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[jdoggydogg]

These are classic movies that hold up well and don't suffer from a ton of hype:

The Night of the Hunter

A Night At The Opera

Beauty and the Beast

Twelve Angry Men

Fail Safe

Rififi

Diabolique

Repulsion

Shadow of a Doubt

I would add Arsenic and Old Lace to this list, but YMMV.

I haven't seen that one.

 

[Mrs. ACP]

These are classic movies that hold up well and don't suffer from a ton of hype:

The Night of the Hunter

A Night At The Opera

Beauty and the Beast

Twelve Angry Men

Fail Safe

Rififi

Diabolique

Repulsion

Shadow of a Doubt

I would add Arsenic and Old Lace to this list, but YMMV.

I haven't seen that one.

I haven't watched it recently, but I remember being quite surprised by how much I liked it. Cary Grant and a pair of murderous, spinster aunts...comedic highjinks ensue...what's not to love?

 

[jdoggydogg]

These are classic movies that hold up well and don't suffer from a ton of hype:

The Night of the Hunter

A Night At The Opera

Beauty and the Beast

Twelve Angry Men

Fail Safe

Rififi

Diabolique

Repulsion

Shadow of a Doubt

I would add Arsenic and Old Lace to this list, but YMMV.

I haven't seen that one.

I haven't watched it recently, but I remember being quite surprised by how much I liked it. Cary Grant and a pair of murderous, spinster aunts...comedic highjinks ensue...what's not to love?

Sounds good. I loved Grant in Mr. Blanding's Builds His Dream House.

 

[Socrates11]

Persepolis- "Poignant coming-of-age story of a precocious and outspoken young Iranian girl that begins during the Islamic Revolution"

Am a fan of the graphic novels of the same name. Really enjoyed the movie. Seemed to flesh out some of the areas of the books and give them some added meaning. Makes me very sad that Iran could have been a great ally over in the Middle East with it's vibrant people, but instead became a batchiat crazy nation instead.

 

[yinzer]

There Will Be Blood

That's the first time I have ever seen Daniel Day-Lewis act

One of the most powerful performances I have ever seen. I thought the subject matter would bore me, but I was riveted throughout. The simple, repetitive score was effective in places too. I like movies that make me think. He was ruthless.

Ruthless, and yet his relationship with his son was very powerful.Other must-see Lewis movies:

My Left Foot

The Last of the Mohicans

In the Name of the Father

Gangs of New York

IMO, Last of the Mohicans is the greatest native american focused (i guess its more french and indian war focused, but..) movie ever madeIm sure theres a few Dances with Wolves fans here, but I think Last of the Mohicans takes the cake

If you dont think so, ask Magua

(and I think Gangs of New York is pretty underrated as..I remember it getting pretty bad reviews from critics and being talked about warmly by most, but I thought it was very well done)

I've seen Last of the Mohicans and Dances With Wolves recently. Wolves is a joke. It has aged very poorly. Every year that goes by makes Mohicans look like the far better movie.Gangs of New York is a great movie with a horrific performance by Cameron Diaz.

The New World by Mallick is probably at the top of the Native American list for me- but I really like Mohicans too. Too much like Thin Red Line for me to call it great, but still a really beautiful movie worth seeing. I like Little Big Man too.

Wolves... I'm not going out on a limb- but Costner just can't act. He also doesn't seem to direct actors to give very good performances... unless we're talking about Postman, in which case everything is genius.

Its too much like Thin Red Line?..really? Ans sadly, I actually did find Postman entertaining

 

[yinzer]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

 

[krista4]

Persepolis- "Poignant coming-of-age story of a precocious and outspoken young Iranian girl that begins during the Islamic Revolution"

Am a fan of the graphic novels of the same name. Really enjoyed the movie. Seemed to flesh out some of the areas of the books and give them some added meaning. Makes me very sad that Iran could have been a great ally over in the Middle East with it's vibrant people, but instead became a batchiat crazy nation instead.

Saw this one in the theatre and really enjoyed it as well. It taught me a lot about Iranian history that I either never knew or didn't remember. And I agree with your thoughts on Iran, in particular because I am a huge fan of a lot of Iranian directors and their movies. It's a beautiful country with extraordinary vibrant and talented people--unfortunately, those people are not in charge.

 

[yinzer]

Not sure if this was mentioned.Watched "We Own the Night" - Mark Walhberg, Jaquin Phoenix, Robert Duval. Pretty solid popcorn flick. A bit predictable but over all decent.Plus you get to see Eva Mendes boob

I consider Hollywood blockbuster movies popcorn flicks, but I guess if you wanna stretch this out a bit you could maybe call it one.That said, I really enjoyed this movie. Great acting all around (esp by Phoenix), and I thought the lighting, cinematography, background was excellent. I think its safe to assume family first, so that was predictable, but other than that I didnt really find it so predictable that it took anything away from everything else

 

[jdoggydogg]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

There's no doubt that a teenager can be a talented actor. But as is the case with a teenage guitar player, the technique is too easily revealed.

 

[hooter311]

Soylent Green - 5/10

Further proof that there are precious few movies worth watching that were made pre 1976.

That's a bold statement (and one I might agree with for the most part). Wondering why the cutoff is '76, though.

Because I think the "blockbuster" format, which started with Jaws in '76, has a lot going for it.The two biggest problems with movies like Soylent Green are:

1. The pacing is all off. Seems like every shot is a beat or two too long.

2. Lack of musical score to compliment the mood. Soylent Green, for example, has no music playing during the climax of the movie.

I guess I just like quick edits and soundtracks.

I always had a problem b/c to me in a lot of the old movies the actors seem wooden. It's as if they all speak a little faster and monotone or something (can't quite put my finger on it), but I do have problems sitting through a lot of old movies, which is unfortunate.

As a guy that likes old movies, I still agree. The fact is that acting in a lot of these classic films is awful. I like the movies, I like the camera work. But some of these classic films are entertaining in spite of their mediocre acting.

I agree that "some" are definitely worth while, but the hit rate is a lot less for me so I get frustrated and tend not to watch them. I could watch 10 recent movies and like 7-8 of them, or 10 old movies and like 1-2 of them.

I think that critics tend to glamorize the golden age of cinema and just assume that movies were better back then. I think that if you take 1940 - 1970 and then take 1970 to the present, you have a ton of bad movies in there. Somewhere around an 80% failure rate. But I wouldn't assert that any random modern movie is any better than any random classic film.

Maybe part of it is the hype/expectations that I have going into it. All of the "best of" lists are clustered with old movies, giving the illusion that they are to be that much better. That combined with the acting/pacing in the movies and I usually end up being disappointed more often.

Karma, I agree with you for the most part. "Classics" that I have seen recently that truely are great films were North By Northwest and The Great Escape. I don't watch movies made before 1975 very often, about 1/3 recommended I enjoy, except Westerns, love them all.

 

[hooter311]

A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints...Very well done coming of age story set in 1980's New York......very depressing but excellent performances by Chazz Palmenteri, Robert Downy Jr. and Shia LeBeuf......

I just watched this. It is excellent. The acting is outstanding and the whole movie is terrific.

Wanted to see this for a long time, but never got around to it. 4.5/5, anyone who grew up with good friends that eventually went the wrong direction in life or you were lucky enough to take the right direction will have trouble holding back tears at some parts. My only complaint was that the main character/writer of the story went a little too far by leaving that long, but he definitely had his reasons. I loved the opening line "Everyone in this movie, I left." Downey was terrific in a very understated performance, he barely said a few words but his face told the whole story. Chazz also took it down a notch and was great. I even bought Shia as a young Downey who I normally can't stand.Extremely depressing and that actor that walks in the room the last 30 seconds of the movie was a major turnoff just seeing his face, but like I said, if you grew up with close friends as a kid and some of them went the wrong way in life, you need to watch this movie.

 

[hooter311]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

There's no doubt that a teenager can be a talented actor. But as is the case with a teenage guitar player, the technique is too easily revealed.

I loved Brick and as another poster said if I had seen it in high school around the same time as Donnie Darko it would probably be considered one of my all time favorites, as a 20 something I give it 4/5. You would have trouble finding a better noir film made in the last 10 years.

 

[jamny]

A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints...Very well done coming of age story set in 1980's New York......very depressing but excellent performances by Chazz Palmenteri, Robert Downy Jr. and Shia LeBeuf......

I just watched this. It is excellent. The acting is outstanding and the whole movie is terrific.

Wanted to see this for a long time, but never got around to it. 4.5/5, anyone who grew up with good friends that eventually went the wrong direction in life or you were lucky enough to take the right direction will have trouble holding back tears at some parts. My only complaint was that the main character/writer of the story went a little too far by leaving that long, but he definitely had his reasons. I loved the opening line "Everyone in this movie, I left." Downey was terrific in a very understated performance, he barely said a few words but his face told the whole story. Chazz also took it down a notch and was great. I even bought Shia as a young Downey who I normally can't stand.Extremely depressing and that actor that walks in the room the last 30 seconds of the movie was a major turnoff just seeing his face, but like I said, if you grew up with close friends as a kid and some of them went the wrong way in life, you need to watch this movie.

wow, never heard of it but added and moved it to the top. edit: just checked out the trailer. Set in 1986, the year I started dating my wife (here in Queens)A turning point for me after some less than proud moments.Add to that some major headbutting between me and my late father and this might hit too close to home.Surprised I never heard of it before.

 

[El Floppo]

These are classic movies that hold up well and don't suffer from a ton of hype:

The Night of the Hunter

A Night At The Opera

Beauty and the Beast

Twelve Angry Men

Fail Safe

Rififi

Diabolique

Repulsion

Shadow of a Doubt

I would add Arsenic and Old Lace to this list, but YMMV.

I haven't seen that one.

I haven't watched it recently, but I remember being quite surprised by how much I liked it. Cary Grant and a pair of murderous, spinster aunts...comedic highjinks ensue...what's not to love?

Sounds good. I loved Grant in Mr. Blanding's Builds His Dream House.

I tell all of my clients to rent that.

 

[hooter311]

A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints...Very well done coming of age story set in 1980's New York......very depressing but excellent performances by Chazz Palmenteri, Robert Downy Jr. and Shia LeBeuf......

I just watched this. It is excellent. The acting is outstanding and the whole movie is terrific.

Wanted to see this for a long time, but never got around to it. 4.5/5, anyone who grew up with good friends that eventually went the wrong direction in life or you were lucky enough to take the right direction will have trouble holding back tears at some parts. My only complaint was that the main character/writer of the story went a little too far by leaving that long, but he definitely had his reasons. I loved the opening line "Everyone in this movie, I left." Downey was terrific in a very understated performance, he barely said a few words but his face told the whole story. Chazz also took it down a notch and was great. I even bought Shia as a young Downey who I normally can't stand.Extremely depressing and that actor that walks in the room the last 30 seconds of the movie was a major turnoff just seeing his face, but like I said, if you grew up with close friends as a kid and some of them went the wrong way in life, you need to watch this movie.

wow, never heard of it but added and moved it to the top. edit: just checked out the trailer. Set in 1986, the year I started dating my wife (here in Queens)A turning point for me after some less than proud moments.Add to that some major headbutting between me and my late father and this might hit too close to home.Surprised I never heard of it before.

You will be very impressed and touched by this film.

 

[El Floppo]

There Will Be Blood

That's the first time I have ever seen Daniel Day-Lewis act

One of the most powerful performances I have ever seen. I thought the subject matter would bore me, but I was riveted throughout. The simple, repetitive score was effective in places too. I like movies that make me think. He was ruthless.

Ruthless, and yet his relationship with his son was very powerful.Other must-see Lewis movies:

My Left Foot

The Last of the Mohicans

In the Name of the Father

Gangs of New York

IMO, Last of the Mohicans is the greatest native american focused (i guess its more french and indian war focused, but..) movie ever madeIm sure theres a few Dances with Wolves fans here, but I think Last of the Mohicans takes the cake

If you dont think so, ask Magua

(and I think Gangs of New York is pretty underrated as..I remember it getting pretty bad reviews from critics and being talked about warmly by most, but I thought it was very well done)

I've seen Last of the Mohicans and Dances With Wolves recently. Wolves is a joke. It has aged very poorly. Every year that goes by makes Mohicans look like the far better movie.Gangs of New York is a great movie with a horrific performance by Cameron Diaz.

