RB's that stand to gain or lose big based on the draft... (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Ryan Torain -- If Washington ignores the RB spot through the first 3-4 rounds in the draft, Torain's value will definitely get a nice boost. On the flipside, if they do take a back early in the draft, Torain's value will plummet even further

BJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.

That's just to get it started. What else do you guys see?

 

[mikel2014]

I expect Moreno to see a decent drop in value when the Broncos draft a RB in rounds 2/3.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I see Michael Bush's value drop when the Raiders select Taiwan Jones in the second round.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

BJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.

With all the FAs on the market, BJGE's value boost may be short lived. If I owned him I'd take advantage of it right after the draft. While I do like watching his agressive style, he's really not a special back at all and likely wouldn't have even played much last season if Fred Taylor and then Sammy Morris hadn't gotten hurt. In fact BJGE was behind those two vets (that had seen their better days) after camp. Even older vets that are no longer top level FAs, like Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown or Willis MaGahee, could be threats to him.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

A couple of aging veterans may see backs drafted as the heir apparent and/or a back that could cut into their carries:

Steve Jackson

Michael Turner

 

[gianmarco]

BJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.

With all the FAs on the market, BJGE's value boost may be short lived. If I owned him I'd take advantage of it right after the draft. While I do like watching his agressive style, he's really not a special back at all and likely wouldn't have even played much last season if Fred Taylor and then Sammy Morris hadn't gotten hurt. In fact BJGE was behind those two vets (that had seen their better days) after camp. Even older vets that are no longer top level FAs, like Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown or Willis MaGahee, could be threats to him.

It's "just numbers", but you may want to check out where BJGE is on this list. He's not as good as those #'s say but I also don't think he's as bad as many think he is:

DVOA RB rankings

 

[Fighting Noles]

Whether or not Detroit takes a bigger sized RB (Goalline/banger between the 20's) in the first 3 or 4 rds. could have an impact on Best that not many here have accounted for - especially in Non-PPR formats (& maybe correctly so, if they don't take one, but I think they will).....Also, if St. Louis takes a "significant" 3rd down back/COP type rather early - that could impact SJax in PPR's.

If the GMen make a move at RB - that will be important with Bradshaws' contract status up in the air.

Also, what Tampa does/doesn't do will have a big impact on Blounts' value.

I think Atlanta could surprise some Turner owners simply because he derives most of his value from being THE workhorse in that backfield.

I think Moreno is more likely to be impacted by Free Agency than the draft, but with the CBA the way it is right now

some teams may feel forced to take a shot at guys in the draft. Anything that makes him a 2 down back or much more of a RBBC member impacts his value obviously.

Also agree on Washington & N.E. - the main ones to watch & good calls. I do think with about 10 "decent" 2-5 RD RB's out there that there will be more surprises/value changes @ RB after this weekend than in previous drafts.

 

[Chimp Magnet]

Legarette Blount. If TB takes a back early then it's fully blown timeshare at best. If they stay away from a back then I don't see either Caddy or Huggins taking significant time away from Blount.

 

[jacobo_moses]

I think Green Bay could make it a mess for Ryan Grant,James Starks if they draft a RB in the first 1-3 rounds. WHich I wouldn't rule that out.

I think if Atl drafts a RB in first 4 rounds that helps Turner. Keeps him fresh.

The Saints backfield stand to lose. I think they draft a RB in the first 3 rounds.

 

[saintfool]

Legarette Blount. If TB takes a back early then it's fully blown timeshare at best. If they stay away from a back then I don't see either Caddy or Huggins taking significant time away from Blount.

I think any RB drafted (outside of R1 or R2) poses a greater threat to Huggins or Caddy than to Blount. Huggins is recovering from serious injury. Cadillac is fighting to keep the 3rd down back duties. Blount played well enough last year to earn himself another year.

 

[saintfool]

The Saints backfield stand to lose. I think they draft a RB in the first 3 rounds.

it is tough to predict Payton's moves but i don't think he grabs anyone in the draft. he will wait for an UDFA or cast off. he's got Pierre signed. he's sweet on Ivory. he's got Reggie too. he can afford to wait.

