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RB Nick Chubb, HOU (1 Viewer)

:lmao: still trying to pick the worst Bracie hot take... That Chubb won't see the field anytime soon or that Chubb is awful at pass protection. Both tragically wrong.

 
I'm  optimistic, but I  also remember a few years ago  when cj Anderson went down in Denver and I thought that booker who looked great in a limited  roll would lead me to a championship. May be a total different  scenario but I  still am pumping the brakes a bit...

 
Browns trade Carlos Hyde to Jaguars to fill Fournette injury void, Nick Chubb a big winner

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In Cleveland, things are pretty obvious. Nick Chubb is the man now. The second-round pick out of Georgia is an immense talent who has ripped off some huge runs this year. He's averaging an absurd 10.8 yards per carry (not a typo) so far this season and has been electric when given the ball.

Chubb is capable of carrying a full load and could become a monster as Cleveland's bellcow back. The Browns just made a smart financial move too: they won't have to deal with the aftermath of Hyde's contract. It would have only been a few million in dead money on the cap if he was cut next offseason, but they just saved cash, got to play their young back and got a pick in return for their trouble.
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Bracie Smathers said:
Saquon Barkley is averaging 14 rushes per game and he can pass protect and catch the ball so he doesn't come off the field unless he has a long run and needs a breather.  He's never had 20 rushes in a game in his NFL career to this point.

Nick Chubb isn't going to get 20 touches a game if he's a liability in the passing game.
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This is becoming nearly an exhausting stance you have on Chubb. Why don’t we see in a larger sample size if he has improved in that specific area (pass protection and pass catching). Because it sure looks like he can make plays running the ball which does count for something. The Browns must also believe enough in him to move on from a competent veteran.

 
These Chubb  isn't  going to get 20 carries takes or  whatever are horrible. This guy is a monster waiting to  happen. Chubb has the 2nd highest game speed at RB  on his 63 yd td, at 21.1mph. I'm not clear why they counting Henry's  paltry 2 yd run  in week 1 at 21.46.  Barkley was 3rd highest on his week  6 run of 46 yds at 21.07.  Chubb is 2 years removed from his nasty injury, I smell elite all the way. There is no chance on earth this guy isn't already one of the best backs in the NFL right now. He was every bit as good as Zeke and Fournette  in college IMO before his injury.  Gurley,Chubb, and Michel all on one college team reminds me of Miami's backs back in the day - Portis,Gore,McGahee

 
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hardcoredx said:
These Chubb  isn't  going to get 20 carries takes or  whatever are horrible. This guy is a monster waiting to  happen. Chubb has the 2nd highest game speed at RB  on his 63 yd td, at 21.1mph. I'm not clear why they counting Henry's  paltry 2 yd run  in week 1 at 21.46.  Barkley was 3rd highest on his week  6 run of 46 yds at 21.07.  Chubb is 2 years removed from his nasty injury, I smell elite all the way. There is no chance on earth this guy isn't already one of the best backs in the NFL right now. He was every bit as good as Zeke and Fournette  in college IMO before his injury.  Gurley,Chubb, and Michel all on one college team reminds me of Miami's backs back in the day - Portis,Gore,McGahee
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This isn't your daddy's nfl.  Only Gurley is averaging over 20 carries.  Hyde and Elliott at 18 or so.  I honestly would think in today's game, 18 is about what you want your lead back to do.

 
The Dude said:
This isn't your daddy's nfl.  Only Gurley is averaging over 20 carries.  Hyde and Elliott at 18 or so.  I honestly would think in today's game, 18 is about what you want your lead back to do.
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18 is enough, point is Tampa Bay's secondary should be ####ting in their beds right now

 
Interesting...all of Dodds, Bloom, and Tremblay have all of A. Collins, J. Howard, and M. Mack projected higher than Chubb in PPR.

