RB's likely to lose their spot atop the depth chart (1 Viewer)

[TheWinz]

Based on FBG's current depth charts, who do you see losing their role as the top dog? I'm talking about losing it based on performance.

ARI - Conner, Benson, Demercado, Carter, Dallas, Knight
ATL - Robinson, Allgeier, Washington, McClellan, Dotson, Carter
BAL - Henry, Hill, Mitchell, Ali, Major, Ntoh
BUF - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Evans, Gore
CAR - Hubbard, Dowdle, Etienne, Brooks, Blackshear, Bailey
CHI - Swift, Johnson, Monangai, Homer, Wheeler
CIN - Brown, Moss, Perine, Brooks, Milton, Brightwell
CLE - Ford, Judkins, Sampson, Strong
DAL - Williams, Sanders, Blue, Mafah, Vaughn
DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson
DET - Gibbs, Montgomery, Reynolds, Vaki
GB - Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd, Brooks, Johnson, White
HOU - Mixon, Pierce, Ogunbowale, Marks, Taylor, Brooks, Jordan
IND - Taylor, Herbert, Giddens, Goodson, Ahmed
JAC - Etienne, Bigsby, Tuten, Robinson, Allen, Jackson
KC - Pacheco, Hunt, Mitchell, Steele, Smith, Ingram, Young
LV - Jeanty, Mostert, McCormick, White, Laube, Collier
LAC - Harris, Hampton, Haskins, Vidal, Patterson, Sanders
LAR - Williams, Corum, Hunter, Rivers, Schrader, Waters
MIA - Achane, Wright, Mattison, Gordon
MIN - Jones, Mason, Chandler, Scott, Stewart
NE - Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, Jennings
NO - Kamara, Miller, Neal, Edwards-Helaire, Mims, Jones, Valladay, Yarns
NYG - Tracy, Singletary, Skattebo, Gray, Miller
NYJ - Hall, Allen, Davis, Nwangwu, Evans
PHI - Barkley, Shipley, Dillon, Williams, Nichols, Powell, Johnson
PIT - Warren, Johnson, Gainwell, Patterson, Ward, Shampklin, Hull
SF - McCaffrey, Guerendo, James, Taylor, Abanikanda
SEA - Walker, Charbonnet, McIntosh, Martinez, Holani, Wright
TB - Irving, White, Tucker, Williams
TEN - Pollard, Spears, Chestnut, Mullings, Small
WAS - Robinson, Ekeler, McNichols, Rodriguez, Croskey-Merritt, Felton, Allen, Wiley

 

[Crippler]

Ford done
Stevenson early in season
Harris to 1B
Etienne will have to fight hard.
McLaughlin is RBBC at best to start season
How long for Warren
Can Conner outlast old man time
Giants will be 3 way RBBC. Avoid now

Tenn, Wash, KC not really address

 

[Max Power]

Aaron Jones looked to be slowing down towards the end of last season. He's 30 now. While he might get the ceremonial "start", I think Mason out touches him on the season.

 

[menobrown]

Ford already lost it.

Javonte Williams. Not even sure he beats out Sanders but if Blue cleans a few things up he probably won't start but he'll make it where it's a competition between Sanders or Williams to find out who complements him. My point is Blue is the guy I expect to lead this backfield in fantasy production, but may never carry designation of starter.

Etienne I see at some point losing his hold on the job.

McCalughlin already lost it.

Tracy-I personally like him more then Skattebo, believe the team prefers to utlize both, but putting my Tracy>Cam feelings aside feel this should be considered 50/50.

Rhamondre-I only put this at 70/30 and think people are burying him to soon and my real prediction is it's going to be way more of a RBBC then people are expecting. Ideally Henderson and him compliment each other IF Rhamondre does not have ball security issues. This guys a good running back who was in a brutal sitaution the last few years but he can't keep fumbling.



Pacheco-it's posslbe but IMO not likely. Put odds in 20-30% range of actually losing the starting/main role. But I think more RB's eat and the days of him being a 3 down workhorse role are over.


