RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (2 Viewers)

[hamsterdam]

I'm buying TY Montgomery and my patience is waning with A Robinson. All the Sharks went all in on Robinson several weeks ago. He did okay for a couple weeks...always thinking about last years performance. Looking at starting TY over ARob this week and prolly moving forward. I like getting credit for rushes in the WR department. Now, will TY hit paydirt this week? Seems like destiny this week...

ARob not sniffing my lineup again until he shows me something.

 

[TheBottomLine]

ARob not sniffing my lineup again until he shows me something.

Amen to that.  If he blows up, awesome, maybe it's a start of him getting it turned around.  If he sucks, I'll be glad he's on my pine.  Either way, I'm good with it.  I cannot go another week watching him do little to nothing, but obviously it depends who your other options are.  Being a Thursday night game makes it that much easier to bench him. 

 

[ATB]

This happened? that's good stuff if so. best thing Ty can have going for him (besides playing well) is Rodgers trusting him and wanting him on the field

I mean, I know I read it somewhere. I just can't remember where. And I know there was a video but I skipped watching it so can't confirm I've seen it.

 

[massraider]

Anyone who owns Ty Mont, if Don Jackson would not have been injured on his first run do you think Ty would of had as big of a role last game?  I have a gut feeling Knile Davis is going to have a big role going forward. McCarthy jut stated Knile is in the game plan against Atlanta. 

I have a gut feeling no matter what, Montgomery wasn't going to be getting the ball on off tackle stuff all game long on 1st and 10.  

So Knile, Don Whatsisface, whoeva.  

As long as it's a back I am not impressed with, I expect Ty to get some Theo Riddick-type numbers.  I know the players aren't physically similar, but I think their box scores could look similar.  

 

[ATB]

I have a gut feeling no matter what, Montgomery wasn't going to be getting the ball on off tackle stuff all game long on 1st and 10.  

So Knile, Don Whatsisface, whoeva.  

As long as it's a back I am not impressed with, I expect Ty to get some Theo Riddick-type numbers.  I know the players aren't physically similar, but I think their box scores could look similar.  

Pretty sure the Packers don't wanna take him off the field. When they originally drafted him, they were enamored with his ability to lineup anywhere on the field, which they considered as "matchup proof." 

So even if Knile is in, I think TyMo is lined up at WR. 

They'll do anything to get him the ball, depending on defensive matchups. 

He's really the closest thing to fantasy gold as you can find halfway through a season. 

 

[massraider]

We can just call him Ty in this thread, I doubt anyone will confuse him with TY Hilton.  

 

[zftcg]

We can just call him Ty in this thread, I doubt anyone will confuse him with TY Hilton.  

Wait a second. This whole time I thought we were discussing Tyrell Williams. Does this mean I can't use him at RB vs Denver this week?

 

[zftcg]

Pretty sure the Packers don't wanna take him off the field. When they originally drafted him, they were enamored with his ability to lineup anywhere on the field, which they considered as "matchup proof." 

So even if Knile is in, I think TyMo is lined up at WR. 

They'll do anything to get him the ball, depending on defensive matchups. 

He's really the closest thing to fantasy gold as you can find halfway through a season. 

My guess is if they use Davis more, it probably comes at the expense of Cobb. I imagine they'd just as soon not run a ton of gadget plays to the WR they have under long-term contract.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Rotoblurb just said Cobb was "extremely limited" in practice today.  hmmm....

 

[BobbyLayne]

Rotoblurb just said Cobb was "extremely limited" in practice today.  hmmm....

In the reporters opinion based on limited observation. Typically the press gets kicked out after 10-15 minutes & the team issues a practice reporte after they wrapped up. There is no official designation "extremely limited."

 

[cobalt_27]

There is no official designation "extremely limited."

What's at got to do with anything?  Not withstanding the validity of the report, that's a perfectly appropriate observation to make and describe.

 

[Team Smokin']

Packer fans - what are you hearing about Ty's game plan moving forward? I hear that he's not your typical power bruising RB between the tackles and the Packers must find some of this from a Knile Davis type RB just to keep this somewhat normal? I'm starting him in my league this week at WR, and yes love the RB points too! Is this game plan here to stay? Does Rodgers really advocate for him to be on the field?

