RB's that stand to gain or lose big based on the draft... (1 Viewer)

[Rick James]

Michael Turner is a pretty big winner IMO-- Julio takes some pressure off him via reducing #s in the box, and he's also a great blocker.

 

[Hoosier16]

Pierre Thomas the big loser so far......

I agree with Reggie Bush. He'll be the odd man and PT's role will remain the same.... at least in year one.

Why?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Pierre Thomas the big loser so far......

I agree with Reggie Bush. He'll be the odd man and PT's role will remain the same.... at least in year one.

Why?

I agree that Reggie Bush is as good as gone, but I'm also curious what he means by the second part. I see Pierre Thomas as strictly a backup, and at best taking the thrid down role, at this point. If they traded back in for Ingram he's going to be the ball carrier in NO next season.I say this as a Thomas/Ivory owner so I'd love to be wrong.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

New Orleans: I could see them drafting a couple backs if they see value. Bush and Thomas may be on the way out.





The good news for most dynasty owners is that there are not a lot of RBs with skills in the draft this year.

Only Ingram in the 1st, good news all the way around for most dynasty owners. FA will impact things a lot more.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

New Orleans: I could see them drafting a couple backs if they see value. Bush and Thomas may be on the way out.





The good news for most dynasty owners is that there are not a lot of RBs with skills in the draft this year.

Only Ingram in the 1st, good news all the way around for most dynasty owners. FA will impact things a lot more.

While there aren't any "can't miss" RB prospects left, there is plenty of talented backs left. One of the reasons that only one RB went in round one (besides Ingram being the only real standout) is because there is plenty of depth at the position in this year's class. Teams can wait and still get a contributer.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

New Orleans: I could see them drafting a couple backs if they see value. Bush and Thomas may be on the way out.





The good news for most dynasty owners is that there are not a lot of RBs with skills in the draft this year.

Only Ingram in the 1st, good news all the way around for most dynasty owners. FA will impact things a lot more.

While there aren't any "can't miss" RB prospects left, there is plenty of talented backs left. One of the reasons that only one RB went in round one (besides Ingram being the only real standout) is because there is plenty of depth at the position in this year's class. Teams can wait and still get a contributer.

I understand Doc, I just see most of the remaining RBs as spare parts or part of a tandem at best. It's just a difference of opinion.

 

[gianmarco]

Beanie Wells

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Any RB that escapes the first 75 picks with no additional RB added to the fray is certainly short term winner.

Thus far:

New Orleans RBs

Arizona RBs

New England RBs

Detroit RBs

are losers.

 

[Boom Switch]

Benjarvis Green-Jeanie and woodhead?

 

[Couch Potato]

Shane Vereen just taken by NE in the 2nd round. BJGE just took a hit.

Interesting that 3 RB are off the board and LeShoure is still undrafted.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Shane Vereen just taken by NE in the 2nd round. BJGE just took a hit.Interesting that 3 RB are off the board and LeShoure is still undrafted.

I would think Woodhead takes a bigger hit, Vereen is a good receiver and an average overall back.But certainly it doesnt help the total stats output for all Pat backs.

 

[Rylenol]

Wow. First Beanie, now Jahvid. This draft affecting RB situations everywhere.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Detroit takes a a hit...

but they had NOTHING behind Best, so it makes since after his injuries.

So the hit it may be overstated. They had to have some talent (maybe one of the thinnest spots of any team in the entire NFL).

 

[Boom Switch]

Detroit takes a a hit...but they had NOTHING behind Best, so it makes since after his injuries.So the hit it may be overstated. They had to have some talent (maybe one of the thinnest spots of any team in the entire NFL).

Leshoure and Best? What a fantasy nightmare....

 

[Couch Potato]

Shane Vereen just taken by NE in the 2nd round. BJGE just took a hit.Interesting that 3 RB are off the board and LeShoure is still undrafted.

I would think Woodhead takes a bigger hit, Vereen is a good receiver and an average overall back.But certainly it doesnt help the total stats output for all Pat backs.

Could be right. Interesting pick in any event going with him rather than some of the other RBs still on the board.Oops, there went LeShoure to Det. Muddies that situation up some too.

 

[moderated]

Detroit takes a a hit...but they had NOTHING behind Best, so it makes since after his injuries.So the hit it may be overstated. They had to have some talent (maybe one of the thinnest spots of any team in the entire NFL).

Leshoure and Best? What a fantasy nightmare....

