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RB Le'Veon Bell, FA (4 Viewers)

This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
#3 RB in my ppr league, shrug

TDs are too random

 
The complete lack of TDs since week 1 is an issue - and while TDs are at times random, they are not 100% so. Depends on the team, their line, their playcalling. LT2's TDs weren't "random" - they were early and often. A point of emphasis of the offense.

Part of the issue is that Bell does not seem to attach the hole, but rather look to make a quick cut and go... great for potentially long runs, not so great for 1-2 years when the defense is raring to stop the run.

 
He is Tiki Barber once Brandon Jacobs came to the Giants. He is going probably 2000 total yards a season, but have between 5 and 8 touchdowns.
He's got 1 after 6 games ... he's on pace for 2 or 3 for the season.

I'd be thrilled for 5-8 tds but right now he's just a little better than useless ... maybe Kendall Wright from last year

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
#3 RB in my ppr league, shrug

TDs are too random
Dont get me started about PPR ... that's a perfect example of why they suck

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
#3 RB in my ppr league, shrug

TDs are too random
Dont get me started about PPR ... that's a perfect example of why they suck
I'd suggest just the opposite.

 
It seems inevitable that Pittsburgh will notice both their unwillingness to run inside the 10 and their lack of success inside the 10 and finally put two and two together.

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
Do you not get points for his receiving yards in your league? In my non-ppr league he's still the #7 RB.

25.7 (excellent)
10.7 (good)
15.7 (very good)
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11.8[SIZE=13.63636302948px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px](good)[/SIZE]
10.5[SIZE=13.63636302948px] [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px](good)[/SIZE]

average 14.2 ppg

Sure I wish he had some TDs to go with it, but he's still doing great. Very Matt Forte-like.
 
People complaining about him clearly don't understand what they lucked into and haven't had to deal with Lacy, AD, McCoy and a litany of other backs who have slumped of can't stay healthy. At least this guy continues to put himself in a position to succeed. Blame Todd Haley for the rest.

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
Bell has been quite consistent, so you need to get a clue....TD's will come

 
qimqam said:
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
What kind of scoring does your league use? Because those numbers don't make sense with any "normal" scoring rules.

He has 25.7, 10.7, 15.7, 10.9, 11.8, 10.5 for me. Standard scoring, non-PPR. #5 RB. He has had 2 TDs vultured by Blount, but the Pitt offense hasn't been scoring many TDs in the red zone. IF they can figure that out, Bell will start to get some TDs.

 
qimqam said:
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
:lmao:
 
They had the ball on the 1 yard line and what do they do? They pass then get a 15 yard penalty on the play. All coaches try to outsmart themselves with decisions like this, its why I never feel bad for any coach who gets fired. They make bad decisions all the time like they are trying to trick people. The same thing I complain about with Brady never throwing on the one, its all the Steelers do at the one. Teams have to find the happy medium. I am not a Steelers fan but if I was, my anger would be with Haley as he is the reason the offense wont click. That or Big Bens ego of having to be a hero is through the roof and always calling run plays at the 1.

 
qimqam said:
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
Out of all the major RB busts this year, I can't believe there is someone that has the cajones to complain about Bell.

 
They had the ball on the 1 yard line and what do they do? They pass then get a 15 yard penalty on the play. All coaches try to outsmart themselves with decisions like this, its why I never feel bad for any coach who gets fired. They make bad decisions all the time like they are trying to trick people. The same thing I complain about with Brady never throwing on the one, its all the Steelers do at the one. Teams have to find the happy medium. I am not a Steelers fan but if I was, my anger would be with Haley as he is the reason the offense wont click. That or Big Bens ego of having to be a hero is through the roof and always calling run plays at the 1.
ben was complete garbage yesterday missing wide open receivers routinely. when he was actually making a proper pass, moore and wheaton were making idiotic drops or effing up routes. not sure that haley was much of a problem. or maybe its his fault they cant execute the offense. i dunno, i thought it would be a shootout and had big roeth in my lineups and it cost me.

