RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

[SameSongNDance]

He hasn't started since week 8 before their bye. This isn't new news.

 

[steveski]

Hoping for a trade this offseason although it's very unlikely. Norv clearly doesn't know how to get creative with a guy like him.

 

[Faust]

Cordarrelle Patterson benched for Charles Johnson

 

[Soulfly3]

He hasn't started since week 8 before their bye. This isn't new news.

Im not a Vikes homer...

Just reacting to ttoday's reports.

 

[lod01]

Hoping for a trade this offseason although it's very unlikely. Norv clearly doesn't know how to get creative with a guy like him.

Pretty sure Norv knows who sucks and who has potential.

Charles Johnson yeah baby!

 

[irish eyes]

Hoping for a trade this offseason although it's very unlikely. Norv clearly doesn't know how to get creative with a guy like him.

Maybe the slug should actually learn how to play wr.

 

[steveski]

Hoping for a trade this offseason although it's very unlikely. Norv clearly doesn't know how to get creative with a guy like him.

Pretty sure Norv knows who sucks and who has potential.

Charles Johnson yeah baby!

I also own Johnson so I'm happy to see he's getting playing time. If he turns into anything at all then everybody in the Browns organization should be fired. They have horrible WR's and they just let him walk.

Saying Patterson sucks is just a dumb statement. He's raw as a WR and his route running is poor, but he doesn't suck. He's one of the most gifted players with the ball in his hands in the entire league.

Hoping for a trade this offseason although it's very unlikely. Norv clearly doesn't know how to get creative with a guy like him.

Maybe the slug should actually learn how to play wr.

Yes he needs to learn how to be a more complete WR, but you'd think Norv would see what Patterson did with the ball in his hands at the end of last year and think to maybe call some of those plays again? They lost their star RB and now have a committee of a physical freak QB converted to a RB and Asiata who is a plodder. They don't have very gifted WR's and have a rookie QB. Throwing screen passes or handing the ball off to Patterson seems like something worth trying, doesn't it?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Hoping for a trade this offseason although it's very unlikely. Norv clearly doesn't know how to get creative with a guy like him.

Maybe the slug should actually learn how to play wr.

Yes he needs to learn how to be a more complete WR, but you'd think Norv would see what Patterson did with the ball in his hands at the end of last year and think to maybe call some of those plays again? They lost their star RB and now have a committee of a physical freak QB converted to a RB and Asiata who is a plodder. They don't have very gifted WR's and have a rookie QB. Throwing screen passes or handing the ball off to Patterson seems like something worth trying, doesn't it?

It was weird seeing Johnson get the start last week and then almost immediately get a couple of WR screens thrown his way.

Still blows my mind why they never just put the ball out there into Patterson's hands, especially on the plays where the DBs were lined up way off.

 

[Faust]

Cordarrelle Patterson not in the doghouse, Vikings say

 

[Jack White]

Cordarrelle Patterson is still alive?

 

[zamboni]

Trying to think of guys in the past that also had mad raw skills, struggled mightily for a couple of years, and then emerged - but not coming up with any.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Trying to think of guys in the past that also had mad raw skills, struggled mightily for a couple of years, and then emerged - but not coming up with any.

Vincent Jackson. Brian Quick was in the process this year before he went on IR. He's white and therefore never gets recognition for his physical skills, but Jordy Nelson is a hell of an athlete, too. Just a few off the top of my head.

 

[zamboni]

Trying to think of guys in the past that also had mad raw skills, struggled mightily for a couple of years, and then emerged - but not coming up with any.

Vincent Jackson. Brian Quick was in the process this year before he went on IR. He's white and therefore never gets recognition for his physical skills, but Jordy Nelson is a hell of an athlete, too. Just a few off the top of my head.

My bad - may not have been that clear. I was thinking more so of guys that were given the opportunity, struggled because they were viewed as poor route runners, had bad hands, etc., and then somehow overcame them.

For VJ and Quick, I think it was more of a chance of paying their dues with guys ahead of them, and then took advantage once the opportunity was presented.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Trying to think of guys in the past that also had mad raw skills, struggled mightily for a couple of years, and then emerged - but not coming up with any.

Vincent Jackson. Brian Quick was in the process this year before he went on IR. He's white and therefore never gets recognition for his physical skills, but Jordy Nelson is a hell of an athlete, too. Just a few off the top of my head.

