RB Ollie Gordon II, MIA (3 Viewers)

[King of the Jungle]

I view Gordon two ways. Right now he could be that "different" RB for a good change of pace and possibly GL back. But, if Achane went down I view Wright as the back with a similar skillset as Achane and is still the direct backup.

I agree, but at some point Wright needs to show something on the field. With McDaniels on the hot seat, I have to think of Gordon is showing more he will slide ahead of Wright (even though they spent quite a bit of draft capital on Jaylen).

 

[BigJim®]

I'm one of those who drafted Gordon over Jeanty in devy. OG had everything you wanted in a RB.

It's definitely bizarre to have the opportunity to draft a Doak Award winner in the 4th round of a rookie draft.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm one of those who drafted Gordon over Jeanty in devy. OG had everything you wanted in a RB.

It's definitely bizarre to have the opportunity to draft a Doak Award winner in the 4th round of a rookie draft.

I agree, but he looked like he needed a service dog to find running lanes last year. I mean he looked bad. Probably the reason he fell to round 6.

 

[Bri]

Their line isn't very good.
I think their coach does a marvelous job trying to scheme around it (most just go thru ugliness til they get a line) but there's only so many screens and Tua slickness that can help.

I love this back. He was darn good two years ago but when his college line stunk last year, he had a real difficult time. He doesn't appear like the rare elite that can make their own way.

It seem like a repeat of last season (for each) for the Fins and Ollie.

I'm a big fan but someone else can select him. I gotta see that OL do pretty good first

 

[Faust]

Jared Smola
Small sample sizes, but ...

Dolphins RBs this preseason

Yards per carry
Ollie Gordon: 4.6
Jaylen Wright: 1.5

Yards after contact per attempt
Gordon: 4.06
Wright: 1.54

Missed tackles forced per attempt
Gordon: 0.22
Wright: 0.08

https://x.com/smolads/status/1957971161070833904?s=61

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Pleasantly surprised that he fell to me at the 5.3 of a rookie / free agent draft last night. Hoping this guy can take the #2 outright and start making a case for more thunder to Achane's lighting.

 

[Ilov80s]

Pleasantly surprised that he fell to me at the 5.3 of a rookie / free agent draft last night. Hoping this guy can take the #2 outright and start making a case for more thunder to Achane's lighting.

That is a good value right now. In May, June that seemed par for the course but it's looking like he's going to pass Jaylen Wright and obviously Mattison is out. Achane is dinged up. There's a really strong chance Gordon is putting up viable fantasy scores this season.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Pleasantly surprised that he fell to me at the 5.3 of a rookie / free agent draft last night. Hoping this guy can take the #2 outright and start making a case for more thunder to Achane's lighting.

That is a good value right now. In May, June that seemed par for the course but it's looking like he's going to pass Jaylen Wright and obviously Mattison is out. Achane is dinged up. There's a really strong chance Gordon is putting up viable fantasy scores this season.

When you have a league where most are competent, few are sharks, and a couple are just lost, I was expecting something juicy to fall. Just a vast sea of intriguing Day 3 picks that have a real shot to claim a #2 job. Somebody was going to get through, I was just surprised Gordon was one of them with recent strong performances and Achane being dinged news.

The trouble is, I'm now sifting through my roster looking for more dead weight to throw overboard, taking a real hard look at guys I was actually planning to keep around. The league left way too much meat on the bone. Tahj Brooks, Jordan James, Devin Neal, KLS, Horton all just sitting on the wire right now.

 

[SoBeDad]

Jaylen Wright walked off joint practice with trainers. Had a limp. Severity unknown. The most pessimistic take was from Omar Kelly. The other beat writers just said he walked off with trainers. Omar is not a doctor or PT.

>>Jaylen Wright is being walked to the Baptist Health facility with a limp and it doesn’t look good. Not saying season ending, but this isn’t a “I’ll bounce back” limp. But at least he’s walking.<<

 

[Football Jones]

5-26 and Ollie looks like an NFL RB. He made 2 really nice pass pro pickups, as well.

Ollie also must have earned some respect already because he was getting on the OL after their first series (or at least that's what it looked like). Bold move for a rook...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

6-1/230 lb banger and looks the part in camp and preseason
He won't get a lot of touches but when he does he's going to create positive yards IMO

 

[Football Jones]

6-1/230 lb banger and looks the part in camp and preseason
He won't get a lot of touches but when he does he's going to create positive yards IMO

I think there's a path to a decent amount of touches. I'd love to see it.

