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RB Le'Veon Bell, FA (5 Viewers)

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA......... :mellow:
Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?
im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up
He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.
To bad he cannot catch. This goes against their no huddle plans and makes them one dimensional. Blount is not a threat.
At the moment I absolutely agree. Bell will have all the opportunity to prove he can handle the load.

 
Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA......... :mellow:
Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?
im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up
He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.
To bad he cannot catch. This goes against their no huddle plans and makes them one dimensional. Blount is not a threat.
At the moment I absolutely agree. Bell will have all the opportunity to prove he can handle the load.
Blount is a capable backup with a good nose for short yardage. He may grab 2-3 short TDs but I don't see a huge threat here. Blount is insurance for one of the better young backs in the league

 
As a bell owner I didn't bother to handcuff with Blount. I have zero concern about Blount. Bell will be a steal based on the over analytical nervous nellies driving his price down.

 
IIRC, Tomlin is not a huge committee guy and in fact, seems to lean the opposite direction. Even Fast Willie Parker was a workhorse.

 
As a bell owner I didn't bother to handcuff with Blount. I have zero concern about Blount. Bell will be a steal based on the over analytical nervous nellies driving his price down.
I did handcuff - but not because I see Blount as a threat to steal carries. More from the standpoint of the fact that if Bell does get dinged, Blount is young and talented enough to shoulder the load himself. In other words, if Bell does go down due to injury, I think Blount simply becomes Bell with a little more power and a little less in terms of pass catching - I don't think the Steelers go RBBC - with Bell or without him.

 
Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA......... :mellow:
Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?
im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up
He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.

Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.
Fred Jackson ran the ball better than Spiller in the NFL. Point?
I'll go with "Fred Jackson gets no respect"
I have to agree. But right now, so is Bell.

 
Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA......... :mellow:
Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?
im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up
He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.
To bad he cannot catch. This goes against their no huddle plans and makes them one dimensional. Blount is not a threat.
At the moment I absolutely agree. Bell will have all the opportunity to prove he can handle the load.
Blount is a capable backup with a good nose for short yardage. He may grab 2-3 short TDs but I don't see a huge threat here. Blount is insurance for one of the better young backs in the league
No, he's not. It's been posted in this thread, I think, but Blount is an average (at best) SY runner. He had success last year in NE, behind a very good O-line, but prior to that, with TB's less excellent O-line, he was bad. Pittsburgh's O-line will probably be closer to the TB version than the NE version.

 
Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA......... :mellow:
Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?
im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up
He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.

Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.
Fred Jackson ran the ball better than Spiller in the NFL. Point?
I'll go with "Fred Jackson gets no respect"
I have to agree. But right now, so is Bell.
Fred has earned it, we'll see about Bell but he's going to get every chance to earn it so we should know soon.

 
Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.
How are the Blount fans feeling now?
Not a fan of either RB, but what has changed that would make the situation different than it was last week?

 
Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.
How are the Blount fans feeling now?
Not a fan of either RB, but what has changed that would make the situation different than it was last week?
The fact that the coach speak is a little different.

 
Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.
How are the Blount fans feeling now?
Not a fan of either RB, but what has changed that would make the situation different than it was last week?
The fact that the coach speak is a little different.
That's what you base your assessments on?

 
Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.
How are the Blount fans feeling now?
Not a fan of either RB, but what has changed that would make the situation different than it was last week?
The fact that the coach speak is a little different.
That's what you base your assessments on?
When it is something worthy. If you dont like either one, why you here trolling?

 
False Start said:
Bronco Billy said:
False Start said:
Bronco Billy said:
False Start said:
Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.
How are the Blount fans feeling now?
Not a fan of either RB, but what has changed that would make the situation different than it was last week?
The fact that the coach speak is a little different.
That's what you base your assessments on?
When it is something worthy. If you dont like either one, why you here trolling?
Is that what you call discussion that doesn't agree with your viewpoint? And coach speak is worthy as long as it supports your position.

That explains a lot across multiple threads. Have a great day.

 
Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint.
Let's see how they both look behind the Pittsburgh line first. New England and Tampa both had good run blocking o-lines. Pittsburgh's was miserable last season. You may be right, Blount is a solid power runner, but I'm not sure he's better than Bell based on last season.

