time (all FFPC-style 14-positional-player keeper rules) this offseason where the difficult decisions will need to be made. But that'll likely lead to a trade attempt of  Herbert to the Monty owner if I can’t find room. 
 

signed,

Likely Stating The Obvious ;)  

 
BobbyLayne said:
Is this happening in anyone’s league? Seems like an obvious block if you have him rostered.
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Shallow benches, bye week / injury issues. With peoples need to stream each week I’d even rather have pollard or Mattison than herbert on bye. I tend to treat FA as my second bench and stack the RBs who can help me now or could potentially be the guy next week over the guy with upside down the line but unplayable until then. Guys like dernest can give you a win now which is more valuable than a potential win weeks from now. Were in must win territory for playoffs. There’s not much future left.

 
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RB Khalil Herbert, Chicago Bears: Herbert was a sixth-round pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, but worked his way into being David Montgomery's primary backup after an impressive camp. He then took advantage of a four-game stretch in which Montgomery was battling injury by producing 388 yards from scrimmage. With Montgomery established as the previous coaching staff's workhorse, Herbert didn't have a large role when the former was at full strength, but a new coaching staff means new opportunity for the Kansas and Virginia Tech product.

"Herbert is one of the best late-round RBs you can target as a sleeper, as he should get the opportunity to play more this year when Montgomery is healthy while also showing the ability to serve as a lead back if Montgomery is ever injured," White told SportsLine. "He also enjoyed great success on zone runs, which should be the backbone of Getsy's rushing scheme."

 
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CHICAGO BEARS: RB KHALIL HERBERT

Chicago making improvements to its offensive line deep into July is great news for the team’s backfield, which is one of the biggest areas of strength on paper heading into the season. David Montgomery is a good back, but he was out-performed last season by Herbert on a per-carry basis. Herbert earned an 84.4 PFF rushing grade on 103 carries, averaging more yards per carry than Montgomery and more after contact. Herbert's performance should warrant more playing time, but he needs the blocking in front of him to maximize that opportunity. 

 
Heard the news earlier tonight, Khalil Herbert was carted off at practice, suffering what may possibly be a "significant injury".
I've only seen a few bulletins and a few Twitter acknowledgements, so nothing concrete yet.
Eberflus wouldn't comment on the injury, hopefully Sunday at some point.
This was going to be one of my "go-to backfields" this season.....targeting Montgomery then Khalil Herbert late in drafts (after starting WR-WR in our leagues)
The camp buzz seemed like he was pushing for more work and looking great, then now this.
Hopefully we get some good news today, but after these cryptic reports, I'm kinda doubting it.
😕
 

Khalil Herbert rushed nine times for 45 yards and a touchdown in the Bears' Week 1 win over the 49ers.​


Herbert "added" a -2 yard reception. David Montgomery out-touched Herbert 21-10, while Pro Football Focus charted D-Mont out-snapping Herbert 38-17. It was Herbert, however, who out-rushed Montgomery 45-26 and was in the game in what amounted to closing time, the goal-line series where Herbert converted a three-yard score for a score and 19-10 lead the Bears would not relinquish. The extreme, rainy weather conditions in Chicago this afternoon made for some wonky box scores, but it is hard to believe Herbert is going to go away. He provides standalone fantasy value as an RB3 and could continue to cut into Montgomery's touch and snap advantages. He should be 100 percent rostered.
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The Frankman said:

Khalil Herbert rushed nine times for 45 yards and a touchdown in the Bears' Week 1 win over the 49ers.​


Herbert "added" a -2 yard reception. David Montgomery out-touched Herbert 21-10, while Pro Football Focus charted D-Mont out-snapping Herbert 38-17. It was Herbert, however, who out-rushed Montgomery 45-26 and was in the game in what amounted to closing time, the goal-line series where Herbert converted a three-yard score for a score and 19-10 lead the Bears would not relinquish. The extreme, rainy weather conditions in Chicago this afternoon made for some wonky box scores, but it is hard to believe Herbert is going to go away. He provides standalone fantasy value as an RB3 and could continue to cut into Montgomery's touch and snap advantages. He should be 100 percent rostered.
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I think there could be some optimism that Herbert could continue to carve out a larger role for himself. I don't know that he'll completely take over the reigns but week 1 was definitely promising if you snagged Herbert in the last rounds of your draft. Yesterday's game was a mess but he looked good on his carries late in the game.
 
Banger said:
think there could be some optimism that Herbert could continue to carve out a larger role for himself. I don't know that he'll completely take over the reigns but week 1 was definitely promising if you snagged Herbert in the last rounds of your draft. Yesterday's game was a mess but he looked good on his carries late in the game.
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I think it is just as likely that this is the split between Montgomery & Herbert.

But, you never know.
 
Chaka said:
Banger said:
think there could be some optimism that Herbert could continue to carve out a larger role for himself. I don't know that he'll completely take over the reigns but week 1 was definitely promising if you snagged Herbert in the last rounds of your draft. Yesterday's game was a mess but he looked good on his carries late in the game.
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I think it is just as likely that this is the split between Montgomery & Herbert.

But, you never know.
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for sure...I tend to view these situations rationally (which clearly doesn't always work) and if Herbert continues to outperform side by side he "should" garner increased workload. It's a new regime and Monty is on his way out after this year so they have no allegiance to him. The fact we're talking a split after one game where Monty was drafted at RB18 / 42nd overall vs. Herbert who's ADP was RB52 / 149th overall is a pretty steep rise in a game. Again, it's one game but many of the things I was hoping for worked out...on to week 2....
 
Just keeping the enthusiasm thread for Khalil going. He sits on the waiver wire in one league. Once Godwin is officially out, it will open up a bench spot. I see Pierce and Herbert. Considering one of them, or a flyer on a rookie GB WR lol.
 

Khalil Herbert rushed four times for 38 yards in Chicago's Week 2 loss to Green Bay, adding a three-yard catch on his only target.​

He had a 27-yard carry as part of a big Bears second-half drive focused on the run, but David Montgomery was playing so well that Herbert didn't see the same kind of volume he did in Week 1. He's a great stash because he can deliver major value against a Montgomery injury, and the Bears desperately want to run the ball so he could bring some FLEX weeks to the table even as a backup. Week 3's game against the Texans could be one of those FLEX-value opportunities.
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Banger said:
Chaka said:
Banger said:
think there could be some optimism that Herbert could continue to carve out a larger role for himself. I don't know that he'll completely take over the reigns but week 1 was definitely promising if you snagged Herbert in the last rounds of your draft. Yesterday's game was a mess but he looked good on his carries late in the game.
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I think it is just as likely that this is the split between Montgomery & Herbert.

But, you never know.
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for sure...I tend to view these situations rationally (which clearly doesn't always work) and if Herbert continues to outperform side by side he "should" garner increased workload. It's a new regime and Monty is on his way out after this year so they have no allegiance to him. The fact we're talking a split after one game where Monty was drafted at RB18 / 42nd overall vs. Herbert who's ADP was RB52 / 149th overall is a pretty steep rise in a game. Again, it's one game but many of the things I was hoping for worked out...on to week 2....
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Giddyup if Monty is out…he‘s a top 10 rb in this offense.
 
When I lost Lance it left me with only Tannehill and Mills at QB. I offered a guy (who has Montgomery) Herbert and a 2nd rd pick in next years draft for one of his ten QBs that he’s decided to hoard in a start 1 league. I didn’t get a reply. Sometimes it’s the trades that you don’t make. Whew.
 
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