 

[gianmarco]

The Saints backfield stand to lose. I think they draft a RB in the first 3 rounds.

it is tough to predict Payton's moves but i don't think he grabs anyone in the draft. he will wait for an UDFA or cast off. he's got Pierre signed. he's sweet on Ivory. he's got Reggie too. he can afford to wait.

 

[todisco1]

Addai/Brown if Indy goes RB in the first 3-4 rounds.

 

[Hoosier16]

Ryan Torain -- If Washington ignores the RB spot through the first 3-4 rounds in the draft, Torain's value will definitely get a nice boost. On the flipside, if they do take a back early in the draft, Torain's value will plummet even furtherBJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.That's just to get it started. What else do you guys see?

With Torain, I can see Washington ignoring a RB (mainly due to lack of picks) and picking one up in FA. With Washington not having a 3rd or 4th, and also having more pressing needs than a RB, signing a FA may be a better value play for them.With BJGE, I think you're right. NE has so many early picks and not very many needs. Even if they don't use a pick on a RB, I don't see them making a splash in the FA market.The other I'd throw out is Benson. If CIncy doesn't use a day 1-2 pick on a RB, I think that's a sign that Benson is likely getting re-signed. I can't see them finding a FA RB that would be significantly better and sign for less.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Legarette Blount. If TB takes a back early then it's fully blown timeshare at best. If they stay away from a back then I don't see either Caddy or Huggins taking significant time away from Blount.

I think any RB drafted (outside of R1 or R2) poses a greater threat to Huggins or Caddy than to Blount. Huggins is recovering from serious injury. Cadillac is fighting to keep the 3rd down back duties. Blount played well enough last year to earn himself another year.

I don't think Huggins is in the Bucs' longterm plans anymore. He wasn't tendered. His knee injury was very severe - he is behind Benn in recovery even though his injury happened earlier. I think Blount's value is already timeshare back, so I don't think it gets hurt much in dynasty if they add someone else. His value only drops if the committee guy is better at goalline than he is because he wasn't successful in those situations last year.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

BJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.

With all the FAs on the market, BJGE's value boost may be short lived. If I owned him I'd take advantage of it right after the draft. While I do like watching his agressive style, he's really not a special back at all and likely wouldn't have even played much last season if Fred Taylor and then Sammy Morris hadn't gotten hurt. In fact BJGE was behind those two vets (that had seen their better days) after camp. Even older vets that are no longer top level FAs, like Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown or Willis MaGahee, could be threats to him.

It's "just numbers", but you may want to check out where BJGE is on this list. He's not as good as those #'s say but I also don't think he's as bad as many think he is:

DVOA RB rankings

He's at the bottom of lists for other "sabermetric" type rankings like this as well (see Football Outsiders for some examples such as their "breaking tackle metrics"). Frankly I don't care about those numbers that paint him negatively either thpugh.I never said he was bad. He's an average runner than can be effective given the Patriots very good o-line and passing attack that support him. However they can do better. I think Belicheck does like Green-Ellis, but he's shown that he prefers to keep him in a back-up role.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Let’s go around the horn here a bit…



AFC East

Miami: Surely they have no intentions of keeping Brown or Williams at this point. There are some FA RBs I would like to see land here but that said they can’t assume they will be able to sign DWill for example. He might want to sign somewhere he can actually make the playoffs. I see Miami drafting a RB, perhaps Ingram who I think will be a Curtis Martin like back in the NFL. I don’t get why people are not higher on this kid.

New England: Woodhead is a big part of their offense, they locked him up for the next 4 years for peanuts. BJGE is the perfect complement to him, not sure what there is to gain for a team that throws the ball short a lot as part of their “ground game”. I can’t see NE spending a top pick on a RB, maybe a 4th or something to find a speed guy but they love what they have right now.

New York Jets: They could bring in another back and send LT on his way. I’m not sure that is likely but it would not surprise me. This team has made it to the AFC Champ 2 years in a row. They need something to get over the hump.

