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RB Zamir White, LV (1 Viewer)

nittanylion said:
@Boston

Do you know much about Dwain McFarland and his Utilization Report?

What Faust posted above is posted in a vacuum. It's very worthwhile to search for and check ouj DMcF's content, if you have the opportunity. In the context of his wheelhouse (The Utilization Report), this twitter post is more understandable.

JMHO, but I find him to be one of the most compelling minds in all of FF, and believe me, as invested as I am in National High Stakes Contests, I have thoroughly vetted a great deal of them.
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I'm not familiar with him and I'm sure he does a good job...just can't wrap my head around someone thinking preseason game usage is a big indicator of what will happen in the regular season.
 
Boston said:
nittanylion said:
@Boston

Do you know much about Dwain McFarland and his Utilization Report?

What Faust posted above is posted in a vacuum. It's very worthwhile to search for and check ouj DMcF's content, if you have the opportunity. In the context of his wheelhouse (The Utilization Report), this twitter post is more understandable.

JMHO, but I find him to be one of the most compelling minds in all of FF, and believe me, as invested as I am in National High Stakes Contests, I have thoroughly vetted a great deal of them.
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I'm not familiar with him and I'm sure he does a good job...just can't wrap my head around someone thinking preseason game usage is a big indicator of what will happen in the regular season.
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a guy I know actually ran a correlation analysis between pre season performance and regular season performance. for the most part its terrible. especially for RB.

the correlation is a little better for WR. if a WR lights it up in pre season they will sometimes carry that through to the regular season. but that correlation is generally pretty low too. Not as low as for the other skill positions. there is a statistical correlation for the WR position but not a strong one.

granted it was a one year analysis and I"d be the first guy to say each year is unique. But I've noticed the same thing in the past and just never thought to go and try to prove it with statistics like this guy did.

either way, food for your thoughts
 
Boston said:
dblock05 said:
Dwain McFarland is good as it gets. He has a valid concern along with others. He’s just making you aware of what has happened
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I don't think RB usage in three drives in a preseason game is a valid concern.
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I've been following him for last 2 years and it is worth it if you want to sort out muddied backfields and who is running with the starters and who gets taken out or left in once the starters leave.

It also gives me an idea of who to keep an eye on for early waivers or pick up in my deep dynasty leagues.
 
dblock05 said:
Boston said:
dblock05 said:
Dwain McFarland is good as it gets. He has a valid concern along with others. He’s just making you aware of what has happened
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I don't think RB usage in three drives in a preseason game is a valid concern.
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How often is a RB1 playing in the third quarter of a preseason game? I don’t think it’s an issue for Zamir but it is odd
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Didn't Jacobs one year play nearly the whole game and then he went on to get a full workload that year?
 
Big Nate said:
Boston said:
dblock05 said:
Dwain McFarland is good as it gets. He has a valid concern along with others. He’s just making you aware of what has happened
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I don't think RB usage in three drives in a preseason game is a valid concern.
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I've been following him for last 2 years and it is worth it if you want to sort out muddied backfields and who is running with the starters and who gets taken out or left in once the starters leave.

It also gives me an idea of who to keep an eye on for early waivers or pick up in my deep dynasty leagues.
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Yes, but this isn't a muddied backfield. Don't believe the hype.

Zamir is the starter and will get the bulk of the carries. Mattison is the primary backup and will see significant, but less, action.

Touch distribution in the passing game is a question mark. Marttison has proven to not be dynamic as a runner or receiver. He's serviceable but has the advantage a lot of experience.

Zamir hasn't seen enough targets to really know where he fits in the passing game.

Then there is this Laube kid who may emerge as the Ronnie Harmon of the offense if the camp reports are to be believed. That could render both Zamir & Marttison as relative non-factors in the passing game.
 
Big Nate said:
Didn't Jacobs one year play nearly the whole game and then he went on to get a full workload that year?
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Great memory, and there were some scorching hot takes after that game that looked really stupid by week 2.

Raiders played almost all their starters a TON last week, not just Zamir. And the coaches said that was gonna happen. And the reason is, I am guessing, they have a QB battle, need to see them both with starters. Plus they are among the youngest teams in the league.

This guy might know his stuff about muddy backfields, but this one ain't muddy, and this is a miss.
Chaka said:
Then there is this Laube kid who may emerge as the Ronnie Harmon of the offense if the camp reports are to be believed. That could render both Zamir & Marttison as relative non-factors in the passing game.
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Know what I did NOT read after the game? Laube got almost no work with the starters (Mattison AND Abdullah did however), and hasn't really gotten much play at all.
Maybe they are hiding him, trying to stash him on the PS, but that's a real concern, and no one wants the lil white dude from New Hampshire to make it more than me.

I am guessing we didn't hear about that from the content guys because no one wants to hear it.
 
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we can absolutely be worried about the Raiders’ offense capping Zamir White’s upside

but we shouldn’t be worried about depth piece Alexander Mattison capping it

Antonio Pierce wants to run the hell out of the ball, this is an underrated offensive line when healthy, and their defense should keep them in close games
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Faust said:
The Coachspeak Index
we can absolutely be worried about the Raiders’ offense capping Zamir White’s upside

but we shouldn’t be worried about depth piece Alexander Mattison capping it

Antonio Pierce wants to run the hell out of the ball, this is an underrated offensive line when healthy, and their defense should keep them in close games
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This is my feeling on it as well.

I also heard someone on a fantasy podcast say last week Pierce seems like the kind of coach who won't stop the run even in games that they are very behind in. Pure speculation, but I get the same vibes as well. They don't have a great QB to begin with, and the running game is what opens up the passing game even more for average and below average QBs.
 
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The Coachspeak Index
#Raiders HC Antonio Pierce on Zamir White:

“He's much bigger and he’s still explosive, he’s still in that 4.4 range. When he’s going downhill, it’s gonna hurt. You really wanna see Zamir from carry 15 to 20, 25. That’s when it’s gonna be like, okay, here we go.”
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#Raiders HC Antonio Pierce on Zamir White:

“Zamir came back more physical, more explosive, bigger, stronger, faster. Didn’t get a lot of touches in the preseason — it’s just how it worked out because of the quarterback deal — but he’ll have plenty of opportunities going forward”

Pierce has a 90% reliability rating on usage/workload coachspeak

I’m banking on plenty of opportunities for Zamir White
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Luke Getsy on Zamir White: “You get those critical moments in games and situational football that they’re able to respond. And I don’t think that always necessarily means it has to just be one guy. I think that can be two, can be three. But I think it’s always important to have someone in that room that, you know, is the lead of the room. Not necessarily like the years of the bell cow, 25 carries, 30 carries a game. It’s 17 games. I don’t think anybody’s surviving that anymore. But to be the lead guy when it’s crunch time and you know where you’re going with the football, that guy’s gonna get it done and that’s more important than anything else.”
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