I was shocked he fell to the 6th round. I realize his production fell way off last season (Oklahoma State's offense was terrible), but Ollie was the best RB in college football as a 19 year old. Sometimes NFL valuations are really puzzling.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

6-1/230 lb banger and looks the part in camp and preseason
He won't get a lot of touches but when he does he's going to create positive yards IMO

I think there's a path to a decent amount of touches. I'd love to see it.

I was shocked he fell to the 6th round. I realize his production fell way off last season (Oklahoma State's offense was terrible), but Ollie was the best RB in college football as a 19 year old. Sometimes NFL valuations are really puzzling.

Yep, I remember him being talked about at the top of his class for a period of time. Recency bias catches scouts too.

 

[Ilov80s]

6-1/230 lb banger and looks the part in camp and preseason
He won't get a lot of touches but when he does he's going to create positive yards IMO

I think there's a path to a decent amount of touches. I'd love to see it.

I was shocked he fell to the 6th round. I realize his production fell way off last season (Oklahoma State's offense was terrible), but Ollie was the best RB in college football as a 19 year old. Sometimes NFL valuations are really puzzling.

Eerily similar to another Oklahoma State RB who as a a sophomore looked like a potential 1st or 2nd round NFL draft pick, struggled as a junior, ran slower than expected at the combine and fell in the draft. Chuba has found his way to being a good NFL back and Ollie might too.

 

[Mingooch]

I am very high on him in dynasty. Might take a year or two, but seeing him being a later rd hit.

 

[Ilov80s]

I am very high on him in dynasty. Might take a year or two, but seeing him being a later rd hit.

Honestly, 50 and a TD week 1 is on the table.

 

[SoBeDad]

I am very high on him in dynasty. Might take a year or two, but seeing him being a later rd hit.

Honestly, 50 and a TD week 1 is on the table.

How many tall RBs become great RBs? Derrick Henry is the exception. Gordon fell because of a poor junior season, related to bad oline play, and midling speed metrics. Time to pump the brakes a little in dynasty.

However, Gordon has good spatial awareness and makes good decisions most of the time. Lowers pads to punish defenders. Mixed results in 3 pass blocking attempt yesterday. He has soft hands, not sure about route running. Lacks the burst and agility of smaller RBs.

He wasn't a top graded player yesterday by PFF - I'm not sure what the grade was, but it was less than 75. He may have opportunity which is key in fantasy ... TBD.

>>Highest-graded #Dolphins in P3 (min. 15 snaps):S, John Saunders Jr. - 91.4LB, Channing Tindall - 88.6CB, BJ Adams - 82.9LG, Kion Smith - 77.9LB, Dequan Jackson - 77.8C, Aaron Brewer - 76.6CB, Cam Smith - 75.6<<

https://x.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1959641529623937436

 

[King of the Jungle]

May not have good speed but seems to have a decent jump cut and can power more yardage. Has decent speed when he has a runway and power/stiff arm for additional gain. Looks better than I thought he would, but MIA players scare me this year.

 

[BigJim®]

How many tall RBs become great RBs? Derrick Henry is the exception.

Eric Dickerson 6'3"
Eddie George 6'3"
Jim Brown 6'2"
Steven Jackson 6'2"
Marcus Allen 6'2"
Robert Smith 6'2"
Adrian Peterson 6'1"
Ricky Waters 6'1"
OJ Simpson 6'1"
Corey Dillon 6'1"

 

[SoBeDad]

How many tall RBs become great RBs? Derrick Henry is the exception.

Eric Dickerson 6'3"
Eddie George 6'3"
Jim Brown 6'2"
Steven Jackson 6'2"
Marcus Allen 6'2"
Robert Smith 6'2"
Adrian Peterson 6'1"
Ricky Waters 6'1"
OJ Simpson 6'1"
Corey Dillon 6'1"

In recent history, only Henry.

Most on the list above had greatness in athleticism or pass catching ability.

 

[BigJim®]

How many tall RBs become great RBs? Derrick Henry is the exception.

Eric Dickerson 6'3"
Eddie George 6'3"
Jim Brown 6'2"
Steven Jackson 6'2"
Marcus Allen 6'2"
Robert Smith 6'2"
Adrian Peterson 6'1"
Ricky Waters 6'1"
OJ Simpson 6'1"
Corey Dillon 6'1"

In recent history, only Henry.