Harris already lost though I will keep contending it's going to be more of a RBBC then people think. Kind of similar to how I view Rhamondre/Henderson.

Warren-I won't say he already lost the gig but I'd be surprised, maybe shocked, if Kaleb is not the leading rusher. RBBC.


This list would be super long if I was listing the RB's who I think are looking at more comp/reduced roles but I don't think they actualy lose their status as the main guy.

 

[Payne]

Some obvious ones I believe:
Ford
Harris
McLaughin

Likely:
Etienne
Stevenson
Warren

I think Tracy provides very good value. He was handed the job last year and I don't see that changing.

 

[Scoresman]

Are there usually this many question marks?

I feel like this is the year to grab a Saquon/Gibbs/Henry type early.

 

[menobrown]

BTW not to get off subject but if this is how teams RB's room look heading into the season would it be fair to say D'Andre Swift is the biggest RB winner of the off-season?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The funny thing about these lists is it's almost never who we think.

Last year guys like Conner, Cook, Pollard, Robinson were probably at the top of the list and they all held strong.

Meanwhile Etienne was a lock-in top 5 RB. Rachaad White was top 10 with seemingly a pretty good hold. Both thrown to the fantasy scrap-heaps now.

I think guys like Kyren Williams, James Cook, De'Von Achane could be darkhorse candidates this year. Kenneth Walker too but I think he'd be less of a surprise.

 

[travdogg]

BTW not to get off subject but if this is how teams RB's room look heading into the season would it be fair to say D'Andre Swift is the biggest RB winner of the off-season?

Probably him or Brian Robinson

As an aside, I think Travis Etienne is being underrated. He was banged up a lot last year, but he's still pretty young, and the Jags offense should be better with Coen/Hunter. I don't view Tuten and Bigsby as anything special, Etienne has shown he can be a difference maker previously. He's an RB3 target for me.

 

[menobrown]

BTW not to get off subject but if this is how teams RB's room look heading into the season would it be fair to say D'Andre Swift is the biggest RB winner of the off-season?

Probably him or Brian Robinson

Which ironically enough I saw a Washington beat writer yesterday speculate on Robinson being a trade candidate for the Bears due to need and Beiniemy connection. But that seemed more like a connect the dot guess then intel.

Either way I guess that would be good for Robinson.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson

Ourlads already has Harvey as the Denver #1, I tend to agree with them. Seems like a good landing spot for him.

 

[IHEARTFF]

The funny thing about these lists is it's almost never who we think.

Last year guys like Conner, Cook, Pollard, Robinson were probably at the top of the list and they all held strong.

Meanwhile Etienne was a lock-in top 5 RB. Rachaad White was top 10 with seemingly a pretty good hold. Both thrown to the fantasy scrap-heaps now.

I think guys like Kyren Williams, James Cook, De'Von Achane could be darkhorse candidates this year. Kenneth Walker too but I think he'd be less of a surprise.

I was thinking/wondering more about the unexpected guys.

Kyren is a good, unexpected choice. Walker is a possible dark horse. I'd have to squint pretty hard to see Cook or Achane.

Kinda boring but Aaron Jones, Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon are some vets that might get overtaken although I'm not crazy bullish on who is behind them.

 

[LawFitz]

