RB Le'Veon Bell, FA (3 Viewers)

[False Start]

He was never arrested or charged with anything.

People should stop saying this. Justice isn't a reflection of reality. No one gives a crap about his legal status as a rapist.

It makes all the difference in the world.

Clearly not! I find it ironic anyone would say this when in society it doesnt matter if a person is convicted or not but just if he was arrested.

OJ didnt get convicted of murder, yet everyone knew he did it. I better see you in the OJ thread from years back claiming he didnt do it.

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

 

[kyoun1e]

If anyone actually watched the game last night they should be alarmed if they're a Bell fan.

My eyes told me that Blount looks pretty damn nifty. He's more than just a bruiser.

My gut tells me that Bell owners are going to be more than irritated by Blount's presence this year.

Bell was a no doubt 2nd rounder only a few days ago. He's falling at minimum into the CJ Spiller territory and possibly to the R. Jennings tier.

 

[swirvenirvin]

If anyone actually watched the game last night they should be alarmed if they're a Bell fan.

My eyes told me that Blount looks pretty damn nifty. He's more than just a bruiser.

My gut tells me that Bell owners are going to be more than irritated by Blount's presence this year.

Bell was a no doubt 2nd rounder only a few days ago. He's falling at minimum into the CJ Spiller territory and possibly to the R. Jennings tier.

Yes not sure what everyone is arguing about matters as much as what we saw yesterday in performance, but as I said, I think he is falling to end of 3rd or early 4th ADP now. Looked like they wanted to get Archer involved in passing game too

 

[False Start]

If anyone actually watched the game last night they should be alarmed if they're a Bell fan.

My eyes told me that Blount looks pretty damn nifty. He's more than just a bruiser.

My gut tells me that Bell owners are going to be more than irritated by Blount's presence this year.

Bell was a no doubt 2nd rounder only a few days ago. He's falling at minimum into the CJ Spiller territory and possibly to the R. Jennings tier.

Yes not sure what everyone is arguing about matters as much as what we saw yesterday in performance, but as I said, I think he is falling to end of 3rd or early 4th ADP now. Looked like they wanted to get Archer involved in passing game too

He is falling at minimum? I love the hyperbole because of preseason. It was clear the plan last night with Bell and Blount was rotate drives since they would both be playing the whole game and thats what they did. For those advanced in football, watch the tape back and tell me if the same number of people were in the box when Blount was on the field. Those type of things you cant see in statistics.

Archer is nothing more then a specialty player, its funny on a board of people who know football that some cant see that. He is no threat to carries what so ever, hence the zero he got last night.

I look at this split the same way Cincy will divide their touches.

 

[omally]

He was never arrested or charged with anything.

People should stop saying this. Justice isn't a reflection of reality. No one gives a crap about his legal status as a rapist.

It does reflect reality, and that was her point in explaining why his punishment from the NFL was what it was. You're such a troll on this board.

 

[omally]

He was never arrested or charged with anything.

People should stop saying this. Justice isn't a reflection of reality. No one gives a crap about his legal status as a rapist.

It makes all the difference in the world.

Clearly not! I find it ironic anyone would say this when in society it doesnt matter if a person is convicted or not but just if he was arrested.

OJ didnt get convicted of murder, yet everyone knew he did it. I better see you in the OJ thread from years back claiming he didnt do it.

Whether he was arrested or not did matter as far as his punishment from the NFL, and that is what the point is.

 

[omally]

I don't foresee Bell dropping in my draft.

 

[TheFanatic]

Why couldn;t this happen before they set the prices in the survivor contest!?!

 

[Modog814]

Why couldn;t this happen before they set the prices in the survivor contest!?!

This was my thought exactly!

 

[MoveToSkypager]

He was never arrested or charged with anything.

People should stop saying this. Justice isn't a reflection of reality. No one gives a crap about his legal status as a rapist.

It does reflect reality, and that was her point in explaining why his punishment from the NFL was what it was. You're such a troll on this board.

