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RB Saquon Barkley, PHI (5 Viewers)

jm192 said:
What in the world do we do with him in dynasty?  

I almost feel like I have to hold.  He's only 24.  He's been injured off and on the last 3 years.  He's had a few nice games but hasn't gotten back to the world beater form he was as a rookie.  And then the Giants are just a Giant dumpster fire.  
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What else can you do? His value is arguably lower than when he was recovering from acl. Just know it will probably be tough for another year 

 
TampaMike19 said:
What else can you do? His value is arguably lower than when he was recovering from acl. Just know it will probably be tough for another year 
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Sure.  

I guess if we think next year is also going to be tough--and we're then through 5 seasons of his career with a lot of injuries already--do we consider selling low while the name Saquon Barkley still carries some weight?

Ultimately I doubt I'll find an offer that's worth moving him for.  And I'll hold him hoping he starts hot next year and then we can look to do something.

 
jm192 said:
What in the world do we do with him in dynasty?  

I almost feel like I have to hold.  He's only 24.  He's been injured off and on the last 3 years.  He's had a few nice games but hasn't gotten back to the world beater form he was as a rookie.  And then the Giants are just a Giant dumpster fire.  
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Was offered AJ Dillon and 2022 1.09 for him

Decided it was time to move on and took it. 

 
We all hoped that he was going to recover from the ACL like Adrian Peterson, but it's been more like Dalvin Cook.  This year is very reminiscent of Cook's post-ACL year with underperformance and additional lower leg injuries while he compensates.  Hopefully he can bounce back like Cook.  I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet.

Dalvin:  11 games, 133car, 615yds, 40rec, 305yds, 4td

Saquon: 12 game,s 151car, 563yds, 38rec, 284yds, 4td

 
The Giants can’t be any worse at oline /scheme, etc than this year. He’ll be another year removed from major injury. I think I will try to buy him for reasonable price.  

 
voiceofunreason said:
I get it but think its a pretty bad undersell. 1.09 in a bad draft and a backup rb where the qb could leave? Its not a lot.
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I have the 1.03 to replace him at RB already so 1.09 could be one of the better WR's in the draft, but yes I see your point. I just felt it was time, sure it could bite me and it could also go off the deep end and he is not worth even a 1st after next season. Its a gamble but I felt it was worth it. 

 
Rally Monkey said:
Whats that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. 
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INSANITY

noun

in·san·i·ty | \ in-ˈsa-nə-tē  \

plural insanities

Definition of insanity

1 dated : a severely disordered state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder

2 law : unsoundness of mind or lack of the ability to understand that prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or that releases one from criminal or civil responsibility

3 a: extreme folly or unreasonableness the insanity of violence His comments were pure insanity.

   b: something utterly foolish or unreasonable the insanities of modern life
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I took him with my first pick in a dynasty dispersal draft last year and regret it.  But he also went 1.15 and 1.21 in my 24 team two copy dynasty startup at the beginning of the year.  (Didn't take him there)  In late August in my other SF dynasty league he was traded for Jones, Mac NEP QB; Mariota, Marcus LVR QB; Parham, Donald LAC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Late Rookie Draft Pick and I didn't like to see the return there.  But it is SF best ball with 1 RB starter and 5 flex spots so RB is a bit devalued there. 

The one positive thing about missing all those games is also missing all those hits.  He is still only 24 and with his talent is capable of a nice stretch if he can get healthy and into a better situation.  I'm still holding for now.

 
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I am looking to buy in dynasty from a guy who has a totally loaded team and would look for pics for Barkley.  I am just not sure what to offer.  It will certainly NOT be my 2022 1.1.  I could offer the 2022 1.7 and a 2022 second and a 2023 2nd.  Just not sure that would be enough to get it done, or if I even want to offer that.

I am intrigued by the fact he could be a RFA in 2023 but fear the Giants will extend him.

 
SNY's Ralph Vacchiano doesn't expect the Giants to extend contract-year RB Saquon Barkley.

Vacchiano would expect new GM Joe Schoen to shop Barkley on the trade market if his value wasn't at an all-time low coming off a down season after losing 2020 to a torn ACL. Cutting him also isn't an option with Barkley due a guaranteed $7.217 million salary this year. Of course, all this could change if Barkley is able to rebound to his former self in what will hopefully be an improved offense under first-time head coach Brian Daboll. Barkley just turned 25 earlier this month. The new Giants regime, however, isn't the one that used the No. 2 overall pick on him back in 2018.

SOURCE: SNY

Feb 28, 2022, 7:38 PM ET
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Giants GM Joe Schoen said, "I'm open to anything," when asked about trading Saquon Barkley.

Schoen followed that quote up with, "I’m not going to say yes to every deal, but I’m going to listen.” With Barkley and Daniel Jones both set to be free agents at the end of the 2022 season, Schoen may be looking to hit the reset button a year early. Trading Barkley would be the first step. Barkley has played 15 games over the past two years and hasn't played a full season since 2018. Schoen and GM Brandon Beane never made spending big on running backs a priority while in Buffalo either. Whether he walks as a free agent in a year or the Giants pull the plug early, Barkley's time in New York appears to be nearing an end.