ARI - Conner, Benson, Demercado, Carter, Dallas, Knight
ATL - Robinson, Allgeier, Washington, McClellan, Dotson, Carter
BAL - Henry, Hill, Mitchell, Ali, Major, Ntoh
BUF - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Evans, Gore
CAR - Hubbard, Dowdle, Etienne, Brooks, Blackshear, Bailey
CHI - Swift, Johnson, Monangai, Homer, Wheeler
CIN - Brown, Moss, Perine, Brooks, Milton, Brightwell
CLE - Ford, Judkins, Sampson, Strong
DAL - Williams, Sanders, Blue, Mafah, Vaughn
DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson
DET - Gibbs, Montgomery, Reynolds, Vaki
GB - Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd, Brooks, Johnson, White
HOU - Mixon, Pierce, Ogunbowale, Marks, Taylor, Brooks, Jordan
IND - Taylor, Herbert, Giddens, Goodson, Ahmed
JAC - Etienne, Bigsby, Tuten, Robinson, Allen, Jackson
KC - Pacheco, Hunt, Mitchell, Steele, Smith, Ingram, Young
LV - Jeanty, Mostert, McCormick, White, Laube, Collier
LAC - Harris, Hampton, Haskins, Vidal, Patterson, Sanders
LAR - Williams, Corum, Hunter, Rivers, Schrader, Waters
MIA - Achane, Wright, Mattison, Gordon
MIN - Jones, Mason, Chandler, Scott, Stewart
NE - Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, Jennings
NO - Kamara, Miller, Neal, Edwards-Helaire, Mims, Jones, Valladay, Yarns
NYG - Tracy, Singletary, Skattebo, Gray, Miller
NYJ - Hall, Allen, Davis, Nwangwu, Evans
PHI - Barkley, Shipley, Dillon, Williams, Nichols, Powell, Johnson
PIT - Warren, Johnson, Gainwell, Patterson, Ward, Shampklin, Hull
SF - McCaffrey, Guerendo, James, Taylor, Abanikanda
SEA - Walker, Charbonnet, McIntosh, Martinez, Holani, Wright
TB - Irving, White, Tucker, Williams
TEN - Pollard, Spears, Chestnut, Mullings, Small
WAS - Robinson, Ekeler, McNichols, Rodriguez, Croskey-Merritt, Felton, Allen, Wiley

:ear to the ground: :hand on the wire:

 

[IHEARTFF]

I guess we need to consider a Conner/Benson change is coming at some point

I'll be right back, let me go show these depth charts to my leagues and offer starting RBs Jaleel McLaughlin, Jerome Ford, and Jalen Warren in some trades

 

[Joe Bryant]

Based on FBG's current depth charts, who do you see losing their role as the top dog? I'm talking about losing it based on performance.

ARI - Conner, Benson, Demercado, Carter, Dallas, Knight
ATL - Robinson, Allgeier, Washington, McClellan, Dotson, Carter
BAL - Henry, Hill, Mitchell, Ali, Major, Ntoh
BUF - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Evans, Gore
CAR - Hubbard, Dowdle, Etienne, Brooks, Blackshear, Bailey
CHI - Swift, Johnson, Monangai, Homer, Wheeler
CIN - Brown, Moss, Perine, Brooks, Milton, Brightwell
CLE - Ford, Judkins, Sampson, Strong
DAL - Williams, Sanders, Blue, Mafah, Vaughn
DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson
DET - Gibbs, Montgomery, Reynolds, Vaki
GB - Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd, Brooks, Johnson, White
HOU - Mixon, Pierce, Ogunbowale, Marks, Taylor, Brooks, Jordan
IND - Taylor, Herbert, Giddens, Goodson, Ahmed
JAC - Etienne, Bigsby, Tuten, Robinson, Allen, Jackson
KC - Pacheco, Hunt, Mitchell, Steele, Smith, Ingram, Young
LV - Jeanty, Mostert, McCormick, White, Laube, Collier
LAC - Harris, Hampton, Haskins, Vidal, Patterson, Sanders
LAR - Williams, Corum, Hunter, Rivers, Schrader, Waters
MIA - Achane, Wright, Mattison, Gordon
MIN - Jones, Mason, Chandler, Scott, Stewart
NE - Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, Jennings
NO - Kamara, Miller, Neal, Edwards-Helaire, Mims, Jones, Valladay, Yarns
NYG - Tracy, Singletary, Skattebo, Gray, Miller
NYJ - Hall, Allen, Davis, Nwangwu, Evans
PHI - Barkley, Shipley, Dillon, Williams, Nichols, Powell, Johnson
PIT - Warren, Johnson, Gainwell, Patterson, Ward, Shampklin, Hull
SF - McCaffrey, Guerendo, James, Taylor, Abanikanda
SEA - Walker, Charbonnet, McIntosh, Martinez, Holani, Wright
TB - Irving, White, Tucker, Williams
TEN - Pollard, Spears, Chestnut, Mullings, Small
WAS - Robinson, Ekeler, McNichols, Rodriguez, Croskey-Merritt, Felton, Allen, Wiley

Great idea for a thread GB

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I guess we need to consider a Conner/Benson change is coming at some point

IMO only if Conner falters.