 
Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint.
Let's see how they both look behind the Pittsburgh line first. New England and Tampa both had good run blocking o-lines. Pittsburgh's was miserable last season. You may be right, Blount is a solid power runner, but I'm not sure he's better than Bell based on last season.
Fair enough.

 
Big Ben has limited weapons in the passing game outside of Brown and Miller. Wheaton isn't ready. Back to Steelers smash mouth football this year on the ground.

 
Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.
Care to make any projections? How do you see the carries being split (%) ? Assuming they both stay healthy how many touches do you see Bell and Blount getting?

 
Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.
Care to make any projections? How do you see the carries being split (%) ? Assuming they both stay healthy how many touches do you see Bell and Blount getting?
Thought I did that a few pages agoETA : here it is

I'm downgrading Bell a little bit and upgrading Blount after this news. Until now, I assumed Bell had this show all to himself for an easy bet at 300 carries. I doubt Blount splits as much as 50/50, but even 6-8 carries a game will significantly eat into the starter's workload.
I just signed up and feel this is a great post for my first comment. Dont you think that is a bit of an over reaction? Just because of coach speak you are going adjust rankings dramatically and let it effect where u take bell because he may get 290 touches instead of 310? Whats that mean you may end up taking Martin, Murray or Stacy likes instead? Seems like Bell would be the best still in that tier since most teams run two backs and those have their own backup issues. Lets not forget Blount isnt a special player while Bell is.
What makes Bell special? His 3.5 ypc last year?The top 3 RBs in PIT accumulated 341, 317, and 369 carries the past 3 seasons. Let's put the average at 342 and then let's be optimistic and bump that up by say 5% to 360. Then let's say that the top 2 RBs get 90% of that work - that's 324 carries between Bell and Blount.

If Blount gets even 7 carries per game, that's 112 carries, leaving 212 for Bell. Even if Bell is 10% more productive on the ground than last year, that's just over 800 yds rushing - and that's being optimistic.

So yeah, it does make a difference. Blount is a guy with a career 4.7 ypc and in his worst year was still 0.2 ypc better than Bell's ypc last year - and that's for a RB who does almost nothing to make the D respect a threat from him in the passing game. He's hit 5.0 ypc twice in his career, both with over 150 carries.

You think PIT won't use Blount to run the football part time if he proves to be more effective on the ground than the plodding Bell?
 
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And of course he had the 1Q TD taken away from him too. Looking beast-like. If he's used like this Blount becomes an asset to him as a 16 game season is more possible

 
Nobody should be surprised, that's for sure. The fixation by the ignorants on the ypc as a very young rookie behind a terrible line was the difference between a guppy and a shark. ;)

 
Wow awesome day. Went TE/WR in my draft and he was the best of what as left in the 3rd. Didnt know what I was getting but this works.

 
On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?
Sure thing.

Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.
Bell: 21 carries for 109 yards and a TD, and 6 catches for 88 yards on 8 targets.

Blount: 4 carries for 6 yards and a vulture TD and 0 catches on 1 target.

How is that yards per carry going when it counts?

Oh, and how about that NFL experience for Blount, remember he has done it in the NFL before.

Talk more about how I dont know and I will say you are right it wont be 70/30, it will be more like 85/15.

 
The Steelers seem to be using Bell far more than Blount. Blount had one snap on the opening drive while Bell had the rest.

Have to see how other drives pan out. I expect Blount to get a snap and his own drive here and there but Bell is the main guy if this dress rehearsal means anything.
After that first drive I have seen a whole lot of anything but Bell. Including Blount catching a pass.

Completely laying off Bell now. Have as a keeper in the late 3rd round and will be looking at other options as I see little to no value there.
How is that working for you?

 
Cheesedawg said:
Nobody should be surprised, that's for sure. The fixation by the ignorants on the ypc as a very young rookie behind a terrible line was the difference between a guppy and a shark. ;)
This is the painful truth. Feel like a lot of low level fantasy players were over analyzing this bell Blount thing. The shark dudes see tunnel vision and in all honesty it was pretty clear.PIT wanted an up tempo O and bell fits that in all aspects. Too many dudes here trust twitter "experts" and can't make a decisive call themselves.