How many times can you be wrong in a single post?

 

[drfeelgood]

He was never arrested or charged with anything.

People should stop saying this. Justice isn't a reflection of reality. No one gives a crap about his legal status as a rapist.

It does reflect reality, and that was her point in explaining why his punishment from the NFL was what it was. You're such a troll on this board.

How many times can you be wrong in a single post?

I agree with omally 100% on everything he said. I can't stand Big Ben, but simey is correct in why the NFL or the Steelers did not hand down any suspension in reference to the lawsuit filed by the woman in Tahoe.

 

[Chaka]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

 

[JaxBill]

What a moron.

According to the criminal complaint, Bell told the officer at the scene: “I didn’t know you could get a DUI for being high. I smoked two hours ago. I’m not high anymore. I’m perfectly fine. Why would I be getting high if I had to make it to my game?”

The complaint said the officer then asked Bell what game he was referring to. Bell answered, “I have to be on a plane at 3 to be in Philadelphia. I play for Steelers.”

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/get-your-life-order-jerome-bettis-weighs-steelers-/ng7Bz/

 

[swirvenirvin]

If anyone actually watched the game last night they should be alarmed if they're a Bell fan.

My eyes told me that Blount looks pretty damn nifty. He's more than just a bruiser.

My gut tells me that Bell owners are going to be more than irritated by Blount's presence this year.

Bell was a no doubt 2nd rounder only a few days ago. He's falling at minimum into the CJ Spiller territory and possibly to the R. Jennings tier.

Yes not sure what everyone is arguing about matters as much as what we saw yesterday in performance, but as I said, I think he is falling to end of 3rd or early 4th ADP now. Looked like they wanted to get Archer involved in passing game too

He is falling at minimum? I love the hyperbole because of preseason. It was clear the plan last night with Bell and Blount was rotate drives since they would both be playing the whole game and thats what they did. For those advanced in football, watch the tape back and tell me if the same number of people were in the box when Blount was on the field. Those type of things you cant see in statistics.

Archer is nothing more then a specialty player, its funny on a board of people who know football that some cant see that. He is no threat to carries what so ever, hence the zero he got last night.

I look at this split the same way Cincy will divide their touches.

Did anyone say Archer was going to steal carries? I must have missed that?

Also for someone like myself who had it at a 70/30 split I am now at a 65-35 split, that's falling

Thanks though for your advanced football knowlege :hyperbole:

 

[Bayhawks]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

That's true. However, based on what was reported last night (pre-game, during game, and post-game), this gameplan (offensively) wasn't a true indicator of the offense during the season.

From what I heard/read, the Steelers wanted to get looks at Bell, Blount, and Archer, regardless of the success/outcome. Bell was going to get a series, Blount was going to get a series, Archer was going to get specific amount of work. During the season, I'm not sure if that's how they are going to work their RBs: Bell series, Blount series, Archer series.

I don't know if the drug stuff played into it, but both Bell & Blount played longer htan the other offensive starters.

 

[False Start]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

That's true. However, based on what was reported last night (pre-game, during game, and post-game), this gameplan (offensively) wasn't a true indicator of the offense during the season.

From what I heard/read, the Steelers wanted to get looks at Bell, Blount, and Archer, regardless of the success/outcome. Bell was going to get a series, Blount was going to get a series, Archer was going to get specific amount of work. During the season, I'm not sure if that's how they are going to work their RBs: Bell series, Blount series, Archer series.

I don't know if the drug stuff played into it, but both Bell & Blount played longer htan the other offensive starters.

I heard the same thing and thats what led me to say they wanted to rotate series all game.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I better see you in the OJ thread from years back claiming he didnt do it.

Surely you can distinguish between a case going to trial not presenting solid enough evidence to get a conviction vs. not even having enough evidence to file charges to begin with. Then again, I've read some of your posts. Maybe you can't.

 

[Chaka]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

That's true. However, based on what was reported last night (pre-game, during game, and post-game), this gameplan (offensively) wasn't a true indicator of the offense during the season.