The New World by Mallick is probably at the top of the Native American list for me- but I really like Mohicans too. Too much like Thin Red Line for me to call it great, but still a really beautiful movie worth seeing. I like Little Big Man too.

Wolves... I'm not going out on a limb- but Costner just can't act. He also doesn't seem to direct actors to give very good performances... unless we're talking about Postman, in which case everything is genius.

Its too much like Thin Red Line?..really? Ans sadly, I actually did find Postman entertaining

Are you disagreeing or just asking? I thought the craft and theme of it was identical to TRL... felt like the same movie just set in different times with different characters... ok- and a little differnt plot. And I should say- I love Thin Red Line,And I love the Postman ... even Waterworld. For some reason, the post-apocolyptic thing works for me, even when cringingly directed and acted by Costner.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Persepolis- "Poignant coming-of-age story of a precocious and outspoken young Iranian girl that begins during the Islamic Revolution"

Am a fan of the graphic novels of the same name. Really enjoyed the movie. Seemed to flesh out some of the areas of the books and give them some added meaning. Makes me very sad that Iran could have been a great ally over in the Middle East with it's vibrant people, but instead became a batchiat crazy nation instead.

Saw this one in the theatre and really enjoyed it as well. It taught me a lot about Iranian history that I either never knew or didn't remember. And I agree with your thoughts on Iran, in particular because I am a huge fan of a lot of Iranian directors and their movies. It's a beautiful country with extraordinary vibrant and talented people--unfortunately, those people are not in charge.

I have not yet seen the movie. I am a huge fan of the book and have used it in teaching 2D design. I had dinner with author and director Marjane Satrapi after she gave a lecture at my college. She has an unbelievable presence and is a riveting story teller.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

There's no doubt that a teenager can be a talented actor. But as is the case with a teenage guitar player, the technique is too easily revealed.

I loved Brick and as another poster said if I had seen it in high school around the same time as Donnie Darko it would probably be considered one of my all time favorites, as a 20 something I give it 4/5. You would have trouble finding a better noir film made in the last 10 years.

Ahhhhhh trick question. No one makes film noir anymore Sin City is a literal homage to noir. I'd rather watch that than Brick. After Dark, My Sweet was 20 times better, but that was 1990.

 

[jdoggydogg]

These are classic movies that hold up well and don't suffer from a ton of hype:

The Night of the Hunter

A Night At The Opera

Beauty and the Beast

Twelve Angry Men

Fail Safe

Rififi

Diabolique

Repulsion

Shadow of a Doubt

I would add Arsenic and Old Lace to this list, but YMMV.

I haven't seen that one.

I haven't watched it recently, but I remember being quite surprised by how much I liked it. Cary Grant and a pair of murderous, spinster aunts...comedic highjinks ensue...what's not to love?

Sounds good. I loved Grant in Mr. Blanding's Builds His Dream House.

I tell all of my clients to rent that.

You're a real estate agent?

 

[hooter311]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

There's no doubt that a teenager can be a talented actor. But as is the case with a teenage guitar player, the technique is too easily revealed.

I loved Brick and as another poster said if I had seen it in high school around the same time as Donnie Darko it would probably be considered one of my all time favorites, as a 20 something I give it 4/5. You would have trouble finding a better noir film made in the last 10 years.

Ahhhhhh trick question. No one makes film noir anymore Sin City is a literal homage to noir. I'd rather watch that than Brick. After Dark, My Sweet was 20 times better, but that was 1990.

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Soylent Green - 5/10

Further proof that there are precious few movies worth watching that were made pre 1976.

That's a bold statement (and one I might agree with for the most part). Wondering why the cutoff is '76, though.

Because I think the "blockbuster" format, which started with Jaws in '76, has a lot going for it.The two biggest problems with movies like Soylent Green are:

1. The pacing is all off. Seems like every shot is a beat or two too long.

2. Lack of musical score to compliment the mood. Soylent Green, for example, has no music playing during the climax of the movie.

I guess I just like quick edits and soundtracks.

I always had a problem b/c to me in a lot of the old movies the actors seem wooden. It's as if they all speak a little faster and monotone or something (can't quite put my finger on it), but I do have problems sitting through a lot of old movies, which is unfortunate.

As a guy that likes old movies, I still agree. The fact is that acting in a lot of these classic films is awful. I like the movies, I like the camera work. But some of these classic films are entertaining in spite of their mediocre acting.

I agree that "some" are definitely worth while, but the hit rate is a lot less for me so I get frustrated and tend not to watch them. I could watch 10 recent movies and like 7-8 of them, or 10 old movies and like 1-2 of them.

I think that critics tend to glamorize the golden age of cinema and just assume that movies were better back then. I think that if you take 1940 - 1970 and then take 1970 to the present, you have a ton of bad movies in there. Somewhere around an 80% failure rate. But I wouldn't assert that any random modern movie is any better than any random classic film.

Maybe part of it is the hype/expectations that I have going into it. All of the "best of" lists are clustered with old movies, giving the illusion that they are to be that much better. That combined with the acting/pacing in the movies and I usually end up being disappointed more often.

Karma, I agree with you for the most part. "Classics" that I have seen recently that truely are great films were North By Northwest and The Great Escape. I don't watch movies made before 1975 very often, about 1/3 recommended I enjoy, except Westerns, love them all.

Don't think that I haven't liked any Hitchcock that I've watched - those are well worth the viewing. As a rule I usually don't like westerns, so that takes out a huge chunk of the pre-70s classics for me. Another older movie that I always recommend people checking out is The Killing. One of Kubrick's first movies and I was hella impressed with it the first time I saw it - kinda like Reservoir Dogs, but made in the 60s.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

There's no doubt that a teenager can be a talented actor. But as is the case with a teenage guitar player, the technique is too easily revealed.

I loved Brick and as another poster said if I had seen it in high school around the same time as Donnie Darko it would probably be considered one of my all time favorites, as a 20 something I give it 4/5. You would have trouble finding a better noir film made in the last 10 years.

Ahhhhhh trick question. No one makes film noir anymore Sin City is a literal homage to noir. I'd rather watch that than Brick. After Dark, My Sweet was 20 times better, but that was 1990.

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Was just having this discussion/argument about those two with a friend a couple months ago. He blasted me because I said something on the lines of: I have trouble watching their stuff anymore b/c it seems to me they are just putting stuff together so they can watch it at home and masterbate to just how cool they think they are. Seems like all the critical acclaim has gone to their heads (I guess mostly Tarantino- not sure how "critically acclaimed" Rodriguez is).

 

[hooter311]

There Will Be Blood

That's the first time I have ever seen Daniel Day-Lewis act

One of the most powerful performances I have ever seen. I thought the subject matter would bore me, but I was riveted throughout. The simple, repetitive score was effective in places too. I like movies that make me think. He was ruthless.

Ruthless, and yet his relationship with his son was very powerful.Other must-see Lewis movies:

My Left Foot

The Last of the Mohicans

In the Name of the Father

Gangs of New York

IMO, Last of the Mohicans is the greatest native american focused (i guess its more french and indian war focused, but..) movie ever madeIm sure theres a few Dances with Wolves fans here, but I think Last of the Mohicans takes the cake

If you dont think so, ask Magua

(and I think Gangs of New York is pretty underrated as..I remember it getting pretty bad reviews from critics and being talked about warmly by most, but I thought it was very well done)

I've seen Last of the Mohicans and Dances With Wolves recently. Wolves is a joke. It has aged very poorly. Every year that goes by makes Mohicans look like the far better movie.Gangs of New York is a great movie with a horrific performance by Cameron Diaz.

The New World by Mallick is probably at the top of the Native American list for me- but I really like Mohicans too. Too much like Thin Red Line for me to call it great, but still a really beautiful movie worth seeing. I like Little Big Man too.

Wolves... I'm not going out on a limb- but Costner just can't act. He also doesn't seem to direct actors to give very good performances... unless we're talking about Postman, in which case everything is genius.

Its too much like Thin Red Line?..really? Ans sadly, I actually did find Postman entertaining

Are you disagreeing or just asking? I thought the craft and theme of it was identical to TRL... felt like the same movie just set in different times with different characters... ok- and a little differnt plot. And I should say- I love Thin Red Line,And I love the Postman ... even Waterworld. For some reason, the post-apocolyptic thing works for me, even when cringingly directed and acted by Costner.

Wait a second.....there is Costner hating going on here? Blasphemy! Say what you will about his talent or style or whatever, but Costner flat out gets it done. I'll watch anything with Kevin Costner in it, everything except Thirteen Days. But if I was stuck on an island and could only watch one actor's movie career, give me Costner in a heart beat.1. Tin Cup

2. Open Range

3. Silverado

4. Prince of Thieves

5. Waterworld

6. Bull Durham

7. Untouchables

8. The War

9. Field of Dreams

10. Wyatt Earp

11. Mr. Brooks

12. Postman

13. The Guardian

14. Dances With Wolves

15. Revenge

I don't even have room on the list for Love of the Game, JFK, or the Bodyguard

Thats 18 movies I would give 3.5 stars or better, probably 12 of them are 4 stars.

 

[KarmaPolice]

There Will Be Blood

That's the first time I have ever seen Daniel Day-Lewis act

One of the most powerful performances I have ever seen. I thought the subject matter would bore me, but I was riveted throughout. The simple, repetitive score was effective in places too. I like movies that make me think. He was ruthless.

Ruthless, and yet his relationship with his son was very powerful.Other must-see Lewis movies:

My Left Foot

The Last of the Mohicans

In the Name of the Father

Gangs of New York

IMO, Last of the Mohicans is the greatest native american focused (i guess its more french and indian war focused, but..) movie ever madeIm sure theres a few Dances with Wolves fans here, but I think Last of the Mohicans takes the cake

If you dont think so, ask Magua

(and I think Gangs of New York is pretty underrated as..I remember it getting pretty bad reviews from critics and being talked about warmly by most, but I thought it was very well done)

I've seen Last of the Mohicans and Dances With Wolves recently. Wolves is a joke. It has aged very poorly. Every year that goes by makes Mohicans look like the far better movie.Gangs of New York is a great movie with a horrific performance by Cameron Diaz.

The New World by Mallick is probably at the top of the Native American list for me- but I really like Mohicans too. Too much like Thin Red Line for me to call it great, but still a really beautiful movie worth seeing. I like Little Big Man too.

Wolves... I'm not going out on a limb- but Costner just can't act. He also doesn't seem to direct actors to give very good performances... unless we're talking about Postman, in which case everything is genius.

Its too much like Thin Red Line?..really? Ans sadly, I actually did find Postman entertaining

Are you disagreeing or just asking? I thought the craft and theme of it was identical to TRL... felt like the same movie just set in different times with different characters... ok- and a little differnt plot. And I should say- I love Thin Red Line,And I love the Postman ... even Waterworld. For some reason, the post-apocolyptic thing works for me, even when cringingly directed and acted by Costner.

Wait a second.....there is Costner hating going on here? Blasphemy! Say what you will about his talent or style or whatever, but Costner flat out gets it done. I'll watch anything with Kevin Costner in it, everything except Thirteen Days. But if I was stuck on an island and could only watch one actor's movie career, give me Costner in a heart beat.1. Tin Cup

2. Open Range

3. Silverado

4. Prince of Thieves

5. Waterworld

6. Bull Durham

7. Untouchables

8. The War

9. Field of Dreams

10. Wyatt Earp

11. Mr. Brooks

12. Postman

13. The Guardian

14. Dances With Wolves

15. Revenge

I don't even have room on the list for Love of the Game, JFK, or the Bodyguard

Thats 18 movies I would give 3.5 stars or better, probably 12 of them are 4 stars.

LOL. I look at that list and the only ones I'd consider watching again are JFK and Tin Cup. To be fair, people disagree with me all the time about Tom Cruise's movies. I would take his movies in a heartbeat over Costner's though.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Was just having this discussion/argument about those two with a friend a couple months ago. He blasted me because I said something on the lines of: I have trouble watching their stuff anymore b/c it seems to me they are just putting stuff together so they can watch it at home and masterbate to just how cool they think they are. Seems like all the critical acclaim has gone to their heads (I guess mostly Tarantino- not sure how "critically acclaimed" Rodriguez is).