 
They had the ball on the 1 yard line and what do they do? They pass then get a 15 yard penalty on the play. All coaches try to outsmart themselves with decisions like this, its why I never feel bad for any coach who gets fired. They make bad decisions all the time like they are trying to trick people. The same thing I complain about with Brady never throwing on the one, its all the Steelers do at the one. Teams have to find the happy medium. I am not a Steelers fan but if I was, my anger would be with Haley as he is the reason the offense wont click. That or Big Bens ego of having to be a hero is through the roof and always calling run plays at the 1.
ben was complete garbage yesterday missing wide open receivers routinely. when he was actually making a proper pass, moore and wheaton were making idiotic drops or effing up routes. not sure that haley was much of a problem. or maybe its his fault they cant execute the offense. i dunno, i thought it would be a shootout and had big roeth in my lineups and it cost me.
Point is the percentage of scoring by pounding the ball at the 1 with Bell is much higher than throwing the ball and running it with half yard and done Blount. When you run for one yard, you have a less chance of a holding penalty or if their is a personal foul penalty if will normally happen after the play and the TD will stand. You do not understand why Haley is a problem? Have you watch the Steelers this year for more than just yesterday? His play calling is a huge problem, some would say a Titantic problem as he always sinks the team with some horrible play calls. Passing on the one when you have two big backs is not just bad play calling its a lack of understanding of your personnel.

 
They had the ball on the 1 yard line and what do they do? They pass then get a 15 yard penalty on the play. All coaches try to outsmart themselves with decisions like this, its why I never feel bad for any coach who gets fired. They make bad decisions all the time like they are trying to trick people. The same thing I complain about with Brady never throwing on the one, its all the Steelers do at the one. Teams have to find the happy medium. I am not a Steelers fan but if I was, my anger would be with Haley as he is the reason the offense wont click. That or Big Bens ego of having to be a hero is through the roof and always calling run plays at the 1.
ben was complete garbage yesterday missing wide open receivers routinely. when he was actually making a proper pass, moore and wheaton were making idiotic drops or effing up routes. not sure that haley was much of a problem. or maybe its his fault they cant execute the offense. i dunno, i thought it would be a shootout and had big roeth in my lineups and it cost me.
He definitely wasn't trying to win. Yes, that's what I mean.

 
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You have to have perspective. Bell has been a really solid consistent start which is more than we can say for almost every RB this year.

 
I loves me some Bell. Wish he had some more TD's but he is rock solid every week. The TD's will come. He touches the ball too much for that not to happen...

 
ben was complete garbage yesterday missing wide open receivers routinely. when he was actually making a proper pass, moore and wheaton were making idiotic drops or effing up routes. not sure that haley was much of a problem. or maybe its his fault they cant execute the offense. i dunno, i thought it would be a shootout and had big roeth in my lineups and it cost me.
Not sure how that makes it any better, rather than worse.

So Big Ben is playing poorly. The WRs are playing poorly. The running game is working pretty well. So when you get down near the goaline you decide to......pass, pass, and pass some more?

 
The Steelers use Bell and move the ball well. Then they stop using Bell and stall out. Rinse/repeat.

 
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This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
Bell has been quite consistent, so you need to get a clue....TD's will come
Yeah consistently OK ... But OK doesn't win FF games

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
Bell has been quite consistent, so you need to get a clue....TD's will come
Yeah consistently OK ... But OK doesn't win FF games
I'm 5-1 with Bell in the lineup every week.... Looks like it does win FF games... lol

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
What kind of scoring does your league use? Because those numbers don't make sense with any "normal" scoring rules.