From what I heard/read, the Steelers wanted to get looks at Bell, Blount, and Archer, regardless of the success/outcome. Bell was going to get a series, Blount was going to get a series, Archer was going to get specific amount of work. During the season, I'm not sure if that's how they are going to work their RBs: Bell series, Blount series, Archer series.

I don't know if the drug stuff played into it, but both Bell & Blount played longer htan the other offensive starters.

In preseason game 3 "The Dress Rehearsal" do teams generally want to see equal amounts of reps from "unquestioned starters" and "unquestioned backup" or do they give a few series to the unquestioned starters and let everyone else handle mop up duty in order of importance to the team?

Are we going to see this kind of time share with Charles, Forte, Murray, Lacy & Lynch this weekend?

I agree with False Start that Cinci is probably a pretty good comp for Pitt right now.

 

[False Start]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

That's true. However, based on what was reported last night (pre-game, during game, and post-game), this gameplan (offensively) wasn't a true indicator of the offense during the season.

From what I heard/read, the Steelers wanted to get looks at Bell, Blount, and Archer, regardless of the success/outcome. Bell was going to get a series, Blount was going to get a series, Archer was going to get specific amount of work. During the season, I'm not sure if that's how they are going to work their RBs: Bell series, Blount series, Archer series.

I don't know if the drug stuff played into it, but both Bell & Blount played longer htan the other offensive starters.

In preseason game 3 "The Dress Rehearsal" do teams generally want to see equal amounts of reps from "unquestioned starters" and "unquestioned backup" or do they give a few series to the unquestioned starters and let everyone else handle mop up duty in order of importance to the team?

Are we going to see this kind of time share with Charles, Forte, Murray, Lacy & Lynch this weekend?

I agree with False Start that Cinci is probably the best comp for Pitt right now.

Depends, did they have a plan and did things change because of the arrests.

No, but no one is comparing Bell to those, at least from what I read.

No one doubts Blount will get his share of carries, but the panic is crazy.

 

[TheFanatic]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

Are you seriously thinking that this ratio will continue into the regular season because it happened in a preseason game? And I bet you believe that every team had a great draft because the coach said so an hour after the draft?

 

[False Start]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

Are you seriously thinking that this ratio will continue into the regular season because it happened in a preseason game? And I bet you believe that every team had a great draft because the coach said so an hour after the draft?

Some people take more weight in meaningless games then others I guess.

 

[Franknbeans]

Back to the topic at hand...

I am seriously considering not protecting Bell. I do think Blount will get more of the workload than I would prefer from my keeper back. However, I still think Bell gets much more of the receiving pie. The bummer as a fan in all of this is the focus gets taken away from the team and football. If I were Tomlin, that would piss me off more than anything else. The team certainly played like they were distracted and not as focused as they should be. I know it's only pre-season but the disturbing thing is the pattern that Tomlin's team is establishing.

 

[Chaka]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

Are you seriously thinking that this ratio will continue into the regular season because it happened in a preseason game? And I bet you believe that every team had a great draft because the coach said so an hour after the draft?

Some people take more weight in meaningless games then others I guess.

You can infer what you want but I think the bolded/italicized/underlined part of my post pretty says what I think very clearly and in no uncertain terms. And I hate to be snarky, because it stifles intelligent debate, but the flaw appears to be with the fact that you both chose to stop reading my post a bit too early.

ETA: I am guessing that you (False Start) also missed my post where I agreed with you that Cinci looks like the best comp for Pitt right now.

 

[Kenny Powers]

From post-game interview with Tomlin

What is your reaction to Le’Veon Bell andLeGarrette Blount reports and why play either of them tonight?I have no reaction other than the statement that we released. We are aware of it obviously. That conduct is detrimental to our efforts. They’ll be dealt with appropriately. From my perspective, in terms of their participation tonight, I didn’t view it as punishment to send them home to be quite honest with you, to not play in this preseason game. I would rather them play more than anticipated than to remove them from the game. That’s why we took the stance that we took tonight. We have some things to do regarding the matter moving forward, but not a lot to say regarding it at this point and time.