Oh, btw...sat A Robinson last night for Ty.

 

[Saboo]

I think Montgomery without doubt has value going forward, but not in the traditional sense. I think over the next few weeks he gets 60/40 % of the touches, but loses goal line carries to Davis.

As good as he looked last week, he was a kind of a desperation move for a team that literally had no rb's. 

 

[rascal]

When is starks coming back?

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

How much does this mystery illness worry everyone? Not much is being announced about it. If it's Flu/cold- will dehydration be an issue?

 

[HW_53]

Just saw Ian Rappaport report that Don Jackson would get the start in the Packers backfield Sunday.  This, just as I picked up K.Davis last night after losing CJA...  Can anyone else confirm this?

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

LINK?

 

[The Kerminator]

Packer fans - what are you hearing about Ty's game plan moving forward? I hear that he's not your typical power bruising RB between the tackles and the Packers must find some of this from a Knile Davis type RB just to keep this somewhat normal? I'm starting him in my league this week at WR, and yes love the RB points too! Is this game plan here to stay? Does Rodgers really advocate for him to be on the field?

Oh, btw...sat A Robinson last night for Ty.

As a Packer fan and Montgomery owner I've been following this closely and there has been absolutely zero hints as to what Montgomery's role will be going forward.

 

[JFS171]

Copying this from the Don Jackson thread...

Here's my take on this whole thing (expanding on my brief take last night) -- full disclosure, I own Jackson in every league, and I own Montgomery in most of them (wish I owned him everywhere, and am trying to acquire -- within reason -- prior to Thursday night):

• At the Combine, Ty Montgomery measured 6', 221lbs and ran a 4.55 40.  More impressively (and if you've seen my posts previously about Agility Scores and how they matter), he posted a 6.97 3-cone with a 4.21 short shuttle -- that's a 11.18 Agility Score at 220+ lbs.  For context, compared to 220lb+ backs in his draft class, that agility score is pretty solid. 
  
  Malcolm Brown (224lbs) - 6.86 3-Cone; 4.15 Short Shuttle -- 11.01 Agility Score
  
• David Johnson (224lbs) - 6.82 3-Cone; 4.27 Short Shuttle -- 11.09 Agility Score
  
• Jay Ajayi (221lbs) - 7.10 3-Cone; 4.10 Short Shuttle -- 11.20 Agility Score
  
• Zach Zenner (223lbs) - 7.08 3-Cone; 4.14 Short Shuttle -- 11.22 Agility Score
  
• Buck Allen (221lbs) - 6.96 3-Cone; 4.28 Short Shuttle -- 11.24 Agility Score
  
• TJ Yeldon (226lbs) - 7.19 3-Cone; 4.22 Short Shuttle -- 11.41 Agility Score
  
• Karlos Williams (230lbs) - 7.16 3-Cone; 4.46 Short Shuttle -- 11.62 Agility Score (gross - not his game)
  

[*]Ty Montgomery's draft profile spoke of a guy that could be an excellent RB. 
Montgomery essentially played the Starks role on Sunday afternoon and has a career game.  The commentators on that game mentioned that Aaron Rodgers told them that RB "might be his [Montgomery's] best position."  Starks has kinda sucked all year, but his primary value to the Packers over the last few years has been in the screen game.  Green Bay targets very athletic linemen that can get out on screen plays and block downfield.  Montgomery brought an element of that back last week that's been missing from the offense.  Starks is also out a month, and Lacy could potentially be headed to IR.  Even if Lacy returns in a month, Montgomery's role as the Starks-type back is stable for the next few weeks IMO.  If he shines... well... can't put that genie back in the bottle, as they say.  Starks is averaging 1.8 YPC this year and is 30 years old.  He's not invincible.