 

[JohnnyU]

I guess we need to consider a Conner/Benson change is coming at some point

IMO only if Conner falters.

Isn’t he due for an injury? I remember when he was always banged up. He’s been mostly healthy since leaving Pittsburgh.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I guess we need to consider a Conner/Benson change is coming at some point

IMO only if Conner falters.

Isn’t he due for an injury? I remember when he was always banged up. He’s been mostly healthy since leaving Pittsburgh.

He's also 30 now. Guy has been a machine lately, but its inevitable at some point soon.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I guess we need to consider a Conner/Benson change is coming at some point

IMO only if Conner falters.

Isn’t he due for an injury? I remember when he was always banged up. He’s been mostly healthy since leaving Pittsburgh.

He's also 30 now. Guy has been a machine lately, but its inevitable at some point soon.

lol we’ve been saying some version of that for like 3 years now

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Rhamondre-I only put this at 70/30 and think people are burying him to soon and my real prediction is it's going to be way more of a RBBC then people are expecting. Ideally Henderson and him compliment each other IF Rhamondre does not have ball security issues. This guys a good running back who was in a brutal sitaution the last few years but he can't keep fumbling.

I agree with this one. Trade value is nil, but I think he comes out with a sizable workload once the season starts. It’s not like that team is oozing weapons to the point they’ll bench RS.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

love this thread, thanks @TheWinz and everyone for your contributions. will be glued to this thread as camp opens and open competitions begin.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

In terms of Chicago, I think they are in a pretty good spot for “picking the garbage” at the RB position. Some teams are going to have some tough choices to make and the Bears might just be in a position to capitalize on that.

Does Chubb have anything left to muddy up the water on a team?

 

[joey]

Thoughts on NO backups Miller and Neal?

I’m in 3 FFPC drafts right now.
Neal was drafted in the late 3rd to mid 4th in all 3 leagues.
Miller was kept in 1 of 3 leagues.
Miller is sitting un-drafted at 4.5 and 7.2 in the other 2 leagues.

Neal is a 6th round pick. Miller is only 22 and was a 3rd round pick.

Is it simply a case of Shiny New Toy? Or Miller has had his chance and shown nothing? Or a combo of both?

I don’t know what to make of that situation since I haven’t rostered Miller or Kamara anywhere, so I don’t follow them.

 

[Mister CIA]

Speaking strictly about talent, Elijah Mitchell. Pacheco is a jag but with a great motor and will be difficult to unseat, but Elijah Mitchell is fantastic RB, availability issues aside. If he's healthy, he can wrestle the starting gig away from Pacheco. I won't go so far as to suggest that he will prevail as starter, but I'll be the least surprised person if he does. Mitchell will be a prime dart to throw in a redraft.

 

[menobrown]

The funny thing about these lists is it's almost never who we think.

Last year guys like Conner, Cook, Pollard, Robinson were probably at the top of the list and they all held strong.

Meanwhile Etienne was a lock-in top 5 RB. Rachaad White was top 10 with seemingly a pretty good hold. Both thrown to the fantasy scrap-heaps now.

I think guys like Kyren Williams, James Cook, De'Von Achane could be darkhorse candidates this year. Kenneth Walker too but I think he'd be less of a surprise.

I was thinking/wondering more about the unexpected guys.

Kyren is a good, unexpected choice. Walker is a possible dark horse. I'd have to squint pretty hard to see Cook or Achane.

Kinda boring but Aaron Jones, Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon are some vets that might get overtaken although I'm not crazy bullish on who is behind them.

I honestly did not think any of those RB’s listed by Freebagel were in danger. At most thought Pollard might be in in 50/50 or 55/45 type sitatuion.

I feel even more confident the guys you listed are all safe. Not so much safe from another RB lightening their load, but safe in terms of their standing as the top options on the team.