Best value :X Leshoure value :X Beanie value :XR.will value :X 1.04/1.05 rookie picks just lost tons of value

 

[Boom Switch]

Detroit takes a a hit...but they had NOTHING behind Best, so it makes since after his injuries.So the hit it may be overstated. They had to have some talent (maybe one of the thinnest spots of any team in the entire NFL).

Leshoure and Best? What a fantasy nightmare....

Best value :X Leshoure value :X Beanie value :XR.will value :X 1.04/1.05 rookie picks just lost tons of value

I have the 1.4 rookie pick in a 16 team dynasty league, not at all what i wanted....Ryan williams is the pick now for me but not at all happy with it..laaame

 

[Fighting Noles]

Whether or not Detroit takes a bigger sized RB (Goalline/banger between the 20's) in the first 3 or 4 rds. could have an impact on Best that not many here have accounted for - especially in Non-PPR formats (& maybe correctly so, if they don't take one, but I think they will).....Also, if St. Louis takes a "significant" 3rd down back/COP type rather early - that could impact SJax in PPR's.If the GMen make a move at RB - that will be important with Bradshaws' contract status up in the air.Also, what Tampa does/doesn't do will have a big impact on Blounts' value.I think Atlanta could surprise some Turner owners simply because he derives most of his value from being THE workhorse in that backfield.I think Moreno is more likely to be impacted by Free Agency than the draft, but with the CBA the way it is right nowsome teams may feel forced to take a shot at guys in the draft. Anything that makes him a 2 down back or much more of a RBBC member impacts his value obviously.Also agree on Washington & N.E. - the main ones to watch & good calls. I do think with about 10 "decent" 2-5 RD RB's out there that there will be more surprises/value changes @ RB after this weekend than in previous drafts.

I thought the air was coming out of the Best balloon....That was a big one IMO.

 

[Couch Potato]

Miami just traded up with Washington to grab RB Daniel Thomas. Thomas gets bumped up big time now.

And Washington passing on RB here has to make Torain owners happy... at least so far.

 

[moderated]

Miami just traded up with Washington to grab RB Daniel Thomas. Thomas gets bumped up big time now.And Washington passing on RB here has to make Torain owners happy... at least so far.

Daniel Thomas #4 in rookie drafts now?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Whether or not Detroit takes a bigger sized RB (Goalline/banger between the 20's) in the first 3 or 4 rds. could have an impact on Best that not many here have accounted for - especially in Non-PPR formats (& maybe correctly so, if they don't take one, but I think they will).....Also, if St. Louis takes a "significant" 3rd down back/COP type rather early - that could impact SJax in PPR's.If the GMen make a move at RB - that will be important with Bradshaws' contract status up in the air.Also, what Tampa does/doesn't do will have a big impact on Blounts' value.I think Atlanta could surprise some Turner owners simply because he derives most of his value from being THE workhorse in that backfield.I think Moreno is more likely to be impacted by Free Agency than the draft, but with the CBA the way it is right nowsome teams may feel forced to take a shot at guys in the draft. Anything that makes him a 2 down back or much more of a RBBC member impacts his value obviously.Also agree on Washington & N.E. - the main ones to watch & good calls. I do think with about 10 "decent" 2-5 RD RB's out there that there will be more surprises/value changes @ RB after this weekend than in previous drafts.

I thought the air was coming out of the Best balloon....That was a big one IMO.

Best looked phenomenal when healthy. Health is the key here.

 

[Couch Potato]

Miami just traded up with Washington to grab RB Daniel Thomas. Thomas gets bumped up big time now.And Washington passing on RB here has to make Torain owners happy... at least so far.

Daniel Thomas #4 in rookie drafts now?

Depends on when you draft, and if DeAngelo Williams will be stuck in CAR or can get free of there by FA (2011 RFA rules still uncertain) or trade and end up in MIA. It would be a big downer to take Thomas at #4 and then see DWill end up in MIA too. Guys who draft this weekend take a risk, guys who draft in August will know where things stand.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Best just lost his Goal-Line Carries

 

[menobrown]

Miami just traded up with Washington to grab RB Daniel Thomas. Thomas gets bumped up big time now.And Washington passing on RB here has to make Torain owners happy... at least so far.

Daniel Thomas #4 in rookie drafts now?

I think I'd rate him as the #1 rookie RB and #2 or #3 overall rook. MIA might will likely add another RB later but right now I think he's got the least resistance to getting a full load of any of the backs that have been taken and he's plenty talented.