I disagree. I think they are both at a point in their careers where they can make exactly the movies THEY want to make, not what Hollywood wants to make. Personally, I don't think big Hollywood could have an original idea if their lives depended on it. And there's Tarantino and Rodriguez, who can make contemporary samurai movies, or throwbacks to 70's grindhouse cinema, or whatever they want. And frankly, I applaud them for it, and enjoy their movies very much. You don't see either one of them remaking Halloween, or whatever Asian horror film is the latest to come along.

 

[hooter311]

Playing a bit of catch-up:

Watched Brick with the wife last night. Dialog extremely over the top. My comment to my wife was "It was a bit chessy, yet entertaining. But if I was back in high school and this was out, I would have obsessed over it well into my early college years."

This is a very highly-acclaimed movie I just don't get. I loved the concept of a film noir set in high school. Problem is, most young people are ####ty actors.

I agree, especially early in the movie when nothing was really known yet, it was a bit too over the top in seriousness. As it went on though, I thought this improved a bit. I dont think it ever really got to the point of cheesy though.And yes, there arent many very good young actors, but theres probably about a dozen and I think Joe Gordon-Levitt is in the group. I thought he was very good in this, as hes has been in most of his recent movies (Angels in the Outfield notwithstanding)

There's no doubt that a teenager can be a talented actor. But as is the case with a teenage guitar player, the technique is too easily revealed.

I loved Brick and as another poster said if I had seen it in high school around the same time as Donnie Darko it would probably be considered one of my all time favorites, as a 20 something I give it 4/5. You would have trouble finding a better noir film made in the last 10 years.

Ahhhhhh trick question. No one makes film noir anymore :( Sin City is a literal homage to noir. I'd rather watch that than Brick. After Dark, My Sweet was 20 times better, but that was 1990.

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Was just having this discussion/argument about those two with a friend a couple months ago. He blasted me because I said something on the lines of: I have trouble watching their stuff anymore b/c it seems to me they are just putting stuff together so they can watch it at home and masterbate to just how cool they think they are. Seems like all the critical acclaim has gone to their heads (I guess mostly Tarantino- not sure how "critically acclaimed" Rodriguez is).

When I had a film class in college you had no idea the tools I had to put up with that considered Pulp Fiction the greatest movie of all time, I remember about having to hear their shot by shot review of Kill Bill volume 1 when it came out around the same time and wanting to puncture my own ear drums. There were a lot of cool scenes and one liners in the Kill Bill movies but as a whole they are too much, too often for me to enjoy. Maybe I am just a hater. Like I said everything including and before From Dusk Till Dawn I really enjoyed of theirs.I wish I could find a video of this SNL skit:

http://www.fakenews.net/archive/impression...o_98_01_10.html

 

[hooter311]

There Will Be Blood

That's the first time I have ever seen Daniel Day-Lewis act :(

One of the most powerful performances I have ever seen. I thought the subject matter would bore me, but I was riveted throughout. The simple, repetitive score was effective in places too. I like movies that make me think. He was ruthless.

Ruthless, and yet his relationship with his son was very powerful.Other must-see Lewis movies:

My Left Foot

The Last of the Mohicans

In the Name of the Father

Gangs of New York

IMO, Last of the Mohicans is the greatest native american focused (i guess its more french and indian war focused, but..) movie ever madeIm sure theres a few Dances with Wolves fans here, but I think Last of the Mohicans takes the cake

If you dont think so, ask Magua

(and I think Gangs of New York is pretty underrated as..I remember it getting pretty bad reviews from critics and being talked about warmly by most, but I thought it was very well done)

I've seen Last of the Mohicans and Dances With Wolves recently. Wolves is a joke. It has aged very poorly. Every year that goes by makes Mohicans look like the far better movie.Gangs of New York is a great movie with a horrific performance by Cameron Diaz.

The New World by Mallick is probably at the top of the Native American list for me- but I really like Mohicans too. Too much like Thin Red Line for me to call it great, but still a really beautiful movie worth seeing. I like Little Big Man too.

Wolves... I'm not going out on a limb- but Costner just can't act. He also doesn't seem to direct actors to give very good performances... unless we're talking about Postman, in which case everything is genius.

Its too much like Thin Red Line?..really? Ans sadly, I actually did find Postman entertaining

Are you disagreeing or just asking? I thought the craft and theme of it was identical to TRL... felt like the same movie just set in different times with different characters... ok- and a little differnt plot. And I should say- I love Thin Red Line,And I love the Postman ... even Waterworld. For some reason, the post-apocolyptic thing works for me, even when cringingly directed and acted by Costner.

Wait a second.....there is Costner hating going on here? Blasphemy! Say what you will about his talent or style or whatever, but Costner flat out gets it done. I'll watch anything with Kevin Costner in it, everything except Thirteen Days. But if I was stuck on an island and could only watch one actor's movie career, give me Costner in a heart beat.1. Tin Cup

2. Open Range

3. Silverado

4. Prince of Thieves

5. Waterworld

6. Bull Durham

7. Untouchables

8. The War

9. Field of Dreams

10. Wyatt Earp

11. Mr. Brooks

12. Postman

13. The Guardian

14. Dances With Wolves

15. Revenge

I don't even have room on the list for Love of the Game, JFK, or the Bodyguard

Thats 18 movies I would give 3.5 stars or better, probably 12 of them are 4 stars.

LOL. I look at that list and the only ones I'd consider watching again are JFK and Tin Cup. To be fair, people disagree with me all the time about Tom Cruise's movies. I would take his movies in a heartbeat over Costner's though.

Well, also to be fair, Cruise would be 2nd on my list he doesn't have a lot of clunkers in my book, 3rd Paul Newman.and as long as you like Tin Cup, that will do as a Costner fan.

ETA: This is the first time in my life of hearing someone say they didn't enjoy Silverado, unless you haven't seen it.

 

[hooter311]

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Was just having this discussion/argument about those two with a friend a couple months ago. He blasted me because I said something on the lines of: I have trouble watching their stuff anymore b/c it seems to me they are just putting stuff together so they can watch it at home and masterbate to just how cool they think they are. Seems like all the critical acclaim has gone to their heads (I guess mostly Tarantino- not sure how "critically acclaimed" Rodriguez is).

I disagree. I think they are both at a point in their careers where they can make exactly the movies THEY want to make, not what Hollywood wants to make. Personally, I don't think big Hollywood could have an original idea if their lives depended on it. And there's Tarantino and Rodriguez, who can make contemporary samurai movies, or throwbacks to 70's grindhouse cinema, or whatever they want. And frankly, I applaud them for it, and enjoy their movies very much. You don't see either one of them remaking Halloween, or whatever Asian horror film is the latest to come along.

Fair enough that you can enjoy them for making what they want to make, but instead of stealing from just one movie, they steal from hundreds, almost every scene in Kill Bill and Grindhouse was "borrowed" from somewhere. They copy scene for scene more than anyone I can think of in the business. They get away with it because it is usually combined with another "borrowed" scene from something so obscure 98% of the public wouldn't have ever seen it let alone remember the scene.

 

[MCguidance]

Not sure if anyone has seen it or it's even out yet, but do yourself a favor and watch Taken, with Liam Neeson. If you like action and quick moving movies, this will not disappoint, trust me.

 

[saintfool]

Ahhhhhh trick question. No one makes film noir anymore Sin City is a literal homage to noir. I'd rather watch that than Brick. After Dark, My Sweet was 20 times better, but that was 1990.

I can't bring myself to watch "Sin City". Rodriguez is a hack, pure and simple. I wouldn't trust him to film a bar mitzvah. I don't understand the hate for "Brick" though. Its biggest indulgence is the world it creates and sustains. The acting might be the ***** in the armor but how much of that is the dialogue really? All this talk of late in the thread about "older" movies and how they don't hold up. Why? The characters, the scripts, et al. "Brick" is a throwback to noir films and perhaps suffers from the shortcomings of the genre. I can't bring myself to penalize a film that so fully realizes its dream. I was thoroughly entertained by it but then I'm maybe more so a sucker for the older films than other folks here.Nice call on "After Dark...", btw.

 

[hooter311]

Example: Kill Bill 1 & 2 References from IMDB:

Kill Bill 1

The House Without a Key (1926)

- "Son Number One" quotes

The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog (1927)

- The scene where The Bride picks up her sword from the floor is a reference to this film.

Citizen Kane (1941)

- A shot of The Bride lying in a coma, silhouetted against her hospital window replicates a shot from early in Citizen Kane.

Scaramouche (1952)

- The Bride versus Johnny Mo on the railing fighting

"Alfred Hitchcock Presents: Breakdown (#1.7)" (1955)

- The shot of The Bride's toes during the "Wiggle your big toe" scene replicates a shot of William Callew's feet in this episode.

The Wings of Eagles (1957)

- The Bride talking to her toes.

Tirez sur le pianiste (1960)

- Identical shot of a finger ringing a doorbell.

The Magnificent Seven (1960)

- The knife-gun exchange mirrors the introduction of Coburn's character

Yojimbo (1961)

- Arterial spurts, plus the last of the Crazy 88 is spared and told to go home to mother just as in "Yojimbo."

The Manchurian Candidate (1962)

- The introduction to the fight between Thurman and fox parallels the fight between Sinatra and Silva

Marnie (1964)

- The shots of Daryl Hannah walking down the hospital corridor with a big purse are right out of the beginning of "Marnie" with Tippi Hedren.

Per un pugno di dollari (1964)

- Was one of three films shown to Uma Thurman to prepare her for her role as The Bride.

"Honey West" (1965)

- The look of Honey West influenced the look of the DIVAS.

Da zui xia (1966)

Tôkyô nagaremono (1966)

- Yakuzas; fight scene between The Bride and the Crazy 88s similar to Tetsu fighting yakuzas; mad go-go music; monochrome and fight on color background in both films

Modesty Blaise (1966)

- The look of Modesty Blaise influenced the look of the DIVAS.

"Star Trek" (1966)

- The Bride says that Sofie Fatale is dressed like a villain from 'Star Trek'.

"The Green Hornet" (1966)

- Al Hirt's theme music for 'The Green Hornet' is heard when The Bride rides her motorcycle through Tokyo. The Kato masks worn by The Crazy 88 are also taken from the one worn by Bruce Lee on this show.

Navajo Joe (1966)

- The axe to the head that one of the Crazy 88's gets during the fight between the Bride and the Crazy 88's is a reference to the end of Navajo Joe when Duncan gets an axe to the head.

Made in U.S.A. (1966)

- The bleeping out of The Bride's true name.

Da uomo a uomo (1967)

- The film's theme heard when The Bride calls out O-Ren in The House of Blue Leaves; The extreme closeup of the eyes followed by a bright orange/yellow flashback of the massacre.

Lunghi giorni della vendetta, I (1967)

- The music heard in the anime sequence when O-Ren's father is stabbed and the camera pans up to show the sword and the killer is music from the spaghetti western.

Scandale, Le (1967)

- The overhead shots of The Bride in Vernita Green's house.

"Ironside" (1967)

- A score excerpt from 'Ironside''s theme music is used when The Bride sees one of her attackers.

Giorni dell'ira, I (1967)

- Music from ''Day of Anger'' is heard during the fight between The Bride and the Crazy 88's when the screen changes from color to black and white.

Kyuketsuki Gokemidoro (1968)

- the orange sunset sky behind the airplane, Tarantino took the look from the opening scenes from this film.

Mariée était en noir, La (1968)

- Same plot.

Mercenario, Il (1968)

- The design for the list of targets seen in the movie is taken directly from the list shown in 'A Professional Gun'; I.E. there are five things on the list, the fifth item is fully capitalized and underlined twice, etc.

Twisted Nerve (1968)

- The theme of 'Twisted Nerve' is whistled during the hospital scene as a direct reference.

C'era una volta il West (1968)

- Revenge film where Charles Bronson kills the man who killed his brother (Charles Bronson receiving a special thanks credit in "Kill Bill" post-mortem.

The Wild Bunch (1969)

Xiao quan wang (1971)

A Clockwork Orange (1971)

- The men and women walking down the hallway wearing masks and carrying their holstered swords like Alex and his droogs.