Obviously that's a lot of old guys who could hit a wall and change teams plans but I actually feel extremely confident in all of those teams belief in those RB's.

 

[menobrown]

Thoughts on NO backups Miller and Neal?

I’m in 3 FFPC drafts right now.
Neal was drafted in the late 3rd to mid 4th in all 3 leagues.
Miller was kept in 1 of 3 leagues.
Miller is sitting un-drafted at 4.5 and 7.2 in the other 2 leagues.

Neal is a 6th round pick. Miller is only 22 and was a 3rd round pick.

Is it simply a case of Shiny New Toy? Or Miller has had his chance and shown nothing? Or a combo of both?

I don’t know what to make of that situation since I haven’t rostered Miller or Kamara anywhere, so I don’t follow them.

I paired them together on one team, view it as a competition between them but if I had to choose I'd take Kendre and know that's the minority opinion.

I mean if he comes out hurt and unavailable again he'll get usurped and maybe cut. But a new staff will usually give a new leash and he's something neither Kamara or Neal are not, explosive, and this offense could use it. He may be a knucklehead or does not get it but I think he can win the battle if his body and head are into it.

I think there are a lot of backup/handcuff battles going on in the league this year and in most cases fantasy drafters all prefer the shiny new "what if toy" over the incumbent they saw do next to nothing.

 

[Chaka]

Speaking strictly about talent, Elijah Mitchell. Pacheco is a jag but with a great motor and will be difficult to unseat, but Elijah Mitchell is fantastic RB, availability issues aside. If he's healthy, he can wrestle the starting gig away from Pacheco. I won't go so far as to suggest that he will prevail as starter, but I'll be the least surprised person if he does. Mitchell will be a prime dart to throw in a redraft.

I think, after four seasons of 11, 5, 11 & 0 games for which he was not out, the availability issue is the story.

He has also not shown much as a receiver.

Sure, he's a flyer with upside in that offense but if/when he gets an opportunity my guess is it's a short lived ride. And probably one that costs managers as many games as he helps win.

ETA: and let's be realistic about that KC offense, it hasn't exactly been a boon to RBs under Reid. No weekly game changers since Hunt's rookie year in 2017.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Does Chubb have anything left to muddy up the water on a team?

I’ve seen a couple videos of him lifting weights and jumping - Dudes in incredible shape. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a team like Chicago pick him up.

 

[Payne]

BTW not to get off subject but if this is how teams RB's room look heading into the season would it be fair to say D'Andre Swift is the biggest RB winner of the off-season?

Chase Brown

Has the ability, potential and workload to be a top 5 back in 2025.

 

[Biabreakable]

Thoughts on NO backups Miller and Neal?

I’m in 3 FFPC drafts right now.
Neal was drafted in the late 3rd to mid 4th in all 3 leagues.
Miller was kept in 1 of 3 leagues.
Miller is sitting un-drafted at 4.5 and 7.2 in the other 2 leagues.

Neal is a 6th round pick. Miller is only 22 and was a 3rd round pick.

Is it simply a case of Shiny New Toy? Or Miller has had his chance and shown nothing? Or a combo of both?

I don’t know what to make of that situation since I haven’t rostered Miller or Kamara anywhere, so I don’t follow them.

Neal was ranked pretty high in the predraft process, so people familiar with that may view him as potential heir to Kamara or part of a committee.

You make an excellent point in regards to the difference in draft position.

Miller actually got to 'start' 2 games last year according to PFR but he didn't do much in those games or any games besides week 18 vs Atlanta in 2023.

 

[TheWinz]

I saw Chubb mentioned in here, but not Dobbins yet. In terms of PPG last year, he was ahead of half the current "starters". He's proven to be effective when on the field, but has missed over 50% of the games since entering the NFL. No clue on his current health though.

 

[LawFitz]

You make an excellent point in regards to the difference in draft position.

Context is needed here. Miller's draft wasn't nearly as deep at RB compared to this class. Miller has also shown himself to be less than capable at NFL football. Like all the rookies, Neal hasn't yet failed as a pro, which makes them inherently more valuable in this moment.