SOURCE: Adam Beasley on Twitter

Mar 1, 2022, 1:49 PM ET
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Saquon Barkley is "not expected" to be traded this offseason. 

This report throws cold water on the prospect of New York parting ways with Barkley after two straight injury-marred seasons. Asked this week if the Giants would consider trading Barkley this offseason, new general manager Joe Schoen said he's "open to anything" with personnel moves. Ending the Barley/Daniel Jones era would represent a clean split from the disastrous Dave Gettleman era, though it looks like the Giants will see what Jones and Barkley have left before their contracts expire at the end of the 2022 season. SNY's Ralph Vacchiano said last month that he does not expect the team to re-sign Barkley. It's hard to imagine many teams champing at the bit to trade for the running back this offseason. 

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Mar 4, 2022, 2:45 PM ET
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ESPN's Dan Graziano reports "the sense" is that Saquon Barkley won't be on the Giants in 2022.

The Giants hope, per Graziano, is that a contending team with a need for one more explosive player on offense might offer a mid-round pick for Barkley. Saquon's $7.2 million salary could be an easy jettison for new Giants GM Joe Schoen. The Giants have been in cost-cutting mode from the moment Schoen took over, so it's hard to look past the idea that Barkley could be dealt. Ian Rapoport reported earlier in March that Barkley wasn't expected to be traded, but Barkley may be a fallback option for some team's cap space. 

SOURCE: ESPN

Mar 13, 2022, 1:33 PM ET
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ghostguy123 said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like the Giants should pretty easily get a 3rd rounder for Barkley.  
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7 million dollars for a contract year RB, who hasn't been good since 2019, and has 1 healthy season out of 4.

I feel like a 3 is a best case scenario. 

 
travdogg said:
7 million dollars for a contract year RB, who hasn't been good since 2019, and has 1 healthy season out of 4.

I feel like a 3 is a best case scenario. 
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True, hard to know what value Barkley would command in a league that has really devalued the RB position. 7 million dollars in a contract year and a 3rd does sound steep when there are other FAs out there that could be had for a lot cheaper. Or a team can use that 3rd on a promising rookie.

I guess it depends on whether a team believes that Barkley can revert back to the difference maker he was as a rookie. 

 
Got an offer I like to send me Barkley. He was a blindspot for me in 2021 (no shares) - how was his recovery? Any update? I don't really care where he lands but I am curious if he is considered fully healthy again. Even if that means less than what he was 3 years ago.

 
barackdhouse said:
Got an offer I like to send me Barkley. He was a blindspot for me in 2021 (no shares) - how was his recovery? Any update? I don't really care where he lands but I am curious if he is considered fully healthy again. Even if that means less than what he was 3 years ago.
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What I saw last year and believe to be the case is his body is right but not his mind.

 
menobrown said:
What I saw last year and believe to be the case is his body is right but not his mind.
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From the standpoint that he is a headcase in the locker room/off field? Or that in recovering from serious injury he is thinking about his moves/not letting muscle memory take over? Or football IQ stuff?

Guess it doesn't matter now because I accepted and he is on my team. It is probably my strongest team of all and needed to consolidate pretty bad. 

 
Grahamburn said:
Makes a lot of sense for them. I wouldn’t expect Fournette to sign up for another one year deal. 
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I was thinking that is exactly what they would all want. I know LF and really anyone would prefer to not have 1 year deal but for a chance to be the lead guy again with TB out front? Already has the chemistry?

 
barackdhouse said:
I was thinking that is exactly what they would all want. I know LF and really anyone would prefer to not have 1 year deal but for a chance to be the lead guy again with TB out front? Already has the chemistry?
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He might? I don’t know. RBs need to cash in when they can. He had a nice year. 

 
Grahamburn said:
He might? I don’t know. RBs need to cash in when they can. He had a nice year. 
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Yeah I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he took a deal somewhere else for sure. It's just that his name was the first my mind went to when I heard Brady was coming back. I was like oh the band is staying together then.

 
Wouldn’t Barkley be too expensive for the Bucs? I know the cap is a joke but 7M for a RB isn’t their thing usually. 

 
Capella said:
Wouldn’t Barkley be too expensive for the Bucs? I know the cap is a joke but 7M for a RB isn’t their thing usually. 
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Yes.  His cap hit is certainly steep, but like you said it doesn't really matter.  They did the "we're getting the band back together" thing last year.  I think they need to go beyond that this year.  I'm sure Tom doesn't expect them to just sit tight with the amount of FA's they have.

If Barkley could be had for a 3rd?  I'm sure they can fit him into the cap somehow.

 
Grahamburn said:
Yes.  His cap hit is certainly steep, but like you said it doesn't really matter.  They did the "we're getting the band back together" thing last year.  I think they need to go beyond that this year.  I'm sure Tom doesn't expect them to just sit tight with the amount of FA's they have.

If Barkley could be had for a 3rd?  I'm sure they can fit him into the cap somehow.
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Man I gotta think with what he’s owed he could be had for a 6th. Nobody has to give a premium pick for him. 
 

Also, if the Bucs are going to lay out that kind of money for a RB why not just bring back Lenny? Can’t imagine Saquon is a better player at this point. 

 
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