Most on the list above had greatness in athleticism or pass catching ability.

Oh come on

 

[menobrown]

I see shades of Demarco Murray.

 

[FarFromHome]

I see shades of Demarco Murray.

That escalated quickly. Ha ha

 

[Ilov80s]

I am very high on him in dynasty. Might take a year or two, but seeing him being a later rd hit.

Honestly, 50 and a TD week 1 is on the table.

How many tall RBs become great RBs? Derrick Henry is the exception. Gordon fell because of a poor junior season, related to bad oline play, and midling speed metrics. Time to pump the brakes a little in dynasty.

However, Gordon has good spatial awareness and makes good decisions most of the time. Lowers pads to punish defenders. Mixed results in 3 pass blocking attempt yesterday. He has soft hands, not sure about route running. Lacks the burst and agility of smaller RBs.

He wasn't a top graded player yesterday by PFF - I'm not sure what the grade was, but it was less than 75. He may have opportunity which is key in fantasy ... TBD.

>>Highest-graded #Dolphins in P3 (min. 15 snaps):S, John Saunders Jr. - 91.4LB, Channing Tindall - 88.6CB, BJ Adams - 82.9LG, Kion Smith - 77.9LB, Dequan Jackson - 77.8C, Aaron Brewer - 76.6CB, Cam Smith - 75.6<<

https://x.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1959641529623937436

I like Ollie more in redraft than dynasty right. Opportunity looks like it could happen right now but also regime change likely coming, might be mostly a JAG and could easily get passed over sooner than later when the new staff comes in.

As for his height, he is 6'1 is tall but not so tall that I think there should be a concern. David Johnson, Todd Gurley, Adrian Peterson were all 6'1".

 

[SoBeDad]

FWIW, someone on reddit posted the pff rookie RB rushing grades, and Ollie is 21st at 67. Not too bad.

Donovan Edwards (NYJ) and Treyveon top the list, at 80 and 79.

 

[Ilov80s]

FWIW, someone on reddit posted the pff rookie RB rushing grades, and Ollie is 21st at 67. Not too bad.

Donovan Edwards (NYJ) and Treyveon top the list, at 80 and 79.

Donovan Edwards was one of the most disappointing players in recent Michigan football. He had 4 or 5 of the most important long TD runs in school history but on a game to game, touch to touch basis, the guy was bad. Not sure if he got caught up in always looking to hit a homerun or what but he was thoroughly and completely outplayed last year by Mullings who was a converted LB who could do nothing but run straight fast.

 

[SoBeDad]

I like Ollie more in redraft than dynasty right. Opportunity looks like it could happen right now but also regime change likely coming, might be mostly a JAG and could easily get passed over sooner than later when the new staff comes in.

As for his height, he is 6'1 is tall but not so tall that I think there should be a concern. David Johnson, Todd Gurley, Adrian Peterson were all 6'1".

My thinking too. His "official" height is 6 feet 1 & 3/8 inches. Sometimes listed a 6'2".

David Johnson and Peterson were elite athletes, and Gurley was a better athlete in a perfect system.

 

[Boston]

FWIW, someone on reddit posted the pff rookie RB rushing grades, and Ollie is 21st at 67. Not too bad.

Donovan Edwards (NYJ) and Treyveon top the list, at 80 and 79.

Donovan Edwards was one of the most disappointing players in recent Michigan football. He had 4 or 5 of the most important long TD runs in school history but on a game to game, touch to touch basis, the guy was bad. Not sure if he got caught up in always looking to hit a homerun or what but he was thoroughly and completely outplayed last year by Mullings who was a converted LB who could do nothing but run straight fast.

Agreed…it also felt like he was at Michigan for 15 years.

 

[King of the Jungle]

FWIW, someone on reddit posted the pff rookie RB rushing grades, and Ollie is 21st at 67. Not too bad.

Donovan Edwards (NYJ) and Treyveon top the list, at 80 and 79.

Donovan Edwards was one of the most disappointing players in recent Michigan football. He had 4 or 5 of the most important long TD runs in school history but on a game to game, touch to touch basis, the guy was bad. Not sure if he got caught up in always looking to hit a homerun or what but he was thoroughly and completely outplayed last year by Mullings who was a converted LB who could do nothing but run straight fast.