 

[menobrown]

You make an excellent point in regards to the difference in draft position.

Context is needed here. Miller's draft wasn't nearly as deep at RB compared to this class. Miller has also shown himself to be less than capable at NFL football. Like all the rookies, Neal hasn't yet failed as a pro, which makes them inherently more valuable in this moment.

16th RB in the class and 6th round no matter how deep the class still pales considerably to me in draft capital and I don't really agree Miller has shown he's less then capable, just has shown he has issues with availability. He might be lazy, unprofessional and Saints are tired of him. That I don't know. But I'll keep saying he's trumps Neal in draft capital and explosive ability.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

 

[Anarchy99]

Rhamondre-I only put this at 70/30 and think people are burying him to soon and my real prediction is it's going to be way more of a RBBC then people are expecting. Ideally Henderson and him compliment each other IF Rhamondre does not have ball security issues. This guys a good running back who was in a brutal sitaution the last few years but he can't keep fumbling.

I agree with this one. Trade value is nil, but I think he comes out with a sizable workload once the season starts. It’s not like that team is oozing weapons to the point they’ll bench RS.

70% of the RB touches? I don't see it. In 2023, RS accounted for 42% of RB touches in NE and in 2024, he had 56%. Stevenson the past two seasons has averaged 16 touches and 12 fantasy ppg in 1 PPR leagues. That would put him just outside the Top 25 RBs scoring wise on a per game basis. He was not the choice of the current regime, and Vrabel has already drafted someone most likely to replace him.

I don't see a scenario where Stevenson gets a much bigger piece of the pie or a big boost in his fantasy totals or efficiency. I also don't expect the NE offense to be significantly better (IMO, they added different players to replace below average players . . . I am not convinced that the new faces will be much better than the ones they ran out of town.) Fantasy wise, I probably wouldn't invest the draft capital for what it would take to get Henderson, so I would likely pass on taking a RB from NE this year unless these they really fell in the draft.

 

[menobrown]

Rhamondre-I only put this at 70/30 and think people are burying him to soon and my real prediction is it's going to be way more of a RBBC then people are expecting. Ideally Henderson and him compliment each other IF Rhamondre does not have ball security issues. This guys a good running back who was in a brutal sitaution the last few years but he can't keep fumbling.

I agree with this one. Trade value is nil, but I think he comes out with a sizable workload once the season starts. It’s not like that team is oozing weapons to the point they’ll bench RS.

70% of the RB touches? I don't see it. In 2023, RS accounted for 42% of RB touches in NE and in 2024, he had 56%. Stevenson the past two seasons has averaged 16 touches and 12 fantasy ppg in 1 PPR leagues. That would put him just outside the Top 25 RBs scoring wise on a per game basis. He was not the choice of the current regime, and Vrabel has already drafted someone most likely to replace him.

I don't see a scenario where Stevenson gets a much bigger piece of the pie or a big boost in his fantasy totals or efficiency. I also don't expect the NE offense to be significantly better (IMO, they added different players to replace below average players . . . I am not convinced that the new faces will be much better than the ones they ran out of town.) Fantasy wise, I probably wouldn't invest the draft capital for what it would take to get Henderson, so I would likely pass on taking a RB from NE this year unless these they really fell in the draft.

Sorry for confusion, can see why it was not clear, but meant more I put odds of Henderson being the primary fantasy RB at 70%.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Based on FBG's current depth charts, who do you see losing their role as the top dog? I'm talking about losing it based on performance.

CLE - Ford, Judkins, Sampson, Strong
DAL - Williams, Sanders, Blue, Mafah, Vaughn
DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson
LAC - Harris, Hampton, Haskins, Vidal, Patterson, Sanders
NE - Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, Jennings
NYG - Tracy, Singletary, Skattebo, Gray, Miller
PIT - Warren, Johnson, Gainwell, Patterson, Ward, Shampklin, Hull

Orange ya glad I highlighted the non-#1s that carry the most dynasty value on their team?