Buffalo: Doubt they do anything at RB and even if they did grab a gem in the 3rd round, they would likely be buried and have to wait for injuries to mount.



AFC North

Pitt, Balt, and Cle…they all have a good solid RB1 and especially Pitt/Balt have some identity on offense. Hillis is a guy to build around for the Browns but they have a new coach so perhaps philosophy changes.

Cinci: This team is a complete mess and who really knows what they have planned. If you didn’t get in on a Cinci RB, has it ever really cost you in the last 15-20 years? Has there ever been a complete stud at RB in this offense? Maybe Dillon if we went back far enough but I have never played in a league where someone was tearing it up because of their treasure at RB from Cinci.



AFC South

Tennessee: Nothing to see here

Indy: They got some major decisions. I think Brown is a failure and they know they cannot rely on him as their RB1. I’m not sure they will hold on to Addai or not but they are definitely a team that could reach out and scoop a RB up in the 1st or 2nd round.

Houston: They seem set, and don’t forget they have a player coming back who was out all of last year that they drafted in the 2nd in last year’s draft.

Jacksonville: MJD is their guy and the backup last year seemed decent.



AFC West

Denver: Fox always likes 2 backs. Moreno has not shown he can really handle a full load for the entire season. I see Fox taking a RB in the 1st 3 rounds or signing someone as soon as FA opens.

Oakland: I actually see them bringing in another back and letting Bush go on his way.

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

San Diego: They seem to be OK with what they have and they spent a 1st rounder on this position last year.



NFC East

Dallas: Possibly

Philly: LeSean McCoy took the big step last season. I wouldn’t worry even if they draft someone.

NY Giants: I could see them bringing in a new RB1. Ingram should be in the mix for them.

Washington: Does it matter? Shanny is a never ending headache for most owners.



NFC North

Detroit: Are they set?

Chicago: They need another back to go with Forte IMO.

Green Bay: They got plenty now.

Minnesota: Doesn’t matter who they draft, ADP all day.



NFC South

Carolina: Not sure what to think here. They have Goodman and Stewart, they should be good to go.

Atlanta: Turner is 30 or will be soon.

Tampa Bay: Definitely should be looking to reinforce their backfield.

New Orleans: I could see them drafting a couple backs if they see value. Bush and Thomas may be on the way out.



NFC West

Arizona: This combo is not working that well for them. When is Wells a bust?

San Fran: Gore is getting older.

St Louis: I think they need a better option at RB2, a defined role player that can come in and take 30-40 short screens and dump from Bradford to work underneath. I know SJax can catch but they have a potential prime QB, can never have enough weapons for these types of QBs.

Seattle: Someone will eventually split time with Lynch.



The good news for most dynasty owners is that there are not a lot of RBs with skills in the draft this year. I would be a little worried only because you don’t know what the future is if you own guys like DWill and Bradshaw.

 

[saintfool]

Legarette Blount. If TB takes a back early then it's fully blown timeshare at best. If they stay away from a back then I don't see either Caddy or Huggins taking significant time away from Blount.

I think any RB drafted (outside of R1 or R2) poses a greater threat to Huggins or Caddy than to Blount. Huggins is recovering from serious injury. Cadillac is fighting to keep the 3rd down back duties. Blount played well enough last year to earn himself another year.

I don't think Huggins is in the Bucs' longterm plans anymore. He wasn't tendered. His knee injury was very severe - he is behind Benn in recovery even though his injury happened earlier. I think Blount's value is already timeshare back, so I don't think it gets hurt much in dynasty if they add someone else. His value only drops if the committee guy is better at goalline than he is because he wasn't successful in those situations last year.

i think they are taking a wait and see approach to huggins. if he's not ready then they are free to look elsewhere. i think blount is a work in progress. there is no reason for him to be poor to mediocre at the goaline. he will be trying to improve and morris wants to see that improvement.

 

[Donnybrook]

Philly: LeSean McCoy took the big step last season. I wouldn't worry even if they draft someone.