Was just going to post something similar. It is like the Madden Curse…but college football style. Never the same player after the cover shoot (not as many dynamic runs any way).

 

[Ilov80s]

I like Ollie more in redraft than dynasty right. Opportunity looks like it could happen right now but also regime change likely coming, might be mostly a JAG and could easily get passed over sooner than later when the new staff comes in.

As for his height, he is 6'1 is tall but not so tall that I think there should be a concern. David Johnson, Todd Gurley, Adrian Peterson were all 6'1".

My thinking too. His "official" height is 6 feet 1 & 3/8 inches. Sometimes listed a 6'2".

David Johnson and Peterson were elite athletes, and Gurley was a better athlete in a perfect system.

Yep and in no way am I saying Ollie will ever even have a single season that approaches the peaks of what those 3 guys did. I am just pointing out that I don't think being 6'1" and 3/8 is a problem. It might not be the ideal build but it's not extreme enough to worry me- especially with how cheap he is. He did put up a 2000 yard, 22 TD and 39 reception season at age 19 in a Power 5 Conference. That's enough for me say, he's got something.

 

[Doubles]

Definitely worth picking up over a second qb in a 12 team right? I’m rostering Maye and JJ for some reason.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Measurables are similar to Arian Foster.

 

[Football Jones]

Once the NFL draft went down, I knew there was going to be an opportunity to cash in on some value. 1 QB and 4 RBs immediately came to mind...Shedeur, Gordon, JCM, Neal, and Mafah. All way underdrafted, IMO. This kind of dynamic doesn't happen often.

When I drafted Bill in the 4th (last) round of my rookie draft (right after the NFL draft), I made a note in the comments that he was my highest rated deep sleeper ever. That said, I actually like Ollie as much as Bill, it's just that I don't consider somebody who won the Doak Walker award as a 19 year-old to be a sleeper, much less a deep sleeper.

Ollie doesn't have the path Bill has to touches right now, but I love him in dynasty. He's obviously not a sure thing, but you rarely get a chance at similar talent in the area you can get him. The same can also be said for the other 4 players (although, Bill's value is much more aligned with his talent at this point).

 

[Football Jones]

As far as Gordon's height, I like tall RBs who know how to use leverage. Marcus Allen was a master at it. I also have no speed concerns. Like many tall guys, their 40 often doesn't correlate with their long speed. King Henry is the poster boy for that dynamic.

I'm not saying Gordon is as fast as Henry (he's not), but he's far from a lumbering big guy. Ollie can pick 'em up and put 'em down...he had plenty of long runs in college.

 

[King of the Jungle]

As far as Gordon's height, I like tall RBs who know how to use leverage. Marcus Allen was a master at it. I also have no speed concerns. Like many tall guys, their 40 often doesn't correlate with their long speed. King Henry is the poster boy for that dynamic.

I'm not saying Gordon is as fast as Henry (he's not), but he's far from a lumbering big guy. Ollie can pick 'em up and put 'em down...he had plenty of long runs in college.

He did have quite a few big runs/catches, he can move with a runway.

 

[SoBeDad]

He did have quite a few big runs/catches, he can move with a runway.

The Dolphin oline with RT Austin Jackson out for a while, and rookie LG Jonah Savaiinaea still learning, is bottom 10. It might improve as the season progresses, TBD.

 

[Bri]

Big fan predraft, bad location

I don't buy this hype. The line is bad. They're gonna need creativity and speed to run outside away from defenders.
I think it is probably the worst OL and for Fins fans I hope I'm wrong but ....this is exactly what his prob was at OK State. He is not Barry. He can't make the line seem irrelevant. He relies on them like the other 99% of backs do

 

[Football Jones]

For the record, Gordon is a dynasty stash for the most part. It looks like he's in line to get some touches, but unless Achane goes down, this is a long play.

If Ollie ends up being their starter this season for whatever reason, it's not the best of situations, but he's 21...there's time for things to shake out.

 

[Ilov80s]

Big fan predraft, bad location

I don't buy this hype. The line is bad. They're gonna need creativity and speed to run outside away from defenders.
I think it is probably the worst OL and for Fins fans I hope I'm wrong but ....this is exactly what his prob was at OK State. He is not Barry. He can't make the line seem irrelevant. He relies on them like the other 99% of backs do

Yeah that is the cold water of the whole situation. He might end up getting lots of meaningless touches running into a brick wall.