He has 25.7, 10.7, 15.7, 10.9, 11.8, 10.5 for me. Standard scoring, non-PPR. #5 RB. He has had 2 TDs vultured by Blount, but the Pitt offense hasn't been scoring many TDs in the red zone. IF they can figure that out, Bell will start to get some TDs.
1pt 15 yds

 
Im convinced that Ben is audibling to pass plays on the 2-3 yrd line to pad his stats....idk why he just seems like that kind of dude now days. Hes got money, hes got SB's, now hes making a run for HOF though he has no claim

 
Im convinced that Ben is audibling to pass plays on the 2-3 yrd line to pad his stats....idk why he just seems like that kind of dude now days. Hes got money, hes got SB's, now hes making a run for HOF though he has no claim
I wouldn't doubt it at all.

 
He is Tiki Barber once Brandon Jacobs came to the Giants. He is going probably 2000 total yards a season, but have between 5 and 8 touchdowns.
He's got 1 after 6 games ... he's on pace for 2 or 3 for the season.

I'd be thrilled for 5-8 tds but right now he's just a little better than useless ... maybe Kendall Wright from last year
Out of curiosity, I looked up every season since 2002 where:

(1) a running back produced 600+ yards from scrimmage over the first six weeks of the season while

(2) scoring 2 or fewer total touchdowns and

(3) the running back finished the season with 14+ games played (to clear out the injury guys)

These filters gave me 15 names plus Bell himself. Over the rest of the season, the other 15 backs averaged 7.5 touchdowns.

The worst-case comp for Bell would be 2011 Matt Forte or 2005 Warrick Dunn, who both produced just two touchdowns the rest of the way. On the other end of the spectrum, 2012 Marshawn Lynch (10), 2012 Adrian Peterson (11), 2006 Steven Jackson (14), and 2003 LaDainian Tomlinson (15) all averaged 1+ touchdown per game over the rest of the season after scoring just twice in the first six weeks.

In short... regression to the mean is a real thing.

 
This Pittsburgh team does not run the ball for TDs with Big Ben at the helm. His ego is too much.

Willie Parker

2007 Pittsburgh Steelers 15 321/1,316/2

2005 Pittsburgh Steelers 15 255/1,202/4

Mendenhall only had double digit TDs once, same for Willie Parker. That is three every down backs over the course of 10 years (Parker, Mendenhall and Bell) with just two double digit TD seasons.

 
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You have to have perspective. Bell has been a really solid consistent start which is more than we can say for almost every RB this year.
TDs win. You can get one yard and a TD in standard non PPR leagues and still have more points than if he ran for 120 yards. (In some leagues)

 
He is Tiki Barber once Brandon Jacobs came to the Giants. He is going probably 2000 total yards a season, but have between 5 and 8 touchdowns.
He's got 1 after 6 games ... he's on pace for 2 or 3 for the season.

I'd be thrilled for 5-8 tds but right now he's just a little better than useless ... maybe Kendall Wright from last year
Out of curiosity, I looked up every season since 2002 where:

(1) a running back produced 600+ yards from scrimmage over the first six weeks of the season while

(2) scoring 2 or fewer total touchdowns and

(3) the running back finished the season with 14+ games played (to clear out the injury guys)

These filters gave me 15 names plus Bell himself. Over the rest of the season, the other 15 backs averaged 7.5 touchdowns.

The worst-case comp for Bell would be 2011 Matt Forte or 2005 Warrick Dunn, who both produced just two touchdowns the rest of the way. On the other end of the spectrum, 2012 Marshawn Lynch (10), 2012 Adrian Peterson (11), 2006 Steven Jackson (14), and 2003 LaDainian Tomlinson (15) all averaged 1+ touchdown per game over the rest of the season after scoring just twice in the first six weeks.

In short... regression to the mean is a real thing.
That's encouraging but it has to start this week or it probably wont matter for me

 
He is Tiki Barber once Brandon Jacobs came to the Giants. He is going probably 2000 total yards a season, but have between 5 and 8 touchdowns.
He's got 1 after 6 games ... he's on pace for 2 or 3 for the season.

