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RB Ty Johnson, BUF (1 Viewer)

zamboni said:
It was only one game, but this kid looks like a player - showed serious speed and vision. The fact that he was cut by Detroit doesn't mean much given that team's own issues, much like the fact that Gase probably won't play him if Gore is back.

Looking ahead to next year, if there wasn't a new coaching regime ahead with the Jets, I'd say that Johnson could justifiably have a role in this backfield.
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I just traded on waivers KJ from Detroit for Ty.  6th round guy in Ty for a 2nd round guy.  But as you said, Detroit is not known for their greatness in the draft game. Jets are another dumpster fire, but maybe they have figured something out for a change.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
I just traded on waivers KJ from Detroit for Ty.  6th round guy in Ty for a 2nd round guy.  But as you said, Detroit is not known for their greatness in the draft game. Jets are another dumpster fire, but maybe they have figured something out for a change.
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Unfortunately, I wouldn't count on it with the Jets. Gase loves playing his guys, and despite Gore nearing Social Security eligibility, Gase will play him if he's available. Next year all bets are off depending on who takes over.

 
Ty Johnson rushed 11 times for 45 yards in the Jets' Week 17 loss to the Patriots.

Johnson didn’t join the Jets until Week 6 but still made his presence known on a handful of touches, averaging 4.7 yards per carry and rushing for 104 yards in the lone game (Week 13) he came off the bench in place of Frank Gore. New York will likely add a running back this offseason (especially with Adam Gase and Gore both on their way out) but Johnson showed enough to warrant late-round interest just in case he does play an integral role early on. He’ll at least get a fresh start with a new quarterback and coach in 2021.

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I have him rostered in all but one of my leagues. I just have a feeling he’ll eventually be the Jets back to own, at least for this year. 

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Did a few searches, no thread.

He's interesting.

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What I see is a guy with decent burst, comes out of the backfield at 90mph and has good vision.  Plays tough and finishes runs.  The negative... it didn't seem like the Jets were able to give him any space.  He had zero space to run until about 12 highlights in, but he always seemed to get positive yards.  A couple of those plays looked like they were dead at the snap and he still made something out of it.  Dynasty stash for me. 

 
TVT 0 N S T A said:
What I see is a guy with decent burst, comes out of the backfield at 90mph and has good vision.  Plays tough and finishes runs.  The negative... it didn't seem like the Jets were able to give him any space.  He had zero space to run until about 12 highlights in, but he always seemed to get positive yards.  A couple of those plays looked like they were dead at the snap and he still made something out of it.  Dynasty stash for me. 
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The Jets offensive line last year was pretty bad but they added some really good pieces, I expect an improvement.

the Jets’ line has gone from one of the team’s biggest weaknesses to a potential strength.

 
Have him on my watch list but there's no one I would drop right now to pick him up. That might mean I miss out on him but I'll wait and see.

 
JoeJoe88 said:
I have him rostered in all but one of my leagues. I just have a feeling he’ll eventually be the Jets back to own, at least for this year. 
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I’m here. Have been since the first preseason game. 

Tevin Coleman is Tevin Coleman - we know how this goes. He’s inconsistent, gets dinged up, underperforms, then will break a 70+ yard TD out of nowhere. 

Carter is a rookie that’s a little undersized and being worked in as a committee/passing guy for now (it seems).

Completely plausible to me that Johnson is better than both. More consistent than either alternative, still has plenty of speed, plenty of thump, plenty of pass catching ability. Similarly to how we viewed Gase castoffs, Johnson never getting much traction under Patricia carries zero water in my mind. Then he lands with Gase. I challenge any of you to conjure a worse duo to play for as you start your career. 

He feels like their Mostert to me … and that line can mash. 

 
Bracie Smathers said:
The Jets offensive line last year was pretty bad but they added some really good pieces, I expect an improvement.

the Jets’ line has gone from one of the team’s biggest weaknesses to a potential strength.
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The Jets have had a bunch of good linemen the last so many years. Maybe last year was some self defeating moves, but they were an interesting study to me as far as investing in the trenches and failing.  I don't notice that that often. It's usually the way to build.