 

[Faust]

Dolphins' Mike McDaniel impressed with Ollie Gordon in start vs. Jaguars: 'It didn't look too big for him'

 

[King of the Jungle]

Dolphins' Mike McDaniel impressed with Ollie Gordon in start vs. Jaguars: 'It didn't look too big for him'

I didn’t mind the MM hire initially , but he is so awkward answering any question that I feel like he is more suited for a coordinator position and I may come swiftly. This is not based on this answer, but the last few years of accumulation. Maybe he relates better behind the curtain…

 

[HW_53]

Has there been any buzz about the Dolphins signing any additional O-line? Not necessarily for Ollie's sake, but more so for Tua...

 

[kface]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

 

[msudaisy26]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

He is definitively worth a late flier. I have taken him in the last couple rounds of my drafts, but reports say Achane will be ready for week one.

 

[TampaMike19]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

How? They work Achane as much as possible. This guy is not a Mostert type that takes things to the house. Will the RBs get 25 tds this year like the historic 2022?

 

[kface]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

How? They work Achane as much as possible. This guy is not a Mostert type that takes things to the house. Will the RBs get 25 tds this year like the historic 2022?

I own Achane across every one of my leagues, and I don't trust him to stay healthy. Wright looks like a jag, and this guy has shown some talent. Lots of opportunity here if the ball bounces right for him.
There is always one or two guys who, because of injury, come out of nowhere and lead fantasy teams to victories. This guy has that potential. Nobody drafted him in any of my leagues (mostly early drafts)

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

How? They work Achane as much as possible. This guy is not a Mostert type that takes things to the house. Will the RBs get 25 tds this year like the historic 2022?

I'm an Achane truther, always have been, but even I can acknowledge it would be wise to lighten his load a bit. Giving someone else goaline and short yardage would be a great start but Achane's efficiency in those situations are also what makes him great, so the Dolphins are in a bit of a pickle.

I'm with you that I'm just not sure Gordon is the guy to be Achane's Robin He looks awkward running the ball if I'm being honest. His legs look super long and he runs upright. TBH, I liked what I saw from Wright last year more than what I've seen from Gordon so far in preseason and Wright didn't exactly light the world on fire.

Here are Gordon's preseason touches.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[msudaisy26]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

How? They work Achane as much as possible. This guy is not a Mostert type that takes things to the house. Will the RBs get 25 tds this year like the historic 2022?

I own Achane across every one of my leagues, and I don't trust him to stay healthy. Wright looks like a jag, and this guy has shown some talent. Lots of opportunity here if the ball bounces right for him.
There is always one or two guys who, because of injury, come out of nowhere and lead fantasy teams to victories. This guy has that potential. Nobody drafted him in any of my leagues (mostly early drafts)

Achane did play all 17 games last year. His performance dipped while Tua was hurt, but I believe that would be the case for pretty much any skill player on the Dolphins.

 

[Football Jones]

Wright is of zero long-term concern as a Gordon shareholder. The "problem" is Achane, but the Dolphins were terrible in short yardage. Achane isn't good at it. That's where Ollie can help.

Miami wasn't a great destination, but things have a way of working out for talented players. Gordon is a strong dynasty hold, especially at his price.

 

[Todem]

I feel like this guy is going to win a bunch of people their leagues

How? They work Achane as much as possible. This guy is not a Mostert type that takes things to the house. Will the RBs get 25 tds this year like the historic 2022?

I own Achane across every one of my leagues, and I don't trust him to stay healthy. Wright looks like a jag, and this guy has shown some talent. Lots of opportunity here if the ball bounces right for him.
There is always one or two guys who, because of injury, come out of nowhere and lead fantasy teams to victories. This guy has that potential. Nobody drafted him in any of my leagues (mostly early drafts)

Achane did play all 17 games last year. His performance dipped while Tua was hurt, but I believe that would be the case for pretty much any skill player on the Dolphins.

Tua may last 6-8 weeks tops behind this OL.

Take that for what's it worth. He literally can't move either. Like he has cement in his feet and zero ability to escape. So Tua will not be counted on by this Dolphins fan (I have not counted on him the day they said his name at the 2020 draft).

Gordon has looked very good....firmly the 2nd back right now and leaped ahead of Wright. My only real concern with Gordon is he truly stands straight up and does not run low to the ground at all. He will take a lot of punishment. I can see him being highly injury prone in the NFL.