taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
They scored 49 points. How bad can the play calling be?
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RB Tony Pollard, TEN (3 Viewers)
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They scored 49 points. How bad can the play calling be?
The play calling involving him.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
They're going to continue to run the ball, that was McCarthy's gripe with Kellen Moore. Although we were scoring points and running copious amounts of Tony Pollard Wheel Routes - it isn't what McCarthy wants. For that reason, I have added Rico Dowdle. It seems like he is better suited for that Zeke role and he was getting some run before the blowout. I can see a 50/50 or 60/40 timeshare looming.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
So Dallas calls terrible plays for Pollard yet otherwise the team scores seven TDs and those plays are pretty good on average?
FairWarning
Footballguy
They are predictable plays to Pollard, while the scoring plays are better, yes. Throwing to Lamb is a big advantage over the defense.
FairWarning
Footballguy
If I have a better option, I may bench him after this week. If he can’t break out vs the Giants and Carolina, when will he?
If we are redrafting tomorrow, where will he go? I’m thinking 4-5th round.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
It seems like he runs the ball up the middle on about 95% of first downs and up the middle again on just about every 3rd and short. So ….yes
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed, although it will probably come from a few big plays off 15-18 touches like last year, not the 20-25 we were banking on coming into the season. That’s obviously a big difference from a future floor perspective.
Maybe even later like 5th or 6th based on his numbers so far this year if he doesn't improve on them.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Yes
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Why would any Breece owner make that trade though??
kutta
Footballguy
I also would.
I own Mostert in dynasty, and I’m not even sure I’d trade him straight up there…
No Breece owner is doing that.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Absolutely. One guy is the focal point of the offense.....one isn't.
To be clear, the trade is Kyler and Pollard for Breece.
I originally offered Saquon and Murray due to the Giants being so bad. He countered with Pollard.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Still yes. Be sure to thank him for taking Kyler off of your hands while you’re at it.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Breece Hall is probably a top 4 RB. I can't believe you're even asking if you should take Breece Hall for Pollard and Murray. Yes, you should. I can't believe the other guy is more willing to give up Breece over Saquon. The Giants with Danny DeVito's kid under center do not look good. I'd say the situations are equally awful and that Breece is a better player at this stage of his career.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Still take the deal. I assume you have a decent QB and Murray is expendable.
Marauder
Footballguy
Assuming it's not SF, I would hurry up and accept it before he sobers up.
MavsXT
Footballguy
In general, Dallas is moving the ball. However, everyone is wondering why Pollard isn’t producing…..It’s a pretty simple answer: they are not using him the same way they did last year. As Bad_Mo2 mentioned…95% of his runs are between the tackles. There have been almost no plays called to get him the ball in space. Ironically, his biggest play came on a scramble from Dak when he found him over the middle. There have been no screens, no wheel routes, no passes in the flats. They hardly ever run Pollard on sweeps or tosses. Yes, he can run between the tackles, but that‘s not his forte.
TommyKramer9
Footballguy
Just to give y'all an idea of how some are valuing him, I just got Pollard for James Cook
Wow. Thinking of trading Mostert for him. Like Pollard's playoff schedule more than Miami.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I'm hoping Mostert has a big game vs the Raiders and then I can dish him. People want to see him have a big game with Achane back before committing. I agree on playoff schedules. Hoping to see something from Pollard though - he doesn't look like the same player so I'm not sure I can pull the trigger. Has to have positive regression though, right?
Yeah I'm thinking positive regression happens for Pollard. You'd think with Dak on fire it should open things up for him. He's been damn unlucky at the goaline.
Also, Mostert seems like he's running out of gas and he's...volatile...especially with Achane back. Pollard, while unspectacular, could theoretically be a more consistent asset come weeks 15-17.
Of course, if I don't ditch Mostert this week and he goes off, I'll convince myself to hang onto him.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Seems like a decent buy low. When u buy low u want guys whose value can drastically change with one game. Pollard is that guy who has one 150 yard 2 TD game and people forget his bad games. Ha ha. With that reasoning if u own no way u sell. It's bad business. I own zero shares but I'd keep rolling him out. Win or lose id die on that hill. All my opinion of course.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
A big game from Pollard seems very unlikely . He hasn’t scored a TD since week 1 and hasn’t had a big game since week 3. I have to start him this week due to injuries and bye weeks but plan on beaching him after this week. Tough to bench your first round draft pick and admit you are wrong but he’s done so little for weeks.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Yep. In this game you have to pivot quickly. Conditions in the NFL and for individual teams and players change rapidly and waiting around for "regression" usually doesn't work. This is no longer a team that runs much, and when they do they don't do it creatively, and when Pollard gets the ball he looks nothing like his old self, maybe because of his leg injury, maybe for other reasons.
Sure it does. More volume if Rico Suave doesn't play or is limited.
zamboni
Footballguy
Yes, of course it's more volume - I said "much" in that he may not do much with that extra volume or perhaps they go even pass heavier.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I sat Pollard for the first time all year today.
For all that started him today: you’re welcome in advance.
For all that started him today: you’re welcome in advance.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
80 yards and a TD. Hopefully the play calling was okay.
Stud! My faith never wavered.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I wonder if the play calling is still bad…
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Sarcasm here?
I thought he looked great and hope these last two games have "unlocked" him and he'll ball out ROS. Lots of the credit goes to Dak's improved play, but it does seem like TP is hitting the holes just a little faster and able to contort his body to slip through the cracks. On that 10 yard TD run he had, I thought he looked just a little faster and running with more power than earlier this season. The Pollard that we saw the first 10 weeks would have been brought down at the 1, and then we would have seen Rico get the call or Jake Ferguson for a wide open TD off a fake in the corner of the end zone. I'm encouraged. Not sure who people were benching him for yesterday. If you're not going to play him against Washington, then when are you going to play him?
zamboni
Footballguy
That was the mindset for many against the Giants last week - sometimes you get it right, sometimes not.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
100+ and a TD? Naturally, as I faced him in 2 leagues.
I’m changing my team name to “slump buster”.
I’m changing my team name to “slump buster”.
Am I missing something? Yes, he didn't do well against the Giants, but he got 18 week 11 against Carolina. Shouldn't that have given enough confidence to start him again in week 12?
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I said the same thing to my brother while we were watching the game yesterday. Pollard looked quicker than he has for weeks. Maybe he had a nagging ankle or knee that healed?
It's called the threat of the backup taking your snaps.
Or maybe he wasn't fully healthy early on. ?
He read my post and didn't want to disappoint me.
No, its actually better. 6 catches on 6 targets shows that they are being diverse with him. Not alot of yards but forcing defenses to respect the screens.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I really wish Dallas would just hire a few guys from FBG to handle their offense and get Pollard the plays we deserve.