My bad - may not have been that clear. I was thinking more so of guys that were given the opportunity, struggled because they were viewed as poor route runners, had bad hands, etc., and then somehow overcame them.

For VJ and Quick, I think it was more of a chance of paying their dues with guys ahead of them, and then took advantage once the opportunity was presented.

Both Jackson and Quick were suuuuuuuper raw coming into the league. Both were athletic phenoms selected in the second round out of tiny football programs, (University of Northern Colorado and Appalachian State), and widely viewed as long-term projects when they were taken. Lots of similarities to Patterson, who only really had one season and 46 receptions at the Division 1 level and was considered the rawest of the top prospects in the 2013 class. Really, the biggest aberration might have been last year's season-ending run, not everything else that happened around it.

 

[Manster]

Patterson needs to get on another team. Yea some of his non-production is his own fault, but come one man! This dude is a playmaker. Get the ####### ball in his hands!

 

[Gvindy]

Route running and hands are below average. Guys like Jarvis Landry and Stedman Bailey are making an impact with these 2 skills. Combine results are not everything. I have a feeling Cpat's confidence is in the tubes also regarding his recent demotion also. He'll have to work hard in the offseason.

 

[discountdoublecheck]

Patterson complients Bridgwater's skill set perfectly. Teddy is great at hitting WRs in stride on short timing routes. This is a developing player that has a bright future in MIN. Randall Cobb started out as just a great kick returner as well. I'd buy him in dynasty while his value is down.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Charles Johnson coming in to play the X might end up being a huge blessing in disguise for Patterson if it pushes him into the Z or slot. Both are better fits for his current skill set, IMO.

 

[Biabreakable]

This is how Patterson ended the season.

In the post game press conference (at the end) Head Coach Mike Zimmer said that he has a plan for Patterson this offseason. Hopefully it will work. But thats on Cordarrelle.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

 

[doowain]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

You are confusing floor with ceiling.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

You are confusing floor with ceiling.

I'm not. What had Patterson done, in year 2, to say his ceiling is higher? He's regressed week to week.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

You are confusing floor with ceiling.

I'm not. What had Patterson done, in year 2, to say his ceiling is higher? He's regressed week to week.

See 2013.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

You are confusing floor with ceiling.

I'm not. What had Patterson done, in year 2, to say his ceiling is higher? He's regressed week to week.

See 2013.

When Moreno was good? This stuff changes in the blink or an eye as you know.

 

[Maelstrom]

This is how Patterson ended the season.

In the post game press conference (at the end) Head Coach Mike Zimmer said that he has a plan for Patterson this offseason. Hopefully it will work. But thats on Cordarrelle.

In the press conference, Zimmer had a really long pause before he went on to say he had a plan. He started to say more, and then said, "I'll just leave it at that, its up to him". I hope having a bad season helps Patterson put in a ton of effort this offseason on improving his game. I'm worried that he likes to have fun more than he wants to play football, and that he's never had to put in the hard work to improve because he's always been a better athlete than most of the players on the field until the NFL. But I also hope I'm wrong and that he is just raw, as was said when he was drafted, and that he takes some big steps forward in year 3.

Oh, and to address regression - I don't think he really regressed. Zimmer/Norv just didn't keep him in for the gimmicky plays that Frazier was running him out for. At the end of his rookie season, a lot of his big plays where designed plays for him that covered up his weaknesses as a WR. The Vikings coaches could continue to do that, but that doesn't help him to grow into a good WR. You could argue they should do that because it could help them win games, and they did still send him out from time to time for some of those plays. Just not nearly as much as the previous regime.

 

[mr roboto]

Patterson has the higher ceiling from a pure talent standpoint. But Johnson is built like a true WR1 and already shows more route ability. I hope Patterson envelops and it's probably better for him to not need to start games.

 

[Buffaloes]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

You are confusing floor with ceiling.

I'm not. What had Patterson done, in year 2, to say his ceiling is higher? He's regressed week to week.

See 2013.

When Moreno was good? This stuff changes in the blink or an eye as you know.

Knowshon? what does a guy who plays a completely different position, switched teams, and was put on IR have to do with this conversation? Patterson has showed gamebreaking talent and I agree his ceiling is higher than Johnson's. Prototypical boom/bust player.