 

[Couch Potato]

Another tenuous starter (like Torian) whose situation has been solidified by his team trading down and out of the top RB prospects is Marshawn Lynch SEA. They have pick #75 upcoming though, so we'll see what happens there (Murray?). They could take QB Mallett though if he's on the board, depending on BUF and ARI.

 

[Boom Switch]

Whether or not Detroit takes a bigger sized RB (Goalline/banger between the 20's) in the first 3 or 4 rds. could have an impact on Best that not many here have accounted for - especially in Non-PPR formats (& maybe correctly so, if they don't take one, but I think they will).....Also, if St. Louis takes a "significant" 3rd down back/COP type rather early - that could impact SJax in PPR's.If the GMen make a move at RB - that will be important with Bradshaws' contract status up in the air.Also, what Tampa does/doesn't do will have a big impact on Blounts' value.I think Atlanta could surprise some Turner owners simply because he derives most of his value from being THE workhorse in that backfield.I think Moreno is more likely to be impacted by Free Agency than the draft, but with the CBA the way it is right nowsome teams may feel forced to take a shot at guys in the draft. Anything that makes him a 2 down back or much more of a RBBC member impacts his value obviously.Also agree on Washington & N.E. - the main ones to watch & good calls. I do think with about 10 "decent" 2-5 RD RB's out there that there will be more surprises/value changes @ RB after this weekend than in previous drafts.

I thought the air was coming out of the Best balloon....That was a big one IMO.

Best looked phenomenal when healthy. Health is the key here.

I like a healthy best more than leshoure, especially in PPR leagues...

 

[joker]

Kansas City: No room for anyone here.

This is just every kind of wrong. Thomas Jones is clearly at the end of his career and there is a need for a back capable of 200 touches. KC ran 556 times last season and after assuming that they will increase Charles' attempts, they still need another back considering the current depth chart.

Could you explain where coming to KC would be great for a rookie RB assuming the guys on the KC roster already remain healthy? I see the TJ angle but I wasn't really planning on Jones being a big part of my team next year. With all the scrutiny that the HC has been thru in the local/national media, and then running Weiss out of town...hard for me to see Charles getting a diminished role from last season. He still might have to share some but I don't see him tossed to the side in 2011.And another thing since it was about 3 months since I posted in the shark pool, I write a fairly lengthy post because I thought GianMarco came up with an interesting thread topic. I don't believe my post assaulted anyone, wasn't posted as a 1up to anyone, none of that...yet low and behold I am being told that I am all sorts of wrong here.

I'm telling you guys...pretty soon its just gonna be Carolina Hustler and a few others biting back and forth on each other thru every thread in here. I'm really disappointed to see the put downs in an off season thread where we are all just trying to come up with some perspective while things are pretty quiet.

Thanks for your SP contribution.

Someone has thin skin, must still be feeling pretty bad after losing all that money on the Steelers.I tend to agree with TD here. The Chiefs led the league in rush attempts last year and Charles is the only decent Rb on the roster. Its not like Charles is AD either, he is not really the kind of back you want to give 400 touches.

The Chiefs will draft a RB in this draft, you can BACK THE TRUCK UP on that.

Edit, spelling

You guys are still missing MOP's point It doesn't matter if KC drafts an RB or not - the point of the thread is RB's who stand to gain or lose big based on the draft, and there's "nothing to see here" as far as KC is concerned. Like ADP, CJ, and the other stud RB's around the league, Jamaal Charles won't be affected by whatever RB they draft, because he's still going to get his carries, and should get even more than he got last year. In short, he WON'T GAIN OR LOSE BIG BASED ON THE DRAFT, as the thread title indicates.

Geez, I know MOP is an easy target, but let's show a little reading comprehension here, folks. Like others, I see DET, NE, NO, ARI, and MIA RB's as the big losers and so far WAS and GB backs as the big winners (at least up to this point in the draft since the teams haven't taken any RB's). Thomas & Vereen are shooting up the list in Dynasty rookie drafts, and I could easily see Thomas jumping to 1.2 in RB-heavy Dynasty leagues (heck, maybe even 1.1 if someone values his opportunity highly enough).

 

[cobalt_27]

Add Demarco Murray in the long list of RBs who have worthless value in rookie drafts.