Blue is pretty mind blowing, but I get it. Most surprised that Conner has a narrow lead over Benson. People have finally learned not to dismiss James Conner until he hangs it up I guess. A Jones holding off Mason.

These are KTC. Please post any exceptions or disagreements from other sources including your own.

 

[Biabreakable]

You make an excellent point in regards to the difference in draft position.

Context is needed here. Miller's draft wasn't nearly as deep at RB compared to this class. Miller has also shown himself to be less than capable at NFL football. Like all the rookies, Neal hasn't yet failed as a pro, which makes them inherently more valuable in this moment.

Important context in regards to the difference in draft classes.

FWIW Neal looked like he was in similar tier as Kaleb Johnson to me based on lists I looked at. Sometimes top 5 but often mentioned in top the top 10.

The 2025 draft was very deep and talented at RB so in a more average draft class he would maybe be picked in 4th or 5th round instead of the 6th. There were RB drafted higher that I didn't see as high on a lot of lists pushing a guy like Neal further down.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

You make an excellent point in regards to the difference in draft position.

Context is needed here. Miller's draft wasn't nearly as deep at RB compared to this class. Miller has also shown himself to be less than capable at NFL football. Like all the rookies, Neal hasn't yet failed as a pro, which makes them inherently more valuable in this moment.

Important context in regards to the difference in draft classes.

FWIW Neal looked like he was in similar tier as Kaleb Johnson to me based on lists I looked at. Sometimes top 5 but often mentioned in top the top 10.

The 2025 draft was very deep and talented at RB so in a more average draft class he would maybe be picked in 4th or 5th round instead of the 6th. There were RB drafted higher that I didn't see as high on a lot of lists pushing a guy like Neal further down.

For both sides of Neal vs Miller, I think Silvio Dante said it best:

"Our true enemy has yet to reveal himself."

 

[joey]

Based on FBG's current depth charts, who do you see losing their role as the top dog? I'm talking about losing it based on performance.

CLE - Ford, Judkins, Sampson, Strong
DAL - Williams, Sanders, Blue, Mafah, Vaughn
DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson
LAC - Harris, Hampton, Haskins, Vidal, Patterson, Sanders
NE - Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, Jennings
NYG - Tracy, Singletary, Skattebo, Gray, Miller
PIT - Warren, Johnson, Gainwell, Patterson, Ward, Shampklin, Hull

Orange ya glad I highlighted the non-#1s that carry the most dynasty value on their team?


Blue is pretty mind blowing, but I get it. Most surprised that Conner has a narrow lead over Benson. People have finally learned not to dismiss James Conner until he hangs it up I guess. A Jones holding off Mason.

These are KTC. Please post any exceptions or disagreements from other sources including your own.

Re: Blue…what do you mean by “mind blowing”? I can’t tell which side you’re coming down on.

I roster Javonte in 2 of the 3 rookie FFPC drafts I’m currently in and didn’t land Blue in a single one. I guess I wasn’t expecting him to go late 2nd/early 3rd, so I missed out.

 

[menobrown]

Based on FBG's current depth charts, who do you see losing their role as the top dog? I'm talking about losing it based on performance.

CLE - Ford, Judkins, Sampson, Strong
DAL - Williams, Sanders, Blue, Mafah, Vaughn
DEN - McLaughlin, Harvey, Estime, Badie, Watson
LAC - Harris, Hampton, Haskins, Vidal, Patterson, Sanders
NE - Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, Jennings
NYG - Tracy, Singletary, Skattebo, Gray, Miller
PIT - Warren, Johnson, Gainwell, Patterson, Ward, Shampklin, Hull

Orange ya glad I highlighted the non-#1s that carry the most dynasty value on their team?


Blue is pretty mind blowing, but I get it. Most surprised that Conner has a narrow lead over Benson. People have finally learned not to dismiss James Conner until he hangs it up I guess. A Jones holding off Mason.

These are KTC. Please post any exceptions or disagreements from other sources including your own.

In terms of dynasty value the only one I disagree with is Skattebo>Tracy but do think it's very close. None of the others seem close to me in terms of their dynasty value today.