 

[Peyton Marino]

ORIGINAL POST

I like him. Breaks tackles, has speed, and catches the ball with his hands.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjxkQXlCAfE

Damn, what a SWEET youtube video of some scrub's highlights from college. PIN IT

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dynasty or keeper has to be thinking Johnson as the man there.

He is only signed through 2015

I know but he seems to have a much higher ceiling then Patterson at this point.

You are confusing floor with ceiling.

I'm not. What had Patterson done, in year 2, to say his ceiling is higher? He's regressed week to week.

See 2013.

When Moreno was good? This stuff changes in the blink or an eye as you know.

Knowshon? what does a guy who plays a completely different position, switched teams, and was put on IR have to do with this conversation? Patterson has showed gamebreaking talent and I agree his ceiling is higher than Johnson's. Prototypical boom/bust player.

You missed the point. By a lot.

 

[Eminence]

In a Dynasty, I traded him away for Vernon Davis mid-season. I have Vernon Davis and Martellus Bennet at TE. I'm considering reacquiring Coraderelle Patterson. If the lightbulb ever turns on for this guy, he can produce like a machine. I would be very happy if both he and this Charles Johnson guy produce.

Rudolph is good for some RZ touchdowns but I wouldn't count on yardage. A healthy Adrian Peterson changes the entire dynamic of this Offense. Honestly I think a coaching staff is dumb to not design at least one end-around or rushing play for Cordarelle Patterson a game. I've seen the plays he can make, in the elements (such as snow) he can make even more bizarre plays.


Roddy White was a late bloomer (and at one point, Brandon Lloyd helped someone to a Fantasy Championship). So I'm not giving up hope on him just yet. I'd only consider rostering him in Return Yardage leagues. But I would keep a very close eye on him. I think the upside we were all gushing about before the season starts is still there and we just need to be patient and hope the Coaching staff gets through to him. His price has got to be Tavon Austin cheap at this point.

 

[Louche]

His price has got to be Tavon Austin cheap at this point.

He was going in the mid 2nd in dynasty start-ups this past summer. People rarely dump players that were valued so high less than a year ago. I think it will still be difficult to get him at a sensible price this offseason.

 

[Faust]

Mike Zimmer plans instructor for Cordarrelle Patterson:

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/11992/mike-zimmer-plans-instructor-for-cordarrelle-patterson

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

I haven't seen anything stating CP is the Vikings' WR1. Only that he will "be showcased" and "has figured out how to be a pro". Am I wrong about this? Please show me where the Vikings said "He's our top WR" or "he's our #1 WR". I'd like to see that.

Here's the most direct suggestion I've read on "Patterson is the #1". Agree or parse at your discretion:

Greg Jennings hands No. 1 receiver baton to Cordarrelle Patterson

Posted by Michael David Smith on June 23, 2014, 9:31 AM EDT

AP

Last year Greg Jennings led the Vikings with 68 catches and 804 receiving yards. This year, if all goes according to plan, it will beCordarrelle Patterson who serves as the teams top receiver. And Jennings welcomes that.

Jennings told ESPN.com that after talking with head coach Mike Zimmer and offensive coordinator Norv Turner, he could see that the new coaching staff wants to make the talented Patterson the focal point of the passing game. Rather than grousing about having fewer passes thrown his way this year, Jennings has taken it upon himself to impress on Patterson that he needs to be ready to take a big step up in his second season.

I wanted him to know that, coming in, the expectation of you is no longer rookie.Its, You gotta go. We saw what you can do. Were gonna showcase this, Jennings said. For me, it was making sure that he understands that he has to be a professional. He has to be a pros pro when he steps foot in this building, because were expecting [him] to give us what weve seen you put out there.

Patterson wasnt always the most consistent player as a rookie, but he was dynamite with the ball in his hands: Among his touchdowns were a 79-yard reception, runs of 33, 35 and 50 yards, and kickoff returns of 105 and 109 yards. Jennings said Patterson needs to be given more opportunities to do that.

Im going to be honest: Once I saw him make a couple plays, Im like, Weve got to get him the ball. He does too much well for us not to get him the ball, Jennings said.

It could be said that more passes thrown to Patterson will mean fewer for Jennings, but Jennings isnt worried about that.

If Im having success, its going to open up the door for success for other guys, Jennings said. If Cordarrelles having success, its going to open up the door for a lot of other guys, as well.