You can probably have a few different takeaways from his comments, but to me, since this was a preseason game and his plans changed regarding how long Bell would be in the game, Blount got a great share of work than he would in a regular season game because there was no need for Bell to get 15+ touches in a "meaningless" game.

Its pretty clear Blount will have a role on the offense but I wouldnt be significantly downgrading Bell or upgrading Blount based on last night.

 

[False Start]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

Are you seriously thinking that this ratio will continue into the regular season because it happened in a preseason game? And I bet you believe that every team had a great draft because the coach said so an hour after the draft?

Some people take more weight in meaningless games then others I guess.

You can infer what you want but I think the bolded/italicized/underlined part of my post pretty says what I think very clearly and in no uncertain terms. And I hate to be snarky, because it stifles intelligent debate, but the flaw appears to be with the fact that you both chose to stop reading my post a bit too early.

ETA: I am guessing that you (False Start) also missed my post where I agreed with you that Cinci looks like the best comp for Pitt right now.

Nope, I noticed that. I even responded.

I wasnt necessarily talking about you, you know. Do some not put more weight in preseason games then they should?

 

[Chaka]

I guess the perceived level of panic all depends on where you had Bell ranked to begin with.

Right now I have him as RB#12 behind Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Ball, Murray, Bernard, Foster, Morris, Bell but the last four are highly fungible and which one I draft (if given the opportunity) will definitely change depending on my mood, and alcohol level, on draft day.

 

[TheFanatic]

On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?

Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.

Are you seriously thinking that this ratio will continue into the regular season because it happened in a preseason game? And I bet you believe that every team had a great draft because the coach said so an hour after the draft?

Some people take more weight in meaningless games then others I guess.

Could this be the exact ration they use in the regular season? Maybe. But just maybe, Blount needs more practice in the new scheme to make sure he has the terminology down and makes the right play. Bell, having been in this system for a full year already, doesn't need as much real speed practice as a guy like Blount.

Am I to assume that defenses will blitz the exact same amount of time in the regular season as the preseason? Or that offenses will use the exact same ration of regular plays to gadget/trick plays as they do in the preseason? Bell getting less work than what people think he should get in a practice game may just mean that Bell looked good enough to the coaches and they wanted to see what the new guy could do.

This is clearly a buy, buy, buy situation here folks. Those that panic and dump Bell are going to regret it.

 

[TheFanatic]

I guess the perceived level of panic all depends on where you had Bell ranked to begin with.

Right now I have him as RB#12 behind Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Ball, Murray, Bernard, Foster, Morris, Bell but the last four are highly fungible and which one I draft (if given the opportunity) will definitely change depending on my mood, and alcohol level, on draft day.

Bernard scored less points than Bell did last year and played in all 16 games. Bell missed the first two. And you expect Bernard to outperform him? I find that strange.

ETA, in a non PPR.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

This is looking like it has sophomore slump written all over it. Not to mention his on the field situation is looking dicier to me. I'm staying away.

 

[Chaka]

I guess the perceived level of panic all depends on where you had Bell ranked to begin with.

Right now I have him as RB#12 behind Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Ball, Murray, Bernard, Foster, Morris, Bell but the last four are highly fungible and which one I draft (if given the opportunity) will definitely change depending on my mood, and alcohol level, on draft day.

Bernard scored less points than Bell did last year and played in all 16 games. Bell missed the first two. And you expect Bernard to outperform him? I find that strange.

ETA, in a non PPR.

As I said I have them all very close in that tier and who I might draft will likely depend on my mood. However Bell had 289 touches last year for 1,259 yards and 8 TDs and Bernard had 226 touches for 1,209 yards and 8 TDs. Not sure how many fewer points that equates to in your leagues but it ain't much.