 
Bri said:
The Jets have had a bunch of good linemen the last so many years. Maybe last year was some self defeating moves, but they were an interesting study to me as far as investing in the trenches and failing.  I don't notice that that often. It's usually the way to build.
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Coaching. Coaching. Coaching. 

Scheme fit, continuity, and coaching make a huge difference on an OL. I think that line with Becton and Vera-Tucker on the left side is going to blast some huge holes.

They don’t need to be elite for Johnson to be productive - we don’t need 2018-19 Cowboys. 

 
I think maybe the two letter Ty and common Johnson hindered your search. The search here can be frustrating for sure.

Anywho, if I can summarize. He was a guy a lot of Lions fans pegged as a 'give him time' type player. 

He's both due to show what he's got and almost running out of time. 

His problem in my opinion is shaking off hits and avoiding. He's a good looking back that would always go down too easily.

There were a lot of good reports from camp. I think that prob was more mental than ability like if he has some confidence, he'll quickly overcome that.

He's as good a later round pick as any and interesting

 
Couldn't stick with THE LIONS.  Follow him on Instagram so you can watch him pull cars with chains.  Otherwise wouldn't bother.

 
MiniBears said:
Couldn't stick with THE LIONS.  Follow him on Instagram so you can watch him pull cars with chains.  Otherwise wouldn't bother.
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We’re holding that against him? Matt Patricia’s lions?

Again the Mostert comparisons, but he was cut by: Miami, Cleveland, Baltimore, Chicago, and spent a year in SF with only six carries followed by a year with only 34 carries. 

Then he exploded. 

 
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I have had him in 5/5 dynasty leagues since June. The main appeal was he was free, is fast, and his main competition was a day 3 rookie pick.

I'm kind of excited for how his role has developed over the summer. But I still see this as most likely a messy rbbc. 

 
I have him as a $1 dart throw from my last auction. I think the Jets will be better than most expect, so the potential to evolve into a usable option exists if he can separate from Coleman. 

 
I was telling some of you about him and got pushback. I’m stunned the Jets didn’t sign a cut RB yet. Gallman would have been a good way to go. 

 
rockaction said:
I was telling some of you about him and got pushback. I’m stunned the Jets didn’t sign a cut RB yet. Gallman would have been a good way to go. 
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Gallman wasn’t with the Niners last season when Saleh, etc. were there.

I think they go into season with the guys they have - and I like Johnson the best of all of them.

 
rockaction said:
I was telling some of you about him and got pushback. I’m stunned the Jets didn’t sign a cut RB yet. Gallman would have been a good way to go. 
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You are the reason I own him universally. I would have completely dismissed the first preseason game, but he just looked different and then the beat writers started the hype train. 

Thank you. 

 
JFS171 said:
You are the reason I own him universally. I would have completely dismissed the first preseason game, but he just looked different and then the beat writers started the hype train. 

Thank you. 
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no sweat. Let’s see if he holds the job. 

 
I haven't seen more than some of his highlights, but I definitely see a guy with good burst, lots of top end speed, and a decent ability to slip through cracks/find holes.  Plus he was super cheap in my dynasty auction, so I picked him up and gave him a three-year contract (our max is four years).  Hoping he turns into a nice asset and wouldn't be surprised if he's the lead back this year for the Jets.

 
Potential to be James Robinson this year and is completely free. You are hard throwing if you don't take him with your last pick for a potential rb1 for the jets.

 
MiniBears said:
Couldn't stick with THE LIONS.  Follow him on Instagram so you can watch him pull cars with chains.  Otherwise wouldn't bother.
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I was quite mad when the Lions let him go. Quinn and Patricia were such morons. It was like their goal was to build the slowest NFL team in the league. Ty flashed almost every time he touched the ball with the Lions. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Sometimes it takes rookies a little while to get up to speed and gain the confidences of the staff. 
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So people are high on a player with questionable ability because he might get limited touches in a committee?

I still don't get it.

 
TripItUp said:
So people are high on a player with questionable ability because he might get limited touches in a committee?

I still don't get it.
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I don't think people are high on Ty. It's more about his value. He is going around RB 57 after Carter and Coleman. So if the last RB in a backfield is listed as the starter and is the fastest, it is going to create some interest. If he was going where Carter is, I would have no interest in Ty. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I don't think people are high on Ty. It's more about his value. He is going around RB 57 after Carter and Coleman. So if the last RB in a backfield is listed as the starter and is the fastest, it is going to create some interest. If he was going where Carter is, I would have no interest in Ty. 
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That's fair...just needed some perspective here.  This guy gets more Shark Pool action than Stevenson, and Stevenson is a legit league winner...just find it odd.