I still recall the days of the 3 headed monster of Duece Staley, Buckhalter and Westbrooke. I'm not saying that Reid wants to repeat history but I expect he would be more confortable with a good second back. Mike Bell is not cutting it. Philly has 10 picks in this draft and rumored to be looking for more. Philly, IMO, is one of the teams that don't have huge holes in their lineup and can afford to take the BPA. This is a draft where BPA might just be a RB.

 

[Coin Flip]

Addai/Brown if Indy goes RB in the first 3-4 rounds.

I feel this hurts Brown.............not Addai if they keep him. Addai will still start and get injured by week 5

 

[RobertBobson]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

 

[loose circuits]

Philly: LeSean McCoy took the big step last season. I wouldn't worry even if they draft someone.

I still recall the days of the 3 headed monster of Duece Staley, Buckhalter and Westbrooke. I'm not saying that Reid wants to repeat history but I expect he would be more confortable with a good second back. Mike Bell is not cutting it. Philly has 10 picks in this draft and rumored to be looking for more. Philly, IMO, is one of the teams that don't have huge holes in their lineup and can afford to take the BPA. This is a draft where BPA might just be a RB.

that's why they traded him for Jerome Harrison- who is a 4 or 5 year RFA, but they hope to re-sign him although have stated they'll draft like he's out the door

 

[loose circuits]

BJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.

With all the FAs on the market, BJGE's value boost may be short lived. If I owned him I'd take advantage of it right after the draft. While I do like watching his agressive style, he's really not a special back at all and likely wouldn't have even played much last season if Fred Taylor and then Sammy Morris hadn't gotten hurt. In fact BJGE was behind those two vets (that had seen their better days) after camp. Even older vets that are no longer top level FAs, like Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown or Willis MaGahee, could be threats to him.

Not sure how you can assume that. BGE was starting pre-season games and running with the 1st team while Morris would come in play FB and Fred Taylor would be in the games in the 2nd half. People just kept writing it off as BB playing games.Either way it doesn't matter. He comes cheaply right now and price is probably worth it to see what happens. Ideal complement to Woodhead. I don't care what those metrics say. Pretty sure a year ago they told us Forsett was the best back in the league and how did that work out?

 

[cr8f]

I think Green Bay could make it a mess for Ryan Grant,James Starks if they draft a RB in the first 1-3 rounds. WHich I wouldn't rule that out. I think if Atl drafts a RB in first 4 rounds that helps Turner. Keeps him fresh. The Saints backfield stand to lose. I think they draft a RB in the first 3 rounds.

I don't see Ted drafting one that early. Brandon Jackson was a bust as a 2nd round pick. I think Ted will draft players he likes that are values in later rounds(players that fall)so 1-3 seems too early for me. Grant and Starks were 6th rounders and Jackson a 2nd, he may not look at it that way but should.

 

[Sweet Love]

Let’s go around the horn here a bit…



AFC East

Miami: Surely they have no intentions of keeping Brown or Williams at this point. There are some FA RBs I would like to see land here but that said they can’t assume they will be able to sign DWill for example. He might want to sign somewhere he can actually make the playoffs. I see Miami drafting a RB, perhaps Ingram who I think will be a Curtis Martin like back in the NFL. I don’t get why people are not higher on this kid.

New England: Woodhead is a big part of their offense, they locked him up for the next 4 years for peanuts. BJGE is the perfect complement to him, not sure what there is to gain for a team that throws the ball short a lot as part of their “ground game”. I can’t see NE spending a top pick on a RB, maybe a 4th or something to find a speed guy but they love what they have right now.

New York Jets: They could bring in another back and send LT on his way. I’m not sure that is likely but it would not surprise me. This team has made it to the AFC Champ 2 years in a row. They need something to get over the hump.

Buffalo: Doubt they do anything at RB and even if they did grab a gem in the 3rd round, they would likely be buried and have to wait for injuries to mount.