Hannie Caulder (1971)

- As explained by Tarantino in an interview

Jing wu men (1972)

- The Crazy 88 fight on the floor where she attacks all their feet is based on Bruce's first fight with the school, he hits all their feet with nunchaku and they fall writhing in pain, just like in Kill Bill vol.1

Tian xia di yi quan (1972)

- The sound effect when the hero applies the deadly iron fist move is the same sound we hear when Uma Thurman's The Bride sees Vivica Fox and Lucy Liu.

Kozure Ôkami: Shinikazeni mukau ubaguruma (1972)

- One vs. an army of swordfighters; The tongue being bitten out in the attempted rapeis exactly the same as in 'Lone Wolf and Cub: Babycart to Hades'.

Joshuu 701-gô: Sasori (1972)

- uses the same music in both films "urami-bushi" and in vol 2 the bride rips out her attempted rapist's tongue just like in Joshuu 701-gô: Sasor

The Last House on the Left (1972)

Novia ensangrentada, La (1972)

Grande duello, Il (1972)

- The theme of this film is heard in 'Vol. 1', 'M10' when The Bride lay in the ##### Wagon trying to wiggle her big toe, and 'Parte Prima' during the animated sequence.

Shurayukihime (1973)

- Many connections, including; both being female revenge films; the duel in the snow covered garden; the division into chapters; the camera angle looking up at the heroine's attackers looking down at her; the animated sequence; the song "Flower of Carnage", sung by Meiko Kaji who is the star of 'Lady Snowblood', is heard in 'Vol. 1'.

Black Mama, White Mama (1973)

- The Bride being choked by Gogo's chain is mirrored in 'Black Mama' by the scene where Lee and Karen strangle the warden with their shared chain; Score heard during the Crazy 88 bloodbath is taken from this film.

Furyô anego den: Inoshika Ochô (1973)

- The fight in the snow is a reference to the battles early in Sex and Fury.

Coffy (1973)

- The scene in which Vernita and The Bride stand deadlocked in a blade fight mirrors the scene between Harriet & Coffy. Vernita also uses Harriet's line from this scene; "Come on, #####!"; 'Coffy' was also one of three films shown to Uma Thurman to prepare her for her role as The Bride.

White Lightning (1973)

- Kill Bill uses the theme from "White Lightning" when The Bride fights the Crazy 88 at the House of Blue Leaves

The Doll Squad (1973)

- The look of The Doll Squad influenced the look of the DIVAS.

Shura-yuki-hime: Urami Renga (1974)

- Influenced by

Yamaguchi-gumi gaiden: Kyushu shinko-sakusen (1974)

- The tattoo designs that cover Boss Matsumoto's back and arms are taken directly from the tattoos Yozakura wears in 'The Tattooed Hitman'.

Tough Guys (1974)

- The theme from Three Tough Guys is heard in Kill Bill Vol. 1. during the anime sequence when O-Ren is on the top of the building.

Truck Turner (1974)

- The main theme of 'Truck Turner' is used in the scene where The Bride is trying to find the ##### Wagon in her wheelchair.

Thriller - en grym film (1974)

- Elle Driver from Kill Bill and Madeleine share numerous physical traits (eye patch, long coat, pant suit). Also, several of the fight scenes in Kill Bill mimic this film, with slow motion and eerie sound effects.

Crash che botte! (1974)

- Go Go's Ball and Chain hand weapon.

Gone in 60 Seconds (1974)

- Row of sunglasses on dashboard of sherrif's car - same gag in opening scene.

Onna hissatsu ken (1974)

The Yakuza (1974)

- When The Bride's sword gets stuck in one of the Crazy 88s, the scene closely mirrors a scene in The Yakuza where the same thing happens to Ken Takakura's charcter. The overhead shot in this scene is also the same.

Du bi quan wang da po xue di zi (1975)

- Uses villain's theme from this film and character in "Kill Bill" uses a variation on the Flying Guillotine device. Uma Thurman's approach to Lucy Liu's character up the stairs includes her hiding on the ceiling in the same manner as the villain on the final approach of this film.

Kenka karate kyokushinken (1975)

- The theme music of 'Champion of Death' is used in the "House of Blue Leaves" finale.

Profondo rosso (1975)

Black Sunday (1977)

- As explained by Tarantino n an interview

Eaten Alive (1977)

- In "Kill Bill: Vol. 1," the hospital attendant 'Buck' delivers the line: "My name's Buck. I'm ready to ####." This quote was originally spoken by Robert Englund in "Eaten Alive."

Sette note in nero (1977)

- The score heard as The Bride is about to attack and kill Buck is taken from 'Murder to the Tune of the Seven Black Notes'.

Yagyû ichizoku no inbô (1978)

Game of Death (1978)

- Uma Thurman's yellow track-suit is a direct homage to the one worn by Bruce Lee in Game of Death (1978).

Grease (1978)

- The ##### Wagon takes it's name from the 'Greased Lightning' lyric, "She's a real ##### Wagon".

Wu du (1978)

- 'The Five Deadly Venoms' inspired 'The Deadly Viper Assassination Squad'; sounds effects used in 'Vol. 1' (Sword Swings, Axe Throws) are taken from this film.

Death Force (1978)

- (dialogue)

Se ying diu sau (1978)

- The scene where The Bride slices her enemy's weapon to pieces is taken directly from 'Snake in the Eagle's Shadow'.

Patrick (1978)

- The scene where the comatose bride spits.

Day of the Woman (1978)

"Yagyû ichizoku no inbô" (1979)

- The theme for "Yagyuu Conspiracy" is heard as background music for the "second reason" speech.

Hao xia (1979)

"Hattori Hanzô: Kage no Gundan" (1980)

- Stars Sonny Chiba as Hattori Hanzo. In Kill Bill, Chiba's Hanzo is a distant relative of the original Hattori Hanzo. Much inspiration for Kill Bill came from Season 4, including Lucy Liu's character O-Ren Ishii being named after Sue Shihomi's character O-Ren in Season 4.

Friday the 13th (1980)

- Slow mo & music cue before Mrs. Voorhees' decapitation matches cues before Buck's achilles heel slicing

Apocalypse domani (1980)

- Tongue tearing from mouth to mouth scene

Paura nella città dei morti viventi (1980)

- The scene where blood runs out of Gogo Yubari's eyes.

Resurrection (1980)

- The "wiggle your big toe" sequence in Kill Bill pt. 1 is basically the same. Ellen Burstyn's character is paralyzed from the waist down as a result of an injury, whilst sitting in her wheelchair, she tells herself constantly "wiggle your big toe"...

Shogun Assassin (1980)

- When The Bride cleans the blood off her sword by swinging it, and also when she uses her fist to hit and stop the vibrating of her sword in a victim are moves both from 'Shogun Assassin'.

Si wang ta (1981)

Escape from New York (1981)

- Daryl Hannah plays Califorinia Mountian Snake, she sports an eye patch and a smoking habit as well as attitude, a referance to Snake Plissken

Dead & Buried (1981)

- The shot of Elle Driver leaning in close to The Bride's comatose body in the hospital, disguised as a nurse replicates a shot from this film.

Makai tenshô (1981)

- Line: "If you encounter God, God will be cut."

Venom (1981)

- Black Mamba Codename

Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

- the "old klingon proverb" at the start of the film was originally quoted by Khan in ST II

Tenebre (1982)

- The shot where The Bride chops off Sophie's arm is similar to the scene in Tenebrae where Jane (Veronica Lario) turns around with her arm chopped. Both these scenes are in slow motion and both women turning around to their right side with their right arm missing.

Xian si jue (1983)

The Professional: Golgo 13 (1983)

- The sniper scene with O-Ren in the anime sequence is an homage to this anime

Scarface (1983)

- the way johnny mo falls into the swimming pool at the end and the way the bride screams to the survivors

Gai shi ji hua (1984)

Year of the Dragon (1985)

- Cimino's chaotic influence is all over the Showdown at the Blue Leaves. Totally reminiscent of the Chinese restaraunt shoot-out from Year of the Dragon, one of Tarantino's favorite films.

Highlander (1986)

- Silhouetted sword fight against blue windows

Wong ga jin si (1986)

Ying hung boon sik (1986)

- The Crazy 88s room in the House of Blue Leaves and The Bride coming there to get revenge.

Ying hung boon sik II (1987)

- The Crazy 88 wear the black-and-white suits taken from this film.

Hotaru no haka (1988)

- in the anime section the shot of the girl with her back to the camera and an explosion going off

Dip huet seung hung (1989)

- Was one of three films shown to Uma Thurman to prepare her for her role as The Bride.

The Punisher (1989)

- Lady Tanaka and the Yakuzas, and the Showdown with the changing Light Effect were almost exactly duplicated in Kill Bill.

Hard to Kill (1990)

- martial artist left for dead comes out of long coma to take revenge

Huang jia shi jie zhi: Zhong jian ren (1990)

Miller's Crossing (1990)

- Scene where a character under a bed shoots a person in the foot, they fall, and they are shot in the head.

3-4 x jûgatsu (1990)

- Gun hidden in cereals/Gun hidden in flowers

Unforgiven (1992)

- Uma Thurman impersonates Clint Eastwood in this movie, while explaining to a little girl why she killed her mother. i.e. "She had it coming"

Jûbei ninpûchô (1993)

- Both Ninja Scroll and Kill Bill pay tribute to the "Akira Kurosawa Splatter Samurai" genre of Anime. Jubei, like The Bride, charges head on into a veritable army of sword weilding henchmen and carve them down with his sword in a cloud broken bodies and torrentuously spraying blood.

True Romance (1993)

- The Bride wear's Clarence's gold Elvis glasses.

Fong Sai Yuk juk jaap (1993)

- Fong Sai Yuk 2 has a sword fight with many people at the end. Kill Bill has a sword fight with many people. One person against many and with swords

Tai ji: Zhang San Feng (1993)

Pulp Fiction (1994)

"The Simpsons: Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala-Annoyed-Grunt-cious (#8.13)" (1997)

- The scene in which Vernita Green pulls a weapon out of a cereal box references the joke made by an animated Tarantino in this episode.

Gokudô kuroshakai (1997)

- An assassin's last words to the son of Yuji are nearly identical to the Bride's parting monologue to the daughter of Vernita.

Full Tilt Boogie (1997)

- The origin of Elle Driver's name, because FTB (the making-of From Dusk Till Dawn) was an "L. Driver Production''.

Jackie Brown (1997)

- The same animated plane flight map seen in 'Jackie Brown' is used in 'Kill Bill'.

"Weißkreuz" (1998)

- The references to assassin teams and the numbers they come in.

Kite (1998)

- animated O-Ren Ishii's murdered parents and school girl assassin shooting sequence also occur in Kite

SF: Episode One (1998)

- The sequence where the Bride fights behind the blue-screen and we can see her silhouette, is a reference to the opening of 'Samurai Fiction'.

From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money (1999) (V)

- James Parks plays the same character in each movie

Proboscis (2000)

- The mosquito whose blood-sucking wakes the comatic Bride is a reference to this film's monster.

Wo hu cang long (2000)

Shin jingi naki tatakai (2000)

- The theme of this film is heard in Kill Bill Vol. 1 when O-Ren, Go Go, Sophie, and the Crazy 88's walking down the corridor into the House of Blues Leaves

Batoru rowaiaru (2000)

- Gogo Yubari's mini-sword is a tribute to Takako Chigusa's jackknife; Chiaki Kuriyama wears the same schoolgirl outfit in both films; The scene where Go-Go stabs a man in the crotch and asks him if he still wants to "penetrate her" is a homage to Chiaki Kuriyama's infamous scene in 'Battle Royale';

Signs (2002)

- Identical shot of Graham/Bride looking at reflection in knife

Lost in Translation (2003)

- the japanese wo says that he looks like charlie brown

Kill Bill 2

Annie Oakley (1894)

- The Bride tells Karen Kim "I'm better than Annie Oakley and I've got you right in my sights."