 

[Shutout]

I wouldn't jump the gun on Best yet. I remember the coaches absolutely mad in love with him, trading up to get him, and making some references of wanting to use him as Chris Johnson is used. Last year they got a dose of reality that they have NOTHING behind Best so they addressed it in a big way with an inside runner.

So the net effect is we already knew Best wasn't going to be a 320+ carry chain mover so I honestly think not a lot has changed. Best is healthy and LeShoure becomes a better version of Kevin Smith, but overall this is still a team that wants Best to be a big part of what they are doing.

 

[Couch Potato]

Murray to Dallas puts the final nail in Tashard Choice's coffin, says what they really think of him. We knew Barber was gone, but Choice is back to strictly back up status rather than timeshare with Felix Jones once again.

 

[Couch Potato]

At this point the only undrafted rookie RBs that might make any real dent in vet values are possibly Todman and Hunter (and that's iffy). I don't see guys like Taiwan Jones, Helu, and the rest being looked at as more than role players.

 

[Shutout]

Murray to Dallas puts the final nail in Tashard Choice's coffin, says what they really think of him. We knew Barber was gone, but Choice is back to strictly back up status rather than timeshare with Felix Jones once again.

This seems like a move that puts a player similar to Jones on the field so maybe it is bad news for Choice but it gives Dallas a lot of flexibility. They can pretty much design plays for any down knowing they have the same type of back on the field at any given time.

 

[saintfool]

Murray to Dallas puts the final nail in Tashard Choice's coffin, says what they really think of him. We knew Barber was gone, but Choice is back to strictly back up status rather than timeshare with Felix Jones once again.

This seems like a move that puts a player similar to Jones on the field so maybe it is bad news for Choice but it gives Dallas a lot of flexibility. They can pretty much design plays for any down knowing they have the same type of back on the field at any given time.

or they could just draft a single player instead? why have 3 players for the job that a single player could do?

 

[Boom Switch]

Pierre Thomas the big loser so far......

I agree with Reggie Bush. He'll be the odd man and PT's role will remain the same.... at least in year one.

Why?

I agree that Reggie Bush is as good as gone, but I'm also curious what he means by the second part. I see Pierre Thomas as strictly a backup, and at best taking the thrid down role, at this point. If they traded back in for Ingram he's going to be the ball carrier in NO next season.I say this as a Thomas/Ivory owner so I'd love to be wrong.

You arent. Its never a good sign if you are an undrafted RB and the team you play for drafts a rb in round 1 lol.

 

[Crippler]

At this point the only undrafted rookie RBs that might make any real dent in vet values are possibly Todman and Hunter (and that's iffy). I don't see guys like Taiwan Jones, Helu, and the rest being looked at as more than role players.

I disagree with this. Give us the 4th round to see what happens with some of these backs. Remember that Shonn Greene is a 4th rounder along with lots of guys who impacted the RB position coming later. I dont think RB value out there wont continue to drop or that a guy will shoot up to be the 3rd overall fantasy RB in the early going now.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

At this point the only undrafted rookie RBs that might make any real dent in vet values are possibly Todman and Hunter (and that's iffy). I don't see guys like Taiwan Jones, Helu, and the rest being looked at as more than role players.

I disagree with this. Give us the 4th round to see what happens with some of these backs. Remember that Shonn Greene is a 4th rounder along with lots of guys who impacted the RB position coming later. I dont think RB value out there wont continue to drop or that a guy will shoot up to be the 3rd overall fantasy RB in the early going now.

Shone Greene was the first pick of the third round in a draft where the first two rounds were Day 1. The Jets traded up to get him.

 

[Couch Potato]

At this point the only undrafted rookie RBs that might make any real dent in vet values are possibly Todman and Hunter (and that's iffy). I don't see guys like Taiwan Jones, Helu, and the rest being looked at as more than role players.

I disagree with this. Give us the 4th round to see what happens with some of these backs. Remember that Shonn Greene is a 4th rounder along with lots of guys who impacted the RB position coming later. I dont think RB value out there wont continue to drop or that a guy will shoot up to be the 3rd overall fantasy RB in the early going now.

Shone Greene was the first pick of the third round in a draft where the first two rounds were Day 1. The Jets traded up to get him.

Thanks, beat me to it. It is very unusual for a 4th-7th rounder to be drafted to be a starter. While one here or there may eventually may get that role, it's seldom foreseeable in April. I mentioned Todman and Hunter as a couple who still may be possibilities but I'm not reaching in rookie drafts for any of the others, leaving good WRs and starting QBs on the board.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Pierre Thomas the big loser so far......