[*]Jackson's role in this, IMO, is as the Lacy replacement for the short term.  I don't really know what to expect from Jackson.  I don't think Knile Davis is very good.  The Chiefs obviously don't think he's very good either -- basically selling him for a complete unknown pick in 2 years that may or may not be anything more than a 7th rounder.  He's averaged a whopping 3.3 YPC for his career.  He's not very agile, though he is big and fast.  Can that work in GB?  Truthfully I don't know, but I kinda think we know what we're going to get with Knile Davis.  He'll get what's blocked... that's it.  I almost see him as an emergency guy if Jackson got hurt, or if Montgomery got hut... Davis gives them a warm body at the position so they're not left with going 5 wide the whole time or just playing Ripkowski at RB.

I don't think anything has changed since I said this, except Lacy has been placed on IR and Ty has looked like a major weapon. Maybe he isn't an 80% of the snaps and touches workhorse in the traditional sense, but the Packers offense has looked its best in years with Montgomery in the backfield, and Rodgers loves him. I don't think his role is affected that much by whichever back they use to complement him. 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Just saw Ian Rappaport report that Don Jackson would get the start in the Packers backfield Sunday.  This, just as I picked up K.Davis last night after losing CJA...  Can anyone else confirm this?

Fwiw I just watched Rap report this on nflnetwork. The headline on the screen said "Packers relying on Don Jackson at rb"

He also said Ty and Knile will see playing time

 

[WheelsUp]

This may change everything. I'm sure Monty saw a lot of snaps at RB because Jackson was out. This could be a dud in the making.

 

[eoMMan]

This may change everything. I'm sure Monty saw a lot of snaps at RB because Jackson was out. This could be a dud in the making.

Don't sweat it. Ty will get his touches. He's probably good for at least 4 catches along with a few carries. They will need him in this game.

 

[davearm]

Don't sweat it. Ty will get his touches. He's probably good for at least 4 catches along with a few carries. They will need him in this game.

I agree with you.

But I'm also keenly aware of how Montgomery was used (i.e, not at all) when the Pack had a traditional RB suited up the first 4 games.

Now will they ever reach that point again with Davis, Jackson or Starks in the Lacy role?  Who knows.  It's possible.  But I agree this week probably isn't that point.

 

[sho nuff]

I agree with you.

But I'm also keenly aware of how Montgomery was used (i.e, not at all) when the Pack had a traditional RB suited up the first 4 games.

Now will they ever reach that point again with Davis, Jackson or Starks in the Lacy role?  Who knows.  It's possible.  But I agree this week probably isn't that point.

And the offense sputtered with them not using all of their weapons.

also, even with that traditional RB...Lacy's carries were 14, 12, 17, 11, 17.  Do we think calling Jackson the starter (which they called him last game too and Montgomery was in the backfield at the start) is going to get more work than Lacy did?  Do we think they are going to stop using what has worked well the last 2 games with Montgomery out of the backfield helping to open up Cobb and Adams?

I agree with some that he is not a traditional RB...he is likely not going to get those GL looks running the ball again.  Then again...how many GL looks have GB RBs been getting?  They throw a lot down there and I expect that to continue.  Meaning Montgomery still has value there.

All that said...his value in standard leagues is there...but much more value in PPR.  I have him in standard and have been back and forth between he and Adams.  With all of those touches the last 2 weeks...he has gone for 8.4 and 12.6 points.  TDs would be huge for him.  I think he has the higher floor than Adams...but Adams may have the greater ceiling right now getting so many redzone looks from Rodgers.

Jackson and Davis are not worrying me much as far as Montgomeries value.

 

[Team Smokin']

And the offense sputtered with them not using all of their weapons.

also, even with that traditional RB...Lacy's carries were 14, 12, 17, 11, 17.  Do we think calling Jackson the starter (which they called him last game too and Montgomery was in the backfield at the start) is going to get more work than Lacy did?  Do we think they are going to stop using what has worked well the last 2 games with Montgomery out of the backfield helping to open up Cobb and Adams?

I agree with some that he is not a traditional RB...he is likely not going to get those GL looks running the ball again.  Then again...how many GL looks have GB RBs been getting?  They throw a lot down there and I expect that to continue.  Meaning Montgomery still has value there.