Personally I think Bernard will see more touches (maybe 10-20% bump) and at best Bell will remain about the same (I think he is more likely to drop by maybe 10% from his actual total not his prorated total, no way I see him anywhere near 384 touches), plus I think Hue Jackson >>> Todd Haley in the run game so right now I find it strange that you think Bell will outperform Bernard.

 

[ponchsox]

I got him at 3.8 in a 12 teamer tonight as my RB2 and I'm freaking stoked. When people get spooked the sharks attack.

 

[kyoun1e]

I got him at 3.8 in a 12 teamer tonight as my RB2 and I'm freaking stoked. When people get spooked the sharks attack.

That's exactly where he belongs now.

 

[Reegus]

I got him at 3.8 in a 12 teamer tonight as my RB2 and I'm freaking stoked. When people get spooked the sharks attack.

That's exactly where he belongs now.

No late second early third

 

[cstu]

Is it just me or does Bell look like Dez Bryant playing RB?

 

[False Start]

I got him at 3.8 in a 12 teamer tonight as my RB2 and I'm freaking stoked. When people get spooked the sharks attack.

That's exactly where he belongs now.

No late second early third

Amazing how this guy has fallen.

I got him in the 6th round of a TD heavy league and as my RB3, people are really worried about the pot and Blount.

On a side note:

Dale Lolley ‏@dlolleyor 1m

It amazes me how people don't understand that #Steelers can't just suspend Bell and Blount. CBA doesn't allow it

 

[Bronco Billy]

Is it just me or does Bell look like Dez Bryant playing RB?

It's just you.

 

[TheFanatic]

I guess the perceived level of panic all depends on where you had Bell ranked to begin with.

Right now I have him as RB#12 behind Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Ball, Murray, Bernard, Foster, Morris, Bell but the last four are highly fungible and which one I draft (if given the opportunity) will definitely change depending on my mood, and alcohol level, on draft day.

Bernard scored less points than Bell did last year and played in all 16 games. Bell missed the first two. And you expect Bernard to outperform him? I find that strange.

ETA, in a non PPR.

As I said I have them all very close in that tier and who I might draft will likely depend on my mood. However Bell had 289 touches last year for 1,259 yards and 8 TDs and Bernard had 226 touches for 1,209 yards and 8 TDs. Not sure how many fewer points that equates to in your leagues but it ain't much.

Personally I think Bernard will see more touches (maybe 10-20% bump) and at best Bell will remain about the same (I think he is more likely to drop by maybe 10% from his actual total not his prorated total, no way I see him anywhere near 384 touches), plus I think Hue Jackson >>> Todd Haley in the run game so right now I find it strange that you think Bell will outperform Bernard.

I think there's a lot of competition for touches in Cinci.

 

[Bayhawks]

Dale Lolley ‏@dlolleyor 1m

It amazes me how people don't understand that #Steelers can't just suspend Bell and Blount. CBA doesn't allow it

The CBA won't allow them to be suspended by the Steelers for something that the NFL will likely also discipline them for. However, Bell could easily be suspended for missing the team charter (because he had been arrested).

The Steelers won't, but they could.

 

[Chaka]

I guess the perceived level of panic all depends on where you had Bell ranked to begin with.

Right now I have him as RB#12 behind Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Ball, Murray, Bernard, Foster, Morris, Bell but the last four are highly fungible and which one I draft (if given the opportunity) will definitely change depending on my mood, and alcohol level, on draft day.

Bernard scored less points than Bell did last year and played in all 16 games. Bell missed the first two. And you expect Bernard to outperform him? I find that strange.

ETA, in a non PPR.

As I said I have them all very close in that tier and who I might draft will likely depend on my mood. However Bell had 289 touches last year for 1,259 yards and 8 TDs and Bernard had 226 touches for 1,209 yards and 8 TDs. Not sure how many fewer points that equates to in your leagues but it ain't much.