Here are my thoughts on the AFC East:Miami - I agree that one of either Brown or Williams will be gone, and my guess is that will be Brown. They could also cut loose Williams, but my guess is that no matter who they bring in, they keep him. DWill would of course be a nice addition (ughhh as a Jets fan), but a sneaky pick may be Michael Bush; I believe he is an FA or RFA DOE new agreement, and he would cost peanuts compared to DWill and has more tread on his tires at this point.

Jets - I think LT did just enough to get another year. He really embraced the city/team and would be a nice mentor to Greene and McKnight. Speaking of McKnight, he played well enough in that last game IMO to warrant another year without someone nipping at his heels.

Pats - This one as you said is a real headscratcher...If I were to dive into the brain of Bellicheck (which I would recommend no one attempt), my thought is that it depends on whether they bring back Morris and/or Faulk. Not that either one of those will have an impact on Woodhead and BJGE, but they literally would take roster spots from an up and comer. If they choose to cut them loose, THEN you could see a real competition as Belicheck knows the RBs in his system are a dime a dozen and he could have an UDFA starting by week 3 and not miss a beat.

Buffalo - As you said, i see nothing here. They have to justify that Spiller pick and I can't see them giving someone else (besides Jackson) and significant time.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

This is just every kind of wrong. Thomas Jones is clearly at the end of his career and there is a need for a back capable of 200 touches. KC ran 556 times last season and after assuming that they will increase Charles' attempts, they still need another back considering the current depth chart.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

BJGE -- Everyone is picking NE to grab a RB early. I'm not sure I buy that but it's tough to figure out what NE ever does. Right now, his value is minimal due to all the chatter but if the Patriots ignore that spot early in the draft, his value could see a nice boost.

With all the FAs on the market, BJGE's value boost may be short lived. If I owned him I'd take advantage of it right after the draft. While I do like watching his agressive style, he's really not a special back at all and likely wouldn't have even played much last season if Fred Taylor and then Sammy Morris hadn't gotten hurt. In fact BJGE was behind those two vets (that had seen their better days) after camp. Even older vets that are no longer top level FAs, like Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown or Willis MaGahee, could be threats to him.

Not sure how you can assume that. BGE was starting pre-season games and running with the 1st team while Morris would come in play FB and Fred Taylor would be in the games in the 2nd half. People just kept writing it off as BB playing games.Either way it doesn't matter. He comes cheaply right now and price is probably worth it to see what happens. Ideal complement to Woodhead. I don't care what those metrics say. Pretty sure a year ago they told us Forsett was the best back in the league and how did that work out?

Because Taylor was named the starter. I absolutely agree about the metrics (whether good or bad), I think they are mostly useless. ETA: I only brought them up as a counter argument to his "good" metrics.

I also agree that at the price he is worth it - you got him at a risdiclous price. Personally I feel that they will draft a back, but of course that does not mean they will. We all speculate to some degree. If it sounds like I'm talking in absolutes, I'm not trying to.

 

[Hoosier16]

Cinci: This team is a complete mess and who really knows what they have planned. If you didn't get in on a Cinci RB, has it ever really cost you in the last 15-20 years? Has there ever been a complete stud at RB in this offense? Maybe Dillon if we went back far enough but I have never played in a league where someone was tearing it up because of their treasure at RB from Cinci.

I think you're way off here. There may not be a top 5 RB in CIncy next year, but during marvin's tenure, owning the Cincy RB has been much better than owning the NE or Miami RB, the 2 spots generally considered to be the best landing spots. At least in Cincy, you know the lead RB will get the ball 20 times per game.

 

[Hoosier16]

Addai/Brown if Indy goes RB in the first 3-4 rounds.

I feel this hurts Brown.............not Addai if they keep him. Addai will still start and get injured by week 5

I kind of see it the other way around. If they draft a RB, it's a sign that Addai is gone. Brown then competes with a rookie who doesn't know the offense and may also not be able to pass block. If they don't draft a RB, it's likely a sign that they will keep Addai and Brown probably loses that battle or at the very most, participates in a RBBC.