Queen Christina (1933)

- The camera tracking in slowly into the final black-and-white closeup of Uma Thurman as she's driving is clearly a reference to the famous final close-up of Garbo at the ship -- Tarantino has often compared the two actresses

His Girl Friday (1940)

- Bill says to the Bride about Tommy her to be husband, "Mind if I meet this fella, I'm a little particular about who my gal marries." Which is just a little too similar to Cary Grant in His Girl Friday saying, "Mind if I meet this guy, I'm a little particular about who my wife marries." His Girl Friday is also one of Tarantino's top ten favorite movies.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1941)

- The Bride's real name, 'Beatrix' is partially inspired by Lana Turner's character name in this film, "Beatrix Emery". Lana Turner is also mentioned by Esteban during his conversation with The Bride.

Casablanca (1942)

- Character parody of "Sam."

The Talking Magpies (1946)

- Is the cartoon The Bride and B.B. are watching at the end of the film.

The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)

- Esteban mentions this as the movie that made Bill "a fool for blondes".

The Golden Stallion (1949)

- Is the film on T.V. when The Bride first confronts Bill.

"The $64,000 Question" (1955)

- Bill mentions this show's title during his last conversation with The Bride.

The Searchers (1956)

- Uma is framed at the door of the chapel like John Wayne, and Bo Svenson

"Quick Draw McGraw" (1959)

- Bill calls Beatrix "Quick Draw Kiddo"; Sound effect of guitar hitting a body during fight between Elle & The Bride.

Topkapi (1964)

- Arthur Plympton, the name of The Bride's fiance, is taken directly from Arthur Simpson's pseudonym in 'Topkapi'.

Per un pugno di dollari (1964)

- Score from 'A Fistful of Dollars' is heard after Budd has shot The Bride.

Furankenshutain no kaijû: Sanda tai Gaira (1966)

- In the DVD of the making of KILL BILL II, Quentin Tarantino states that the fight between Uma Thurman and Daryl Hannah, was inspired by the Japanese horror / sci-fi film WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS. He called his fight "War of the Blond Gargantuas". Hannah's character, in fact states the word "gargantuan" several times as a hint, before her fight with Thurman's Bride.

Navajo Joe (1966)

- The main theme is heard during Bill's death scene.

Buono, il brutto, il cattivo., Il (1966)

- Use of the "Sergio Leone" closeup. Also, "Il Tramanto" from this film's score is heard when The Bride sees Bill in the opening flashback.

Scandale, Le (1967)

- The overhead shots of The Bride in her hotel bathroom.

Se sei vivo spara (1967)

- the shot of the hand rising from the ground

"Ironside" (1967)

- The same excerpt of 'Ironside''s theme song heard in 'Vol. 1' is heard when The Bride first sees Elle Driver.

The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz (1968)

- The origin of Chapter 8's title.

The Savage Seven (1968)

- Larry mentions Budd being as useless as an "####### right here", referring to his elbow. Larry Bishop says the same line in 'The Savage Seven'.

Mercenario, Il (1968)

- Score song "L'Arena" is heard during the scenes where The Bride is both being nailed into, and then later escaping from her coffin.

Night of the Living Dead (1968)

- The Bride's hand reaches out from inside the grave.

C'era una volta il West (1968)

- On her way to Budd's trailer (after escaping the coffin), The Bride is walking through a sun-bathed desert out of focus, then slowly comes into focus, just like Henry Fonda in C'era una volta il West (1968). Also, they way you frst see Bill is similar to the way you first see Charles Bronson in C'era una volta il West.

Zabriskie Point (1970)

- Scene immediately before the Bride confronts Budd (Death Valley sequence) and music refer to Death Valley scene in Zabriskie Point

Road to Salina (1970)

- Score song "The Chase" is taken from this film, and used during a similar scene; someone speeding through the desert; "Sunny Road to Salina" is heard when The Bride has made her way to Budd's trailer after being buried alive; Esteban tells The Bride that Bill's villa is on "the road to Salina".

Vamos a matar, compañeros (1970)

- The opening scene in the church is exactly like the "marriage" scene between Vasco and Lola

Strano vizio della Signora Wardh, Lo (1971)

- Music from "The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh" was used in the scene when Bill confronts Budd.

THX 1138 (1971)

- As Bill leaves The Bride with Pai Mei, the license plate on his Jeep reads "THX 1169", referencing this film's title.

Billy Jack (1971)

- Text mentioning 'Walking Tall' and 'Billy Jack' is visible on the 'Mr. Majestyk' poster in Budd's trailer.

Verano para matar, Un (1972)

- Score song "Summertime Killer" is taken from this film, heard when The Bride first enters Bill's hacienda.

Fritz the Cat (1972)

- When Elle Driver is racing through the desert to meet up with Budd, Quentin Tarantino uses the same set-ups and angles from a scene in "Fritz the Cat" in which Blue the biker rides through the desert on his motorcycle.

Bury Me an Angel (1972)

- The Bride's quote "I went on what the movie advertisements refer to as roaring rampage of revenge" is a reference to this film's tagline which was "she's a howling hellcat humping a hot steel hog on a roaring rampage of revenge''.

Chato's Land (1972)

- The scene in which Budd is bitten by a snake is mirrored by a scene in Chato's Land, another revenge film

Tian xia di yi quan (1972)

- The "five point palm of death" manuever is a reference to this film, and Pai Mei's character is a reference to the actor of this movie, who played said character in other films

Walking Tall (1973)

- Text mentioning 'Walking Tall' and 'Billy Jack' is visible on the 'Mr. Majestyk' poster in Budd's trailer.

High Plains Drifter (1973)

- The Bride walking through the desert is an homage to the opening title sequence of this film.

Coffy (1973)

- Several lines of dialogue

Tough Guys (1974)

- The main theme from 'Tough Guys' is heard when The Bride attempts to show Pai Mei her kung fu.

Mr. Majestyk (1974)

- Character Budd (Michael Madsen) has a poster from this movie hanging in his trailer. It's visible in several scenes.

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)

- Referenced in the opening monologue, refering to the similair massacre in this film.

Uomini si nasce poliziotti si muore (1976)

- Kill Bill copied the eye scene

Carrie (1976)

- the Bride's hand coming up from the grave like the "Carrie" finale

Hong Xi Guan (1977)

- Lieh Lo's portrayal of Pai Mei in this film inspired the version of Pai Mei seen in 'Vol. 2'. In the original script, it even reads "Especially films that feature Lieh Lo as the old, white-haired, white-eyebrowed villian "Pai Mei."

Annie Hall (1977)

- The flashback of Beatrix (Uma aka The Bride) in school during attendance is an obvious reference to the scene with Woody Allen talking about his childhood and in his class everyone is a kid except him, whose an adult.

Rolling Thunder (1977)

- The Acuna Boys take their name from the gang of villains in 'Rolling Thunder'.

Shao Lin san shi liu fang (1978)

- Kung Fu training scenes are a direct reference, enhanced by the fact that Gordon Liu stars in both movies. Even the faded colours in this scene match that of the shaolin movie.

The Driver (1978)

- Beatrix is described as "the cowgirl who could not be caught" just as Ryan O'Neal was "the cowboy who could not be caught"

Circle of Iron (1978)

- The flute David Carradine (Bill) is seen playing in 'Vol. 2' is the same one David Carradine plays in 'Circle of Iron'.

Superman (1978)

- Bill's "Superman" speech

Shao Lin ying xiong bang (1979)

- Lieh Lo's portrayal of Pai Mei in this film inspired the version of Pai Mei seen in 'Vol. 2'. In the original script, it even reads "Especially films that feature Lieh Lo as the old, white-haired, white-eyebrowed villian "Pai Mei."

Zombi 2 (1979)

- The eye squishing scene was largely influenced by Fulci's movie. The eye-splinter scene in particularly.

Hong Wending san po bai lian jiao (1980)

- In 'Vol. 2', Gordon Liu plays Pai Mei. In this film, Gordon Liu plays a hero who battles Pai Mei.

Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

- The Bride's training by Pai Mei is a reference to Luke Skywalker/Yoda

Paura nella città dei morti viventi (1980)

- The Bride Buried Alive

Shogun Assassin (1980)

- Is the movie B.B. and The Bride watch before she confronts Bill.

E tu vivrai nel terrore - L'aldilà (1981)

- The Elle's eye scene

Blade Runner (1982)

- Darryl Hannah's twitching on Budd's bathroom floor is a definite reference to her death as Pris in Ridley Scott's film.

Gotcha! (1985)

- Bill (David Carradine) shoots Beatrix (Uma Thurman) in the leg with a gun that shoots an arrow and says "Gotcha!". The same line and a gun with arrows is being used several times in the movie Gotcha! (1985).

Red Sonja (1985)

- "You don't have a future" spoken by sword-wielding woman Brigitte Nilssen is referenced by the "#####...you don't have a future" line in Kill Bill vol. 2; spoken by sword-wielding woman Uma Thurman.

Raising Arizona (1987)

- close-quarters fight in a run-down trailer

The Princess Bride (1987)

- Two cuts to Elle Driver's face, on the left and right cheeks.

The Serpent and the Rainbow (1988)

- buried alive, with camera shot of interior and burial sounds

Spoorloos (1988)

- the grave scene

Lik Wong (1991)

- The sequence durning the fight between Elle Driver and The Bride where Elle attempts to kick The Bride in the head is mirrored in Riki-Oh, down to the camera angles and the use of slow motion.

Wong Fei Hung (1991)

- Bill begins his tale with "Once Upon a Time in China"

Reservoir Dogs (1992)

- Straight Blade, Knee-cap pain comment

Ging chaat goo si 3: Chiu kap ging chaat (1992)

- Uma Thurman's character The Bride says "I would jump on a speeding train with a motorcycle for you", which is clearly a reference to Michelle Yeoh's stunt in Police Story III where she does just this.

Army of Darkness (1992)

- The moment the bride comes out of her grave. It is the same shot when Evil Ash emerges from his grave.

Wing Chun (1994)

- In the fight with Pai Mei, the Bride gets her foot stuck in his belly, a reference to Wo Ping's earlier work Wing Chun and the actress Michelle Yeoh.

Pulp Fiction (1994)

- Bare feet

Natural Born Killers (1994)

- Bill refers to the Bride as a "natural born killer"

Mortal Kombat (1995)

- Bill makes reference to the White Lotus a group of warriors that was created by Raiden

Jackie Brown (1997)

- Line: "Now listen carefully 'cause this concerns you."

The Matrix (1999)

- The way Biatrix gets up when she fights Pai Mei. The way she throws Elle on the bathroom wall when they fight. Also, The Bride's hotel room number is 101, just like neo's.

Strip Notes (2001) (V)

- When Larry is cutting shifts from Budd's roster, he's quoting the strip club manager from the documentary 'Strip Notes', also directed by Daryl Hannah.

The Rules of Attraction (2002)

- the line early in the film about an 'a**hole' on an elbow

Some of these are a real stretch, but do you honestly want to still call this original material?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Example: Kill Bill 1 & 2 References from IMDB:

Kill Bill 1

The House Without a Key (1926)

- "Son Number One" quotes

The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog (1927)

- The scene where The Bride picks up her sword from the floor is a reference to this film.

Citizen Kane (1941)

- A shot of The Bride lying in a coma, silhouetted against her hospital window replicates a shot from early in Citizen Kane.

Scaramouche (1952)

- The Bride versus Johnny Mo on the railing fighting

"Alfred Hitchcock Presents: Breakdown (#1.7)" (1955)

- The shot of The Bride's toes during the "Wiggle your big toe" scene replicates a shot of William Callew's feet in this episode.

The Wings of Eagles (1957)

- The Bride talking to her toes.

Tirez sur le pianiste (1960)

- Identical shot of a finger ringing a doorbell.

The Magnificent Seven (1960)

- The knife-gun exchange mirrors the introduction of Coburn's character

Yojimbo (1961)

- Arterial spurts, plus the last of the Crazy 88 is spared and told to go home to mother just as in "Yojimbo."

The Manchurian Candidate (1962)

- The introduction to the fight between Thurman and fox parallels the fight between Sinatra and Silva

Marnie (1964)

- The shots of Daryl Hannah walking down the hospital corridor with a big purse are right out of the beginning of "Marnie" with Tippi Hedren.

Per un pugno di dollari (1964)

- Was one of three films shown to Uma Thurman to prepare her for her role as The Bride.

"Honey West" (1965)

- The look of Honey West influenced the look of the DIVAS.