Really?

 
kyoun1e said:
Interesting...all of Dodds, Bloom, and Tremblay have all of A. Collins, J. Howard, and M. Mack projected higher than Chubb in PPR.

Really?
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Well, there's reason to wonder.

First game in expanded role.

Does Duke take all the receptions?

Is the TB run defense that good?

ESPN has him behind Mccoy and Coleman - which is no more encouraging

 
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kyoun1e said:
Interesting...all of Dodds, Bloom, and Tremblay have all of A. Collins, J. Howard, and M. Mack projected higher than Chubb in PPR.

Really?
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It’s a fairly safe call considering we don’t know how Hue will use him this week. 

I may go the bold route just because I’m heavily favored this week in the league I’ve got Chubb. 

If it were a closer matchup I might well go with Collins for the safer floor. 

 
Is the TB run defense that good?
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IMO the TB run offense is a myth. 

For one; McCoy is out. For another, teams haven’t been running on them that much since they’ve had the worst secondary - like, ever. 

Of all the concerns this week with Chubb, the matchup is my last. 

 
What Chubb has done with limited carries is not dumb luck. Guy has probably been killing it in practice and his talents I'm sure are obvious to everyone on the team. I give props to Hue as a man because he probably made certain assurances to Carlos after Dorsey drafted Chubb. Hue kept his word to Carlos but unfortunately his word goes against playing the most talented player. So as a person I can give him props but as a coach of a professional sports team that needs to win we don't gaf what commitment you made. Field the best team.

Chubb had to watch Sony get drafted in front of him. Had to watch Sony get a feature role before him. Now it's time to unleash the Chubb!!

 
FreshiZ said:
I think Duke gets a little closer to last year's role but this is Chubb's backfield now
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I have both players, so I don't care which one produces. But, let's not kid ourselves... this is Chubb's backfield now. It was when they decided to draft him. It was just a matter of time.

 
This is the best news because I had him in my back pocket after trading Tevin Coleman earlier this week after that news.. First Coleman, now Chubb.. this has been a hell of a week for my backfield.. Now I have to decide between him and Breida this week..

 
I like and appreciate Bracie's perspective. He's been a vocal Brown's fan for years and surely has a better level of insight into the team than many of us. 

 
FreshiZ said:
What Chubb has done with limited carries is not dumb luck. Guy has probably been killing it in practice and his talents I'm sure are obvious to everyone on the team. I give props to Hue as a man because he probably made certain assurances to Carlos after Dorsey drafted Chubb. Hue kept his word to Carlos but unfortunately his word goes against playing the most talented player. So as a person I can give him props but as a coach of a professional sports team that needs to win we don't gaf what commitment you made. Field the best team.

Chubb had to watch Sony get drafted in front of him. Had to watch Sony get a feature role before him. Now it's time to unleash the Chubb!!
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I'm certainly not a Hue hater.  He took a tough job.  But there's no room for feelings in the nfl.  Play your best players.   Period.  And there's 2 n 32...

Ain't no participation trophies.

 
To the question of Chubb's readiness to take this job and succeed:

I owned Hyde for the first three years of his NFL career, so I watched a lot of his games. The guy is legit. Hyde is an excellent, underrated RB. Cleveland knew what they were trading in Hyde.

I think Chubb is a superstar. Watch Chubb on that first TD at Oakland. Check out how speedy #21 has a perfect angle on Chubb, and Chubb rockets past the defender. Chubb is a beast.

 
jdoggydogg said:
To the question of Chubb's readiness to take this job and succeed:

I owned Hyde for the first three years of his NFL career, so I watched a lot of his games. The guy is legit. Hyde is an excellent, underrated RB. Cleveland knew what they were trading in Hyde.

I think Chubb is a superstar. Watch Chubb on that first TD at Oakland. Check out how speedy #21 has a perfect angle on Chubb, and Chubb rockets past the defender. Chubb is a beast.
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yep.  Hyde is a filler.  Chubb is a stud.