Personally I think Bernard will see more touches (maybe 10-20% bump) and at best Bell will remain about the same (I think he is more likely to drop by maybe 10% from his actual total not his prorated total, no way I see him anywhere near 384 touches), plus I think Hue Jackson >>> Todd Haley in the run game so right now I find it strange that you think Bell will outperform Bernard.

I think there's a lot of competition for touches in Cinci.

"A lot"? No I don't see that at all. There is Bernard and whoever is going to handle the 'big back' role. But I don't see both Hill and BJGE eating into Bernard's carries so much as eating into each others. But I definitely think the shift will be to put Bernard into the lead role and get maybe 50-60% of the RB touches.

You can also expect Cinci to run more this year with Hue Jackson as the OC and could push 500 rushing attempts. Throw in another 50 receptions and that looks like a lot of touches for Bernard to me.

His principle drawback is that he will not be the goal line guy.

 

[ponchsox]

I guess the perceived level of panic all depends on where you had Bell ranked to begin with.

Right now I have him as RB#12 behind Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Ball, Murray, Bernard, Foster, Morris, Bell but the last four are highly fungible and which one I draft (if given the opportunity) will definitely change depending on my mood, and alcohol level, on draft day.

Bernard scored less points than Bell did last year and played in all 16 games. Bell missed the first two. And you expect Bernard to outperform him? I find that strange.

ETA, in a non PPR.

As I said I have them all very close in that tier and who I might draft will likely depend on my mood. However Bell had 289 touches last year for 1,259 yards and 8 TDs and Bernard had 226 touches for 1,209 yards and 8 TDs. Not sure how many fewer points that equates to in your leagues but it ain't much.

Personally I think Bernard will see more touches (maybe 10-20% bump) and at best Bell will remain about the same (I think he is more likely to drop by maybe 10% from his actual total not his prorated total, no way I see him anywhere near 384 touches), plus I think Hue Jackson >>> Todd Haley in the run game so right now I find it strange that you think Bell will outperform Bernard.

I think there's a lot of competition for touches in Cinci.

"A lot"? No I don't see that at all. There is Bernard and whoever is going to handle the 'big back' role. But I don't see both Hill and BJGE eating into Bernard's carries so much as eating into each others. But I definitely think the shift will be to put Bernard into the lead role and get maybe 50-60% of the RB touches.

You can also expect Cinci to run more this year with Hue Jackson as the OC and could push 500 rushing attempts. Throw in another 50 receptions and that looks like a lot of touches for Bernard to me.

His principle drawback is that he will not be the goal line guy.

Lets keep this on the topic of Bell.

 

[cvnpoka]

The Steelers seem to be using Bell far more than Blount. Blount had one snap on the opening drive while Bell had the rest.

Have to see how other drives pan out. I expect Blount to get a snap and his own drive here and there but Bell is the main guy if this dress rehearsal means anything.

After that first drive I have seen a whole lot of anything but Bell. Including Blount catching a pass.

Completely laying off Bell now. Have as a keeper in the late 3rd round and will be looking at other options as I see little to no value there.

bell has dropped like a rock. i just got him with the last pick in a 12 team ppr ffpc draft. this guy was going late first to mid 2nd for months. now he goes nearly in the 4th? seems a massive overreaction.

 

[ponchsox]

The Steelers seem to be using Bell far more than Blount. Blount had one snap on the opening drive while Bell had the rest.

Have to see how other drives pan out. I expect Blount to get a snap and his own drive here and there but Bell is the main guy if this dress rehearsal means anything.

After that first drive I have seen a whole lot of anything but Bell. Including Blount catching a pass. Completely laying off Bell now. Have as a keeper in the late 3rd round and will be looking at other options as I see little to no value there.

bell has dropped like a rock. i just got him with the last pick in a 12 team ppr ffpc draft. this guy was going late first to mid 2nd for months. now he goes nearly in the 4th? seems a massive overreaction.

Agreed. A few weeks ago he was on top of the second tier RBs. Now all of the sudden he's a stiff? I'll take him as my RB2 and win my league.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Bell is a stud, draft him. I expect a very solid season from Bell despite the poor decision making off the field and Blount being in the mix.