 

[coolnerd]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

They drafted Maroney in the 1st round just a handful of years ago.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Cinci: This team is a complete mess and who really knows what they have planned. If you didn't get in on a Cinci RB, has it ever really cost you in the last 15-20 years? Has there ever been a complete stud at RB in this offense? Maybe Dillon if we went back far enough but I have never played in a league where someone was tearing it up because of their treasure at RB from Cinci.

I think you're way off here. There may not be a top 5 RB in CIncy next year, but during marvin's tenure, owning the Cincy RB has been much better than owning the NE or Miami RB, the 2 spots generally considered to be the best landing spots. At least in Cincy, you know the lead RB will get the ball 20 times per game.

Rudi Johnson was a "boring" first round pick in re-draft leagues for years.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Philly: LeSean McCoy took the big step last season. I wouldn't worry even if they draft someone.

I still recall the days of the 3 headed monster of Duece Staley, Buckhalter and Westbrooke. I'm not saying that Reid wants to repeat history but I expect he would be more confortable with a good second back. Mike Bell is not cutting it. Philly has 10 picks in this draft and rumored to be looking for more. Philly, IMO, is one of the teams that don't have huge holes in their lineup and can afford to take the BPA. This is a draft where BPA might just be a RB.

Yeah, other than DE, DT, LB, Safety, CB and all across the offensive line, Philly really doesn't have any huge holes.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

They drafted Maroney in the 1st round just a handful of years ago.

An exception, not the rule.

 

[RobertBobson]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

They drafted Maroney in the 1st round just a handful of years ago.

Yeah, that's a good point. And it worked out great for them, too.

 

[coolnerd]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

They drafted Maroney in the 1st round just a handful of years ago.

Yeah, that's a good point. And it worked out great for them, too.

In fact, Peter King had blurb today about Maroney's lack of passion for the game of football.

 

[gianmarco]

Philly: LeSean McCoy took the big step last season. I wouldn't worry even if they draft someone.

I still recall the days of the 3 headed monster of Duece Staley, Buckhalter and Westbrooke. I'm not saying that Reid wants to repeat history but I expect he would be more confortable with a good second back. Mike Bell is not cutting it. Philly has 10 picks in this draft and rumored to be looking for more. Philly, IMO, is one of the teams that don't have huge holes in their lineup and can afford to take the BPA. This is a draft where BPA might just be a RB.

Yeah, other than DE, DT, LB, Safety, CB and all across the offensive line, Philly really doesn't have any huge holes.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

They drafted Maroney in the 1st round just a handful of years ago.

An exception, not the rule.

How many teams draft first round RBs as a rule? - in theory none should (meaning teams shouldn't be drafting first round RBs all that often assuming they make the right choice when they do). It's just an example that shows that the Pats current regime is willing to spend an early pick on a RB if that's where they see value or need.Will they do it this year? None of us really know either way.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

This is just every kind of wrong. Thomas Jones is clearly at the end of his career and there is a need for a back capable of 200 touches. KC ran 556 times last season and after assuming that they will increase Charles' attempts, they still need another back considering the current depth chart.

Could you explain where coming to KC would be great for a rookie RB assuming the guys on the KC roster already remain healthy? I see the TJ angle but I wasn't really planning on Jones being a big part of my team next year. With all the scrutiny that the HC has been thru in the local/national media, and then running Weiss out of town...hard for me to see Charles getting a diminished role from last season. He still might have to share some but I don't see him tossed to the side in 2011.And another thing since it was about 3 months since I posted in the shark pool, I write a fairly lengthy post because I thought GianMarco came up with an interesting thread topic. I don't believe my post assaulted anyone, wasn't posted as a 1up to anyone, none of that...yet low and behold I am being told that I am all sorts of wrong here.

I'm telling you guys...pretty soon its just gonna be Carolina Hustler and a few others biting back and forth on each other thru every thread in here. I'm really disappointed to see the put downs in an off season thread where we are all just trying to come up with some perspective while things are pretty quiet.

Thanks for your SP contribution.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

This is just every kind of wrong. Thomas Jones is clearly at the end of his career and there is a need for a back capable of 200 touches. KC ran 556 times last season and after assuming that they will increase Charles' attempts, they still need another back considering the current depth chart.