I'd be thrilled for 5-8 tds but right now he's just a little better than useless ... maybe Kendall Wright from last year
Out of curiosity, I looked up every season since 2002 where:

(1) a running back produced 600+ yards from scrimmage over the first six weeks of the season while

(2) scoring 2 or fewer total touchdowns and

(3) the running back finished the season with 14+ games played (to clear out the injury guys)

These filters gave me 15 names plus Bell himself. Over the rest of the season, the other 15 backs averaged 7.5 touchdowns.

The worst-case comp for Bell would be 2011 Matt Forte or 2005 Warrick Dunn, who both produced just two touchdowns the rest of the way. On the other end of the spectrum, 2012 Marshawn Lynch (10), 2012 Adrian Peterson (11), 2006 Steven Jackson (14), and 2003 LaDainian Tomlinson (15) all averaged 1+ touchdown per game over the rest of the season after scoring just twice in the first six weeks.

In short... regression to the mean is a real thing.
That's encouraging but it has to start this week or it probably wont matter for me
good lord, he's number 5 among RB in non-PPR. And actually pretty close to number 2. I'm sorry that everyone can't be DeMarco Murray.

 
This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
#3 RB in my ppr league, shrug

TDs are too random
Dont get me started about PPR ... that's a perfect example of why they suck
I'd suggest just the opposite.
No, they suck. ;)

 
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This guy is becoming a waste of roster space ... 1 F****** TD this season.

He might be the most overrated player in FF right now ... I've been losing close games all year because my so called stud RB hasnt had a TD in 6 weeks.

Points total for me

20.13 (week 1 he had a TD)

11.47 (ran for 147 yards)

8.13 (Crap)

7.87 (Crap)

7.27 (Crap)

7.0 (Crap)

I expect 10-20 pts a game not this crap
What kind of scoring does your league use? Because those numbers don't make sense with any "normal" scoring rules.

He has 25.7, 10.7, 15.7, 10.9, 11.8, 10.5 for me. Standard scoring, non-PPR. #5 RB. He has had 2 TDs vultured by Blount, but the Pitt offense hasn't been scoring many TDs in the red zone. IF they can figure that out, Bell will start to get some TDs.
1pt 15 yds
You play in a non ppr 1 pt per 15 yds rushing/receiving?

Might as well play in a TD only league.

In normal leagues, Bell has been solid.

 
Le'Veon Bell waives hearing Wed Oct 15, 09:04 AM

Pittsburgh Steelers RB Le'Veon Bell waived his right to a preliminary hearing Wednesday, Oct. 15, on marijuana possession and driving under the influence chargers. That means he and his attorney acknowledge police have enough evidence for the charges to go to Allegheny County Common Pleas Court, where Bell must either plead to all or some of the charges or stand trial.

 
You have to have perspective. Bell has been a really solid consistent start which is more than we can say for almost every RB this year.
TDs win. You can get one yard and a TD in standard non PPR leagues and still have more points than if he ran for 120 yards. (In some leagues)
There are leagues where TDs count as 12 points?
some length of TD leagues, yes
Yeah, but he said a one yard TD.

 
You have to have perspective. Bell has been a really solid consistent start which is more than we can say for almost every RB this year.
TDs win. You can get one yard and a TD in standard non PPR leagues and still have more points than if he ran for 120 yards. (In some leagues)
There are leagues where TDs count as 12 points?
There are league where 20 yards count as 1 point.
Fair enough. I don't think that's very common though.

 
He's on pace for 354 touches and 2,100+ yards this year. That is every fantasy player's dream. Sorry if the TDs aren't coming at the pace you hoped for but complaining about a guy getting that many opportunities is nuts.

 
He's on pace for 354 touches and 2,100+ yards this year. That is every fantasy player's dream. Sorry if the TDs aren't coming at the pace you hoped for but complaining about a guy getting that many opportunities is nuts.
I can see the complaining in standard leagues but he's absolute gold in PPR....plus the TDs will come.

 

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