Bell is a number one and maybe top 5 in PPR. Yes it's true.

 
False Start said:
On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?
Sure thing.Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.
Bell: 21 carries for 109 yards and a TD, and 6 catches for 88 yards on 8 targets.

Blount: 4 carries for 6 yards and a vulture TD and 0 catches on 1 target.

How is that yards per carry going when it counts?

Oh, and how about that NFL experience for Blount, remember he has done it in the NFL before.

Talk more about how I dont know and I will say you are right it wont be 70/30, it will be more like 85/15.
Dude looked like a player today, no doubt about it. And the way he was used should dispel any concerns about Blount. But slow your roll just a tad they don't play Cleveland at home every week.

And you are a very special little flower that everyone admires, so congratulations on winning the week one championship.

 
Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.
Care to make any projections? How do you see the carries being split (%) ? Assuming they both stay healthy how many touches do you see Bell and Blount getting?
Thought I did that a few pages agoETA : here it is

I'm downgrading Bell a little bit and upgrading Blount after this news. Until now, I assumed Bell had this show all to himself for an easy bet at 300 carries. I doubt Blount splits as much as 50/50, but even 6-8 carries a game will significantly eat into the starter's workload.
I just signed up and feel this is a great post for my first comment. Dont you think that is a bit of an over reaction? Just because of coach speak you are going adjust rankings dramatically and let it effect where u take bell because he may get 290 touches instead of 310? Whats that mean you may end up taking Martin, Murray or Stacy likes instead? Seems like Bell would be the best still in that tier since most teams run two backs and those have their own backup issues. Lets not forget Blount isnt a special player while Bell is.
What makes Bell special? His 3.5 ypc last year?The top 3 RBs in PIT accumulated 341, 317, and 369 carries the past 3 seasons. Let's put the average at 342 and then let's be optimistic and bump that up by say 5% to 360. Then let's say that the top 2 RBs get 90% of that work - that's 324 carries between Bell and Blount.

If Blount gets even 7 carries per game, that's 112 carries, leaving 212 for Bell. Even if Bell is 10% more productive on the ground than last year, that's just over 800 yds rushing - and that's being optimistic.

So yeah, it does make a difference. Blount is a guy with a career 4.7 ypc and in his worst year was still 0.2 ypc better than Bell's ypc last year - and that's for a RB who does almost nothing to make the D respect a threat from him in the passing game. He's hit 5.0 ypc twice in his career, both with over 150 carries.

You think PIT won't use Blount to run the football part time if he proves to be more effective on the ground than the plodding Bell?
Care to amend this?

 
Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.
Care to make any projections? How do you see the carries being split (%) ? Assuming they both stay healthy how many touches do you see Bell and Blount getting?
Thought I did that a few pages agoETA : here it is

I'm downgrading Bell a little bit and upgrading Blount after this news. Until now, I assumed Bell had this show all to himself for an easy bet at 300 carries. I doubt Blount splits as much as 50/50, but even 6-8 carries a game will significantly eat into the starter's workload.
I just signed up and feel this is a great post for my first comment. Dont you think that is a bit of an over reaction? Just because of coach speak you are going adjust rankings dramatically and let it effect where u take bell because he may get 290 touches instead of 310? Whats that mean you may end up taking Martin, Murray or Stacy likes instead? Seems like Bell would be the best still in that tier since most teams run two backs and those have their own backup issues. Lets not forget Blount isnt a special player while Bell is.
What makes Bell special? His 3.5 ypc last year?The top 3 RBs in PIT accumulated 341, 317, and 369 carries the past 3 seasons. Let's put the average at 342 and then let's be optimistic and bump that up by say 5% to 360. Then let's say that the top 2 RBs get 90% of that work - that's 324 carries between Bell and Blount.

If Blount gets even 7 carries per game, that's 112 carries, leaving 212 for Bell. Even if Bell is 10% more productive on the ground than last year, that's just over 800 yds rushing - and that's being optimistic.

