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RB Ty'son Williams, BAL (1 Viewer)

The TD was great but the use in the passing game may be even bigger if it continues. Not something we see very much from Ravens RBs.

 
Was really hoping for a game like this….have him in all my leagues and certainly could be a game changer.  Perfect offense and has a bunch of stiffs a year from retirement as his competition.  If he could pop and show that speed that’s a difference maker.

 
I'd trade him after this game if it was me. 

He's facing the Raiders and Murray is better than Bell/Freeman. He's a threat.

 
eoMMan said:
I'd trade him after this game if it was me. 

He's facing the Raiders and Murray is better than Bell/Freeman. He's a threat.
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For who?  Who’s going to give you starting RB value on one of the best run offenses after one game?  To me, you only trade him if you think it’s a flash in the pan or that he’ll lose his job and I don’t think either of those are the case.  

What I’m likely looking to do is package more proven players in a package for an upgrade at a position.   Those trades are much easier….certainly more risk if Williams flames out as you trade depth but if you can make a move like that early in the year you can roll….

 
1st half stats:

Williams 7 carries, 64 yards, TD on 4th and 1

Murray 3 carries, 0 yards, stuffed on 4th and 1

 
I am a Williams hopeful but despite the poor showing so far by Murray I'm not sure he is dead yet.  My hope is Williams just continues to shine and then Murray can take his backup role and everyone is happy.

 
Jamesinaz said:
I am a Williams hopeful but despite the poor showing so far by Murray I'm not sure he is dead yet.  My hope is Williams just continues to shine and then Murray can take his backup role and everyone is happy.
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Of course not but Williams was a complete unknown as he never had an NFL carry but now we’re seeing the two side by side and Murray can be a reliable veteran but he can’t show the speed that Williams has and that’s the difference maker.

 
Banger said:
Of course not but Williams was a complete unknown as he never had an NFL carry but now we’re seeing the two side by side and Murray can be a reliable veteran but he can’t show the speed that Williams has and that’s the difference maker.
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Yes, I see a difference.  So long as Williams shows ball protection and doesn't miss an important block on a blitz he sure seems like the guy they want. 

 
Williams looks FAST!!!! Like shot out of a cannon fast. Latavious looks the opposite. 

 
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Banger said:
For who?  Who’s going to give you starting RB value on one of the best run offenses after one game?  To me, you only trade him if you think it’s a flash in the pan or that he’ll lose his job and I don’t think either of those are the case.  

What I’m likely looking to do is package more proven players in a package for an upgrade at a position.   Those trades are much easier….certainly more risk if Williams flames out as you trade depth but if you can make a move like that early in the year you can roll….
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Whatever you can get for him...

Maybe a Corey Davis?

Maybe a Justin Fields or Trey Lance?

With Mostert out 8 weeks or so maybe Mitchell (would want to know what happened to Sermon though first)?

There's guys out there. Be creative. Williams was essentially a free pick. Take advantage of it and turn it in to something. 

 
eoMMan said:
Whatever you can get for him...

Maybe a Corey Davis?

Maybe a Justin Fields or Trey Lance?

With Mostert out 8 weeks or so maybe Mitchell (would want to know what happened to Sermon though first)?

There's guys out there. Be creative. Williams was essentially a free pick. Take advantage of it and turn it in to something. 
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But don’t give it away…..why move him if you’re going to get those guys?  In the rankings next week against the Chiefs Williams will be a top 15-20 back…why give that away for WR35…unless you think he’s at his peak and won’t get the touches again.  

 
eoMMan said:
Whatever you can get for him...

Maybe a Corey Davis?

Maybe a Justin Fields or Trey Lance?

With Mostert out 8 weeks or so maybe Mitchell (would want to know what happened to Sermon though first)?

There's guys out there. Be creative. Williams was essentially a free pick. Take advantage of it and turn it in to something. 
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I’ve been offered Cortland Sutton mid game right after he scored that TD.

 
Banger said:
But don’t give it away…..why move him if you’re going to get those guys?  In the rankings next week against the Chiefs Williams will be a top 15-20 back…why give that away for WR35…unless you think he’s at his peak and won’t get the touches again.  
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Listen, I understand you're excited about him but let's think about this...

1. It's his first NFL game.

2. Played for 3 different colleges. 

3. Was an undrafted free agent.

4. Looks great...facing the Raiders.

5. Murray will get his carries. Even if it's not a ton of carries, will Murray get the goal line carries?

Not saying Williams can't be a decent running back but sometimes a bird in the hand or a lizard chilling in the bush or however that expression goes. 

Buy low, sell high.

 
eoMMan said:
Listen, I understand you're excited about him but let's think about this...

1. It's his first NFL game.

2. Played for 3 different colleges. 

3. Was an undrafted free agent.

4. Looks great...facing the Raiders.

5. Murray will get his carries. Even if it's not a ton of carries, will Murray get the goal line carries?

Not saying Williams can't be a decent running back but sometimes a bird in the hand or a lizard chilling in the bush or however that expression goes. 

Buy low, sell high.
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Sell high being the optimal part of the equation.

 
Why didn't Baltimore get Williams the ball? Dumb moves and then Lamar fumble trying to do too much. Get Williams in space. Now they are tied. 

 
Seems clear that there will still be a "Gus Edwards" role in this offense. Or, at least, they're going to try to make it happen with someone. Right now that someone is Murray, but with how ineffective he has been, maybe that role goes away.

 
mcintyre1 said:
Seems clear that there will still be a "Gus Edwards" role in this offense. Or, at least, they're going to try to make it happen with someone. Right now that someone is Murray, but with how ineffective he has been, maybe that role goes away.
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Murray is slower Gus minus the power. 

 
Is it just me or does he not really know how to handle the read option with Lamaar. Seems like They have had issues on that play. 

 
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