Could you explain where coming to KC would be great for a rookie RB assuming the guys on the KC roster already remain healthy? I see the TJ angle but I wasn't really planning on Jones being a big part of my team next year. With all the scrutiny that the HC has been thru in the local/national media, and then running Weiss out of town...hard for me to see Charles getting a diminished role from last season. He still might have to share some but I don't see him tossed to the side in 2011.And another thing since it was about 3 months since I posted in the shark pool, I write a fairly lengthy post because I thought GianMarco came up with an interesting thread topic. I don't believe my post assaulted anyone, wasn't posted as a 1up to anyone, none of that...yet low and behold I am being told that I am all sorts of wrong here.

I'm telling you guys...pretty soon its just gonna be Carolina Hustler and a few others biting back and forth on each other thru every thread in here. I'm really disappointed to see the put downs in an off season thread where we are all just trying to come up with some perspective while things are pretty quiet.

Thanks for your SP contribution.

You are welcome. On a team that is very run oriented, review the roster of backs on their roster and you will see a huge gap after Charles. Jackie Battle

Tim Castille

Thomas Jones

Jones had 250 touches last year (246 run, 4 recp). Charles had 275 touches, bump that to 310 or so and you still need a secondary back and much sooner than later.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

This is just every kind of wrong. Thomas Jones is clearly at the end of his career and there is a need for a back capable of 200 touches. KC ran 556 times last season and after assuming that they will increase Charles' attempts, they still need another back considering the current depth chart.

Could you explain where coming to KC would be great for a rookie RB assuming the guys on the KC roster already remain healthy? I see the TJ angle but I wasn't really planning on Jones being a big part of my team next year. With all the scrutiny that the HC has been thru in the local/national media, and then running Weiss out of town...hard for me to see Charles getting a diminished role from last season. He still might have to share some but I don't see him tossed to the side in 2011.And another thing since it was about 3 months since I posted in the shark pool, I write a fairly lengthy post because I thought GianMarco came up with an interesting thread topic. I don't believe my post assaulted anyone, wasn't posted as a 1up to anyone, none of that...yet low and behold I am being told that I am all sorts of wrong here.

I'm telling you guys...pretty soon its just gonna be Carolina Hustler and a few others biting back and forth on each other thru every thread in here. I'm really disappointed to see the put downs in an off season thread where we are all just trying to come up with some perspective while things are pretty quiet.

Thanks for your SP contribution.

You are welcome. On a team that is very run oriented, review the roster of backs on their roster and you will see a huge gap after Charles. Jackie Battle

Tim Castille

Thomas Jones

Jones had 250 touches last year (246 run, 4 recp). Charles had 275 touches, bump that to 310 or so and you still need a secondary back and much sooner than later.

I really am not trying to start a fight but you don't seem to get it. The topic is RBs that stand to gain or lose...tell me who gains and who loses from KC with the draft this week? Someone on their roster already or a potential rookie? You already have loaded in last year's stats and there will be a potential 4th new OC inside of 2 years in KC so no chance those stats flux some I guess? Are you a KC resident? Do you own Charles in any dynasty leagues? Is there a reason you wanted to zero in on that team?

Another question I have is how many teams in the NFL have a RB with 300+ touches and another RB on that same team that you would wantto start most weeks? You posted you could see Charles getting 300+ touches, what is the 2nd RB gonna get in touches for KC?

 

[johnadams]

Seems to me that TJs role is ideal for a veteran back with strong ball security, an ability to make positive yards on a consistent basis and some blitz pick-up skills. And TJ probably has this role locked down for at least this year and KC has enough other spots to fill that it seems unlikely they'll roll with a RB in the first four rounds unless they are getting very good value.

 

[Go deep]

People keep saying that NE will draft (or should draft) Ingram. But I see absolutely nothing about NE's draft history that suggests they value runningbacks that highly. They may take one in the 2nd/3rd, and he may have an adverse effect on BJGE, but it won't be ingram.