 
Who will be the 1st commentator to use terms along the lines of:

Chubb pounding the D

Chubb with great protection there

Chubb explodes into the end zone

Chubb on the rub route

 
Bucs have the 2nd best ranked defensive line in the league 2018 DEFENSIVE LINES Regular season totals, through Week 6 but will be missing two starters Sunday.

McCoy OUT is huge but the Browns starting OC J.C. Tretter is listed as QUESTIONABLE so rookie OL Austin Corbett 'might' get the start or get used if Tretter needs a rest.  Corbett has never played center in the NFL but many scouting reports said that he would eventually line up at center.  The advantage goes to the Browns since McCoy can dominate the interior.

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Ilov80s said:
Anyone else worried the duke is about to splash?
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Totally unrelated to Chubb, even before the NFL draft, I'd been saying Duke was overrated and a sell high based on two things: (1) he's a third down back on a 1-31 team. Expectations on his role continuing are going to be let down. Cleveland is/was improving. His role will shrink as they improve. (2) he's not that good. His rushing stats are aided by game situation. I was reading some advanced stats from 2016 and he was a JAG-level runner. 

I've never been impressed with him. He's just a volume receiving back whose volume was due to shrink as the team improved. If Hue uses him over Chubb it'll be criminal.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Cleveland knew what they were trading in Hyde.
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Hyde was scheduled to make $6 million next year which he never was going to see.  Dorsey signed him in the offseason well before the draft after Crow left.  

Hyde wasn't being used in the passing game as a receiver (averaging 1 catch per game) and he was blowing pass-pro assignments where Chubb has flashed enough to show he's a better runner and last  Sunday was not only  Hyde's worst rushing and receiving game of the year it was Duke's best rushing and receiving game of the year and Duke can pass-pro.  I think Dorsey realized he wasn't getting anything from Hyde that he couldn't get better from a combo of Chubb and Duke and that he was going to cut Hyde and get nothing so it made a lot of sense for Dorsey.

 
John Dorsey makes decision for Hue Jackson (cleveland.com) - Hue Jackson was debating between soup and a sandwich for lunch on Friday when Browns general manager John Dorsey traded his turkey club to Seattle for a conditional pick. Soup it is.
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- DBN

 
Ilov80s said:
Johnson can get deep

Johnson can slide through even the tightest crease

3rd and long, Johnson does damage in the slot
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Maybe he can - who knows based on this year to date. It remains to be seen if Cleveland finally gives him more than 6 touches in a game.

 
Ilov80s said:
Johnson can get deep

Johnson can slide through even the tightest crease

3rd and long, Johnson does damage in the slot
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Somehow I feel like you’re trying to tell us something but I can’t quite put my finger on it.  :unsure:

perhaps if you wrote it out off-line. The penis mightier the sword, after all.  :pickle:

 
buck naked said:
Maybe he can - who knows based on this year to date. It remains to be seen if Cleveland finally gives him more than 6 touches in a game.
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I admire you for posting a serious response to that. My 11 year old boy brain would never allow that sort of sincerity in a moment like this. 

 
buck naked said:
Maybe he can - who knows based on this year to date. It remains to be seen if Cleveland finally gives him more than 6 touches in a game.
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I think he's going to have to. Consider how many 3rd down and passing situations Hyde stayed in for that Duke will go in for Chubb. I'm not saying I know the answer but then no one does yet. This could become a Collins/Allen situation where it will depend on how the game script goes, and even Collins is a better bet in the passing game than Chubb, though like I said admittedly we don't know yet. Can Chubb pass protect and run routes effectively? We'll see.

 
Top 5 non-ppr RB play this weekend. Dodds is way off putting him 30th in his final rankings.

 
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
I admire you for posting a serious response to that. My 11 year old boy brain would never allow that sort of sincerity in a moment like this. 
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hahahaha   I didn't even pick up on it, which is amazing because my wife of 27 years often asks me in times like this, "What, are you 12?"

 
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