So yeah, it does make a difference. Blount is a guy with a career 4.7 ypc and in his worst year was still 0.2 ypc better than Bell's ypc last year - and that's for a RB who does almost nothing to make the D respect a threat from him in the passing game. He's hit 5.0 ypc twice in his career, both with over 150 carries.

You think PIT won't use Blount to run the football part time if he proves to be more effective on the ground than the plodding Bell?
Care to amend this?
Sure. Bell ought to be the #1 FF RB this season and owners ought to give up their WR1, QB1, and TE1 to acquire him immediately.

Is that what you want to hear? Bell looked great yesterday, no question. Maybe he's turned a corner. But I've played FF long enough to know better than to judge a player on his week 1 performance in the face of other existing evidence.

So I'll eat some crow week 1. I hope that satiates your need to hear it. But I'll reserve some judgment to see if he can keep it up. And if he does, I'll own the rest of it too.

 
False Start said:
On another note, can this thread get back to Bell?
Sure thing.Bell: 9 carries for 23 yards and 1 reception for 3 yards

Blount: 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 receptions for 14 yards

You can talk all you want about what the plan, that you don't really know, was all about last night, but on the field this looks much closer to a 60:40 time share than a 70:30.
Bell: 21 carries for 109 yards and a TD, and 6 catches for 88 yards on 8 targets.

Blount: 4 carries for 6 yards and a vulture TD and 0 catches on 1 target.

How is that yards per carry going when it counts?

Oh, and how about that NFL experience for Blount, remember he has done it in the NFL before.

Talk more about how I dont know and I will say you are right it wont be 70/30, it will be more like 85/15.
Dude looked like a player today, no doubt about it. And the way he was used should dispel any concerns about Blount.But slow your roll just a tad they don't play Cleveland at home every week.

And you are a very special little flower that everyone admires, so congratulations on winning the week one championship.
Cleveland run D is middle of the road. He has some tough matchups early this year but then it gets better. Plus he gets 22nd ranked KC and 31st ranked ATL in the FF playoffs.

 
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Is it just me or does Bell look like Dez Bryant playing RB?
It's just you.
6-1 3/8, 225

It's not a bad thing but he looks like a big 6-1, 6-2 WR (Dez, Boldin) now that he's lost weight. He's much different than a typical RB and does a lot of dancing in the backfield but it works for him.

He's very quick now and making big plays running and receiving.
He looked good last night and Blount isn't taking near the workload I thought he would. Let's see if it continues.

 
As long as he is breaking tackles and making defenders miss like he is right now there is no reason why it won't continue. If the Steelers get behind a lot this year he will not come off the field either. Looks like Blount is just there to give Bell a breather here and there and probably some GL work.

We could be looking at a top 5 dynasty RB in FF for the next 3-4 years. Maybe top 10 dynasty asset overall moving forward.

 
As long as he is breaking tackles and making defenders miss like he is right now there is no reason why it won't continue. If the Steelers get behind a lot this year he will not come off the field either. Looks like Blount is just there to give Bell a breather here and there and probably some GL work.

We could be looking at a top 5 dynasty RB in FF for the next 3-4 years. Maybe top 10 dynasty asset overall moving forward.
I had him as my dynasty RB3 before the season (15th overall- my overall rankings are very WR-heavy). I am almost certainly moving him up to RB2 for next week's update (jumping Charles, but still behind McCoy). I don't know if I'm going to wind up putting him in my top 10 overall ahead of the likes of Alshon Jeffery and Percy Harvin. Could see that one ending up going either way.

 
Gotta say that he looked very good again last night. He made people miss in tight spaces, showed speed to get outside and punished people at the end of runs.

 
Chaka said:
Gotta say that he looked very good again last night. He made people miss in tight spaces, showed speed to get outside and punished people at the end of runs.
And is a beast in all facets of the pass game. Looks like a Witten-type coming out of the backfield.

 
Chaka said:
Gotta say that he looked very good again last night. He made people miss in tight spaces, showed speed to get outside and punished people at the end of runs.
And is a beast in all facets of the pass game. Looks like a Witten-type coming out of the backfield.
Is it Witten or Dez Bryant?

You people need to make up your minds.

 

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