All that said...his value in standard leagues is there...but much more value in PPR.  I have him in standard and have been back and forth between he and Adams.  With all of those touches the last 2 weeks...he has gone for 8.4 and 12.6 points.  TDs would be huge for him.  I think he has the higher floor than Adams...but Adams may have the greater ceiling right now getting so many redzone looks from Rodgers.

Jackson and Davis are not worrying me much as far as Montgomeries value.

My gut, my hope, and I can see the Packers getting Ty into the endzone this week, maybe twice?

 

[thecardiackid]

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[Raiderfan32904]

In the reporters opinion based on limited observation. Typically the press gets kicked out after 10-15 minutes & the team issues a practice reporte after they wrapped up. There is no official designation "extremely limited."

Bump

 

[The Kerminator]

Cobb is out and Montgomery is expected to play

 

[Interseptopus]

sent this to a PM from Chad in Indy, my guy tells me it wasn't the flu and he was still participating.  that's about all I got this week

 

[Pokesfan]

@Rotoworld_FB: Ty Montgomery expected to play Week 8 http://tinyurl.com/jvy3hjy

 

[Interseptopus]

@Rotoworld_FB: Ty Montgomery expected to play Week 8 http://tinyurl.com/jvy3hjy

he looks like such a nice, happy guy. how can anyone sit him.

 

[Team Smokin']

Cobb is out and Montgomery is expected to play

Bump Jordy, Adams, and Ty.

 

[The Kerminator]

Bump Jordy, Adams, and Ty.

I think the main beneficiary will be Adams with more targets. A slight bump for Janis. I don't think it will matter to Montgomery. He's going to get his.

 

[kface]

I wonder if Cobb being out doesn't force the pack to use Davis more than planned in the backfield.

 

[sho nuff]

I wonder if Cobb being out doesn't force the pack to use Davis more than planned in the backfield.

Its a worry...more Montgomery in the slot. Less volume.

Im stil betting he gets plenty of snaps out of the backfield though.

Have him in over Adams now. Monty with a higher floor.  Adams with a higher ceiling due to more TD potential. 

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I wonder if Cobb being out doesn't force the pack to use Davis more than planned in the backfield.

Why Davis?  I was hearing don Jackson was operating as rb

 

[kface]

Why Davis?  I was hearing don Jackson was operating as rb

Because davis is probably light years better than Jackson, even if only at picking up the blocking

Also I would be interested to know where you are reading that. Everything i read this weeks says davis is going to be a part of the game plan

 

[BobbyLayne]

Because davis is probably light years better than Jackson, even if only at picking up the blocking

Also I would be interested to know where you are reading that. Everything i read this weeks says davis is going to be a part of the game plan

Davis has had pass pro issues for years in KC

 

[ATB]

He's apparently OUT this week: https://mobile.twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/792781777320316928

Not sure why I haven't seen this elsewhere. Can anyone confirm????

 

[dblock05]

I just scrambled to pick up a replacement. This is f****** bull***. 

Why did it come out so late

 

[ATB]

Idk, I found this tweet on Reddit and it was tweeted at 10:30am so why was this news not picked up anywhere else????

Im sitting here watching my bench go off and can't replace him now...

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Ridiculous. He's sick enough that he literally can't play after a couple days and we don't even know what it is?

 

[Deamon]

Totally nuts.  Luckily I had Jordy to sub in for him.  But pretty brutal for most owners.  Didn't even hear a peep of this

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Now I've gotta take the risk on Patterson playing tomorrow night I guess. Rough break

 

[Hilts]

Wtf did this come from?? 

 

[CaptainJT]

Is Don Jackson worth a start if Ty Montgomery is out?  The only other options would be Agholor, Dorial Green-Beckham or Kapri Bibbs (already starting Booker). 

 

[sho nuff]

I guess i go with Adams then.

 

[ATB]

WHY IS THERE NO CONFIRMATION!?

 

[ATB]

Contradicting info from ESPN: http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0584439960715662122-4

 

[starks]

If he is out who is the better play Jackson or Davis?