 
TripItUp said:
That's fair...just needed some perspective here.  This guy gets more Shark Pool action than Stevenson, and Stevenson is a legit league winner...just find it odd.
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Well yes. Johnson has a chance to start the season as the rb1 for the jets and is free. Worth a dart throw to start the season and watch it play out. If he gets 15-20 touches week one his price shoots up 

 
His ADP is like 50 picks after Stevenson so I think that's the appeal. He is basically free. I added him off waivers after the draft in my 12 teamer. We are all looking for any kind of edge out there and at this point in the summer, there are very few left. 

 
TripItUp said:
So people are high on a player with questionable ability because he might get limited touches in a committee?

I still don't get it.
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You just described Stevenson. Lots of people have questioned his ability out of college. It was preseason. Chris Warren III gained about three hundred yards three preseasons ago.

Stevenson is of questionable ability in a committee.

That said, he's still going way higher than Johnson, and probably should. Probably.

 
I took him in all my 10 man leagues and looking to take him in my last 12 man league. Definitely not a deep league thing.

 
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TripItUp said:
I see Stevenson as 10X more talented with 10X the opportunity.   

But I get it, in super deep leagues you are looking for guys that might provide some depth or RB chances...maybe even best balls.
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Why are you speculating BB bucks his 15+ year trend of fantasy FB roulette for his RBs? I haven't been able to watch either play yet, but I see Johnson has had two games getting reps with the starters. Has Stevenson gotten reps with the starters? 

 
TripItUp said:
I see Stevenson as 10X more talented with 10X the opportunity.   

But I get it, in super deep leagues you are looking for guys that might provide some depth or RB chances...maybe even best balls.
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My 2 cents

It's all good man, I don't play in any deep, never mind super deep dynasty leagues (all fpc & dfwc), but I own Johnson in redraft\bb and dynasty almost everywhere. What is not to like? He looked good in DET and in NY and up until recently he has been pretty much free. While other owners were taking Carter in the 6th-7th rds (dynasty & redraft) some of us have been taking Johnson in the 18-19th rds. Carter is a 4th rd pick who has trouble pass blocking (so better for dyn, but maybe not so much this yr imho) and Coleman is meh. Jets look like they will struggle on def and potentially be much better on offense now. I see a big neon sleeper sign flashing over Johnson. Even if it doesn't work out those who took a shot on him haven't lost much draft capital and can easily move on.

As far as Stevenson goes, he has looked good (im thinking Blount with hands) and I definitely like his dynasty prospects. However, at least for this yr he will likely need a Harris inj to become startable.  

 
cloppbeast said:
There is a school of thought which takes a more pragmatic consideration of who has more talent. An adherent might come to the conclusion any of these backs might be the best.
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Dont' want to turn this into the Stevenson trend, but for many reasons I think Stevenson can buck the NE RB trend.

 
NE_REVIVAL said:
My 2 cents

It's all good man, I don't play in any deep, never mind super deep dynasty leagues (all fpc & dfwc), but I own Johnson in redraft\bb and dynasty almost everywhere. What is not to like? He looked good in DET and in NY and up until recently he has been pretty much free. While other owners were taking Carter in the 6th-7th rds (dynasty & redraft) some of us have been taking Johnson in the 18-19th rds. Carter is a 4th rd pick who has trouble pass blocking (so better for dyn, but maybe not so much this yr imho) and Coleman is meh. Jets look like they will struggle on def and potentially be much better on offense now. I see a big neon sleeper sign flashing over Johnson. Even if it doesn't work out those who took a shot on him haven't lost much draft capital and can easily move on.

As far as Stevenson goes, he has looked good (im thinking Blount with hands) and I definitely like his dynasty prospects. However, at least for this yr he will likely need a Harris inj to become startable.  
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Fair enough, differences of opinions can exist.

I'm on the side that doesn't think Johnson is worthy of a standard league roster spot, some in this thread are...nothing wrong with that.

 
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