I agree with Reggie Bush. He'll be the odd man and PT's role will remain the same.... at least in year one.

I think Reggie will be in a different uniform this season and it depends on where he lands as to how high he will be valued. PT unless he is traded to New England or somewhere else is likely to play a limited role with Mark Ingram becoming a 3 down back.There is no way they keep all 4 (Ingram, Ivory, Bush and Thomas) Someone is gone and I think that someone has already tweeted his intentions to the world.

 

[shader]

There are so many rb's in the league right now that the position is going to do nothing but get more confusing. Elite bellcow rb's and WR's continue to gain value.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'm not sure I'd agree Torain is out of the woods yet. Shanahan is a coach who does believe you can draft starting RBs late in the draft.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I'm not sure I'd agree Torain is out of the woods yet. Shanahan is a coach who does believe you can draft starting RBs late in the draft.

If the Redskins draft Jacquizz Rogers, look out! He kinda reminds me of Portis.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Id be worried if i were the owner of a RB on a team that drafted Bilal Powell. The Colts, Bengals, Redskins and Bucs could all draft a guy right now that would end up starting for them at some point this season.

 

[jon_mx]

Reggie Bush to the Colts.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Reggie Bush to the Colts.

I was thinking Deangelo Williams. The Colts dont want to mess around, Peyton doesnt have a bunch of time left, they dont want to waste time with rookies or one dimensional RB's.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

At this point the only undrafted rookie RBs that might make any real dent in vet values are possibly Todman and Hunter (and that's iffy). I don't see guys like Taiwan Jones, Helu, and the rest being looked at as more than role players.

I disagree with this. Give us the 4th round to see what happens with some of these backs. Remember that Shonn Greene is a 4th rounder along with lots of guys who impacted the RB position coming later. I dont think RB value out there wont continue to drop or that a guy will shoot up to be the 3rd overall fantasy RB in the early going now.

Shone Greene was the first pick of the third round in a draft where the first two rounds were Day 1. The Jets traded up to get him.

....and he will already be 26 when / if the season starts. That's not good for a RB that hasn't been the starter. Throw in the mistrust with ball security and Greene spells risky RB long term for dynasty leagues.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I'm not sure I'd agree Torain is out of the woods yet. Shanahan is a coach who does believe you can draft starting RBs late in the draft.

Not worried about any rb job at this point including Torain, the shiny new toys are all long gone IMO. If you don't think Torain is out of the woods it sounds like you don't have much faith which is fine. I like torain more than lynch for example but any rb drafted by Seattle wouldn't make me worry about lynch either at this point.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I'm not sure I'd agree Torain is out of the woods yet. Shanahan is a coach who does believe you can draft starting RBs late in the draft.

Not worried about any rb job at this point including Torain, the shiny new toys are all long gone IMO. If you don't think Torain is out of the woods it sounds like you don't have much faith which is fine. I like torain more than lynch for example but any rb drafted by Seattle wouldn't make me worry about lynch either at this point.

Shanny trades up to take Helu! bye bye Torain.

 

[jurb26]

I'm not sure I'd agree Torain is out of the woods yet. Shanahan is a coach who does believe you can draft starting RBs late in the draft.

Not worried about any rb job at this point including Torain, the shiny new toys are all long gone IMO. If you don't think Torain is out of the woods it sounds like you don't have much faith which is fine. I like torain more than lynch for example but any rb drafted by Seattle wouldn't make me worry about lynch either at this point.

Shanny takes Helu! bye bye Torain.

Uh oh. So it begins, the Shanny RB voodoo mind tricks for all fantasy owners.

 

[renesauz]

Haven't heard of Helu as a potential starter before though...............

 

[Burning Sensation]

I'm not sure I'd agree Torain is out of the woods yet. Shanahan is a coach who does believe you can draft starting RBs late in the draft.

Not worried about any rb job at this point including Torain, the shiny new toys are all long gone IMO. If you don't think Torain is out of the woods it sounds like you don't have much faith which is fine. I like torain more than lynch for example but any rb drafted by Seattle wouldn't make me worry about lynch either at this point.

Shanny takes Helu! bye bye Torain.

Uh oh. So it begins, the Shanny RB voodoo mind tricks for all fantasy owners.

Shanny must really like Helu, he used an early 4th, and traded up to get it. Thats the equivalent of a late 1st/early 2nd for most teams.