I feel the same way about green bay. I don't think they are a franchise that values running backs as highly as others. Were grant and starks even draft picks? I would be shocked if they end up with one of the top five running backs picked in the draft.

They drafted Maroney in the 1st round just a handful of years ago.

An exception, not the rule.

How many RB's does a team need to draft in the first round over a coaches tenure to be considered a rule?

 

[Go deep]

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

This is just every kind of wrong. Thomas Jones is clearly at the end of his career and there is a need for a back capable of 200 touches. KC ran 556 times last season and after assuming that they will increase Charles' attempts, they still need another back considering the current depth chart.

Could you explain where coming to KC would be great for a rookie RB assuming the guys on the KC roster already remain healthy? I see the TJ angle but I wasn't really planning on Jones being a big part of my team next year. With all the scrutiny that the HC has been thru in the local/national media, and then running Weiss out of town...hard for me to see Charles getting a diminished role from last season. He still might have to share some but I don't see him tossed to the side in 2011.And another thing since it was about 3 months since I posted in the shark pool, I write a fairly lengthy post because I thought GianMarco came up with an interesting thread topic. I don't believe my post assaulted anyone, wasn't posted as a 1up to anyone, none of that...yet low and behold I am being told that I am all sorts of wrong here.

I'm telling you guys...pretty soon its just gonna be Carolina Hustler and a few others biting back and forth on each other thru every thread in here. I'm really disappointed to see the put downs in an off season thread where we are all just trying to come up with some perspective while things are pretty quiet.

Thanks for your SP contribution.

Someone has thin skin, must still be feeling pretty bad after losing all that money on the Steelers.I tend to agree with TD here. The Chiefs led the league in rush attempts last year and Charles is the only decent Rb on the roster. Its not like Charles is AD either, he is not really the kind of back you want to give 400 touches.

The Chiefs will draft a RB in this draft, you can BACK THE TRUCK UP on that.

Edit, spelling

 

[Lash]

good topic and good write up MOP

i'd watch out for the Packers ... for some reason i believe they might grab a RB

 

[cvnpoka]

Cinci: This team is a complete mess and who really knows what they have planned. If you didn't get in on a Cinci RB, has it ever really cost you in the last 15-20 years? Has there ever been a complete stud at RB in this offense? Maybe Dillon if we went back far enough but I have never played in a league where someone was tearing it up because of their treasure at RB from Cinci.

I think you're way off here. There may not be a top 5 RB in CIncy next year, but during marvin's tenure, owning the Cincy RB has been much better than owning the NE or Miami RB, the 2 spots generally considered to be the best landing spots. At least in Cincy, you know the lead RB will get the ball 20 times per game.

agreed, rudi johnson avged 1500 yfs and 12 tds for 3 consecutive years. he was a first round fantasy pick at that time. dillon was a fine back too.

 

[gianmarco]

Pierre Thomas the big loser so far......

 

[loose circuits]

The Saints backfield stand to lose. I think they draft a RB in the first 3 rounds.

it is tough to predict Payton's moves but i don't think he grabs anyone in the draft. he will wait for an UDFA or cast off. he's got Pierre signed. he's sweet on Ivory. he's got Reggie too. he can afford to wait.

 

[loose circuits]

You are welcome. On a team that is very run oriented, review the roster of backs on their roster and you will see a huge gap after Charles. Jackie BattleTim CastilleThomas JonesJones had 250 touches last year (246 run, 4 recp). Charles had 275 touches, bump that to 310 or so and you still need a secondary back and much sooner than later.

Battle isn't on the roster not tendered.. and Tim Castille is a FB

 

[gianmarco]

The Saints backfield stand to lose. I think they draft a RB in the first 3 rounds.

it is tough to predict Payton's moves but i don't think he grabs anyone in the draft. he will wait for an UDFA or cast off. he's got Pierre signed. he's sweet on Ivory. he's got Reggie too. he can afford to wait.

Never expected Ingram to fall down that far.

 

[griff321]

Pierre Thomas the big loser so far......

I agree with Reggie Bush. He'll be the odd man and PT's role will remain the same.... at least in year one.