Da zui xia (1966)

Tôkyô nagaremono (1966)

- Yakuzas; fight scene between The Bride and the Crazy 88s similar to Tetsu fighting yakuzas; mad go-go music; monochrome and fight on color background in both films

Modesty Blaise (1966)

- The look of Modesty Blaise influenced the look of the DIVAS.

"Star Trek" (1966)

- The Bride says that Sofie Fatale is dressed like a villain from 'Star Trek'.

"The Green Hornet" (1966)

- Al Hirt's theme music for 'The Green Hornet' is heard when The Bride rides her motorcycle through Tokyo. The Kato masks worn by The Crazy 88 are also taken from the one worn by Bruce Lee on this show.

Navajo Joe (1966)

- The axe to the head that one of the Crazy 88's gets during the fight between the Bride and the Crazy 88's is a reference to the end of Navajo Joe when Duncan gets an axe to the head.

Made in U.S.A. (1966)

- The bleeping out of The Bride's true name.

Da uomo a uomo (1967)

- The film's theme heard when The Bride calls out O-Ren in The House of Blue Leaves; The extreme closeup of the eyes followed by a bright orange/yellow flashback of the massacre.

Lunghi giorni della vendetta, I (1967)

- The music heard in the anime sequence when O-Ren's father is stabbed and the camera pans up to show the sword and the killer is music from the spaghetti western.

Scandale, Le (1967)

- The overhead shots of The Bride in Vernita Green's house.

"Ironside" (1967)

- A score excerpt from 'Ironside''s theme music is used when The Bride sees one of her attackers.

Giorni dell'ira, I (1967)

- Music from ''Day of Anger'' is heard during the fight between The Bride and the Crazy 88's when the screen changes from color to black and white.

Kyuketsuki Gokemidoro (1968)

- the orange sunset sky behind the airplane, Tarantino took the look from the opening scenes from this film.

Mariée était en noir, La (1968)

- Same plot.

Mercenario, Il (1968)

- The design for the list of targets seen in the movie is taken directly from the list shown in 'A Professional Gun'; I.E. there are five things on the list, the fifth item is fully capitalized and underlined twice, etc.

Twisted Nerve (1968)

- The theme of 'Twisted Nerve' is whistled during the hospital scene as a direct reference.

C'era una volta il West (1968)

- Revenge film where Charles Bronson kills the man who killed his brother (Charles Bronson receiving a special thanks credit in "Kill Bill" post-mortem.

The Wild Bunch (1969)

Xiao quan wang (1971)

A Clockwork Orange (1971)

- The men and women walking down the hallway wearing masks and carrying their holstered swords like Alex and his droogs.

Hannie Caulder (1971)

- As explained by Tarantino in an interview

Jing wu men (1972)

- The Crazy 88 fight on the floor where she attacks all their feet is based on Bruce's first fight with the school, he hits all their feet with nunchaku and they fall writhing in pain, just like in Kill Bill vol.1

Tian xia di yi quan (1972)

- The sound effect when the hero applies the deadly iron fist move is the same sound we hear when Uma Thurman's The Bride sees Vivica Fox and Lucy Liu.

Kozure Ôkami: Shinikazeni mukau ubaguruma (1972)

- One vs. an army of swordfighters; The tongue being bitten out in the attempted rapeis exactly the same as in 'Lone Wolf and Cub: Babycart to Hades'.

Joshuu 701-gô: Sasori (1972)

- uses the same music in both films "urami-bushi" and in vol 2 the bride rips out her attempted rapist's tongue just like in Joshuu 701-gô: Sasor

The Last House on the Left (1972)

Novia ensangrentada, La (1972)

Grande duello, Il (1972)

- The theme of this film is heard in 'Vol. 1', 'M10' when The Bride lay in the ##### Wagon trying to wiggle her big toe, and 'Parte Prima' during the animated sequence.

Shurayukihime (1973)

- Many connections, including; both being female revenge films; the duel in the snow covered garden; the division into chapters; the camera angle looking up at the heroine's attackers looking down at her; the animated sequence; the song "Flower of Carnage", sung by Meiko Kaji who is the star of 'Lady Snowblood', is heard in 'Vol. 1'.

Black Mama, White Mama (1973)

- The Bride being choked by Gogo's chain is mirrored in 'Black Mama' by the scene where Lee and Karen strangle the warden with their shared chain; Score heard during the Crazy 88 bloodbath is taken from this film.

Furyô anego den: Inoshika Ochô (1973)

- The fight in the snow is a reference to the battles early in Sex and Fury.

Coffy (1973)

- The scene in which Vernita and The Bride stand deadlocked in a blade fight mirrors the scene between Harriet & Coffy. Vernita also uses Harriet's line from this scene; "Come on, #####!"; 'Coffy' was also one of three films shown to Uma Thurman to prepare her for her role as The Bride.

White Lightning (1973)

- Kill Bill uses the theme from "White Lightning" when The Bride fights the Crazy 88 at the House of Blue Leaves

The Doll Squad (1973)

- The look of The Doll Squad influenced the look of the DIVAS.

Shura-yuki-hime: Urami Renga (1974)

- Influenced by

Yamaguchi-gumi gaiden: Kyushu shinko-sakusen (1974)

- The tattoo designs that cover Boss Matsumoto's back and arms are taken directly from the tattoos Yozakura wears in 'The Tattooed Hitman'.

Tough Guys (1974)

- The theme from Three Tough Guys is heard in Kill Bill Vol. 1. during the anime sequence when O-Ren is on the top of the building.

Truck Turner (1974)

- The main theme of 'Truck Turner' is used in the scene where The Bride is trying to find the ##### Wagon in her wheelchair.

Thriller - en grym film (1974)

- Elle Driver from Kill Bill and Madeleine share numerous physical traits (eye patch, long coat, pant suit). Also, several of the fight scenes in Kill Bill mimic this film, with slow motion and eerie sound effects.

Crash che botte! (1974)

- Go Go's Ball and Chain hand weapon.

Gone in 60 Seconds (1974)

- Row of sunglasses on dashboard of sherrif's car - same gag in opening scene.

Onna hissatsu ken (1974)

The Yakuza (1974)

- When The Bride's sword gets stuck in one of the Crazy 88s, the scene closely mirrors a scene in The Yakuza where the same thing happens to Ken Takakura's charcter. The overhead shot in this scene is also the same.

Du bi quan wang da po xue di zi (1975)

- Uses villain's theme from this film and character in "Kill Bill" uses a variation on the Flying Guillotine device. Uma Thurman's approach to Lucy Liu's character up the stairs includes her hiding on the ceiling in the same manner as the villain on the final approach of this film.

Kenka karate kyokushinken (1975)

- The theme music of 'Champion of Death' is used in the "House of Blue Leaves" finale.

Profondo rosso (1975)

Black Sunday (1977)

- As explained by Tarantino n an interview

Eaten Alive (1977)

- In "Kill Bill: Vol. 1," the hospital attendant 'Buck' delivers the line: "My name's Buck. I'm ready to ####." This quote was originally spoken by Robert Englund in "Eaten Alive."

Sette note in nero (1977)

- The score heard as The Bride is about to attack and kill Buck is taken from 'Murder to the Tune of the Seven Black Notes'.

Yagyû ichizoku no inbô (1978)

Game of Death (1978)

- Uma Thurman's yellow track-suit is a direct homage to the one worn by Bruce Lee in Game of Death (1978).

Grease (1978)

- The ##### Wagon takes it's name from the 'Greased Lightning' lyric, "She's a real ##### Wagon".

Wu du (1978)

- 'The Five Deadly Venoms' inspired 'The Deadly Viper Assassination Squad'; sounds effects used in 'Vol. 1' (Sword Swings, Axe Throws) are taken from this film.

Death Force (1978)

- (dialogue)

Se ying diu sau (1978)

- The scene where The Bride slices her enemy's weapon to pieces is taken directly from 'Snake in the Eagle's Shadow'.

Patrick (1978)

- The scene where the comatose bride spits.

Day of the Woman (1978)

"Yagyû ichizoku no inbô" (1979)

- The theme for "Yagyuu Conspiracy" is heard as background music for the "second reason" speech.

Hao xia (1979)

"Hattori Hanzô: Kage no Gundan" (1980)

- Stars Sonny Chiba as Hattori Hanzo. In Kill Bill, Chiba's Hanzo is a distant relative of the original Hattori Hanzo. Much inspiration for Kill Bill came from Season 4, including Lucy Liu's character O-Ren Ishii being named after Sue Shihomi's character O-Ren in Season 4.

Friday the 13th (1980)

- Slow mo & music cue before Mrs. Voorhees' decapitation matches cues before Buck's achilles heel slicing

Apocalypse domani (1980)

- Tongue tearing from mouth to mouth scene

Paura nella città dei morti viventi (1980)

- The scene where blood runs out of Gogo Yubari's eyes.

Resurrection (1980)

- The "wiggle your big toe" sequence in Kill Bill pt. 1 is basically the same. Ellen Burstyn's character is paralyzed from the waist down as a result of an injury, whilst sitting in her wheelchair, she tells herself constantly "wiggle your big toe"...

Shogun Assassin (1980)

- When The Bride cleans the blood off her sword by swinging it, and also when she uses her fist to hit and stop the vibrating of her sword in a victim are moves both from 'Shogun Assassin'.

Si wang ta (1981)

Escape from New York (1981)

- Daryl Hannah plays Califorinia Mountian Snake, she sports an eye patch and a smoking habit as well as attitude, a referance to Snake Plissken

Dead & Buried (1981)

- The shot of Elle Driver leaning in close to The Bride's comatose body in the hospital, disguised as a nurse replicates a shot from this film.

Makai tenshô (1981)

- Line: "If you encounter God, God will be cut."

Venom (1981)

- Black Mamba Codename

Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

- the "old klingon proverb" at the start of the film was originally quoted by Khan in ST II

Tenebre (1982)

- The shot where The Bride chops off Sophie's arm is similar to the scene in Tenebrae where Jane (Veronica Lario) turns around with her arm chopped. Both these scenes are in slow motion and both women turning around to their right side with their right arm missing.

Xian si jue (1983)

The Professional: Golgo 13 (1983)

- The sniper scene with O-Ren in the anime sequence is an homage to this anime

Scarface (1983)

- the way johnny mo falls into the swimming pool at the end and the way the bride screams to the survivors

Gai shi ji hua (1984)

Year of the Dragon (1985)

- Cimino's chaotic influence is all over the Showdown at the Blue Leaves. Totally reminiscent of the Chinese restaraunt shoot-out from Year of the Dragon, one of Tarantino's favorite films.

Highlander (1986)

- Silhouetted sword fight against blue windows

Wong ga jin si (1986)

Ying hung boon sik (1986)

- The Crazy 88s room in the House of Blue Leaves and The Bride coming there to get revenge.

Ying hung boon sik II (1987)

- The Crazy 88 wear the black-and-white suits taken from this film.

Hotaru no haka (1988)

- in the anime section the shot of the girl with her back to the camera and an explosion going off

Dip huet seung hung (1989)

- Was one of three films shown to Uma Thurman to prepare her for her role as The Bride.

The Punisher (1989)

- Lady Tanaka and the Yakuzas, and the Showdown with the changing Light Effect were almost exactly duplicated in Kill Bill.

Hard to Kill (1990)

- martial artist left for dead comes out of long coma to take revenge

Huang jia shi jie zhi: Zhong jian ren (1990)

Miller's Crossing (1990)

- Scene where a character under a bed shoots a person in the foot, they fall, and they are shot in the head.

3-4 x jûgatsu (1990)

- Gun hidden in cereals/Gun hidden in flowers

Unforgiven (1992)

- Uma Thurman impersonates Clint Eastwood in this movie, while explaining to a little girl why she killed her mother. i.e. "She had it coming"

Jûbei ninpûchô (1993)

- Both Ninja Scroll and Kill Bill pay tribute to the "Akira Kurosawa Splatter Samurai" genre of Anime. Jubei, like The Bride, charges head on into a veritable army of sword weilding henchmen and carve them down with his sword in a cloud broken bodies and torrentuously spraying blood.

True Romance (1993)

- The Bride wear's Clarence's gold Elvis glasses.