Pattersons success (or lack thereof) will be a major part of the Vikings success (or lack thereof), and Jennings knows that part of his role as the veteran in the receiving corps is to pave the way for Patterson to take his place as the No. 1 receiver.

Apparently you stopped reading any post that don't agree with you a long time ago. You asked for this, got it and then chose to ignore it. I'm well aware there are people who believe Jennings is to still the WR1. Funny that Jennings doesn't seem to think he is, no?I never said that Patterson would equal his YPR from last year. I predicted a nice drop, actually.

You keep saying that Patterson doesn't have down field skills but isn't simply isn't true. He does and flashed those skills latest season as well as in college. He needs refining on his downfield route running. There is a difference.

You want to bet on 1200/11 as if it this the baseline we are talking about. I just flat out told you in that post that I fully acknowledge I/we are being optimistic. You are creating a stawman here.

If he really wanted to make a bet and put his balls on the line, he wouldn't set the over/under this high. Happy to bet someone $50 on CP having 1200 total yards and 8.

I didn't set the numbers. Did you read the previous posts?I will happily take your bet (no return yards), because he will not get 1200 yards my friend.

No return yards needed. You have a deal.

He's going to need to pick up the pace significantly or this will be a landslide win and mail it in finish.

JPeso, I accept PayPal. PM me for my email.

 

[Touchdown There]

JPeso knows how to spot raw talent, just not football players. Big difference.

 

[Faust]

2015 an important year for Cordarrelle Patterson

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

JPeso knows how to spot raw talent, just not football players. Big difference.

JPeso is a stand up cat. Paid his bet, and promptly I might add.

 

[Biabreakable]

Film Snapshot: Cordarrelle Patterson

 

[Biabreakable]

RUMOR: Troy Brown The Guy Mentoring Cordarrelle Patterson

 

[Mister CIA]

RUMOR: Troy Brown The Guy Mentoring Cordarrelle Patterson

I would have guessed Troy Williamson.

 

[Biabreakable]

RUMOR: Cordarrelle Patterson on Trade Block? Sort Of

 

[Milkman]

At this point it can't get any worse so a trade might not be a bad thing.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Vikings reporter Ben Goessling has "heard before" the team would "think about moving" Cordarrelle Patterson in a trade.

It's no secret Patterson has few friends on Minnesota's coaching staff, continually getting called out by Mike Zimmer last year, and benched by OC Norv Turner. Goessling says a Patterson trade "wouldn't shock me." Patterson has video-game movement skills, but still hasn't learned to run pass patterns and has to be manufactured touches to make any kind of offensive impact.

Source: Ben Goessling on Twitter
Mar 12 - 9:08 PM

 

[beef]

he'll be waiver wire fodder soon.

 

[cstu]

The Miami Herald's Armando Salguero reports Mike Wallace will "likely" be traded to the Vikings.
Salguero reports Wallace has been on the phone with the Vikings for over an hour. After acquiring Kenny Stills earlier Friday, the Dolphins placed Wallace on the trade block for at least the second time this offseason. This time it appears they have found a taker. The Vikings are in need of playmakers around second-year QB Teddy Bridgewater, and Wallace would form a dangerous combination with 2014 revelation Charles Johnson.

Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Mar 13 - 6:47 PM

 

[Faust]

@FFJeffM 5m

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but go get Cordarrelle. There is at least a chance he is gone and his new team will make him work.

@VicTafur 7m

“@kropp24: Mckenzie interested in Cordarelle? Got that Vols connection.” >> don’t think he is getting traded

 

[Chaka]

The Miami Herald's Armando Salguero reports Mike Wallace will "likely" be traded to the Vikings.
Salguero reports Wallace has been on the phone with the Vikings for over an hour. After acquiring Kenny Stills earlier Friday, the Dolphins placed Wallace on the trade block for at least the second time this offseason. This time it appears they have found a taker. The Vikings are in need of playmakers around second-year QB Teddy Bridgewater, and Wallace would form a dangerous combination with 2014 revelation Charles Johnson.

Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Mar 13 - 6:47 PM

Well, that happened in a hurry.

 

[cstu]

@FFJeffM 5m

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but go get Cordarrelle. There is at least a chance he is gone and his new team will make him work.

Yeah, sure, right.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Honestly some team should make Patterson a 3rd down RB. Hand him the ball once in a while and teach him to block.