 

[cvnpoka]

it def gives me pause when he drops in the high stakes leagues but i thought he was massively overvalued prior and figured blount would take more touches than realized. now, hes a 300 touch back that can catch and is good in short yardage. its certainly scary that blount may vulture but he has always been a stiff at the goal line as harstad showed.

fwiw, doug martin went 1 pick prior and i woulda preferred martin who also seems massively undervalued. both of those guys should outscore ellington and gio who are going a bit earlier.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Dale Lolley ‏@dlolleyor 1m

It amazes me how people don't understand that #Steelers can't just suspend Bell and Blount. CBA doesn't allow it

The CBA won't allow them to be suspended by the Steelers for something that the NFL will likely also discipline them for. However, Bell could easily be suspended for missing the team charter (because he had been arrested).

The Steelers won't, but they could.

jets just suspended that CB that went missing

I think Pitt could suspend Bell if they want to, the CBA does not prevent it

However they need him to win football games

 

[Kenny Powers]

it def gives me pause when he drops in the high stakes leagues but i thought he was massively overvalued prior and figured blount would take more touches than realized. now, hes a 300 touch back that can catch and is good in short yardage. its certainly scary that blount may vulture but he has always been a stiff at the goal line as harstad showed.

fwiw, doug martin went 1 pick prior and i woulda preferred martin who also seems massively undervalued. both of those guys should outscore ellington and gio who are going a bit earlier.

IMO, I'd rephrase that and say Bell/Martin could outscore Gio and Ellington, not should. Theyre all same ballpark. Gun to my head without looking at my own or others projections Id say Gio-Bell-Ellington-Martin is the right order.

 

[3C's]

http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog/2014/08/27/Steelers-Can-t-Suspend-Bell/stories/201408270001

 

[False Start]

The Steelers seem to be using Bell far more than Blount. Blount had one snap on the opening drive while Bell had the rest.

Have to see how other drives pan out. I expect Blount to get a snap and his own drive here and there but Bell is the main guy if this dress rehearsal means anything.

After that first drive I have seen a whole lot of anything but Bell. Including Blount catching a pass.

Completely laying off Bell now. Have as a keeper in the late 3rd round and will be looking at other options as I see little to no value there.

bell has dropped like a rock. i just got him with the last pick in a 12 team ppr ffpc draft. this guy was going late first to mid 2nd for months. now he goes nearly in the 4th? seems a massive overreaction.

The panic is amazing. Even if he is suspended by the league it would only be for a short time and that is not happening until the case is resolved for a first time offender.

The place where he is falling in drafts has the Blount splits irrelevant now because he has fell so low its almost criminal to get a 60% carry back at the low percentile where some were predicting in this thread in the 5th and 6th round.

The weed pop and the reaction has the people who do not under stand the process dropping him off their draft board all together.

 

[False Start]

http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog/2014/08/27/Steelers-Can-t-Suspend-Bell/stories/201408270001

Does anyone still think they will get suspended now after Tomlin and more educated people on the CBA shared their thoughts on this?

For those who got Bell late, kudos for having the ability to know what others didnt. That's what it is all about, being a step ahead of your league mates.

 

[Bayhawks]

Dale Lolley ‏@dlolleyor 1m

It amazes me how people don't understand that #Steelers can't just suspend Bell and Blount. CBA doesn't allow it

The CBA won't allow them to be suspended by the Steelers for something that the NFL will likely also discipline them for. However, Bell could easily be suspended for missing the team charter (because he had been arrested).

The Steelers won't, but they could.

jets just suspended that CB that went missing

I think Pitt could suspend Bell if they want to, the CBA does not prevent it

However they need him to win football games

Yeah, that's what I said. They COULD suspend him for missing the team charter (not for the drug stuff, b/c the league will likely handle that, and he can't be punished twice for the same thing, violates CBA), but they won't, IMO.