Fong Sai Yuk juk jaap (1993)

- Fong Sai Yuk 2 has a sword fight with many people at the end. Kill Bill has a sword fight with many people. One person against many and with swords

Tai ji: Zhang San Feng (1993)

Pulp Fiction (1994)

"The Simpsons: Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala-Annoyed-Grunt-cious (#8.13)" (1997)

- The scene in which Vernita Green pulls a weapon out of a cereal box references the joke made by an animated Tarantino in this episode.

Gokudô kuroshakai (1997)

- An assassin's last words to the son of Yuji are nearly identical to the Bride's parting monologue to the daughter of Vernita.

Full Tilt Boogie (1997)

- The origin of Elle Driver's name, because FTB (the making-of From Dusk Till Dawn) was an "L. Driver Production''.

Jackie Brown (1997)

- The same animated plane flight map seen in 'Jackie Brown' is used in 'Kill Bill'.

"Weißkreuz" (1998)

- The references to assassin teams and the numbers they come in.

Kite (1998)

- animated O-Ren Ishii's murdered parents and school girl assassin shooting sequence also occur in Kite

SF: Episode One (1998)

- The sequence where the Bride fights behind the blue-screen and we can see her silhouette, is a reference to the opening of 'Samurai Fiction'.

From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money (1999) (V)

- James Parks plays the same character in each movie

Proboscis (2000)

- The mosquito whose blood-sucking wakes the comatic Bride is a reference to this film's monster.

Wo hu cang long (2000)

Shin jingi naki tatakai (2000)

- The theme of this film is heard in Kill Bill Vol. 1 when O-Ren, Go Go, Sophie, and the Crazy 88's walking down the corridor into the House of Blues Leaves

Batoru rowaiaru (2000)

- Gogo Yubari's mini-sword is a tribute to Takako Chigusa's jackknife; Chiaki Kuriyama wears the same schoolgirl outfit in both films; The scene where Go-Go stabs a man in the crotch and asks him if he still wants to "penetrate her" is a homage to Chiaki Kuriyama's infamous scene in 'Battle Royale';

Signs (2002)

- Identical shot of Graham/Bride looking at reflection in knife

Lost in Translation (2003)

- the japanese wo says that he looks like charlie brown

Kill Bill 2

Annie Oakley (1894)

- The Bride tells Karen Kim "I'm better than Annie Oakley and I've got you right in my sights."

Queen Christina (1933)

- The camera tracking in slowly into the final black-and-white closeup of Uma Thurman as she's driving is clearly a reference to the famous final close-up of Garbo at the ship -- Tarantino has often compared the two actresses

His Girl Friday (1940)

- Bill says to the Bride about Tommy her to be husband, "Mind if I meet this fella, I'm a little particular about who my gal marries." Which is just a little too similar to Cary Grant in His Girl Friday saying, "Mind if I meet this guy, I'm a little particular about who my wife marries." His Girl Friday is also one of Tarantino's top ten favorite movies.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1941)

- The Bride's real name, 'Beatrix' is partially inspired by Lana Turner's character name in this film, "Beatrix Emery". Lana Turner is also mentioned by Esteban during his conversation with The Bride.

Casablanca (1942)

- Character parody of "Sam."

The Talking Magpies (1946)

- Is the cartoon The Bride and B.B. are watching at the end of the film.

The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)

- Esteban mentions this as the movie that made Bill "a fool for blondes".

The Golden Stallion (1949)

- Is the film on T.V. when The Bride first confronts Bill.

"The $64,000 Question" (1955)

- Bill mentions this show's title during his last conversation with The Bride.

The Searchers (1956)

- Uma is framed at the door of the chapel like John Wayne, and Bo Svenson

"Quick Draw McGraw" (1959)

- Bill calls Beatrix "Quick Draw Kiddo"; Sound effect of guitar hitting a body during fight between Elle & The Bride.

Topkapi (1964)

- Arthur Plympton, the name of The Bride's fiance, is taken directly from Arthur Simpson's pseudonym in 'Topkapi'.

Per un pugno di dollari (1964)

- Score from 'A Fistful of Dollars' is heard after Budd has shot The Bride.

Furankenshutain no kaijû: Sanda tai Gaira (1966)

- In the DVD of the making of KILL BILL II, Quentin Tarantino states that the fight between Uma Thurman and Daryl Hannah, was inspired by the Japanese horror / sci-fi film WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS. He called his fight "War of the Blond Gargantuas". Hannah's character, in fact states the word "gargantuan" several times as a hint, before her fight with Thurman's Bride.

Navajo Joe (1966)

- The main theme is heard during Bill's death scene.

Buono, il brutto, il cattivo., Il (1966)

- Use of the "Sergio Leone" closeup. Also, "Il Tramanto" from this film's score is heard when The Bride sees Bill in the opening flashback.

Scandale, Le (1967)

- The overhead shots of The Bride in her hotel bathroom.

Se sei vivo spara (1967)

- the shot of the hand rising from the ground

"Ironside" (1967)

- The same excerpt of 'Ironside''s theme song heard in 'Vol. 1' is heard when The Bride first sees Elle Driver.

The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz (1968)

- The origin of Chapter 8's title.

The Savage Seven (1968)

- Larry mentions Budd being as useless as an "####### right here", referring to his elbow. Larry Bishop says the same line in 'The Savage Seven'.

Mercenario, Il (1968)

- Score song "L'Arena" is heard during the scenes where The Bride is both being nailed into, and then later escaping from her coffin.

Night of the Living Dead (1968)

- The Bride's hand reaches out from inside the grave.

C'era una volta il West (1968)

- On her way to Budd's trailer (after escaping the coffin), The Bride is walking through a sun-bathed desert out of focus, then slowly comes into focus, just like Henry Fonda in C'era una volta il West (1968). Also, they way you frst see Bill is similar to the way you first see Charles Bronson in C'era una volta il West.

Zabriskie Point (1970)

- Scene immediately before the Bride confronts Budd (Death Valley sequence) and music refer to Death Valley scene in Zabriskie Point

Road to Salina (1970)

- Score song "The Chase" is taken from this film, and used during a similar scene; someone speeding through the desert; "Sunny Road to Salina" is heard when The Bride has made her way to Budd's trailer after being buried alive; Esteban tells The Bride that Bill's villa is on "the road to Salina".

Vamos a matar, compañeros (1970)

- The opening scene in the church is exactly like the "marriage" scene between Vasco and Lola

Strano vizio della Signora Wardh, Lo (1971)

- Music from "The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh" was used in the scene when Bill confronts Budd.

THX 1138 (1971)

- As Bill leaves The Bride with Pai Mei, the license plate on his Jeep reads "THX 1169", referencing this film's title.

Billy Jack (1971)

- Text mentioning 'Walking Tall' and 'Billy Jack' is visible on the 'Mr. Majestyk' poster in Budd's trailer.

Verano para matar, Un (1972)

- Score song "Summertime Killer" is taken from this film, heard when The Bride first enters Bill's hacienda.

Fritz the Cat (1972)

- When Elle Driver is racing through the desert to meet up with Budd, Quentin Tarantino uses the same set-ups and angles from a scene in "Fritz the Cat" in which Blue the biker rides through the desert on his motorcycle.

Bury Me an Angel (1972)

- The Bride's quote "I went on what the movie advertisements refer to as roaring rampage of revenge" is a reference to this film's tagline which was "she's a howling hellcat humping a hot steel hog on a roaring rampage of revenge''.

Chato's Land (1972)

- The scene in which Budd is bitten by a snake is mirrored by a scene in Chato's Land, another revenge film

Tian xia di yi quan (1972)

- The "five point palm of death" manuever is a reference to this film, and Pai Mei's character is a reference to the actor of this movie, who played said character in other films

Walking Tall (1973)

- Text mentioning 'Walking Tall' and 'Billy Jack' is visible on the 'Mr. Majestyk' poster in Budd's trailer.

High Plains Drifter (1973)

- The Bride walking through the desert is an homage to the opening title sequence of this film.

Coffy (1973)

- Several lines of dialogue

Tough Guys (1974)

- The main theme from 'Tough Guys' is heard when The Bride attempts to show Pai Mei her kung fu.

Mr. Majestyk (1974)

- Character Budd (Michael Madsen) has a poster from this movie hanging in his trailer. It's visible in several scenes.

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)

- Referenced in the opening monologue, refering to the similair massacre in this film.

Uomini si nasce poliziotti si muore (1976)

- Kill Bill copied the eye scene

Carrie (1976)

- the Bride's hand coming up from the grave like the "Carrie" finale

Hong Xi Guan (1977)

- Lieh Lo's portrayal of Pai Mei in this film inspired the version of Pai Mei seen in 'Vol. 2'. In the original script, it even reads "Especially films that feature Lieh Lo as the old, white-haired, white-eyebrowed villian "Pai Mei."

Annie Hall (1977)

- The flashback of Beatrix (Uma aka The Bride) in school during attendance is an obvious reference to the scene with Woody Allen talking about his childhood and in his class everyone is a kid except him, whose an adult.

Rolling Thunder (1977)

- The Acuna Boys take their name from the gang of villains in 'Rolling Thunder'.

Shao Lin san shi liu fang (1978)

- Kung Fu training scenes are a direct reference, enhanced by the fact that Gordon Liu stars in both movies. Even the faded colours in this scene match that of the shaolin movie.

The Driver (1978)

- Beatrix is described as "the cowgirl who could not be caught" just as Ryan O'Neal was "the cowboy who could not be caught"

Circle of Iron (1978)

- The flute David Carradine (Bill) is seen playing in 'Vol. 2' is the same one David Carradine plays in 'Circle of Iron'.

Superman (1978)

- Bill's "Superman" speech

Shao Lin ying xiong bang (1979)

- Lieh Lo's portrayal of Pai Mei in this film inspired the version of Pai Mei seen in 'Vol. 2'. In the original script, it even reads "Especially films that feature Lieh Lo as the old, white-haired, white-eyebrowed villian "Pai Mei."

Zombi 2 (1979)

- The eye squishing scene was largely influenced by Fulci's movie. The eye-splinter scene in particularly.

Hong Wending san po bai lian jiao (1980)

- In 'Vol. 2', Gordon Liu plays Pai Mei. In this film, Gordon Liu plays a hero who battles Pai Mei.

Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

- The Bride's training by Pai Mei is a reference to Luke Skywalker/Yoda

Paura nella città dei morti viventi (1980)

- The Bride Buried Alive

Shogun Assassin (1980)

- Is the movie B.B. and The Bride watch before she confronts Bill.

E tu vivrai nel terrore - L'aldilà (1981)

- The Elle's eye scene

Blade Runner (1982)

- Darryl Hannah's twitching on Budd's bathroom floor is a definite reference to her death as Pris in Ridley Scott's film.

Gotcha! (1985)

- Bill (David Carradine) shoots Beatrix (Uma Thurman) in the leg with a gun that shoots an arrow and says "Gotcha!". The same line and a gun with arrows is being used several times in the movie Gotcha! (1985).

Red Sonja (1985)

- "You don't have a future" spoken by sword-wielding woman Brigitte Nilssen is referenced by the "#####...you don't have a future" line in Kill Bill vol. 2; spoken by sword-wielding woman Uma Thurman.

Raising Arizona (1987)

- close-quarters fight in a run-down trailer

The Princess Bride (1987)

- Two cuts to Elle Driver's face, on the left and right cheeks.

The Serpent and the Rainbow (1988)

- buried alive, with camera shot of interior and burial sounds

Spoorloos (1988)

- the grave scene

Lik Wong (1991)

- The sequence durning the fight between Elle Driver and The Bride where Elle attempts to kick The Bride in the head is mirrored in Riki-Oh, down to the camera angles and the use of slow motion.

Wong Fei Hung (1991)

- Bill begins his tale with "Once Upon a Time in China"

Reservoir Dogs (1992)

- Straight Blade, Knee-cap pain comment

Ging chaat goo si 3: Chiu kap ging chaat (1992)

- Uma Thurman's character The Bride says "I would jump on a speeding train with a motorcycle for you", which is clearly a reference to Michelle Yeoh's stunt in Police Story III where she does just this.

Army of Darkness (1992)

- The moment the bride comes out of her grave. It is the same shot when Evil Ash emerges from his grave.

Wing Chun (1994)

- In the fight with Pai Mei, the Bride gets her foot stuck in his belly, a reference to Wo Ping's earlier work Wing Chun and the actress Michelle Yeoh.

Pulp Fiction (1994)

- Bare feet

Natural Born Killers (1994)

- Bill refers to the Bride as a "natural born killer"

Mortal Kombat (1995)

- Bill makes reference to the White Lotus a group of warriors that was created by Raiden

Jackie Brown (1997)

- Line: "Now listen carefully 'cause this concerns you."

The Matrix (1999)

- The way Biatrix gets up when she fights Pai Mei. The way she throws Elle on the bathroom wall when they fight. Also, The Bride's hotel room number is 101, just like neo's.

Strip Notes (2001) (V)

- When Larry is cutting shifts from Budd's roster, he's quoting the strip club manager from the documentary 'Strip Notes', also directed by Daryl Hannah.

The Rules of Attraction (2002)

- the line early in the film about an 'a**hole' on an elbow

Some of these are a real stretch, but do you honestly want to still call this original material?

Prettttttttttty sure he has fully acknowledged that it's an homage to films he loves. I must have missed the Vanilla Ice moment."There's goes dah dah dah ding ding ding ding ding. Mine goes dah dah dah ding ding dingding ding. See, that little change."

Whatever. Enjoy your Hollywood suckfests.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Excellent post. But there's a huge difference between Tarantino and Rodriguez. Rodriguez made a cool-looking movie with Sin City. But mostly, he is an absolute hack. Tarantino's Jackie Brown is a singular work and Rodriguez hasn't made even a few moments in any of his movies that compare to Brown.

 

[krista4]

Prettttttttttty sure he has fully acknowledged that it's an homage to films he loves. I must have missed the Vanilla Ice moment."There's goes dah dah dah ding ding ding ding ding. Mine goes dah dah dah ding ding dingding ding. See, that little change." Whatever. Enjoy your Hollywood suckfests.

Jeebus, GBSS, did you have to quote that whole thing?

 

[krista4]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Ahhhhhh trick question. No one makes film noir anymore Sin City is a literal homage to noir. I'd rather watch that than Brick. After Dark, My Sweet was 20 times better, but that was 1990.

I can't bring myself to watch "Sin City". Rodriguez is a hack, pure and simple. I wouldn't trust him to film a bar mitzvah. I don't understand the hate for "Brick" though. Its biggest indulgence is the world it creates and sustains. The acting might be the ***** in the armor but how much of that is the dialogue really? All this talk of late in the thread about "older" movies and how they don't hold up. Why? The characters, the scripts, et al. "Brick" is a throwback to noir films and perhaps suffers from the shortcomings of the genre. I can't bring myself to penalize a film that so fully realizes its dream. I was thoroughly entertained by it but then I'm maybe more so a sucker for the older films than other folks here.Nice call on "After Dark...", btw.

While I enjoyed Sin City, I agree that Rodriguez stinks. As for Brick, I can't blame the movie's failure on the script. If you've seen enough Mamet movies, the thread that weaves most of them together is the annoying monotone that Mamet drills into the actors. With Brick, all I can remember is every single actor behaving as if their mother just died. Just wooden.As I mentioned earlier, I like old movies. If you look at Paul Newman or Spencer Tracey, you have natural actors that seem believable in almost every starring role. However, more often than not, so many actors in classic films deliver lines that are laughably bad.

 

[jdoggydogg]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

Awesome movie! That would make a great double feature with Romeo is Bleeding.

 

[hooter311]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

I was just about to say that if anyone knows about an underappreciated noir film, it would be you Krista, I'll have to check it out sometime.

 

[jdoggydogg]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

I was just about to say that if anyone knows about an underappreciated noir film, it would be you Krista, I'll have to check it out sometime.

That's a good recommendation.Did you ever seen the Coens' first movie Blood Simple? That's really good.

 

[saintfool]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

fiorentino hasn't done better work. i also really enjoyed "red rock west". dwight yoakam practically steals the show in that film. i would also toss in "killing zoe" of that era.

 

[hooter311]

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Excellent post. But there's a huge difference between Tarantino and Rodriguez. Rodriguez made a cool-looking movie with Sin City. But mostly, he is an absolute hack. Tarantino's Jackie Brown is a singular work and Rodriguez hasn't made even a few moments in any of his movies that compare to Brown.

I can appreciate Rodriguez for the work he has done with next to nothing budgets. El Mariachi was a prime example, he made a movie for like $15,000. Similarly, Tarantino's best work was done on a $50,000 budgets. But when they got Hollywood size budgets they took it too far for me to be able to enjoy. Jackie Brown I liked because it was so low key and based on a very good Elmore Leonard novel, Taratino stuck the source material and didn't try to put too much of his "talky talky" into it, and it worked. Duvall was especially great.

 

[hooter311]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

I was just about to say that if anyone knows about an underappreciated noir film, it would be you Krista, I'll have to check it out sometime.

That's a good recommendation.Did you ever seen the Coens' first movie Blood Simple? That's really good.

Of course I've seen Blood Simple, great, great movie and one of the reasons why I can't appreciate Fargo as much as other people. My only gripe is that I've never seen it available on dvd and its been years since I've seen it on VHS.

 

[hooter311]

Example: Kill Bill 1 & 2 References from IMDB:Kill Bill 1Some of these are a real stretch, but do you honestly want to still call this original material?

Prettttttttttty sure he has fully acknowledged that it's an homage to films he loves. I must have missed the Vanilla Ice moment."There's goes dah dah dah ding ding ding ding ding. Mine goes dah dah dah ding ding dingding ding. See, that little change." Whatever. Enjoy your Hollywood suckfests.

Yeah, I've just been sitting here pimping Transporter 3 this whole thread, be sure to check it out. "homage" and stealing scenes and camera angles are two completely different things, the worst part is that he always seems to think his way is so much "cooler", I said I'm a fan of his work when he takes it down a notch and focuses on a story and not something that "looks cool".

 

[krista4]

By the way, if we're allowed to submit 1990s noir as "recent", I'm going with The Last Seduction (1994). Freakin' LOVE this movie.

I was just about to say that if anyone knows about an underappreciated noir film, it would be you Krista, I'll have to check it out sometime.

That's a good recommendation.Did you ever seen the Coens' first movie Blood Simple? That's really good.

Of course I've seen Blood Simple, great, great movie and one of the reasons why I can't appreciate Fargo as much as other people. My only gripe is that I've never seen it available on dvd and its been years since I've seen it on VHS.

Blood Simple was fantastic, as was Red Rock West as saintfool mentioned. Thanks for the compliment, hooter--I love my GB SmoovySmoov but he's wrong about your taste in movies.

 

[krista4]

OK, I had to do it. Other good to great "recent" noir not yet named, many of them very well known of course: Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Hard Eight, LA Confidential, The Usual Suspects, Mona Lisa (woefully underappreciated), Sexy Beast (might or might not be noir), A Simple Plan (might or might not be noir), The Limey (probably not noir but close enough to mention since I love this movie so much), Lantana (see "The Limey"), Bound, The Man Who Wasn't There, Devil in a Blue Dress (killer soundtrack), maybe some of the David Mamet stuff like House of Games if we can count that as noir.

Please see all of these if you have not.

 

[hooter311]

OK, I had to do it. Other good to great "recent" noir not yet named, many of them very well known of course: Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Hard Eight, LA Confidential, The Usual Suspects, Mona Lisa (woefully underappreciated), Sexy Beast (might or might not be noir), A Simple Plan (might or might not be noir), The Limey (probably not noir but close enough to mention since I love this movie so much), Lantana (see "The Limey"), Bound, The Man Who Wasn't There, Devil in a Blue Dress (killer soundtrack), maybe some of the David Mamet stuff like House of Games if we can count that as noir.

Please see all of these if you have not.

This is another great example, minus the usual sexual intrigue that is the norm with this genre. This was a great and very underappreciated film. Bound is another fantastic film that you brought up, even without the lesbian scenes between Jennifer Tilly and Gershon.And of course enough is said simply by listing LA Confidential and The Usual Suspects, if anyone hasn't seen either of these please check them out immedietely.

 

[hooter311]

As recommended by jdoggydogg:

Bound By Honor: Blood In, Blood Out

To put it simply, if you enjoyed Scarface, you would enjoy this movie about Mexican prison gangs. Be warned that it is 3 hours long and took me a couple of sittings to get through it. Lots of familiar faces in small roles (Delroy Lindo, Ving Rhames, and Billy Bob Thornton all stand out). Lots of cheese acting and pretty much everything you could stuff into a movie of this genre. There is gang banging, armored truck robberies, car chases, overdoses, prison shankings, everything...

Only complaint is if you are going to have something that long to build the characters you could attach a more complete or dramatic ending to it. As long as your not expecting Godfather, fans of the genre will enjoy.

3.5/5

I will probably have to call a few people "milkweed" today to get it out of my system. Best part of the movie was a white guy playing the Mexican lead, kind of like an Italian playing a Puerto Rican, it shouldn't work, but it does.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I can't take Sin City seriously, I liked everything with Mickey Rourke and the Clive Owen bits but the rest was meh to me. To me there is a subtle difference between "art" and "hey this would look sweet", which is why I can't handle barely any of Tarintino's or Rodriguez's work after From Dusk Till Dawn. They just try way to hard for me to appreciate in their self indulgence. The Man Who Wasn't There would be up there for me, as well as the Talented Mr. Ripley. But there has been a few hack jobs like The Black Dahlia and The Truth about Charlie remakes the last few years, then again they are remaking everything so it can be expected for a noir piece to pop up every now and then.

Was just having this discussion/argument about those two with a friend a couple months ago. He blasted me because I said something on the lines of: I have trouble watching their stuff anymore b/c it seems to me they are just putting stuff together so they can watch it at home and masterbate to just how cool they think they are. Seems like all the critical acclaim has gone to their heads (I guess mostly Tarantino- not sure how "critically acclaimed" Rodriguez is).

I disagree. I think they are both at a point in their careers where they can make exactly the movies THEY want to make, not what Hollywood wants to make. Personally, I don't think big Hollywood could have an original idea if their lives depended on it. And there's Tarantino and Rodriguez, who can make contemporary samurai movies, or throwbacks to 70's grindhouse cinema, or whatever they want. And frankly, I applaud them for it, and enjoy their movies very much. You don't see either one of them remaking Halloween, or whatever Asian horror film is the latest to come along.

I do agree with you to a point. It's cool to be at that point in your career that you can do what you want, and I do respect them for making those movies. There's a difference between respecting them for doing the Grindhouse movies and actually enjoying them. Part of it might be b/c I get tired of people swinging from their junk (mostly Tarantino here) and thinking he's a God. Too many fan boys out there, and I would argue that's he's made 2 1/2 good or great movies. There are directors out there that I think are great and have to watch any movie they put out - Tarantino's not one of them anymore. Enjoy listening to him and his love for movies, and he can write great dialog, but to me the last couple movies have just felt like he thinks he's 10x cooler than he is and it comes across on the screen to me. Also be that I have little interest in cheesy kung fu, spaghetti western, 70s grindhouse movies. On your last comment - sure it's a step up from remaking horror movies. Not sure if it qualifies as original movie making just because it hasn't been done for 30 years. Not like they creating something original, they are just doing movies that nobody's paid attention to for years and so it looks original.

 

[saintfool]

OK, I had to do it. Other good to great "recent" noir not yet named, many of them very well known of course: Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Hard Eight, LA Confidential, The Usual Suspects, Mona Lisa (woefully underappreciated), Sexy Beast (might or might not be noir), A Simple Plan (might or might not be noir), The Limey (probably not noir but close enough to mention since I love this movie so much), Lantana (see "The Limey"), Bound, The Man Who Wasn't There, Devil in a Blue Dress (killer soundtrack), maybe some of the David Mamet stuff like House of Games if we can count that as noir.

Please see all of these if you have not.

those are all standouts even if they aren't truly noir, imo. some of those other Mamets that fit the bill are "The Spanish Prisoner" and "Heist".

 

[Tremendous Upside]

One recent film that teetered on the line of noir and noir parody was Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, with Robert Downey Jr

Really enjoyed that one, as I do most stuff by RDJ

Val Kilmer with a great turn as a gay detective